This is What Will Happen When The UK Air Force's Tempest Deploys

[@the-zilla]

Well done UK brothers from the United states

[@kingbread5808]

Thank you for supporting us yanks

[@j.j.anthony1200]

I want to say thank you to our American brothers in arms, thank you for supporting us in two world wars and since. May our alliance live for evermore. ✌

[@johnbaxter3086]

@@j.j.anthony1200 not sure why you saying ty, we had to pay for the help for the next 50 years

[@j.j.anthony1200]

@@johnbaxter3086 I know we paid a fortune for all the lend lease but that was paid to the US government, while i was saying thank you to the guys who sacrificed their youth, limbs and many gave their lives. Some Americans came over to fight for Britain before their own country declared war against Germany, it also happened during WW1.

[@johnbaxter3086]

@@j.j.anthony1200ok fair enough, hot my point across though 🙃

[@muttman325]

Typhoon is vastly underrated. Tempest is already impressive.

[@harshwardhang8188]

well you have an opportunity in Ukraine but a fighter jet is as good as governments willing to wage a war!!

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Problem is the Typhoons are becoming to expensive to run because it relies on parts supplies from all over Europe. It's less sustainable long term than something "home made".

[@bits2646]

@@BlatentlyFakeName especially now with brexit, but with latest upgrades the maintence/flight hours is vastly lowered. With latest upgrades its far most capable "4 plus" or "4 plus plus" gen

[@johnhough4445]

@@BlatentlyFakeName Yup! Home-grown beats reliance on others, no matter how reliable they may seem right now. Is it a case of 'economies of scale' or needless penny-pinching (that may well be regretted later)?

[@charlesblizz2590]

Hell yeah from across the pond what up my English brothers the UK is back in the air with a Royal Bird hell yeah long live the QUEEN

[@boejiden7093]

Hopefully the US defense lobby doesnt kill this beautiful bird off.

[@jagermain4050]

I agree It should be coming in 2035 But I’ll be around 28 by then so Long time for me well for everyone

[@sdprz7893]

Aye I love yanks

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

Im glad to call them friends but long live the Queen? That's a bit too much for me.

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

@@boejiden7093 You mean the UK WOKE government?

[@footyvids7627]

I never expected the uk to revive its military industry. I seen many new navy ships being deployed and new tanks being introduced into service. Glad to see the uk halting its decline.

[@paulcollins4932]

As the second largest arms supplier in the known world I think revival is a misleading word. We supply the world but can’t afford our own armaments

[@footyvids7627]

@@paulcollins4932 well I guess that’s true.

[@tsloo1620]

UK never decline! :)

[@jaybable6540]

Now we've had Brexit, Britain is free once again...

[@AbelMcTalisker]

@@jaybable6540 .....to fight over shortages in supermarkets.

[@georgesosinsky6536]

It actually pleases me to see britain still in it

[@matthewcarruthers3141]

Video would be a lot better if what you were talking about was actually on the screen at the time. It is completely random what is showing compared to what is being said.

[@VimyScout]

Typhoon is still a beautiful aircraft.

[@yorkshirecoastadventures1657]

Makes a hell of a noise.Alot loader than a Tornado.You can identify a Typhoon without looking,just by noise alone.

[@thomaselwood12]

@@yorkshirecoastadventures1657 no where near as loud as the f-35

[@Mr.mysterious76]

@@thomaselwood12 The f-35 is the loudest fighter jet I've ever heard, deafening loud

[@straightblast569]

Love Britain and freedom from proud Muslim British man love my country britain

[@iqbalhussain9534]

Oh yeah i can't wait to see UK with this beautiful homegrown jet :)

[@cesaravegah3787]

Me too, is about time

[@dandare2586]

Don't hold your breath!

[@RogueWraith909]

@Digger Gardi Cough... F-35... cough...

[@RogueWraith909]

@Digger Gardi I could also go with F-111 which didn't get bought BECAUSE of the cost increases after ordering it... We ended up with the Tornado instead. BTW... I'm 40... so definately not a boy... lol.

[@RogueWraith909]

@Digger Gardi lol

[@curtiscarpenter9881]

The tempest is the' British plane of the future to define our military and commercial aviation, this plane will define the role of other key aircraft and the purpose they can achieve patrolling airspace and responding to threats at sea as what we need is a long range strike capability to penetrate deep behind enemy lines with specific weapons in mind.

[@rdm5190]

Ill be impressed when i see it at an airshow actually flying not computer graphics looking akin to the movie "stealth"

[@kaptnpee8572]

That will be the sexiest looking jet. Welcome back 🇬🇧

[@DavidKnowles0]

An I suspect with Reaction engine technology being use in the engine, it will be by fastest jet in the sky not just the best looking.

[@InvalidUser_]

@@DavidKnowles0 it would also be practically invisible

[@fmpApps]

@@InvalidUser_ I constantly see these invisible aircraft in videos.

[@InvalidUser_]

@@fmpApps thats modern tech for you lol

[@anthonylee8743]

As Napoleon said of Wellington " This man fights war a new way, he fights it sitting on his ass!"

[@davidbarratt7914]

The UK has committed 2billion pounds for Tempest. Track & Trace will cost 37 billion pound!

[@garethevans1657]

And.............🤦‍♂️

[@_Daio_]

David Barratt, Well, let's hope the tempest works, unlike the Track & Trace, but the 2 billion pounds for Tempest is just the first 2 billion of many.

[@lechatel]

@Pete Pester Its a massive black hole of useless expenditure and nice little fund for the croney culture, that is what it is.

[@CH-pv2rz]

@Pete Pester Its all fraud and waste and idiots like you are to naive to comprehend it.

[@davidbarratt7914]

@Pete Pester Yeah... and most of those covid testing sites are empty..... just look at the videos on KZbin. Track & Trace is nothing but a get rich quick scheme for Government chums.

[@peterjones4180]

Hmmm, i think Australia should be part of the consortium, we need a REAL air superiority fighter.

[@steveb4012]

Good idea, we can make it with VB Stubby holders for you! 😜👍

[@cesaravegah3787]

Yup, if Australia doesnt improves it's defenses soon the country will be China's biatch....is a shame that the government bought overpriced french submarines by the way, hope that they don't make a similar mistake when acquiring fightersm

[@peterjones4180]

@@cesaravegah3787 Yes , we are prohibited by federal legislation introduced by Labor back in the 1980s, from having any nuclear power or nuclear industry, that makes it impossible to have nuclear powered subs with conventional weapons. Whilst being one of the worlds biggest uranium suppliers. The really interesting thing about that is that the conservatives had government for ten years after that and never once did they repeal ANY Labor legislation. Soo we are in a situation where our sub requirements are those of a nuclear powered sub for its range and endurance , but we are FORCED to use conventional engines. The U.S offered us Virginia class leased and then built here, but the conservative government would NOT even try to repeal the legislation that would allow that. Very odd indeed.

[@peterjones4180]

@@cesaravegah3787 Actually we already made the mistake with fighters we bought the F35, which is really an A35, instead of the F22 when the U.S offered to sell it to us.

[@cesaravegah3787]

@@peterjones4180 Yes, thank you for posting, interesting, is very sad that conservatives are cowards who fail to repeal leftist laws so often, it happens on another countries too, is infuriating, hope that new technologies like the molten salt reactors which are inmune to most nuclear accidents make the government to reconsider the nuclear ban, I really really would love to see Australia protected by a fleet of Astutes or Virginias, well, it's future equivalents at least, You are stuck the next decade with the french tin cans.

[@Homoprimatesapiens]

So the Tempest will be a large drone with the capability to control small drones. And the pilots sit at the ground based controls. Wow it sounds like war will be like war games.

[@paulchallice2909]

Don't worry, the drone pilots will sit safely on the ground but they will wear flying suits and qualify for medals!

[@mrknowles1540]

Sounds like the movie stealth lol

[@BeamRider100]

The GPS and data link can be jammed, Russia already have dedicated platforms to do so. We should be making peace with Russia in my mind, they're European afterall.

[@titytitmk2738]

The Tempest will be manned. It will have UAV wingmen. It will be a very fast, very agile plane with a large payload and multirole capabilities It should be fantastic.

[@Kovinius]

@@BeamRider100 or..Europe is Asia “afterall”

[@fabriziopepe5318]

the tempest program was one of the few good things done by the Italian governments after the tornado a collaboration with Great Britain is resumed I am sure that the best sixth generation fighter on the market will be born bae system leonardo and saab will do great things together

[@chrisjordan4210]

Let's hope that when they've stuffed the thing with all that electronics, Microsoft doesn't decide to send it an upgrade just at the critical moment.

[@capnpugwash822]

hear what you are saying .. feel and share the pain

[@spitfire12able]

Looks like the fb22 from ace combat, but either way this will definitely put Britain back in the aerospace game

[@zipz8423]

It’s just Brexit propaganda. The U.K. no longer has the capability to build this aircraft autonomously. It would have to source half of its parts from the USA - just like the Typhoon.

[@jackofall2305]

200B for funding the tempest Lockheed "you cant buy us lunch for that much"

[@jackofall2305]

@MrLewisbate they are building a 6th gen jet for those numbers( for now) and lockheed martin is bleeding america dry contract after contract for 100s of billions

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

Big difference though. US did all the heavy lifting for stealth. Even funnier this might not even happen. The way the UK functions you people are fucking weird when it comes to your military.

[@emmasatherley3324]

@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 The Vulcan Nuclear Bomber entered the US undetected twice, 8 of them in the 60's. They were not detected. So be quiet Mr stupid Ignorant.

[@L8rCloud]

It will be a formidable threat to other planes as long as it doesn’t leave the showroom floor. (I’ll believe it when I see it fly - outside the computer)

[@dandare2586]

Another hangar queen, like the early bloc Typhoons, with low hours metal fatigue, are today.....

[@Helliconia54]

@@dandare2586 and Brexit will kill it

[@jaybable6540]

Look for Taranis 😎

[@georgebarnes8163]

@Martin Leneghan The Flying Bedstead was not built or designed in Belfast in the 1920s, the FB was designed and built in England and never flew until 1954, you are deluded, the F35 is an evolution of the Yak 141 aircraft that Lockheed Martin bought from the Russians in the late 1990s, The Yak 141 was flying long before the F35 was even a pipe dream, I saw it flying in the UK in 1992, it was light years ahead of the Harrier. Frank Whittle never designed a jet engine until 1937, no idea where you are getting this "1920s" nonsense from .

[@charlesthompson7663]

@@georgebarnes8163 Frank Whittle took out a patent on his design in 1930, so must have had the design idea in the 1920's. That's quite a bit earlier than when he actually built it granted, but it's not nonsense to say he designed it in the 1920's.

[@notmyname6238]

UK Italy and Sweden are gonna be one hell of a power when they have these

[@krackerman3628]

These will never fly or serve.. it's fantasy to think that the UK can make an advanced gen 5 aircraft.

[@Spartan-jg4bf]

@@krackerman3628 before you comment you should know what you are talking about as to not make yourself look foolish. Tempest is supposed to be a 6th generation aircraft not 5th..

[@Renegade-Master-88]

Agreed SAAB , BAE and Leonardo is a great combo.

[@krackerman3628]

@@Spartan-jg4bf "supposed" thats the only thing you said thats true

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

@@krackerman3628 Are you high? The UK was ahead with fighter jet tech for a long time. It's more than capable.

[@gooner72]

I cannot wait to see this, she's an absolute stunner and should be, at least, on par if not better than the new 6th Gen fighter designs that the US is developing.

[@chrisplunkett2814]

Directed energy weapons on a jet fighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that's something I'd like to see before I die,especially if the UK gets to do it first.Yes I know i it hasn't even gotten past the concept stage yet,but even the concept of it maybe happening one day is something to look forward to.

[@ravikumar-ud3mh]

It will also be available in indian indigenous 5.5 gen aircraft *AMCA* mk-2 Please excuse my english 🇮🇳❤️

[@Groza_Dallocort]

TLS or PLSL

[@fmpApps]

Pilots won't like Laser weapons as they can't see or dodge them.

[@Groza_Dallocort]

@@fmpApps uhm sometimes you dont see 20mm rounds neither or rounds overall if they dont have tracers

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Laser are actually banned (since the 80s) for use against living targets as it's covered by laws which ban weapons which cause perminent blindless.

[@patdbean]

1:15 only 48 F35B I understood the UK planned on getting 138. 48 wouldn't even really be enough to equip both carriers , once you take 6 or 8 out for training and testing.

[@TimboTbagz]

They've been saying lately that 48 are confirmed as ordered but they want at least 80 (4 full squadrons).

[@zipz8423]

Yes it was 138 the original figure was higher - 150 I think. The Conservative government have steadily chipped away at the numbers as they always do. My guess would be 90 eventually.

[@zipz8423]

@@TimboTbagz 48 is the initial part of the order.

[@patdbean]

@@zipz8423 I guess 138 would have been a direct replacment of both the GR7/9 harrier force (77 by 2010 if I remember right ) and 40 or so Sea harrier by 2006. Allowing for some attrition.

[@zipz8423]

@@patdbean I just don’t believe we will buy 138. If the MOD is serious about Tempest then probably not.

[@Zurvan101]

This project is one labour government away from being cancelled.

[@craigs71]

I very much doubt we will have a Labour government in the near future.,

[@Lee-fc3yf]

With their hell bent mission to bankrupt the nation yup im afraid.

[@johnnygreen1376]

Apparently "Cup of tea mode" is still being perfected in order to ensure a by-noon return from combat.

[@chrisredding6673]

"Home for tea and medals". 😃

[@eddy_6502]

It will also have the spaghetti assault mode for the fights and the meatballs control to manouver the drones

[@chriswalford9228]

Swedes have subbed the wing manufacture out to Ikea flat pack division

[@michaelmckinnon1591]

Why doesn't the RAF refer to Typhoons as Typhoon IIs and the Tempest as Tempest II because of the Hawker aircraft of WWII?

[@gazof-the-north1980]

I heard they actually proposed calling it "Spitfire" but decided against as the Germans may not have liked it too much.....

[@B-A-L]

Because Hawker no longer exists.

[@kenstanway7625]

@@gazof-the-north1980 The Germans already got a bit upset over the name Typhoon.

[@slammerf16]

Best looking stealth jet, yet? Let's hope it actually gets to fly.

[@SMlFFY85]

Looks ugly to me, just like all other modern fighter jets.

[@TheHarrip]

I worked on Taranis. Tempest is going to be something special.

[@MOOREK031]

Whats the word on the magma drone. Surely there's a future for flow control systems?

[@jadams3427]

UK can't even make a trainer to replace the wonderful Hawk. Aeralis does not look like it will get anywhere. Hawk went from concept to operational in about 4 years.

[@KIM-JONG-UN-84]

The only thing that can stop this from happening is money.

[@tomcobbly8672]

Or a Labour government!!

[@gazof-the-north1980]

Just need Augusta Westland to come up with a next generation stealth chopper now.......

[@jonahwale721]

Went bust in 2016, swallowed up by Leonardo

[@siisaac9951]

About time the UK started to show the world technology can beat numbers!!! What other larger countries have like China and Russia

[@raywhitehead730]

Well not even close..

[@tsloo1620]

UK IS BEST!

[@craigs71]

Is the music at the start the 'Guild Report' from the movie Dune?

[@martinelliott8573]

How is it supposed to start and land on a QEC Carrier??????????

[@fmpApps]

Are the blue dots like the ones in Google Maps that show you where you are? Maybe they should call it 'Spitfire II'?

[@BeamRider100]

1:29 are they compressed air bypass tubes straight to the afterburner, similar to the Blackbird engines ?

[@DavidKnowles0]

May be, these engines are rumour to be design to push the aircraft well beyond Mach 3.

[@geoffreywardle2162]

Very good overview but needs updating now, thank you.

[@hrvojemikulcic7074]

Tempest je avion buducnosti (22 stoljece) koji treba imati mogucnost nosenja pametnih bombi bez motora koji mogu letjeti 30-40 km izvan dometa PZ obrane? 2 je pitanje doleta od oko 2000 km od tocke A do tocke B bez punjenja goriva!?

[@sonsofthesilentage994]

Tempest hasn't been created, tempest is a digital drawing

[@flyingdutchman7757]

😂😂😂

[@gordonlawrence1448]

Wrong. Several of the systems are already on Typhoon.

[@sonsofthesilentage994]

@@gordonlawrence1448 I'm not being funny, I see no Tempest squadrons. But more worryingly, I now see no Tornados, no Harrier, older Typhoon airframes are being retired, we're living on promises of AESA radar still for those that survive the cull... all for a handful of F-35 and how can there be Tempest parts on Typhoon? I have seen no Tempest built, no Tempest has ever provided a quick reaction to Russian incursions, here or anywhere else ... Because, we don't have any! I am ex forces and genuinely concerned. I live on the hope we have Taranis tucked away somewhere secretly lol. It is a shocking state of affairs, this country, this government needs to review our defence posture and our commitments to match reality or we need to arm our defence forces adequately. This is the sentiment behind my original post. I would be very happy if you could reply and tell me that I'm talking shit, but I'm not.

[@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM]

@@sonsofthesilentage994 : You're talking shit! You left yourself wide open there mate ;-)

[@oddmodbod2103]

Johnnie your forgetting the full sized plastic model Tempest that the RAF drag out at air shows....😂 2 Billion Quid ain’t developing shit with that.....No chance of being operational in the next 20 years or even 30 years.. Mean time 114 aircraft are being scrapped including 24 Typhoons....hitting 29 squadron OCU and a couple of our QRA Front line Squadrons at both Lossiemouth and Coningsby. No replacement Aircraft for these Older Airframes...It’s Disgusting especially when The Tiffy is currently the aircraft we actually need and needs upgrades, At a time when the Squadrons are so busy....especially against Russia and with on-going Middle East Operations and defending not just NATO’s Airspace But our Own..😡 Notice the Germans are replacing their older Airframes with brand new Typhoons....which aren’t even being built here.. As long as Boris keeps waving the flag 🇬🇧 it doesn’t matter....

[@firoska5184]

Were do you get this information?

[@Happy-wb8gi]

Uk and Italy😁👍

[@kalicom2937]

And Sweden

[@bradz9413]

Thoroughly enjoyed your video 👍👍👍

[@kochmuncher4471]

Is Dune music playing?

[@scepticalwalker3984]

When the French drop out of the other (French/German/Spanish) project, the two European projects will merge. I don’t think Europe can do two 6th gen fighter projects in parallel. But I believe competition is good especially at the concept stage. May the best design concept of the two be continued. With experience from the Typhoon, Rafale and Gripen (Griffin) they should come up with something good eventually.

[@orangenotviolet]

Given the difficulties the US had with their 5th generation fighters, given the omission of this step by british air industry and given the fact that brexit will drown the militarys bank accounts as well this all seems like pure hybris.

[@Veldtian1]

Did you say 'hypbris'? Like a synergistic blend of hype and hubris? Pure genius!

[@paulross225]

We'll be consulting the Netherlands on how to attain high altitude.

[@zipz8423]

That’s exactly what it is. We need to at least sound relevant in the post Brexit world. This aircraft will never become reality but the Brexiters lap this sort of stuff up - and keep voting for Johnson.

[@rockinwackyidk]

35 F35s? Where did that Number Last time I checked we Had 21

[@gordonlawrence1448]

We have reduced procurement from 140 odd to 48. This is for several reasons. Firstly the F-35 is laghably detectable by the typhoon IE we can launch at it before it ac launch at us, and it has the payload of an athsmatic gnat. If the Typhoon had been navalised (which is not that big a job) we would not bother with F-35 at all.

[@davidhouseman4328]

@@gordonlawrence1448 No, we haven't. The only thing the defence review said about the F35 is we will buy more than 48.

[@hughsmith2657]

@@gordonlawrence1448 wish they had, a far more capable aircraft, and a beauty of a spitfire

[@ToffeenoseToffee]

@@gordonlawrence1448 the f35 is capable of stealth. It just wouldn’t be able to communicate with the typhoons is it was made stealth. Typhoons electronics ain’t up to it

[@drawingdead9025]

I heard the latest 'plan' was 48, down from the original ~135.

[@rrocketman]

Thanks for this 👍

[@chrisjones1798]

What are the tunes used in this, I like em

[@JosephHolroyd]

If we buy more than 25 of these, then I will be profoundly shocked! They'll probably cost £200 million each!

[@alistairbolden6340]

They will cost more than that way more. We have already put 2.5 bill and that number will go up to at least 8bil. The Tempest is not just a more advanced jet fighter it's a change of military doctrine the succession of drone tech and AI over man. But yeah the plan is to use these along side the f35 and strike drones, as command and control jets you should really not ever need more than 10 because there job is not to strike targets but support the drones that do. It will be used mostly with the new type 32 Frigate the worlds first drone based navy ship. UK AI and Radar tech is far advanced of even the USA, that's why this is possible. It's really the drones that will take over the Typhoons role, the Tempest will be there to offer control functionally should our satellite network be taken out.

[@UkSapyy]

HS2 costs 72bn. People seriously underestimate the money availble for these kinds of projects. We can afford it but it's about how can we justify the investment. The current UK stance is that we're outfitting the navy and RAF again and they'll want the latest tech if they are expected to become / maintain the leading european navy. Personally i'd rather see investment in civ R&D but UK is currently short on engineers and project managers in all civ industrys whereas the arms industry is ready to pick up the demand.

[@robertrock1578]

And we only have to wait 20 years for it to fly!!

[@robinbest2729]

Is that music from Dune (as in the original one)? I think it is the Dune music, I'm quite sure of it.

[@zombieshoot4318]

It is Dune. At least part of it. 😅

[@iwantyourcookiesnow]

It’s gonna be awesome, IF they are going to be make it. IF.

[@colcot50]

I’m surprised that they’re even considering a pilot. The cost of development can be reduced significantly if its a drone, I thought the F-35 would be the last manned fighter plane

[@patrickkelly8095]

Drones can be hacked. The Iranians (probably with help from Russians) hacked one of the US stealth unmanned drones and landed it at one of their airfields. They seem to have reverse engineered it and are making their own. So the problem with drones is that like any computer system. They can be hacked.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

They can remotely fry all of the equipment as well. So they can't use it. Same with all the choppers and fighters.

[@cesaravegah3787]

@@patrickkelly8095 Exactly, maybe is wishful thinking but I think that mamed combat vehicles won't be obsolete any time soon.

[@iwantyourcookiesnow]

No you can’t make a drone Hollywood movie. Tom Cruise said we need manned jets.

[@maxbodymass6288]

Some one said that in 1957. still waiting for it to happen the EE F1 lightning was to be the last manned RAF aircraft.. it retired from service in 1988

[@ENGBriseB]

The team Tempest will hopefully happen with Italian's onboard with the Leonardo Division. And the Swedish with SAAB. And now the Japanese with their FX program. And with BAE and Rolls-Royce for the Britain. A fantastic chance to build the best 6th generation fighter jet.

[@kaluleherman6844]

UK had relaxed militarly yet a country's strength is determined by how it influences other countries militarly and economic aid.

[@ENGBriseB]

@@kaluleherman6844 In 2021 the UK was the third largest Global defense spender in the world. According to (IISS) The International Institute for Strategic Studies Military spending 15th Feb 2022 and "forces dot net". Plus the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world GDP. And the F35 Lightning is 17% British Engineering.

[@blairrobert3438]

@@ENGBriseB Plus you can add tens of trillions to the UK's GDP when adding in the tax havens. Let the havens pay for tempest.

[@PhilR.]

I hope it isn’t merged with FCAS. It’s specs will be comprised to suit the French who will still have a tantrum that it isn’t exactly what they want, then leave the consortium to build another Dassault.

[@carldavies4776]

History certainly supports your comments

[@m.morgan6037]

Isn't that the music from the old school "Dune" movie?

[@Herr_Artago]

You forgot to mention Spain's CASA in the development of the Typhoon Eurofighter.

[@tomthompson7400]

Wonder where the pilot sits , in the aircraft , or back in base?

[@paladin5163]

Love that shape it reminds me of the old Skyray.

[@210gaz210]

Too meny curved surfaces for stealth, more of a test bed for engines and tec

[@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM]

@@210gaz210 : Eh? I'm sorry mate but you're blowing out ya arse. It looks just as stealthy as an F22 or F35. You've gotta factor in the materials used, aswell as the "special" coating they'll be using, just like all stealth aircraft. More to the point, I'm sure the airframe will be revised, continually as time goes on.

[@210gaz210]

@@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM Still a pipe dream

[@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM]

@@210gaz210 : Sorry mate (not) but I couldn't help but read your reply, in a petulant childish voice. Are you gonna take your ball home aswell? :'(

[@RogueWraith909]

@@210gaz210 YF-23 had better stealth than the YF-22 during tests... not many straight lines on that beauty.

[@sachinmesta4238]

CAPTOR E was supposed to come in 2014 for Eurofighter still its pending

[@JonathanJBoyle]

I see lots of pics of mock ups. Where is the information on when the Tempest will be operational? Is there even a test aircraft yet?

[@dandare2586]

Try Microsoft flight simulator 😉

[@peterbuckley3877]

Got it in one, it’s no more than a mock up and all CGI using weapons and technology that doesn’t even exit. Meanwhile Australia is actually building the drones and have all of this technology in swarm drone for our F 35’s in test right now. If this plane ever gets off the ground it will be nothing like these con men are claiming.

[@RuneRelic]

I guess the hard part will be trying to drag the pilots out of the plane.

[@enochpowelghost]

Britain has a history of producing and designing leading edge aircraft at a fraction of the usa budget, sweden knows this as they too are quite competitive and produce top notch aircraft.

[@duxd1452]

Involvement of the Netherlands? As a dutchman I must say I find that HIGHLY unlikely. We just upped our buy of F35's and all indications are that we will be flying that plane alone for the foreseeable future. There is zero discussion here of building a 6th gen design because unlike countries like the UK or Spain we don't have a 4/4.5 gen fleet left to replace after the introduction of the F35.

[@zipz8423]

This aircraft is meant for public consumption only it will never exist. It’s how Brexiters are kept in line.

[@choncord]

@@zipz8423 Get over it. You lost.

[@166PolarBear]

IF and it’s a big if, this does go ahead , how many will we get ?, I’m guessing under 50

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Why this is the Warmed Over Vulcan test bed. Clever men at RAF and All That. Cheers!

[@onetwo5155]

But, will it have heated seats for the AI..?

[@lulzimbeka2209]

God Bless 🇬🇧 ❤️👍.

[@davidmatthiesen1494]

Remind me of Fire Fox Clint Eastwood movie 1983.

[@AidanMoore-o5u]

This will undoubtedly outclass anything that any other nation can offer..

[@blairrobert3438]

British engines with Japanese electronics are very appealing.

[@davidgifford8112]

This looks likes a TSR2 to me.

[@Tigercatflyboy]

Yes, David, let's hope and pray we do not get another pacifist Labour government to destroy this amazing bit of kit, the TSR2 was 10 years ahead of anything the US or Russians had, it was light years ahead.

[@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM]

:-/ Should've gone to Sepecsavers mate.

[@dandare2586]

@@Tigercatflyboy TSR2 was fatally flawed.

[@DavidKnowles0]

@@dandare2586 yeah it wasn't American that design and produce it, Concord had the same flaw.

[@eddie8414]

Long live the Realm!

[@mitchfromtheinternet297]

Let’s all be honest, we just know this will fall into huge cost overruns, delays, and will not live up to expectations.

[@zrepeels]

Like the F35, then.

[@cameronlaing261]

All weapons do tho. Like the vangard class sub. But we still got them going

[@joehodgy]

Or it'll be ground-breakingly brilliant and under budget....then get cancelled.

[@dennissmith6783]

@@zrepeels Very much like the F35

[@zipz8423]

Not even that good, I’ll bet £100 it will never fly at all and will be quietly forgotten as we put an order in for the latest American offering.

[@michaelwong4303]

Very impressive......But what do you think the 🇺🇸ns will have by that time?

[@aaronthebest5519]

So? America’s best ally is uk, and uk’s best ally is America, why are you implying we would go against each other? Why are u also suggesting that America leads the race in fighter jets? The uk developed the first jet which could land vertically

[@michaelwong4303]

@@aaronthebest5519 yes 🇬🇧 & 🇺🇸 are allies. I am just comparing their hardware for the sake of comparing, just like people comparing their Porsche with their Ferrari 😁 Yes yes yes 🇬🇧 made the first vertical take off jet but that plane had quite a limit of operation capability eg low payload and short range......And that idea of "viffing" had never been tested in real battles.... Some school friends of mine, in the old days argued that "look even the 🇺🇸an buy our Harrier!!" Ar yes, the uS Marine bought it, but the us navy has not bought it to replace the then F14 and F18.....And it was MacDonald Douglas that made their version with a much greater payload.....

[@mrknowles1540]

Shit man the army gets all the toys, I can't even ride my escooter lol

[@mrknowles1540]

@CMB well this will definitely be interesting to find out but with AI involved the movie stealth comes to mind 😂🤣😂

[@TheMono25]

Really looking forward to this fighter hopefully it dont turn into the terminator

[@zipz8423]

It’s just propaganda.

[@chriskershaw597]

Tempest will fly manned or un manned , with 8 drones as standard.

[@raywhitehead730]

What Briits should do: cooperate with the Americans on building the next fighter, but the Brits make the engine. Which, is something they ARE really good at, still.

[@williamevans7454]

British make engine usa makes the body work

[@raywhitehead730]

I worked on Rolls Royce, Pegasus engines waay back in the early 1970's....they were excellent engines.

[@05Rudey]

Looking at the trouble the F-35 is having, they may have to fast track this.

[@williesreserve7475]

american military technology is nothing more than a school project for all the other kids to copy..

[@colinporter7108]

Well. I'm please that the UK attempt to invest in its own capabilities. But is all this all still on paper and models?

[@soundknight]

Running two stealth and a legacy program will be quite expensive.

[@iamspartacus8219]

It will be like everything else we purchase. Overpriced, overhyped,overdue!

[@CH-pv2rz]

and canceled...

[@pedrofmc0000]

German, British and Italian consortium... Sorry? Spain is a part of that consortium too man... And again: "...is implicitly a rival to the German-French airbus assault future combat air system project which also includes Spain..." Sorry?* Spain has a participation of 33% in the *"FCAS"* and it isn't Airbus who will develop the aircraft but Airbus, Dassault, Indra, Sener, MTU, Tecnobit and a long etc of companies from these countries.

[@kalicom2937]

I saw Indra mentioned and "screw up" sprang to mind.

[@scepticalwalker3984]

Spain is in a consortium with Germany and France. The Tempest is a separate consortium with UK, Italy, Sweden and possibly the Netherlands.

[@pedrofmc0000]

@@scepticalwalker3984 First I was speaking about the consortium of the Eurofighter... The video only named the German UK and Italy. After that, I wrote of the FCAS where, yes, Spain is with Germany and France with 33% of participation in the program for every country.

[@DavidKnowles0]

@@scepticalwalker3984 An may be even Japan, Australia, Turkey is also rumour but there a lot of people fighting a rear guard action to prevent Turkey from joining.

[@alansutton9388]

Don't get high hopes it willing go the same way as the TSR2

[@ericlees7518]

will it ever happen ?

[@animalanimal7939]

This is what will happen. Mission pause for tea and crumpets.

[@proper_gander3608]

Naturally.

[@jackspratt4343]

tea and medals

[@user-ei3dq2dw6i]

Lets be fair my fellow brits this aircraft will never be built for the uk

[@gammonsandwich1756]

Oh look, another "We can't do it Brigade" nation knocker.

[@drawingdead9025]

@@gammonsandwich1756 It isn't a question of 'can't' it is the UK won't.

[@leswilliamson3587]

Great looking design.

[@XYZ-bi9eb]

the tempest will be a great fighter after it deploys in 15-20 years.

[@KIM-JONG-UN-84]

Yeah. F35 and Euro will be here till 2035-40

[@jovianr900]

However, the UK government's plan to only buy 3 of these somewhat reduces the credibility of the programme.

[@metalfan6988]

Omg cf 44 from ace combat is real 😯

[@julwiezdeghorz5089]

Achilles heel of expensive 5th gen aircraft are its airbases. One strike on an airbase and boom. That is why Russia focuses on hypersonic missiles and North Korea followed.

[@Helliconia54]

how will Brexit affect britain's aircraft development?

[@Idahoguy10157]

When the Tempest deploys? How about when will there be a flying prototype? In five too ten years? A flying able to fight wars Tempest ready for squadron service... Within 15 years? Only if all goes well!

[@maximewerd1295]

Flying prototype is 2025 apparently.

[@krackerman3628]

@@maximewerd1295 Never happen

[@maximewerd1295]

@@krackerman3628 All prototypes get built but that doesn't mean it won't get cancelled, look at the TSR2 should of been put into service but it wasn't which was a crying shame, I understand your scepticism I just hope your wrong.

[@gordonlawrence1448]

@Robert Dawson. I was involved in Typhoon. The only reason that took so damn long from conception to first flight was the amount of dick measuring contests and the French spitting the dummy out of the param. Once those were sorted it was a mere 26 months.

[@Idahoguy10157]

@@gordonlawrence1448 …. I never understood taking France on as a partner in a defense program. If if it makes you feel any better the USAF would have had the F-35 in service a decade earlier if it hadn’t had the navy and marine corps to satisfy. Too many conflicting requirements to meet

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

This plane is being designed to accept Ai systems that haven't even been built yet. How can anyone compete with that. If you understand Ai and how it outsmarts humans, by the time this plane is out there these systems will be awesomely powerful. It ill be able to identify what needs to be done and millions of times faster than a human can think. The Ai will run millions of outcomes in milliseconds and always chose the most effective action.

[@derf9465]

Like all home made aircraft, it will come out, air display variant.......give it 10 yrs then it will be operational ish....

[@babyyoda6549]

The last time the British Air Force built the airplane superior or pretty close to what the Americans have was in World War II with the spitfire

[@piotrd.4850]

Funny thing ... almost 4 _decades_ have past and no design managed to come close to ambition, scope, shape, coolnes and performance of YF-23 (or "even" F-22).

[@dennissmith6783]

They just don't make them like they used to.

[@zipz8423]

And it won’t anywhere else.