This Is What You're ACTUALLY "Opting In" To... And It's Horrifying

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[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

I think technological progress is eventual resistance is futile - HOWEVER, I think the underlying issue is that people may value experiences more than they value people - and that is a fundamental societal flaw. I think it is naive to think artists have job security in fact the music industry is pretty punitive for many people that want a career in music. For artist performers the market is relatively small and the industry at many points is a loss business not a profit business. While some people do make money from it many are paying music maker consumers. In general there is likely more ROI being a youtube content creator than a music maker alone in fact the trend has been to scoop up content creators and rebrand them as music makers because the general content creation may still have some profits while it is much harder to break into the music industry for the vast majority of music makers. I think for you you may be protected a little more due to possible professional protections much like with Dr.'s legal professionals or any one a member of a professional body may be better protected from being replaced by AI due to professional standards organizations not readily licensing or allowing things to perform say the legal profession without being a member of the professional society. I think for those types of content creators who are providing information related to their profession such as legal educational information or providing legal education / information - it won't be quite the same as say AI reimagition of your legal information or professional opinion. With music we arn't so protected as a profession outside of the limits of copyright and right of personality etc.. Ultimately its easy to see there has been pushbacks on people trying to protect their right of personality such as voice or image, and interpretations of their works its pretty clear that has been what has been ongoing for the last couple years surrounding AI. As far as the contracting in regard to protecting your works by signing over your right to your work being used by giving it to one company so others can't get it is a little spotty imo if it was purely only for protecting the work that is one thing but the inclusion of the ability for the work not to be protected for the company providing the service is totally spotty. Generally contract should be explicit though, at face value contracts have to have a meeting of minds that both parties understand what they are agreeing to for it to be binding so packaging the marketing as a method of protecting your work from unauthorised use while sneaking in the provision for unlimited use by the person who is suppose to be protecting the work from unauthorized use is one of them fine print issues Clear and Conspicuous Disclosure: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) requires that important terms and conditions be clearly and conspicuously disclosed, making it difficult for companies to hide fine print in small print or obscure language (e.g., [1] FTC v. Capital One Financial Corp., 2015). Unconscionability: Courts will scrutinize contracts to ensure they are not unconscionable, meaning they are unfairly one-sided or oppressive. This protection applies to contracts of adhesion, where one party has significantly more bargaining power (e.g., [2] Oliver v. Verizon Commc’ns Inc., 2013). Reasonable Notice: Parties must provide reasonable notice of contract terms, including fine print, to avoid allegations of fraud or misrepresentation (e.g., [3] United States v. T-Mobile West Corp., 2014). Enforceability: Courts may refuse to enforce fine print clauses that are ambiguous, misleading, or contrary to public policy (e.g., [4] California Business and Professions Code § 17500). Contractual Interpretation: Courts will interpret contracts in a way that is fair and reasonable, taking into account the parties’ intentions and the surrounding circumstances (e.g., [5] Cal. Civ. Code § 1636). Statutory Protections: Various federal and state laws, such as the Truth in Lending Act (TILA) and the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-SIGN), provide additional protections for consumers and individuals in financial transactions (e.g., [6] 15 U.S.C. § 1641). So long as the concentration of wealth is better enabled by technological means that will be the trend. Unfortuantely for capitalist soceities little value is placed on human incapacity, while socialism is often rejected even though it may provide income equalities and access to essential services for life like housing, food and healthcare. As a society it will continue to be a greater issue if income inequality and centralization of IP ownership and creation continues to be housed in bigtech rather than being equally accessible and merchantable for the masses of poor artists. The very issue is the valuation of the artist's work - sadly so many artists are given no support and are not valued by the public because only the product is viewed as an experience rather than a work of a creator where it is patronage of the work of the artist as a creation of that artist not merely a sensory experience that can be duplicated by artificial creation.

[@SophiesDriver]

I write a little -- random stuff that most people probably won't find interesting. But readers tell me I write well; and I consider my writing my own. I will sell a copy of any of it to anybody who will adequately pay for it. I will never "opt-in" to let anybody's AI learn from my writing. I have no need to be my own record company. I might have interest in becoming my own publisher. I find your content informative and interesting, even if not directly applicable to me. The "some streak in my hair" is pretty cool 🤣 Thanks for posting 👍

[@aikiwolfie]

A few years back KZbin restricted who can monetise their accounts. And now my content that is valueless to KZbin is going to be used to train AI? No! They can pay me if they want to use it. I mean my content isn't amazing. But they're happy enough to earn advertising revenue off of it that I see absolutely nothing from.

[@aikiwolfie]

... also, AI generated content is ruining KZbin.

[@exloopy]

i've been a songwriter since the 90s. kept writing that whole time, but gave up on getting signed, mostly because i didn't like what the lives of successful major artists looked like (things like all the waiting, playing the same songs, being "guided" creatively, etc). i think most of us are not realizing how much things have changed and will continue to change -- it is the age of upheaval: pandemics, storms, climate instability, fascism, genocide, desperation, migration. The shift in how things, people, places, and even ideas are owned is so vast it defies understanding. But there is also a rising tide of consciousness. More people from more parts of the world are connected, angry, and ready to work together. We need to work on our communities. Art and music are for everyone. This commitment will be necessary for us to survive. That probably makes no sense as a youtube content, but that's what I got :) Love your content.

[@Trippy_Dolo]

Just wait until it's automatic opt-in and buried in the TOS. Every site on the internet will start doing this eventually.

[@Jaspertine]

Exactly. I read over every word of the form over and over again just to make absolutely sure it wasn't a "do this to opt-out, otherwise, you implicitly give permission" kind of thing.

[@jasonmullinder]

It already had been for decades with personal data and photos etc. Its why AI has gotten to the point of development it's at now

[@Blueberrythegreat]

@@Trippy_Dolo you have to imagine is what they’re doing is not training AI. If you use AI, the only thing you have to do is change one little thing and it becomes yours. That’s a two-way street. They’re gonna take your song and change one little insignificant thing and they’re gonna copyright it.

[@C12omega]

omg yes just like how youtube forced us to have the updated Profile channels in 2014

[@GreyMatterShades]

Came to the comments to say exactly that. That's absolutely the direction they're heading. This stuff is depressing as hell.

[@skullz8946]

The notice is like a knock on the door, you clicking the checkbox is allowing them to come in, and once you turn your back they steal everything from you. Exceptionally shady shit.

[@reeread]

As my mother used to tell me; “to be a doormat, you have to lie down first”

[@Voose322]

The entire music community should put out the most unlistenable noise and opt that in to completely jack up AI

[@HyperNova137]

My observations of the industry over the past decade has me convinced that we're already halfway there, lol.

[@DaveandhisDeathbeanie]

They don't already do that?

[@Jaspertine]

@@DaveandhisDeathbeanie Trust me bro, we can take unlistenable noise to several other levels. Wouldn't even be hard.

[@notflanders4967]

bro lol don't tempt me. And as a person who cares too much what people think, this would enable me to actually post stuff... I'm considering it lol

[@Jaspertine]

@@notflanders4967 LOL, just be sure to tag it with popular keywords and the names of popular artists, to make it more likely to get scraped.

[@RobKMusic]

I guarantee you YT has BEEN doing this for some time and this "opt in" is to get ahead of litigation. In six months it will quietly be "op out" About a year ago I was walking in the park listening to a podcast on YT when an ad came on trying to sell me a night vision monocle IN THE VOICE OF MY BEST FRIEND. He has a small YT channel (about 3K followers) where he speaks a lot from his recording studio doing gear reviews and gear builds and stuff. This ad was his voice, his euphemisms, his speaking cadence, etc. 100%. So I sent him a link the ad and asked him if he's starting doing voice over work? Nope. He said "yes, that sounds like me and if someone told me I was drunk and recorded this ad spot and just didn't remember it, I would believe them". He emailed the company looking for answers and heard NOTHING back. About a month later I heard another ad on YT with his voice, but it had been pitched up so it was a little chipmunky... but yeah, still him. I told a few people and they were like "What are the odds in all of YT Land that YOU got served and ad in YOUR best friends voice?" Hmm, served an ad by someone's voice I am familiar with because I'm sub'd to his channel? What are the odds indeed?

[@Noksus]

That should be fraud. They are using their voice to coerce you into buying a product by making you think that someone you know and trust is recommending. How is that any different from deepfake videos showing someone doing something criminal or otherwise bad? Those ads should really be reported to some relevant authority.

[@Mountfailmore]

Adobe tried to sneak this into their TOS update, hoping no one would notice. The backlash was nothing short of spectacular, everyone ran for the hills and started switching over to alternative products. To this date we are still getting emails from Adobe begging us to renew our subscription. Guess these other companies have yet to learn how devastating the Bud Light effect can be.

[@roogrey]

I use Adobe products every day but recently reduced my subscriptions to the bare essentials. Thankfully, I never post anything to the ‘cloud’ and work offline, but the better tech gets, the more intrusive it becomes. So we run to the hills, but which hills do we run to? All the best.

[@Mountfailmore]

@@roogrey Look for open source alternatives. For example, when we installed a new PC system, we decided to not migrate our MS Office suite and switched to Libre Office instead. Open source alternatives offer a level of transparency that will protect the users' privacy and rights which you won't find with these boiler plate TOS from big tech.

[@br.m]

@@roogrey There will be no more "offline" when every PC and device come with built in wireless. Which of course they are already doing.

[@chris-yc1xj]

Yeeee budy!

[@roogrey]

@@br.m At the moment I am on a very old machine, which I stoke with coal from the back 😉, and I'm currently able to turn off my WiFi etc. Nothing gets in or out. However, as you say...

[@LostHate]

I hope everyone shares this video because the platforms won't tell anyone what is really happening.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

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[@Schuda]

Most disturbing is when KZbin says/writes in the policy section: "Also, because third-party companies are separate from KZbin/Google, ultimately we can’t control what a third-party company does." I mean that tells it all. No liability on KZbin's side. But let us set this straight, KZbin/Google is going to sell those rights to AI platforms and/or, my guess, KZbin is going to open AI platforms themselves and "pass on" those rights without any liability, but keeping the revenue in same household. One must be crazy to opt in on such.

[@CastleHassall]

good point about the distancing

[@PatrickRosenbalm]

KZbin needs a serious competitor. One that doesn't use AI and promotes itself as such. Applies to other similar companies too.

[@CastleHassall]

@@PatrickRosenbalm but Google own it.. they would not want to let it get big, on the play store they shut down Rumble at one point

[@MadNoisy]

My thoughts will be with you. Probably an AI platform creation of any kind but if youtube can push people to non-AI servers might be the key here.

[@brianhilliard6663]

@@PatrickRosenbalm Rumble?

[@LynnColeMusic]

I'm really tired of waiting for the world to get their heads out of their asses and start thinking about the bigger picture of ai. For the last two weeks, I've bee shaking the hell out of the impossible tree, and returning to first principles with it. I have figured out so much new science. Things that are going to help everyone, especially creatives. We need a response with technology that thinks about ethics, and privacy, that respects the creative process while preserving accessibility and experimentation. We shouldn't have to worry constantly about what the corporations are doing. We should be making them obsolete. Bear with me, I'm working on it.

[@GenetNasty]

If they are taking your/ my money , l am its employer.

[@qbamc]

Im a beat maker and opted out as soon as i noticed.

[@SineEyed]

No you didn't. Opting out is the default. If someone wants to opt in, they can do that - but everyone is already opted out from the get go..

[@JM-Unleashed]

Summary - They want you to own nothing & be happy. Right?

[@kbuzz123]

Congress is ignoring its obligation to manage royalties.

[@halloola3636]

Congress only serves the donor class...

[@chris-yc1xj]

"Copyright Registration" is 30 years behind, super low tech, someone needs to ........ hmmm🤔

[@halloola3636]

Congress only serves the donor class and themselves.

[@halloola3636]

Who does Congress actually serve?

[@Zvrra]

This is alarming!!!

[@LeanBearMusic]

Don't opt in. Nuff said.

[@TheTrinaBelamideNetwork]

Thank you for keeping watch over these things abd educating everyone. Am asking other artist friends to follow you.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

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[@chadowe]

“Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.”

[@jharris6089]

@@chadowe Unfortunate truth 💔

[@drindy5166]

​Pretty much. Just wait till it is a forced implementation in order to use KZbin as a platform. I will pull my music fast and take all money towards my premium membership and invest in my own website... Should anyways really 👊🧡👍

[@RealHomeRecording]

I'm going to assimilate the assimilators!

[@alexeilindes7507]

You get to tell kids about a free interweb though. That is the free bonus gift 🎁 😊

[@rodf.7849]

We need really strong, strictly enforced consumer protections against this.

[@puremusicdaz]

Does everyone remember when we did all this without the internet? Yeah, that.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

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[@MadNoisy]

ooh the days we swap out cassette tapes to share with friends and demos and stuff 🤘🤘

[@simplisticscientists]

I agree with everything you said! I am looking for the opt in switch and I can't find it! Please make a video where you clearly explain where all of these opt in switches are on various platforms! I would like to double check that they are all switched off!

[@debugin1227]

It might already have been used and now they are trying to sneak a consent…

[@SubhadeepDas]

If they are sourcing their training data from publicly available content for free, then they should also make their service available to everyone for free. Why should we pay them if they don't pay us? This should be made into a law and made illegal to charge subscription fees for AI services that don't pay while procuring training data.

[@halloola3636]

We live in a techno-fascist oligarchy, that´s why.

[@erikavery1105]

This SO FUGGGED UP! I’m selling my Music DIRECT!!!! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@markrichardsmusic]

Looks like it's about time for a class action lawsuit!!

[@SounflowProductions]

As a music producer, creating my own musical content for chill out video's, having 3rd parties AI learn from my signature style is self defeating and ultimately is working against my legacy as an artist. The whole point of YT was to build human expression and community for shared knowledge and entertainment, why would I hand that over to AI..

[@TopMusicAttorney]

I agree it can be disheartening!

[@nikhein]

The biggest problem is that KZbin and Google are NOT the "third-party". So they will use our content for their own AI even if you opt out. So I'm thinking about opt in just not to give the Google the total monopoly on it.

[@ThePCExpertAmateur]

When I saw that notification, I was like you "NO WAY!" Thank you for this video! Liked and saved!

[@ChrisCleek]

Eventually a given service will just say in their TOS that a condition of using the service is that you agree to grant them a perpetual license to use whatever content you post to use as they see fit for purposes relevant to the particular service they provide.

[@homelessballoon]

This option is not visible in my KZbin Studio account. Could the reason be that all my music online is distributed by The Orchard?

[@beat_avenger]

How do you opt out?

[@scottaugust]

Thank you for speaking out about this and spreading the word.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Grateful you're finding it helpful!

[@TJRtheOriginal]

Thanks so much for bringing this to our attention.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Thanks for the support.

[@cooljp1531]

You should not play along and use their terms like "training" AI. It's not training anything. All it is is sampling which is illegal to do without permission. Then it just spits out a slightly altered version of that when somebody types something into a prompt. It is sampling ( theft ) not training.

[@kadmus78]

How is it "fair use" if they've "trained" their AI's using data which is, for the most part, copyrighted and use those AI's to make a profit? That's exactly what copyright laws are supposed to protect - the use of someone's intellectual property by someone else, without approval and/or fair compensation. Now they're attempting to make it legal by asking creators to opt in, hoping that many won't read the fine print. Although, the issue in the first sentence is not yet resolved.

[@ChrisCleek]

Not necessarily, i've see completely original compositions by A.I. on you tube that is clearly in the style of the hair metal parody band Steel Panther and imho the average listener wouldn't know that it's A.I. derived, it sounds like a band that grew up listening to Steel Panther.

[@cooljp1531]

@@ChrisCleek Yes necessarily. There is no way for a machine to "ingest music" other than sample it from somewhere. A human can hear something and try to replicate it. A machine has to copy the audio from the internet or from whatever you feed it. It's not magic. In you example it just means that the version it vomited out was altered enough for you to think it's original while still recognizable as in style of Steel Panther. Still illegal.

[@SineEyed]

@@cooljp1531 fyi: you're 100% wrong about the way ai generation works. The information is out there, and has been the whole time these services are available to use. Your ignorance is self inflicted..

[@cooljp1531]

@@SineEyed Hello Chat GPT. Why don't you explain to me this magic of how your AI cousins ingest music without sampling it ( please note that, absorbing, ingesting, copying, recording or whatever term means exactly the same as sampling )

[@GrandThriftAuto]

Excellent points - but the elephant in the room is that the opt-in only applies to third parties. There’s no option to refuse KZbin itself (and potentially all of Google/Alphabet) permission to train its own LLMs.

[@angie99656]

Oh at this point I just expect I'm being stolen from. But they can't take the place of my band's live shows.

[@guitaristssuck8979]

Are they increasing?

[@susanwojcicki5714]

just wait 😂

[@angie99656]

@susanwojcicki5714 yeah AI can't perform live . Someone standing up there with a prerecorded backing track just doesn't capture the attention of a room like a real live performer.

[@DanielHeikalo]

Essential information. Thank you! You are eloquent, and knowledgeable. Keep it up!

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@LetArtsLive]

It was a long time ago when they asked me if I wanted to be a KZbin Partner and I was reading all the rules and I said no.... well now there are ads who actually gets paid for them I don't?? They actually put ads on my friend's band because it's a cover.. they put ads on my original music I made so that KZbin can't say I did something wrong they have actually said my song was owned by somebody.. and it wasn't even that good LOL and I was thinking about making another one.. what good is Art if you can't share it and then they can take it whenever they feel like it?? Yeah that pisses me off there are Christmas videos that are AI they are using people's old music from the 50s

[@Supergrunged]

This is exactly why it's suggested to read the "terms and conditions", before giving any personal indentifying information. But sadly, we live in a world that can't even RTFM.

[@Dark-Light_Ascendin]

Thanx, Krystle!!!!!

[@SoundEngraver]

I hate this. Thank you for notifying us.

[@MizZzChAvVvOzZz]

The positive is that if you're in their pool it should bring more traffic to your channel. But it doesn't sound like that is actually happening. It's all the negatives with no positives. In contract --- a judge typically hates contracts that only allow for one side to win in a transaction, so that is usually but not guarantorally the ruling in my limited experience in contract law from personal/business experience.

[@johnvender]

Something somebody pointed out is that in the selection of third parties one can give permission to use one's KZbin content to train their AI Google is not in the list. I'm wondering if that means that opting in means by default giving Google the right to train their AI with it or even worse Google using it even without one turning on the opt in.

[@kbuzz123]

What is the trend of all these digital music services that have come around over the last 20 years, the trend is that they squash the artist. Period... A bunch of software programmers, looking forward to their IPO s or their stock options, squashing things they don't really care about.

[@thecatfarm]

Great stuff. Thank you.

[@SiEffen]

Worth noting on the KZbin opt-in that this is for 3rd party companies. Google isn't a 3rd party to YT. So it doesn't seem too far fetched to think that they're doing it anyway with no option to opt out.....

[@atp19xx]

Fortunately this is mainly American problem. EU pretty much forces these companies to let users have their content off of those models. That's the thing that one Meta AI chief of something was complaining about some time back with arguing how EU hurts the "archiving cultural aspects" or whatever the wording was there.

[@acebutter9241]

@@atp19xx Yeah and I don't think your new oligarch Musk goverment will do anything about this. They'll probably encourage it.

[@atp19xx]

@@acebutter9241 *their, I'm in EU myself.. But yes, I don't believe for one second that Americans will get any appropriate protections against training machines.

[@richiebricker]

Google and Microsoft already take your videos and photos. Theyve already done this at least 3 times and have not asked for any permission then have resold the stolen art. Im sure they will continue . Maybe this will help them in court, IDK. The courts are waiting too long and have yet to do anything other than handing them manifest destiny

[@kenthhagstrom]

I think most people are totally unaware of this horrible saga. You explain a big problem with simple words, more people should watch and learn about these outrageous attempts to mislead! Kidnapping content must be stopped!

[@crmuth]

You are excellent. Do you rep TV producers for sales to networks? This analysis is SUPERB and this is insidious. Especially the specifics around the consent part

[@voices-app]

I just started my second YT channel over the holidays (not this one), and saw that checkbox. Thank you for educating us on this, and am so happy I'm one of your subscribers.

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[@cloakthescribe]

As creator of not just content but all around I do take issue with it. And have already been approached by Tunecore where I did not by any means opt-in.

[@tinasmith1391]

I miss the days when everything in the news wasn't just more dystopia. Thanks for the update though.

[@markhaliday]

In France when you are a songwriter / composer, when you join the SACEM (society of authors, composers and punlishers of music) which is the the main body that deals with your IP rights, you agree to never sell or give up you intellectual property in any way, or you can be literally kicked out of this organization. Because you gave them on joining the exclusive right to authorize the normal use of your creations. I doubt whether SACEM or even the EU will allow this IP scam

[@JM-Unleashed]

Thank you for this important video! 👍 and shared on my community post.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Thanks for sharing! Glad you're part of the community!

[@gavina.miller]

I remember when I studied contract law sooo many decades ago, there was mention of the condition of a contract to be fair and equitable. If the contract favoured one contractee over the other, the contract can be made null and void. Is this not the case any more, because this right here really favours big tech over content creators... optional or otherwise?

[@vremster]

Logically followed through, showing all the pitfalls. Well done, Miss Krystal! Amazon does the same thing with niche creators. Copy a product with huge margins, then sell it for less. This stuffs Amazon's pockets and kills the original creator.

[@myronagilmorejr]

Thanks for the update

[@MAWvR3ALITY]

You've so eloquently articulated my first simplistic and instinctive reaction to KZbin casually offering the 'opt in'. At the time I didn't get beyond 'seems suss - am I waiving copyright.?' Glad the Algorithim sent me your video, as I now don't feel quite so paranoid.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Sanity checks are a good thing!

[@deantopping2353]

We're all screwed, nothing you can do...sue them? Good luck!!

[@jaydavee]

I wonder if a human creator gets shadow banned, virtually exiled for refusing to opt in and retaining other personal privacy options. This is also reminding me of how cryptocurrency exchanges are very intrusive, and they ramp up their intrusions annually. I've burned bridges with two of those for being obnoxious and creepy.

[@revenantband1]

As a musician/writer, I've been fascinated for a long time with how the music business works. Stairway To Heaven isn't close enough to Tarkus to be infringement...but Creep is too similar to Air That I Breathe?? There are literally tons of Blues songs that are all based on Stormy Monday. The Bo Diddley Beat is on countless songs. So I wonder if these companies aren't going to train AI on existing songs and then just instruct it to change one chord progression slightly, or just use generic 12 bar blues I-IV-V progressions. To use the movie analogy, how many Westerns have we seen with the same elements? People scattering in the saloon when the bad hombre in the black hat walks in. horses galloping next to steam powered trains, and Indians speaking either perfect English that they learned from missionaries or pidgin English that " Me learn from bluecoats at fort"? How many generic Fantasy films that borrow heavily from Star Trek and Star Wars?

[@SteveHigney123go]

The AI concern was a major issue in the recent Hollywood strike. It was resolved so the strike ended. I wonder how some of those details would compare to the information you gave us here today. Thanks again for always being on top of the issues that impact our content.

[@GodsUnrulyFriends]

"The convoluted wording of legalisms grew up around the necessity to hide from ourselves the violence we intend toward each other. Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. You have done violence to him, consumed his energy. Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: "I feed on your energy." - from the Dune chronicles by Frank Herbert

[@abassra]

Been a studio owner/ producer for a long time and I've only just found this channel!! Awesome information! keep it up! 🙂

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[@redfernguitar]

The only platform you want is WordPress on a server

[@skyhorseprice6591]

_Thank you_ for the heads up! I had no idea that you tube is doing this. If You Tube does this, what they'll wind up with is a bunch of bots creating music for .... _A bunch of bots!_ Who the hell wants to listen to that? The humans will all go somewhere else and create a new platform.

[@mikesveganlife4359]

Check out the theme of the movie Looker from 1981. No idea of the tech today, but in that one they are having women get surgery to hit very specific metrics for advertising. They would scan the models into the system and then they could put them in any commercial they want. Oh, they would kill the models after the scanning.

[@neolynxer]

They will use your videos as training data no matter what. They will just redo the prompts if they contain actual channel name in a more vague manner. Unless you can prove they did use it, you can not do much about it. The opt-in is just a for show and to say that "hey, yes, we did use our huge big data to train our models, but only those who opted in". In actuality they will use all of it,

[@CeruleanSky1111]

This is 100% total and unabashed GREED!!

[@detromaniac]

Fun fact: user input on captchas have been used for this for years.

[@jasonmullinder]

I saw this a few years back with Microsoft rewards giving points that could be exchanged, searches, quizzes etc were used to train their AI then the requirements increased for less rewards as the AI got closer to being finished. The problem with youtube is they never charged anyone to host content but it goes back further to the 90's early internet trading ads and data instead of charging fees

[@BananamessS]

New to channel. Thanks for sharing important info. The answer is always 'hell no'. Hopefully this video will wake up some people.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Thanks for being here!

[@k.t.1198]

What is the cost to copyright an Lp or 💿 CD

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Hey - please feel free to reach out and we can help with this - [e-mail].

[@BlackThistleTattoo]

We all need to go back and learn those age old Fables. It reminded me of the scene in Pinocchio while travelling on road the two “friendly” wolves pop out from behind the tree. “hey Pinocchio wanna opt into our AI ? its all fun and full of benefits!” Yea for Us.

[@QueenbeePlayer]

I have a question, why when I click to sub to you do I get a pop up that only gives me options to become a member and doesn't let me just sub? I am not saying I wouldn't sub, but I tend to sub first, become a member later. but it won't let me do that on your channel?

[@TopMusicAttorney]

That's weird! Please reach out and I'll see how I might be able to help - [e-mail].

[@QueenbeePlayer]

@@TopMusicAttorney Thank you for getting back to me, it was the wierdest thing, every time I clicked on Sub it just bought up the member option and didn't change the Sub status, however, its all good as I just checked your channel again and it shows me subscribed now! 😊🐝

[@gavina.miller]

The other thing I'd say about all this is, great!! Bring it on. Clearly this is in order to save/make more money for the companies, but who's going to buy the content? We already live in a world where we have to choose to eat or heat. Eventually no one will have the funds to consume the content "created" by the companies A.I. Clearly the concept of money and finance is no longer fit for purpose.

[@roogrey]

I managed to get out of the TuneCore AI program before it started, but I’m still concerned that my music will get used. Well, at this point, I’ve little to lose; the music is okay but not there yet, and I’m considering a move away from TuneCore anyway. It looks increasingly like DTC is the way to go.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Please reach out if you find yourself needing legal assistance - [e-mail]

[@complexity5545]

I am a music producer, and computer scientist: they're going to use the data no matter what. I was also a patent assistant that helps people file patent and copyright). You guys are blind and death if you think all that data and wave files are not going to be scraped by an A.I. bot. I knew this was coming back in 2006 (with youtube). Us CSC guys have known about this since about 1999. We've been planning to monopolies the industry so that there will probably be 4 different main companies (correlating to the time zones). You guys are real late and its not going to stop. You about 20 years too late. The whole point of all of this is to remove societal groups and replace humans. with automation. I know you believe you have the 3 branches to back you, but we don't. You have to be able to run your own a.i. I've personally been working on A.I. that can emulate any voice as long as you train it. We do this with video effects too for film||movies. And that was about 17 years ago. Either get a programmer to help prepare your music business or find a tech guy that knows this stuff.

[@skyhorseprice6591]

K i went to privacy policy & terms of service & could not find this OPT IN/OUT thingy anywhere. Where is it?

[@RiksVids]

In Channel Settings....click on Channel, then Advanced....it's under Third Party Training

[@BernardShreveJr]

Well I hope the robot producers have robot fans with "human" likeness. 🤔

[@terryhigson434]

If they are asking, its already been done.....

[@seansarto]

Before monetization began what were your videos worth? Did you have a background in making videos? Did you go to school for production? Did you work in the industry or in your community making videos?

[@CastleHassall]

KZbin don't even pay a fair cut of advertising revenue to people these days

[@Blueberrythegreat]

My perspective is I’m gonna delete all my videos off KZbin today. what they’re doing is outrageous and it has to be an invasion of privacy somehow

[@SineEyed]

Ffs get ahold of yourself lol. Everyone is opted out by default. Content creators can opt in if they CHOOSE to do so..

[@stueyapstuey4235]

Just to cover off the sneaky changes to terms of service, might it be possible to formulate a generic copyright disclaimer, similar to that used by authors in their printed work 'The right of [insert name] to be identified as author of this work has been asserted in accordance with [cite relevant law]' ? It could run something like 'The material on this channel may not be appropriated for AI learning, etc. on any platform or, digital medium without the expressed consent of the content creator.' Obviously, this example is merely to indicate a potential solution (I'm not a lawyer!), but there could be an 'industry' standard disclaimer to protect creators. It would also seem appropriate, as a basic point of law, that all AI platforms should be excluded from 'Fair Use' criteria. Thanks for the heads up, on the issue - it is really important to understand the way things are moving.

[@PhilipKuehn]

This is appalling. Thanks for bringing it to our attention

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Glad you found this helpful!

[@jtvtech5622]

Company: "Hey your content is very valuable, and we need you to allow us to use your content to create better AI." You: "Well if you have AI, just tell it to make you some valuable content." Company: "No, it doesn't work like that. It's complicated, you wouldn't understand." You: "Well I thought it was AI. Is it not? And would you be able to pay me for my content?" Company: "I could pay you, but not right now because we don't know how valuable your content will be for AI or how it will be used for training." You: "Okay so you need my content, but won't pay me and your AI cannot create valuable content so what am I getting out of this?" Company: "Trust me bro. It's going to be lit!" You: "Sorry not Opting in for this crap."

[@brandnewyou5254]

You've informed me so thoroughly and I really appreciate it I'm so glad I've just been sitting back honing my craft rather than putting out videos or Beats

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Thanks for the kind words! Please feel free to reach out and let us know what you're working on - [e-mail]!

[@Turtlpwr]

We live in a dark timeline.

[@rgnestle]

At least KZbin isn't automatically Opted IN!!! Eesh!!! Thanks for the info!!!

[@TheImageDoctor]

Music is the "canary in the coal mine" of AI

[@timothywcrane]

KZbin is not to be left out of this madness with only a simple notification. I just tried to make a Second KZbin channel. I have been a YT member for longer than YT has been a G product. I use my own name. I have a purchase history under this account with a card on file to pay for services I use (not for long. I have had enough). YT has decided that for me to now upload to a new Channel, I need to 1. Give them Photo ID 2. Give them a 8 second video clip or 3. Wait long enough for them to have a history on me that verifies my ID. WTF? I went to court a few months ago and won because I would not ID to a curious cop and refused to be robbed, and now YT has the gall to try and pull the same shake down. There is no validity to their claim... and people fall for it. I started YT while I still had a Geocities page FCOL... and free dial up was used to create the account, with a hotmail I think.. Not enough historical validation? If you are that stupid or that willing to lie, you are the last person I want with my ID in their hand. They will keep your ID, your video, or historical "needed data" for 2 years, or 1 year AFTER you no longer use Google (meaning they can get a cookie loc on you, which is everywhere and forever). KMA.

[@lazarustonk7900]

I’m a Country Music Singer Songwriter. At first I was very concerned about what you were saying. After some thought though I reconsidered. My music is still based on what I learned from playing hundreds of shows in several genres. If what is ultimately created is indeed unique I don’t see any need for concern. If I detect “ME” in anything that’s created via AI, an ass whuppin’ will be necessary lol

[@IanM-id8or]

As far as I can see, the *only* positive thing about this issue is that it induced KZbin to recommend your channel to me

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@song-explorer]

Thank you! No. You're not overreacting. The more I learn about these tech companies, the less I want to be involved.

[@Gravyandtatoes]

I worry about reaction channels that opt in to this who use a large portion of someone else's content. Basically they're opting in other creators without their consent.

[@tomazflegar]

Isn't it the same with trash companies where you pay them to collect and remove your trash, opt in into their services and sort trash or looking tv and then you got to watch lots of ads? Yes, you get trash removal, but they create something new you can think about 😁

[@DileepNow]

In instagram there is opt-out option only in countries where it is required by law. Says a lot about how meta operates.

[@VasBlagodarskiy]

AI models be like: “we’re just helping you own nothing so you can be happy. What’s the matter?”

[@korndogz69]

I've watched a few of your videos that piqued my interest, but this video made it clear this is a very important channel to subscribe to.

[@TopMusicAttorney]

Thanks for the kind words. Please reach out if you have any legal concerns. [e-mail]