This is where bucks hide in early fall - find their natural pattern! *no bait or minerals*

[@riverkatspeaks1827]

I'm an absolute nobody in the bowhunting "world". However as a guy who only bowhunts public land in Arkansas, I'll give everyone a piece of solid advice for finding mature deer in your area. Find the places people don't mess with. It could be a 3 acre spot behind the HQ. it could be a Y in a road or trail close to a parking lot where people just don't walk through. It could be the briar thicket 20 yards wide bordering the parking lot. Also use this strategy for high pressure areas and find the hidden areas that the deer go for sanctuary. If you have CRP, cutovers, etc., that are very thick, those are prime areas! Learn how to avoid where people go to target mature bucks.

[@andrewlittle4084]

Barry Wensel says the same thing!! I am a firm believer of your statement!! Awesome piece of advice.

[@karmas.busdriver]

Where I live we have lots of city deer including a few giants. one of which loves the mulberry bush in my back yard. When the berries are ripening, he inspects that bush almost every day until they're gone.

[@eddievannewkirk4458]

I hunt mainly in Northern Michigan on public land in the north I find predator populations and hunting pressure have a lot to do with how the deer use the area. If there are a lot of predators and pressure I find they will be bedding in the thickest areas usually near water with a backwall and several backdoor escapes usually with a lot of blow downs or super thick stuff that's almost impossible to walk through. If the area has a bit less predation and less hunting pressure I look more for the transitions and north facing slopes also near water. Northern Michigan has a lot of old growth hardwoods with gentle hills with creeks and swamps and I try to find the trifecta. Where the Hardwoods meet the swamps and a creek running through somewhere nearby, usually once you find that and a bit if elevation change you're close to the big bucks.

[@chrisgoodwin8146]

On the persimmons, the difference is in the variety. Some are astringent, some are non astringent. One “tasting like an IPA” and the other being delicious while unripe. Americans, commonly found in the wilderness, need to be soft before they’re palatable. Great video, looking forward to part 2 👍

[@IowaCoyotes]

Please do a podcast on hunting Oct 1st to last Oct. deer movement- where they hang out.

[@southernhood5145]

great discussion for this time of year. I'm about to really start putting out cameras

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

Glad you liked it man!

[@kelseymoss1984]

These guys are speaking my language

[@southernhood5145]

dang. y'all talking about bucks bedding at the head of an SMZ has got me thinking of an exact spot like that. the head is probably just 100 yards from the road

[@jondoe9077]

What is an smz

[@southernhood5145]

@@jondoe9077 thin strip of trees around a stream or wet area they don't cut when they do clear cuts streamside management zone

[@Echo_5_Charlie]

Also, can you guys show us how thick were talking when it comes to the high stem count thickets? Ive always had that question. thanks!

[@chrisgoodwin8146]

On the reverse SMZ’s do they face more E to W? Say the southern ridge is shading out the sunlight.. Or is it a shaded N-S SMZ that doesn’t have the undergrowth due to lesser sunlight from the shade off the southern canopy?

[@Echo_5_Charlie]

when you guys say drains, what exactly is that? Dry creeks coming out of the cuts between the fingers, or actual dry streams? I say dry, because the streams and creeks in the Ozarks are typicaly dry in the late summer early fall so im just trying to get an idea of what were talking about. thx!

[@hatemoutdoors2556]

Drinking game where you watch this video and have ro drink every time yall say "smz"

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

LOL!!

[@WesternNyBigfoot]

Some good points but idk cams tell you travel routes and bedding and where to set up

[@johncogburn302]

Really relating to this because my area of sc has a lot of thick heavy cover from DNR burning underbrush that has grown back over couple of years. Wondering if y’all are going to hunt sc this season and what part of state ?

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

We aren’t going to make it this season but it’s on our short list for next year

[@johncogburn302]

@@thesouthernoutdoorsmen do yall have an idea of what area yall are wanting to hunt in SC

[@Bleas128]

How about those SMZ’s

[@RichardDavis-w1f]

What do y'all got on hunting pines kinda hill country but Florida style

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

We’ve got quite a few like that

[@matthewhampton5680]

Man Cave question... What do you call that color pattern on the wall behind you? Thanks. Matt in Maryland

[@rettigc13]

Great episode guys! Something I think we would love to see is maybe some field footage of places like you’re talking about. If y’all need a place I have a club in Lowndes Co y’all could use! Plenty of SMZ’s and cutovers of all ages.

[@Brandon-uo1rv]

Good topics for sure. If you guys would just make sure to say the definition of any abbreviation that is used in an episode it would be very beneficial. They really only work well when it's common knowledge topics or you are going to repeat yourself so much within an episode that the time is significant. In this case SMZ is not common and most people probably don't even know what you are referring to without a good visual. It would have been much more clear to just say what it is and maybe even a visual representation. Thanks for doing the episodes though.

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

We appreciated your response and for you watching. We will work on adding visual examples in future episode. The new clips from this episode will have visual examples. They will come out Later this week. Thank you for your input!

[@whitetailrealityoutdoors958]

You have to be cautious hunting small private tracts of land.

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

very cautious no doubt'

[@NorthAlabamaOutdoorSportsmen]

🦌🦌

[@tjrhodes214]

Georgia hunting in 99% thicket with no trees tall enough to climb a can’t see past 5 yards . How do you hunt a buck like that

[@Jimmy2toes4u]

From the road apparently

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

Episode 600 will be a good fit for you. It came out two weeks ago

[@lorrimorseramos3333]

Just have to comment. With all the not hunting over the camera. I'm sure they are hunting over the camera. Just saying. I don't own a trail cam and get bucks yearly.

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

Thanks for watching!

[@charleyhydrick1820]

wht is smz reering to

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

@@charleyhydrick1820 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYPEc6SJrLiWodEsi=buegDWFZmbkSTE1x

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

@@charleyhydrick1820 we cover and show what an SMZ is in the video above. It’s probably one of the most popular features hunters in the south hunt but also struggles to hunt especially in pine country. SMZ is a Streamside Management Zone

[@beachboardfan9544]

Dunno if you can believe anything these guys say, look at those little bucks they have mounted...

[@mitchellbiggs5803]

Strongly disagree! The majority of hunters who use cameras are throwing darts with their eyes closed and are waiting for a reason to hunt that spot. Hunters ruin areas with how much they check them. Not one hunter by themselves, but collectively. Cameras accomplish one thing and one thing only, and that is to show you when you go in there just how many people are hunting public land now. My lifetime is screwed because more people in my age rang are hunting public land. If you are truly good at reading sign and woodsmanship, you DON'T NEED A CAMERA. They should be outlawed in every state. Weed out the lazy hunters.

[@daveyboy8907]

I'm for that..Never used them and have never wanted to..Nothing like thst feeling when you see a buck for the first time live in person.

[@Crayz919]

Cameras do more harm than good, I never had cameras on my farm and my neighbor had his farm wrapped up with cams and as soon as I put cameras out the deer stopped coming out and as soon as u removed the cams the deer went back to normal ... STR8FACTS ! Only cams I've had success with were well hidden and concealed from view of deer 🦌

[@joehorton01]

@@Crayz919your last sentence is the only thing that’s worth reading. You solved your own problem

[@ElephantInTheRoom972]

Public land yes private no, im sure I'm not the only one who has to drive hours to my spot, also, not like you can shoot them from the camera 😂 it's more about seeing patterns. Cams provide so much more data than just a picture, you can see feeding and drinking patterns, pressure, get an idea on bedding areas, and also poaching. I don't have the time to collect that data the hard way. I do however agree that it definitely makes hunters more lazy but look at the world we live in, everything's advancing along with hunting technology so of course hunters have become lazier overall. Knowing the weather is a prime example. It is an unfair advantage to those who prefer traditional ways though so I understand your point

[@nockreel1190]

Start destroying the trail cams on public. Nobody owns it when it's left on a tree. I don't destroy them but if they bother you that bad That's only bet. Be careful tho you'll end up hunting trail cams instead of deer😂

[@Crayz919]

Cameras do more harm than good...

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

We would like to hear your opinion on this. Could you explain?

[@Crayz919]

@@thesouthernoutdoorsmen I had never ran cams on my farm or period and my neighbor had his farm littered with cameras and then as soon as I put cameras out the deer stopped coming out and as soon as I removed them the deer showed back up as normal ! I have watched deer go out their way to avoid my cameras and their not even cell ! Only cams I've had any luck with were hidden and well disguised and concealed from the deer 🦌👀 sight ! I now have no use for cameras and hunting is more fun without cameras and the unknown anticipating the big buck u never seen is what keeps me going and theres nothing like using woodsmanship, intuition and seeing a bruiser walk in u have never seen is indescribable ! I go off skill and intuition not camera data & intel ! I have many B&C / P&Y on my wall and the day I killed them was the first time I'd ever seen them so , I didn't need cameras then and I don't need now or ever ....

[@chuckmcintosh6945]

Cell cams with a solar panel is the way to go. Hung early enough deer don't seem to mind them. SD card cameras or cell cams with no solar panel requires too much maintenance. You have to use cameras for inventory and be willing to let a camera soak without letting the anxiety force you to make mistakes. Instead of putting out like 10 cameras put out 1 to 3 per spot and try to limit messing with them at a frequency no more than once ever 4 to 6 weeks. I'd prefer 1 cell cam with a solar panel over a half dozen of cell cams needing battery changes. My last buck I ran one camera and it is still at 100% battery life after 10 weeks. My SD cameras I just go into a place I'm curious about and set the capture frequency to low and leave them until they die and retrieve them when and check the cards when I go in. If I don't have any shooters I may just change the batteries and card and slip out. 3 to 6 weeks later I'll repeat the process and that's usually mid to late October. If I don't get anything camera then I may pull it and cross that place off the list or I might change the batteries and let it soak till the end of the rut. Obviously minerals and bait helps but even then it's better to hunt the access trails the buck is using to access the corn than hunting over the bait.