This Is Why Charges Against Suspect's Father In GA School Shooting 'Send A Message': Everytown SVP

Nick Suplina, Senior Vice President for Law and Policy at Everytown For Gun Safety, joins Brittany Lewis on "Forbes Newsroom" to react to the school shooting at Georgia’s Apalachee High School.
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[@DrJuan-ev8lu]

If the son is being tried as an adult, how can the father be held guilty for his adult son. Or can the court view the son as an adult in one case and a dependent child in another case ?

[@rubenruiz2162]

It doesn’t matter the age of his son, he provided him the firearm to commit the crime. He made it possible for his son to murder four people and injure another nine. Had he not provided the firearm, this would not have happened. So, in the eyes of the law, he’s guilty, just like his son, regardless of age is.

[@coopyduck6901]

Good question.

[@richardtrowell8812]

​@@rubenruiz2162Do you think the father condoned his actions? Sounds like a jump to judgement without any facts yet. Other than what happened.

[@hukphin740]

Good question 🤔

[@karengordon6610]

Maybe because he bought and gave this kid this rifle, that’s why

[@MrCountrycuz]

The gun was purchased for his son. His son had the damn gun in his possession. It was the kids gun. He did not snatch the damn gun from his Fathers room.

[@icebergrose8955]

That father is criminal

[@gumshoegypsy]

40 years ago, kids would go to school with a rifle or shotgun hanging in the back window of their trucks. You didn’t have this kind of BS going on. …What’s changed?

[@mrbob19561]

Video mind fuck games to a young mind

[@markwriter2698]

Yes. I’m old enough to remember as much and it was rather common but those were rural communities where deer hunting was a thing. Society has definitely taken a turn. I suspect this is a way to become infamous.

[@karengordon6610]

We even had “gun safety classes”.

[@angiejohnston4834]

You nailed it​@@mrbob19561

[@hikingwiththedog6078]

@@markwriter2698 I didn't grow up in a rural community. I grew up in a progressive college town 30 minutes from Denver, and nobody worried about the kids having their weapons in the high school parking lot.

[@dtwr]

The police should have stepped in 2023 when he made threat online and it should have been a charge then and not allowed in public school.

[@craigsilver2146]

Finally some common sense

[@mrbob19561]

Police are not parents of society..

[@ghosty426]

Exactly Right!! This is not about our guns. This is about this upcoming generation's mental health. The focus should be on how mentally Ill and gender confused these children have been made by the schools.

[@billycarr1254]

How? If the FBI investigated and couldn't proceed further, what could local law enforcement do?

[@coopyduck6901]

The FBI should have told local sheriff’s office to remove all guns in the home and require continued monitoring of the kid and see if he needed therapy.

[@faithallen1169]

Who would buy an AR-15 for a 14 yr old kid with prior problems with threatening others?? A father who is totally out of touch with his kid.

[@jamesgreenler8225]

Same kind of person who would vote for Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[@waterhead1359]

@faithallen1169 the same kind of people who investigated him over a year ago and cleared him as a threat

[@candywevers1946]

I was literally thinking the same thing. Why does anyone need a gun of that magnitude, let alone a 14 year old? Military and law enforcement carry those…civilians don’t need something that powerful. And definitely not a teenager. 🤦🏻‍♀️my prayers for the family & friends of those involved.

[@shovelhead2155]

@@faithallen1169 Why didn't we have this issue when there were gun clubs and shooting teams in a lot of schools? Almost everyone I knew as a child had access to firearms, and this wasn't happening, so what changed?

[@faithallen1169]

@@shovelhead2155 Irresponsible parenting, not teaching gun safety. They weren't using assault weapons either.

[@Rubenbauer80]

The problem is kids can just say and do whatever the fuck they want to online with very very limited adult supervision if any. You either take electronics completely or they have almost full access to social media and there’s nothing you can do about it, every kid has a cell phone now and more than half have social media so when your kid comes home begging for the same things as his friends most parents give in. Make it easier to limit child’s cell phones and internet and social media. Enforce it at schools too. No child under 18 should have social media period. We need to stop giving our kids violent video games period.

[@inthekitchen8842]

Yes! Technology is ruining their minds. These cell phones are on them 24/7

[@nicolesweere4182]

There was plenty of violence before social media and video games. There is a ton of violence in countries with no wifi. Try again...

[@inthekitchen8842]

@@nicolesweere4182 not like this here in America. We've reached a new low.

[@slammermchammer]

I can't believe we're doing the violent video games argument again, we are going to blame everything under the sun except for the weapon aren't we. holy sh*t nothing's going to change ever LMAOOO. What unbelievable clown comment.

[@kimgregory2781]

I’m old as dirt, but we weren’t even allowed to have a calculator at school. Times have changed so much and I’m not sure for the better. Air conditioning is nice though. The idea of even shooting someone when we were that age was so foreign to us, except occasionally someone might get shot with a low powered BB gun, which we thought was a big deal. I’m rambling, but I can’t wrap my mind around all the stuff going on now. So glad my children didn’t have to contend with everything that’s happening now and they don’t have children so I don’t have grandchildren to worry about. I do really feel for everyone that is dealing with this, where their young ones are concerned. I know we all are at risk for a mass shooting at any public place, but when it’s your children it cuts deep.

[@malachi-]

"There is no minimum age requirement to possess rifles and shotguns in Georgia."

[@faithallen1169]

What about some gun safety laws in Georgia??

[@yepyep340]

You can even own a firearm In Georgia if your congenital one.

[@modestmouse2889]

Georgia prohibits the possession or control of a handgun by any person under age 18

[@faithallen1169]

@@modestmouse2889 How about an AR-15?

[@seanmanahan477]

​@modestmouse2889 the gun in question wasn't a handgun

[@goosecouple]

"As expected, they release a monster whenever an election is around the corner."

[@lindacalderon6417]

Yep mk ultra. Look for more.

[@russelldesalvo3728]

I live in my home by myself. I own several firearms, And I keep them all under lock and key. If you have kids and firearms you should keep them locked down. I will keep one our but again I live bt myself. Bottom line, If you own guns be responsible and keep them secure!! I believe the father being charged is very appropriate given the circumstances of this case.

[@JanetDetering]

Law or no law lock your dam guns up!

[@JodyLuvsHumanity777]

@@JanetDetering 👏👍💯

[@mrbob19561]

You got any?

[@JodyLuvsHumanity777]

@@mrbob19561 Generally speaking it's not wise to tell people what one has or doesn't have in regards to personal protection, especially for females.

[@billycarr1254]

Please stop conflating these issues. Locking up firearms is different than intentionally purchasing a firearm for an adolescent with emotional problems and a damn FBI investigation. Two totally different animals.

[@JodyLuvsHumanity777]

@billycarr1254 would you not agree that had dad secured the weapon as he said he does this tragedy wouldn't have happened? Children cannot fire weapons they don't have access to and guns are less likely to be stolen, hit the streets and get into children's hands as well if responsible gun owners were actually responsible and locked up their weapons if they're not carrying it on them.

[@shovelhead2155]

This dude stands on graves spewing lies and half truths. It will only lead to more harm not less.

[@SeanBotha]

They/them is a radical kamala supporter according to Twitter bio(pronouns from same profile). Proof kamala's violent rhetoric cause people to be killed

[@kimmartin6063]

Its not the gun. Its own him and his dad

[@kimmartin6063]

Secure all schools

[@anthonymordawski-uf6ie]

Ban ARs civilians dont need them sake up America you never resd about this in the UK or Europe 😢😢

[@topgrain]

And all malls, stores, restaurants, churches, fitness centers, recreational facilities, etc. The "well regulated militia" has forced our country into hiding. Not possible to live life normally.

[@billwendell6886]

Documented bullying. Charge the school officials who are failing to protect children.

[@richardkillinger8067]

If the FBI would have done their job.

[@sandraward116]

..if the parent had done their jobs..law enforcement can't be held responsible for for this kind of crap being raised at home...

[@kennyalbert3692]

​@@sandraward116law enforcement was onto this boy for 1 1/2 years

[@ThePaPaJoeM]

So somebody screwed up,this kid was on the radar for 1 and a half years.

[@waterhead1359]

The FBI and LAW enforcement that investigated him over a year ago should be arrested

[@nicolesweere4182]

The FBI did investigate him. What were they supposed to charge him with? How would the FBI have been able to prevent this crime without violating anyone's civil rights? There was nothing they could do. If the guns would have been locked in a safe, no one would have been shot. Why is this such a difficult concept?

[@lindawilliams2995]

You know what, i am so sick of people like this guy. Gun laws prevent nothing

[@waterhead1359]

IF A FATHER BUYS HIS SON A CAR AND HE ACCIDENTALLY KILLS SOMEONE WHILE DRIVING, SHOULD THE FATHER BE CHARGED ALSO

[@gregb4417]

You use "accidentally" here when it clearly was not. You are comparing apples and oranges.

[@JodyLuvsHumanity777]

@waterhead1359 unfortunately the kid didn't trip and fall while carrying a gun and the gun went off. This was intentionally done. Parents can be sued in most states and more if their children hit someone or get into an accident with their parents' car.

[@Noahbarkley-vq3ef]

​@@gregb4417you can't prove intent. You can't sit here and say that the father "knew" his son was going to do this. Even with a prior incident

[@beachgirl4truth672]

First, I BELIEVE in the RIGHT to bear arms, but to answer your question, THIS case is totally different from your example given as the father KNEW his son had emotional problems and admitted he had numerous meetings with school officials as his son was continually bullied at school, this father & son had just been interviewed by law enforcement in May 2023 after the FBI received tips that the son had allegedly made online THREATS that he was going to shoot up a school last year, yet the father STILL went out and BOUGHT an ASSAULT RIFlLE and gifted it to his son in December, and THEN FAILED to keep their numerous guns and ammo LOCKED UP!! THIS FATHER IS 100% CULPABLE in the senseless DEATHS and injuries to those at that school!! It’s irresponsible gun owners like THIS father that fuel the fire of the Marxists in our government that want to take away EVERYONE’S guns!! Instead, we NEED to make SURE that irresponsible gun owners are held accountable and NOT take away the RIGHTS of the majority who ARE responsible gun owners!! I have NO sympathy for THIS father, or lack thereof!!

[@Noahbarkley-vq3ef]

@@beachgirl4truth672 ok so let's go beyond the guns. What about centegix?!

[@Raven_57]

Do you go on and on about the violence of cars when a young person causes an accident. It is NOT the gun!

[@vinitasingh2625]

This guy answer makes sense 🙄

[@bobbyrowe4434]

It’s not the parent it’s the bullies at school that’s all this is over it’s the school system not taking the right measures to catch the. Bullies

[@huntersmoon2351]

Metal detectors

[@martinburns7928]

That's weird, "not that long ago" wasn't the sentiment law enforcement had ? And while addressing Fire Armes, Apparently we ignored School policies as well Our Constitution ? And why is it classes are offered for driving safe (which is considered a privilege) But weirdly, No classes for Fire Arm safety and maintenance (which is a God given right) ? Weird!

[@sherrycampion9119]

Why cant they make a trainning and law class for parentw who want to give guns to kids and then prosecute parents who disregard it instead of make parents responsible for etheir kids actions over thiss stuff. There are just too many kids out there who do NOT do these kids of things and they have guns and also kids who have guns around them unsecured. I can imagine that after thos epolice left and didnt do anything to his son he peopbable thought his son was ok to have one. This is ridiculous. All that is hammoining is that this man is being made into an example.

[@rachelwalker1135]

The issue here is not responsible adults having a gun in their house but the issue of an abusive father buying an AR-15 for a 14 year old (and disturbed at that). Adults need to store guns better and no need to let a 14 year old near an assault weapon.

[@billycarr1254]

This guy is disingenuous. Regarding Red Flag Laws, how do you justify removing firearms from a home AFTER the FBI concludes their investigation and find nothing to move forward on? The father is the person most able & responsible and he failed to secure his child as well as his firearms. I'm fine with punishing people for their direct actions and/or inactions. Red Flag Laws, Storage Laws and efforts to blame firearms manufacturers and retailers is an attempt at incremental civilian disarmament.

[@dtwr]

Parents definitely deserve to charged in this situation

[@Dreamworldpeace222]

As an American I don’t see no change other countries don’t have school shooting as you wonder why our kids fall short as well as the parents

[@craigsilver2146]

They use fists and knives

[@Stoicisbetter]

​@@craigsilver2146which, while damaging, have less potential to inflict multiple fatalities.

[@craigsilver2146]

@@Stoicisbetter multiple fatalities are done by (poisoning)depopulation agendas of all governments . Guns protect freedoms from controlling governments.

[@alliealaska7858]

Propaganda to take our guns.

[@jessicaRabbitt3316]

Yes yes yes this is immediately what I thought when I heard he had made threats online a year ago and they did NOTHING NOTHING to prevent this. Funny how an election is coming up too. All BS so along with dad the goddamn people who allowed this to happen should be in court with them

[@Stoicisbetter]

Nope, just some "common sense" laws to limit the crazies that have been allowed free access.

[@rambrozak]

Proper social skills , and having guns locked up etc…..

[@fehlrock]

This man is not an expert on this subject. Nothing he said would not have stopped this incidence.

[@etoradamaley4713]

Charging parents is a cop out. You claim it's a 2nd amendment right. You claim government shouldn't conduct background checks to consider mental state as a factor for gun ownership. So why put that burden on parents? Are they all now psychologists?

[@Stoicisbetter]

So, if I know my child has a mental health issue, I should buy them an assault weapon, but not be held liable?

[@etoradamaley4713]

@@Stoicisbetter What crime did they commit? Since when in this country is a parent responsible for a child's crime. What about all teenage crime? We have politicians taking Christmas picture shoots with kids toting AR-15s, and you want to tell me the buck stops with parents?

[@ivoted-5489]

I can’t believe this discussion is on Forbes.

[@user-vl8te2uo3r]

Having guns .......your right it is said. But firearms can be a risk to your own family. A depressed kid can use it against themselves.

[@donald2665]

Only your Enemy seeks to stop you from owning the firearms of your choice, or seeks to disarm you as a Citizen. Period.

[@kimmartin6063]

Should have been locked up last year

[@johngore9016]

I believe the involuntary manslaughter charges will stick for the parent. new or more laws would not have impacted this case; anyone who is going to hurt others wont care about laws. i praise law enforcement for their response but they could be culpable here also... where is the follow up?. where is "counceling"? It should have been required that he lock those guns up until the boy was cleared.

[@cowgirl3144]

There are SO many instances where a shooter has threatened before, and NOTHING happens. IDo you honestly think that if there are no access to guns is going to stop this? There are plenty of other ways to do something terrible like this. The old saying says: "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

[@kathrynmossor9891]

His Dad was an idiot. Laws don’t make a difference .

[@freedom1496]

BS

[@rambrozak]

It’s not better laws it’s parents interacting more with their children , schools teach woke crap instead of how to handle themselves during confrontation and how to talk things out instead of acting out .

[@MoonstrollerRexrino]

Nothing here to listen too. Most journalists don't seem to realize that the bulk of their audience are far more sophisticated than they are able to speak too. We need more sophisticated and intelligent Journalists who interview more sophisticated subjects. We have AI now.

[@RUM123]

Sadly, this could have carried more weight if they had interviewed someone with experience and from a group that's not concerned with kickbacks and sweet, sweet profits.

[@deerslayer101]

figured i would let yall know y i am unsubscribing, you have let money talk for yall just by doing this 1 sided election interference get a hold on yas............

[@sandraward116]

..lets just hear the report..lets leave Democrats out of report..this is for the citizens to make decisions..

[@JodyLuvsHumanity777]

We need a common sense federal gun law passed like we did in Michigan after the horrific shooting at Oxford High School. If you're a responsible gun owner, be responsible. Keep guns 🔫 locked up at ALL TIMES if you're not carrying it on you. American's 🇺🇸 are tired of toddlers, tweens, and teens dying preventable deaths along with stolen guns hitting the streets due to irresponsible gun owners not storing their weapons properly nor responsibly. Also, parents never assume you know everything about your children and that your children know better not to mess with guns without supervision. Children by nature are generally curious. That's how things like this happen, unfortunately. Please 🙏 lock your guns up parents, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties, cousins, grandpy's, and grammy's! Far too late after loved ❤ ones are gone. So many things have changed in our world 🌎, take action now and secure ALL of your weapons then pat yourself on the back for the gift you just gave humanity every time you choose to take a few extra seconds to be a responsible gun owner 👍😁.

[@kennyalbert3692]

@@JodyLuvsHumanity777 yeah that kid was on their radar too,but was allowed to carry on.Didnt need gun laws to prevent that one,grown ups are failing across the board

[@jet4906]

The parents must be held responsible for these crimes, to the extent that they knew or should have known that something was possible.

[@patriotic80]

Laws are fine and the father and son are being charged. Justice is being served. Red flag laws are Un/constitutional and punish law abiding responsible gun owners.Georgia is a great state and our laws and law enforcement are the best around.

[@ardoinsofkaty5671]

WTF is an assault weapon?

[@kennyalbert3692]

@@ardoinsofkaty5671 they can't define it so they say semi-autos.They think AR means assault rifle.These are the fools we are dealing with

[@user-zb1xh3gy1i]

How about spending some tax payers money and put in some metal detection i know we are not Ukraine or Israel but we pay the bills of this country maybe you could help us out since you care so much about us

[@sherrycampion9119]

Assuming that parents always get these things from the schools is a bit nieve. Kids dont alwaya give those notices to their parents . Schools dont always actually do what they are suppose to and that is not the responsibility of a child to transfer info like that to parents. In a back pack. A gun glass for all parents who are buying a gun for a kid will help and any parent who does not secure their own weapons should then get prosecuted. Not a normal dad who would nwvwr guess this thing could happen to him.

[@pbear216]

I think you have alot more to learn about inner city parents............ this video feels racist to me!

[@unkulwilly]

if the rifle belongs to the father then that makes him an accessory to 1st degree murder and he should be charged

[@craigsilver2146]

Let's sue the school for not having kids protected from gun violence and the FBI for ignoring the problem.

[@waterhead1359]

IF A FATHER BUYS HIS SON A CAR AND ACCIDENTALLY KILLS SOMEONE SHOULD THE FATHER BE CHARGED ALSO

[@seanmanahan477]

@unkulwilly by your logic if a home invader breaks into a house sees a rifle takes it and kills some guys wife before looting the house the husband can be charged for murder even though he's the victim

[@seanmanahan477]

@@unkulwilly where does the insanity end

[@dangg1502]

2A ,teach gun culture in school 3:32 false! Lies

[@helodea]

The root of the problem is obvious and there are two types of postures or responses that are impeding a solution. Political Ideologues and Constitutional Absolutism. If we are thinking that Constitucional rights to possession-ownership of assault fire weaponry supersedes any possible consideration for resolution or the believe that the lack of gun control legislation for this type of weaponry are either allowing or able to stop these shootings at schools, we would be (and are) "deadly" wrong. Whenever our political leaders would be able to put aside their agendas, then and ONLY then we will be able to appraise the core AND solutions to this horrific problem. But as long as these barricades will continue to block our path to execute efficient action, then we can rest assure that America's schools will continue to be the grounds where hundreds of children's will continue to be killed. These impasse IS at the core of this problem AND which is worse, responsible for the killings of these children's right under our noses. Shame on us!!!

[@user-anc123]

Chicago

[@mrbob19561]

The cell phone given to kids at twelve years is the pandoras box that was opened years ago.. everything was fine before it plus violent mindfuck video games like war of duty

[@slammermchammer]

@@mrbob19561 get rid of violence movies too. No kids should see saw on tv, or TWD, or any action movie. And all that's just on regular TV In fact lets go ahead and get rid of any violence in books to. So no more bible teaching at all even at bome, violence in the bible makes call of duty seem like kids show, not to mention all the sex and rape. And you know what let's just keep going, we got to go ahead and get rid of any music that has any type of violent themes. Any kind really, rap, rock, country, everything in between. So we've got games,music,books, TV, radio all taken care of. Now, just teach your kid and raise them in a blank vacuum empty of anything else. Lets see how it work's out This also means not teaching your kid how to use guns of course, until they're at least 18 I'm sure that won't be an issue whatsoever for you will it

[@GloriaPitts-qp8mo]

AR15 should be outlawed. Yes, the father should be held responsible. He foolishly gave his son that rifle.

[@gregb4417]

Yeah let's blame the gun

[@stevep5669]

@@gregb4417if they were outlawed….woulda been a handgun. AR outlaw woulda not helped. And father should be held responsible as well, that would be much better than red flag laws, cannot take rights before a crime has been committed IMO, very dangerous to start that. Imma parent of 6 year old twins, FBI comes to my door about my kids posts, i would be much more concerned, but he bought a non legal gun owner a gun? 🤔🧐🤨

[@jamesgreenler8225]

What do you wana bet the father voted for Marjorie Taylor Greene ?

[@MarkFrost-zc5ne]

If the teachers would of been armed they probably could of got him before he started shooting

[@lorihamlin3604]

Ridiculous statement..if the kid didn’t have access to the gun 4 people would still be alive. The gun owner is the responsible party. I’m ashamed of GA politicians pushing lies that Dems are trying to take their guns. Total bs and political posturing.

[@craigsilver2146]

too much common sense for the angry mob

[@faithallen1169]

Teachers don't want guns in the classroom.

[@craigsilver2146]

@@faithallen1169 So, they don’t care about protecting their students then.

[@faithallen1169]

@@craigsilver2146 Teachers have enough to do, they don't want guns in the classroom.

[@kennyalbert3692]

They keep saying after each tragedy,where the person has been identified,that they couldn't proceed because no law had been broken.No law has to be broken to admit these people to determine if they are mentally well or not

[@corettejones]

Not OK, Where is His Mother???🙄🤔😔🙏

[@vinitasingh2625]

This GA governor has to do better with the guns laws .Apparently he doesn't care for people's lives period.

[@user-anc123]

Give up your rights if you want to

[@roswithahoffmann6279]

I am tired of listening to the same old excuses….

[@kimmartin6063]

Secure all schools