This is Why Drying Pasta At Home IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE

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Alex

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2 жыл бұрын

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@joeclutchless1944
@joeclutchless1944 2 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much about how to make dry pasta at home. The most important lesson is that you should go to the store and buy a quality dry pasta. Thank you Alex.
@Pixelplanet5
@Pixelplanet5 2 жыл бұрын
yea thats the real takeaway here, dried pasta is so cheap it makes no sense to make your own while fresh pasta on the other hand is not that cheap because it needs to be cooled along the entire supply chain and it also happens to be easier to make fresh pasta at home.
@HNedel
@HNedel 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the journey that’s important here, but dried pasta is definitely one thing that lends itself to industrial production with no loss in quality compared to diy methods
@RealHypocrisy
@RealHypocrisy 2 жыл бұрын
@@HNedel well said.
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 2 жыл бұрын
True, go and buy it in the shop, but do it with respect and understanding of the incredible complexity of the process and quality of the product!
@dc5131
@dc5131 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pixelplanet5 the real lesson is - certain pastas are better for certain dishes… Not fresh or dry pasta is perfect for every pasta dish.
@Adam-ve5gg
@Adam-ve5gg 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of commitment that this man is putting to making dry pasta is inspiring, keep going you will do it!
@autumnsylver
@autumnsylver 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of commitment he puts into everything he makes is impressive.
@dzhukov
@dzhukov 2 жыл бұрын
If you rewind a few episodes back you will see that it is all about perfecting his carbonara.
@playea123
@playea123 2 жыл бұрын
Watch his pizza series lol
@fullmetal1002
@fullmetal1002 2 жыл бұрын
Well duh. He's an engineer with a huge love for food. Why do you think he's always so scientific in each episode?
@Timmycoo
@Timmycoo 2 жыл бұрын
It makes for super entertaining vids because that is real life. lol. We all deal with hiccups. I love Alex's way of his workaround too. So much fun. Guy is an absolute treat to watch his journey from A to Z.
@ThisIsMyFullName
@ThisIsMyFullName 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this series exemplifies that we learn by doing, not by succeeding. Success is the conclusion of learning, experience is knowledge.
@MoonShotMan
@MoonShotMan 2 жыл бұрын
Alex's various series should be used in science classes for kids. It shows the value of testing, failure, and perseverance. Good stuff!
@jcapogna
@jcapogna 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, look into DIY PCB reflow ovens. PCB reflow ovens solve a very similar problem to pasta drying. They have to follow specific heat/time diagrams to heat and cool solder paste correctly. People make their own reflow ovens out of toaster ovens. There are Arduino projects you can look at and even several kits you can buy to convert a toaster oven into a PCB reflow oven. The kit I have comes with extra heating elements and fans, which helps to heat up faster, distribute the heat more evenly, and cool down faster if needed.
@xander1052
@xander1052 2 жыл бұрын
this is actually the most Alex solution to dried pasta I've ever seen
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 2 жыл бұрын
Those were exactly my thoughts as well! Speaking about electronics, the heat-dry diagram he was showing, remined me a lot of a PWM signal, LOL
@ivorjawa
@ivorjawa 2 жыл бұрын
In this thread: a bunch of meerkating control engineers
@tokiomitohsaka7770
@tokiomitohsaka7770 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the first thing that came to my mind as well.
@Fedorchik1536
@Fedorchik1536 2 жыл бұрын
"Now we set pasta to dry over 15 seconds at 265 degrees Celsius... wait a minute"
@JP-lz3vk
@JP-lz3vk 2 жыл бұрын
Also Alex, you need to increase the humidity as the pasta dries so that the difference between the inside and outside water content disappears.
@dilboteabaggins
@dilboteabaggins 2 жыл бұрын
Inserting a wet sponge during the rest times would probably do the trick
@kjyost
@kjyost 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Just like charcuterie. If the outside dries too quickly the inside can't get its moisture out...
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could do that with a cup of water? I know some people do that when they are growing.... Ummm.. lettuce. Yes lettuce. Nothing else. 😛 Like literally just put cup of water inside the drier. 🙂 Edit: oh right i forgot to say that you wanna put it near fan(but not too close because you dont wanna short the fan. 🙂
@CarlosBunn
@CarlosBunn 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm not understanding the problem here, but it feels like that futurama episode where they keep turning on the heater and the refigerator to find the perfect temperature If the dryer is too fast and agressive, wouldn't drying it just on the counter be better? just.. leave them be for a while? Legit question. I've done plenty of biltong just hanging them in the kitchen
@nomecognome5050
@nomecognome5050 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosBunn I guess it would just rot if you leave it like that
@40cents993
@40cents993 2 жыл бұрын
We own the same type of commercial grade pasta machine from Italy since 2 years now. We just dry them in the open atmosphere of our kitchen at drying racks. It usually takes more or less 2 days, but results are satisfiying. Greetings from Austria.
@CWeetus
@CWeetus Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I think he’s doing too much lol. Just put the pasta on a baking sheet on a cooling rack with a tented dry towel over top
@kymmoore853
@kymmoore853 Жыл бұрын
If it’s how they used to do it for (literally) thousands of years then they were obviously doing something right.
@lexpostma
@lexpostma 2 жыл бұрын
Paolo said “high temp and low humidity for drying zones, low temp high humidity for resting zones”. Shouldn’t you increase the humidity too during the resting part? Not just disable the fan and let it cool down… right?
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, that was my first reaction to his plan. My second was wondering if his dehydrator even can support proper airflow for what he wants, since it's designed to do something completely different.
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean 2 жыл бұрын
The relative humidity in the dehydrator could increase simply by cooling the air that's already in there. The absolute humidity wouldn't change much with the temp, but, depending on how much the temperature change is, the air in the machine could be relatively high humidity during the cool phase. It all depends on the absolute humidity and the temperature delta. I'm pretty sure proper air circulation is his biggest problem currently.
@jonathankidwell6889
@jonathankidwell6889 2 жыл бұрын
I think that during the resting period there will still be water vapor leaving the pasta from residual heat and the moisture level between the pasta and the drying chamber trying to reach equilibrium. The humidity wont vacate the area quickly during the resting phase. So my hypothesis is the resting phase will sort of auto regulate to a higher humidity in that small closed environment.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathankidwell6889 Unfortunately, most of the humidity leaves the chamber, because the fan is sucking the air out as part of the dehydration process. You need to have extra moisture added to the air to allow it to properly circulate and allow the outside of the pasta to moisten and get closer to equilibrium with the core. So long as it isn't wetter than the core, it'll keep drawing the moisture out of it in repeated cycles. That's why it's done the way that it is.
@rasmusrasmusson
@rasmusrasmusson 2 жыл бұрын
@@KainYusanagi How do you think that would work? E.g. should he simply open the dryer every 20 minutes and spray the pasta with a flower water spray bottle?
@Firth33300
@Firth33300 2 жыл бұрын
The papers you displayed look quite similar to the ones I studied during my phD on wood kiln drying. And the process was similar with kaolin drying for porcelain. So I'm going to take a guess and offer something that could work : - Slow rise to the necessary temperature, with a high humidity environment, to get the pasta to temperature without drying them. - Then a slow drying process, with the on/off thingy, while mainly controlling the humidity, but not moving the temperature (you lower the humidity to draw moisture out of the pasta). - And then, at least a fifth of the overall process duration in equilibrium time : temperature and humidity at the level you need them for the pasta to be at 12%, for everything to equalize. Wait for the temperature to go down if it's higher than 40°C, then open. Now, the issue is to determine what the equivalent to the Keylswerth graph is for pasta. (It's a diagram that everyone uses in wood sciences, made in the 1920s, that shows what will ultimately be the moisture content of wood according to air humidity and temperature). So that you know what your temperature goal is, and how to move the moisture content in the air. Also ... Well, you need a kiln in which you can control airflow, humidity, and temperature, and you'll probably have to run it with a time based program (because with wood, we can stick moisture content readers into the timber, but I don't think that's possible for pasta) I can probably show you who to call for a small 1cubic meter one, but that's probably upright of 60k€ so ... Good luck :D
@gevorgvanarmenie9788
@gevorgvanarmenie9788 2 жыл бұрын
What about a PCB reflow oven?
@CCNorse
@CCNorse 2 жыл бұрын
@@gevorgvanarmenie9788 seems like a good fit, except it neglects the humidity variable.
@chemech
@chemech 2 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty common mass transfer problem, where the rate of internal diffusion needs to be matched up to the rate of evaporative transport away from the surface. This comes up in wood gasification as well as wood drying, clay products drying and firing, and presumably in pharmaceuticals manufacture, just off the top of my head... As you say, you need to control for time, temperature, humidity in the atmosphere surrounding the product, and the gas/air flow rate, especially as it relates to the surface conditions on the pieces to be dried.
@chemech
@chemech 2 жыл бұрын
@@gevorgvanarmenie9788 Do those operate in the 25 - 60 C temperature range, and are they made to control water vapor condensation with the resulting potential for corrosion? Food grade materials of construction would also be a good idea...
@soulreaper359
@soulreaper359 2 жыл бұрын
@@CCNorse no really :) equipment to some kind of atomisier that disperse the water into fine droplets which then raise the air humidity. Jus a question of creativity
@paulmortimer5378
@paulmortimer5378 Жыл бұрын
Drying pasta at home is covered in depth by Marc Vetrie in his book Mastering Pasta. The easiest way is putting it in the fridge on a mesh tray for a day or two, works great. For a more effective solution he uses a small humidifier set up under a milk crate, he puts the pasta on a tray on top and covers the whole thing with a cardboard box. He sets the humidity to about 75% and keeps the heat about 23 degrees C. Takes about 3 days to dry. Thank you Alex for a fantastic explanation of the mechanics of drying pasta. Wonderful video series, keep up the great work.
@user-zw3gp2iu8j
@user-zw3gp2iu8j 11 ай бұрын
Exactement😅
@ThisSteveGuy
@ThisSteveGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I love when 'cooking shows' like this are actually teaching material science and mechanical engineering, proving that learning complex topics can be enjoyable.
@beseakos
@beseakos 2 жыл бұрын
The more I see your intro segments, the production style, the more I realize how much the production quality has improved over the years. The writing, the structure, everything about it is excellent and would genuinely pass on TV in terms of quality. A proper product of media. And also very educational. I finally see the secrets of dried pasta.
@Picollus1
@Picollus1 2 жыл бұрын
Elastic = linear stiffness with no residual deformation Plastic = non linear stiffness with residual deformation
@Onizuka2121
@Onizuka2121 2 жыл бұрын
I really like when you say : "what could possibly go wrong ?!?!!" I can already feel the next video vibe 😅 Remind me the customized portable gas stove to stir fry 🤣👍
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 2 жыл бұрын
time for an additional series just for the customized dehydrator.
@recoil53
@recoil53 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the last time Alex asked "what could possibly go wrong?" there was a fire.
@EyyLmaoo
@EyyLmaoo 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, the ability to recover from deformations is elasticity while the lack of recovery is plasticity. It seems that the elastic moduli go up with drying. The perceived hardness and softness partially depend on the elastic moduli as it determines 'stiffness'. But the main determinants of hardness/softness would it be about different structural properties. I think the more important property is that the tensile stress goes down too, leading to easier failures (cracks). Something you might want to think about is ductility and malleability. These properties would define how well the pasta deforms instead of cracking when the internal stresses are generated. Circumferential stress/strain and pressure vessel equations could give you some insight too. I've worked on cylindrical biomaterials and I'm getting flashbacks lol. And if you want to visualize air motion, look into 'smoke studies'
@t_y8274
@t_y8274 2 жыл бұрын
He has a degree in engineering, fairly sure he just wanted to joke
@jasondeblou6226
@jasondeblou6226 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you suggesting Alex to start smoking sigarets?
@prestonnguyen5982
@prestonnguyen5982 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to say his problem may be more akin to drying coatings on substrates. As the pasta dries, a thin, brittle later is being formed, but as the rest of the pasta dries (towards the center), there is strain mismatch which leads to cracking. I'd probably gander that that is why the factories have a high humidity resting time, so they can resaturate that dried outer layer (to make it elastic) to reduce/eliminate the amount of large cracking that would occur otherwise.
@mouse11011
@mouse11011 2 жыл бұрын
You need to add humidity during the resting time. Look at the science behind drying wood, which is exactly the same. After the drying period the center is wet the outside is dry. When the water evaporates the pasta shrinks and if the outside is shrinking faster then the inside it will become brittle. Since the outside dries so much faster then the core, adding moisture to the outside won't really affect the drying time of the core. Also as long as the outside isn't becoming wetter then the core it will still be drawing moisture away from the core since the log as a whole is trying to reach equilibrium. This makes the drying and more importantly the shrinking more uniform and thus less cracking.
@chemech
@chemech 2 жыл бұрын
It's a two-fold problem... You need a relatively low humidity in the drying air such that it can accept the evaporation from the surface, but you need to control the rate of evaporation to more closely match the internal rate of diffusion of the water molecules in the material being dried, which calls for a bit higher humidity. The added complication here being that if the surface dries too quickly, you get a physical - and possibly chemical - change in the material being dried, with a loss of product quality.
@chunguskhan3009
@chunguskhan3009 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is simply beautiful. The passion for food and the desire to learn is the driving force. Goes really in depth into certain subjects. My favorite channel on youtube!
@chiaralaino115
@chiaralaino115 2 жыл бұрын
As Italian I love these series! As a curious minded I love you, your consistency and your method. You remind me of a scientist! I want you to remember one phrase that I heard from another video of yours: the most important ability when you’re making anything is not having long pointy teeth to bite into success, it’s more like having a tougher skin to resist consistence repetitive failure”.
@enricopascucci614
@enricopascucci614 2 жыл бұрын
I'm italian. And this whole pasta series is so inspiring! You are achieving incredible results!
@benceszabo5515
@benceszabo5515 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Alex knows, but the definitions "plastic" and "elastic" refer more to how solid object deform to a certain amount of force. To a limit, every solid object will deform elastically (as in it will bounce back and return to its original shape) but when that limit is surpassed it will deform plastically (as in it will keep its deformed shape). Easiest example of this would be a spring.
@eddiezebeast
@eddiezebeast 2 жыл бұрын
There is also some notions of how hard materials tends to have a very little plastic deformation capability and, if deformed beyond, tends to failure (cracks). Problem that is solved through heating cycles at precise temperatures. Young modulus and heat treatments in a nutshell :D (even though the main driver for hardness here is the water content and distribution, where in metals, you look for cristaline structures)
@publiusovidius7386
@publiusovidius7386 2 жыл бұрын
I live in a desert climate (Arizona). I leave my pasta to air dry for a few days. No problems with breakage or deformity. Maybe because the drying process is so gradual.
@gevorgvanarmenie9788
@gevorgvanarmenie9788 2 жыл бұрын
Egg pasta?
@gregmuon
@gregmuon 2 жыл бұрын
@@gevorgvanarmenie9788 My nonna for sure would dry egg pasta just in the air with maybe some fans and summer heat in northern California. I guess they didn't worry about salmonella then. It was typically 100f/38C in summer so I suppose it dried pretty fast.
@zlotvorx
@zlotvorx 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregmuon I guess salmonella needs a good amount of moisture to survive. Even if it can survive the drying, it can't survive 7-10 minutes in boiling water.
@gevorgvanarmenie9788
@gevorgvanarmenie9788 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregmuon that’s fine, but Alex is trying to create semolina dry pasta which has no eggs.
@helenswan705
@helenswan705 2 жыл бұрын
Alex will be so upset when he reads this.
@MaxMining
@MaxMining 2 жыл бұрын
mans last words "What could possibly go wrong" I love all your episodes Alex, please make more! It is so informative for people like me, the budding home chef.
@Tronoz
@Tronoz 2 жыл бұрын
I'm SO EXCITED for the next episode! Really seeing you giving your all for this pasta, trial and error, it's very inspiring and fun to watch!
@unquietgrave4444
@unquietgrave4444 2 жыл бұрын
Alex slowly descending into madness during every series is my second favorite part besides the process.
@henhen7890
@henhen7890 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, that is a blower fan that center spot pulls air in and is pushed out the perimeter of the fan. You can see the grill when you shot the close up inside the dryer. Personally I think its already a good design since youre sucking air in from single point and then distributing it at the perimeter so you should not get a small hot spot. However that fan does seem to not be doing its job so maybe that should be fixed before you put in a new fan.
@PabloEdvardo
@PabloEdvardo 2 жыл бұрын
At this point he probably has already hacked it up with this own fan, but I agree -- it's clearly a blower fan that's distributing from the edges
@omermagen824
@omermagen824 2 жыл бұрын
I think also the fan might actually not be broken at all. For a normal fan the input air velocity is slower than the output, because the output is directed while the input sucks air from all around. Idk theres probably a name for this phenomena but basically you feel less wind behind a fan then in front of it even though the volume of air going in is the same going out. This blower fan is of course different as the output is directed to the perimiter but the effect could still be taking place making it appear weaker then it actually is
@jem5636
@jem5636 2 жыл бұрын
True, but considering that I think the 'good' pasta was the ones coming from the edges, (I was confused on why he thought the center was good when the first test piece was from the edge) the fan speed might still be too low. At the very least, *something* is still wrong. Although, yeah, that was pretty clearly the intake lol.
@mgntstr
@mgntstr 2 жыл бұрын
Question: Did they have humidity and temperature controls when dry pasta was invented?
@Enclave.
@Enclave. 2 жыл бұрын
Sort of. Naples had a very good climate for pasta drying naturally. So humidity and temperature controls were you figuring out what locations had the right climate for pasta drying and then to do your drying there. Is it the fine tuned tempature controls that we have now? Of course not, but it's not nothing.
@Tom-yc8jv
@Tom-yc8jv 2 жыл бұрын
TRADITOINALLY, you just leave them out to dry at room temp. NEVER had any issues drying any of my pastas on drying racks or noodle hangers, in the open without using a dehydrator. Been doing it for decades and never had the issues he is having using a machine to do it.
@SuWoopSparrow
@SuWoopSparrow 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-yc8jv Are you making egg pasta?
@Cryogenic1981
@Cryogenic1981 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother had manual control of humidity. She was moving the pasta from sunny windy porch to back shaded and humid room at first several times a day, then about once a day. She would dry the pasta in about a week.
@Astronometric
@Astronometric 2 жыл бұрын
The drier is needed because we are talking about industrial processes. In a factory there is the need to dry a huge amount of pasta in little time to satisfy the market (and you can obtain the same results every time and all year around). Traditionally pasta was left to dry naturally and most of the countries that face the Mediterranean have a climate that is naturally good for drying pasta. The same principle applies to cured meats like prosciutto.
@mdHugh
@mdHugh 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite youtubers and I feel like you are highly underappreciated on here. Love how you look at the science of cooking from the ingredients all the way down to the cooking aparatus and even engineer your own solutions. Much respect, brother.
@eugeneperry8347
@eugeneperry8347 2 жыл бұрын
I love how committed you are. It's been a pleasure to watch you dive into the science, speak with experts, and your willingness to modify your existing equipment.
@tawpgk
@tawpgk 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, I am expecting an Espressif ESP32 microcontroller solution to handle the fan speeds, temps, and power duty cycle. Lets see that engineer in you! Perhaps with hair dryers rather than the dehydrator. All controlled by a phone app over wifi. That would be awesome.
@carloseduardojaramillo7537
@carloseduardojaramillo7537 2 жыл бұрын
I just love the way you overcomplicate the home made process to achieve perfection! Can’t wait for the next video!
@LNVACVAC
@LNVACVAC 2 жыл бұрын
The technique my family uses is to cover the pasta in centimeters of very coarse salt baked in the oven. Everything hermetically sealed. Leave it 4 to 7 days.
@bogman1407
@bogman1407 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to learn more about drying pasta in salt. Can you give more details? Does the resulting pasta need rinsing or taste salty? Thanks!
@ConceptsInHealth
@ConceptsInHealth 2 жыл бұрын
This is SUCH a cool explanation of pasta drying, Alex! As always you hit the perfect balance of technical, understandable, and thoroughly entertaining! Big fan, always!!!
@michaelgoff4637
@michaelgoff4637 2 жыл бұрын
Time temp and humidity control. A pasta humidor is in order😉
@miken5088
@miken5088 2 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe do an in depth tutorial on how to do the Luciano carbonara, your last video on the carbonara was truly mesmerising and gave a lot of insight but I still don’t know the ins and outs of how to recreate it.
@Sodacake
@Sodacake 2 жыл бұрын
The steps were very straightforward. if you can't make it based on that video you are honestly hopeless. Sorry if that sounds mean.
@VinhNguyen-wk5qz
@VinhNguyen-wk5qz 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can state the problems you have so we can work this out?
@jedidiah710
@jedidiah710 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was well explained in the video
@karu6111
@karu6111 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, if you can share what you are struggling with, I’m sure ppl will help you
@miken5088
@miken5088 2 жыл бұрын
@@VinhNguyen-wk5qz yeah its really only small problems, I can make a very good carbonara. It was a great video and it helped me to improve a lot, by my comment I wasn’t trying to take anything away from the video. My problems mainly lie with heating the mixture over the double boiler and physically making the carbonara cream. If possible could one of you go through it in detail
@anthonygiaconia7880
@anthonygiaconia7880 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hooked. This is a very interesting series. I love pasta, science and learning/knowing how things work so I'm excited each time you release a new video. Thanks for these videos.
@stellarguymk
@stellarguymk 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching Alex for years now, but I'll only maybe see three videos a year. Seeing his videos is like dropping in on an old friend!
@reldeam7367
@reldeam7367 2 жыл бұрын
Throughout this whole journey, I couldn't help but think that little old Nonna isn't worried about regulating her drying and resting cycles. Unless you are trying to pump out as much pasta as possible in as short a time as possible, I'm pretty sure a cool dry place and some patience will do your pasta wonders. But please; never stop overcomplicating things you beautiful man
@angrypotato_fz
@angrypotato_fz 2 жыл бұрын
Natural sun drying and day/night cycle seem to fit some process requirements :)
@bauerbach1
@bauerbach1 2 жыл бұрын
I assume its for content sake, but I agree, wouldnt air drying be the simplest solution? those are the kinds of things that DIY have the time to allow that can make home made better than mass manufactured. Of course I assume the whole series is basically done, and we are just waiting on the editing, will be interesting if he ultimately arrives at air drying as the final revelation.
@WetDoggo
@WetDoggo 2 жыл бұрын
14:40 the fan is not blowing over the pasta, the way in which fans work is accelerating air molecules at the intake and shooting them away in a highly directed manner. This results in high speeds at the exit, which can then push the surrounding air around as well. The air at the intake is relatively static and flows in uniformly to fill the gaps, where the prior air molecules have been scooped away. In a short answer: The intake sucks at blowing, but the exit is pretty good at su... I mean blowing. I think it might even be a good thing, since blowing air over the pasta would take away the layer of water vapor around the pasta faster, which will dry out the surface faster and leading to stresses. But i might also be wrong on that one, but we'll see in the next video 😅
@tommyallen5761
@tommyallen5761 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah turn that fan around
@lishnor
@lishnor 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content. It's marvelous how you can entertain, spread curiosity and educate in those amazingly clever videos. I really can't wait for another episode of the pasta series :)
@ekehengeveld3895
@ekehengeveld3895 2 жыл бұрын
That's hardcore commitment and devotion for pasta! Fascinating facts and video!
@lordofthenotes
@lordofthenotes 2 жыл бұрын
This problem reminds me a bit of the Alton Brown "dehydrator" he used in the jerky episode of good eats. Because he didn't want the heat a residential grade dehydrator provided, he used a box fan and two furnace filters
@lordofthenotes
@lordofthenotes 2 жыл бұрын
As an addendum, my thought on a diy solution to this is twofold, a plastic tote to act as a circulation chamber, then use something like a hair dryer to provide a heated air flow, supplementing with other air mover apparatus to increase the flow rate where needed. Precise solution? Hell no. Providing the ability of heat toggle and flow rate where needed? Yep.
@amarug
@amarug 2 жыл бұрын
"Plastic" just means you end up with permanent deformations when you apply forces to the body. "Elastic" just means that it will recover its "reference state" after the externally applied forces are removed. It says nothing inherently about strain-ranges (i.e. "how much stuff actually deforms") at which these phenomena are looked at. In this case the elastic state is clearly a small strain regime, while the plastic state undergoes finite ("large") strain deformation (source: years of teaching continuum mechanics at uni)
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 2 жыл бұрын
he's moreso talking about how most common plastics today will deform then recover the deformation fairly easily but in pasta that means the hardened state that doesn't deform; in short, a joke.
@chemech
@chemech 2 жыл бұрын
@@KainYusanagi Yep, Alex is a degreed engineer, he just didn't like the career options all that much and found a way to earn his living while having more fun.
@amarug
@amarug 2 жыл бұрын
@@KainYusanagi I know, I was trying to explain why the "joke" didn't really work. "elastic" isn't making any statements about how easy something is to deform. sorry, professional-degeneration ;)
@amarug
@amarug 2 жыл бұрын
@@chemech he says in a video that he is a radio/telecommunications engineer, he probaly has no training in continuum mechanics, the same as I don't have any training in network-theory etc.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 2 жыл бұрын
@@amarug ...Have you never fiddled with an elastic band?
@TodayFreedom
@TodayFreedom 7 ай бұрын
This is one of those videos which remind me of how brilliant KZbin was when it first started. Absolutely brilliant work. Well done. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@HumbleRonin
@HumbleRonin 2 жыл бұрын
I love your approach to your videos. Especially the science behind it. Can't wait for the next episode in this series
@petouser
@petouser 2 жыл бұрын
I'm far from a chemistrist, but I was wondering if the temperature wasn't just too high. At 60 degrees, protein reacts and solidifies like an egg. It loses it's smoothness and elasticy, so it breaks easily. So taking the temp a big down may or may not help.
@monkitman
@monkitman 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the science of roasting coffee. The diagrams look similar and there is a lot of focus on the rate of rise (ROR) so lots of looking at multi line time series charts. You have to account for the steam too as once the first crack happens the heat from the large amount of steam being released changes the thermal energy inside the roaster. So you have to know beforehand when it will happen and adjust the heat and fan before it even happens or else it gets away from you.
@monkitman
@monkitman 2 жыл бұрын
Scott Rao is the authority on this, if you check out his books it's super interesting from the science end!
@chemech
@chemech 2 жыл бұрын
We keep coming up with analogous real-world applications of the mass transfer principles of drying!
@paullinski9867
@paullinski9867 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, Alex! Your passion for learning and perfection is extraordinary...and your videos are interesting and exciting. Thanks for all of the entertainment! You'll nail this dry pasta!!
@donaldlogan5310
@donaldlogan5310 2 жыл бұрын
This man makes some of the most incredible content. So educational, creative, and engaging. I can't wait till he cooks the pasta he's made.
@agm3680
@agm3680 2 жыл бұрын
You can burn a piece of paper inside the oven and see the movement of the smoke. I think this will be a good way to see the actual ventilation inside the oven.
@Namasu604
@Namasu604 2 жыл бұрын
The pasta moisture diagram you drew reminds me a lot of dry cured meats. The same problem happens when you dry meats using too low humidity, where the outside becomes overly dry and prevents the inside from drying. Could it be done with pasta? Like lowering the humidity over a longer time to make the drying even.
@Tyranix97
@Tyranix97 2 жыл бұрын
(7:20) “Off We Go!” … What a chat chat phrase. Love it!
@johanlarsson9805
@johanlarsson9805 2 жыл бұрын
3:40 Yes, yes it does. I get excited every time I hear that shaking or see that fridge!
@Superbassi0
@Superbassi0 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, I stumbled upon this series recently, loving it so far. I'm curious why you're (still) using a food dehydrator? It seems to me that the professional factories are using the high temperature > low temperature cycles to rapidly get dried pasta, so they can quickly churn it out. I'm wondering if a more simple solution for the home pasta drier can be found in leaving the pasta to dry at room temperature. Surely that would combine the drying > resting cycles into one, where the water can evaporate, but it's not happening so fast that water from the inside can't move to the outside. Wishing you the best of luck either way
@MattGDesign
@MattGDesign 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering whether this is how they used go dry pasta before the industrialisation of it
@lemongrass1191
@lemongrass1191 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, maybe try to dry pasta in different ways like sticking it in the fridge where the air is dry but cold so it would slowly dry over a longer period of time or leaving it to air dry outside to see the differences in results?
@contrariobastian4046
@contrariobastian4046 2 жыл бұрын
I am Italian and I am watching a French guy explaining me pasta science… this is beautiful work!!!!
@lechatbotte.
@lechatbotte. 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is inspiring period. I love his series, I learn so much. Truly a food connoisseur. Pavlovian response, lol that happens when a notification for your channel. I adore this he blue fridge.
@MeriBadger
@MeriBadger 2 жыл бұрын
id love to see even more extreme caterpillars but then dried properly after you figure that out... i think they would grip a lot of sauce on the outside and probably provide a potentially interesting different texture
@u.synlig
@u.synlig 2 жыл бұрын
It should provide an interesting mouth feel.
@brianbob7514
@brianbob7514 2 жыл бұрын
This is almost exactly like drying wood. You just have to do it really slowly. I bet you can do it without the pulsing if you just do it over a long period of time.
@chemech
@chemech 2 жыл бұрын
That's the traditional method, used in Italy before commercial major mass production became a thing.
@moonskyrocket
@moonskyrocket 2 жыл бұрын
@@chemech Always trust traditional over industrial.
@drewlarson65
@drewlarson65 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonskyrocket tradition blows if its unchallenged. leeches and witch burning are just two examples that come to mind
@amarug
@amarug 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how excited, stressed and pumped I am to finally find out when/how some guy in Paris manages to try a noodle
@DirkMcgee
@DirkMcgee 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex. Long time fan. This series is everything I love about your channel. Keep it up. I can’t wait to see you Frankenstein this dehydrator.
@KOSTAS5678727
@KOSTAS5678727 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried using a dehumidifier ? It is a much more gradual process than hot air
@frenkocean
@frenkocean 2 жыл бұрын
homemade drying apparatus incoming
@DanteYewToob
@DanteYewToob 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, you can buy very affordable Bluetooth plug adapters that let you turn an appliance on and off from your phone, or even set it on a timer. I use a few of these plugs in my house to run my dehumidifier, my wax melter scent thing, and my reading lamp. I can just ask Alexa to turn them on or off, but I also just leave the dehumidifier on a schedule that automatically turns it on and off when I specified it to. It’s a one time set up, and then you just let it go! Give it a try!
@squelchedotter
@squelchedotter 2 жыл бұрын
I love this series so much!
@tristanrl1940
@tristanrl1940 2 жыл бұрын
Matey - your (plausible) infinite patience absolutely boggles the mind - am both astonished and also seething with envy lol - very-much looking forward to the denouement - cheers
@RealAndySkibba
@RealAndySkibba 2 жыл бұрын
Could try using a 3d printer dehumidifier. You can dial in temp and humidity. A lot of them you can add fans to as well.
@Mrbrightright
@Mrbrightright 2 жыл бұрын
Freeze drying Is definitely the next step.
@GodsGreatestDrunkDriver
@GodsGreatestDrunkDriver 2 жыл бұрын
man ive been watching you since the beef wellington video and the production quality has never gone down, keep up the great work
@reginaldgreenwood4684
@reginaldgreenwood4684 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh what could possibly go wrong… keep at it , such inspiration… dedication.. and a subtle sarcasm and humour…. Truly amazing
@ivanleung4710
@ivanleung4710 2 жыл бұрын
This is why we need an engineer to make food videos
@Mrbrightright
@Mrbrightright 2 жыл бұрын
Try Freeze drying It! You can buy a home sized Freeze dryier for cheap.
@cygnus4232
@cygnus4232 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute mad lad... I love this crazy science experiment of a series. Can't wait to see the next episode!
@byronmelo3132
@byronmelo3132 2 жыл бұрын
The names plastic and elastic are terms of Materials Science. Plastic referring in this case to the ''soft''' state they are in, malleable, without strength; elastic must mean the elastic regimen in which they have enough strength no to break and they relief that stress by ''bending'' like a elastic band (check a deformation x stress plot of a material). really like your channel and your passion for food
@CarlosColuccci
@CarlosColuccci 2 жыл бұрын
it is crazy how involved people in the comments are with alex' project. Full explanations of what could work and how. This community is amazing
@stasz4375
@stasz4375 2 жыл бұрын
I love this series sooooo much
@mnitsang
@mnitsang 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always a pleasure to see your vids, especially as a good technologist
@marks9444
@marks9444 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, you are so good at creating a story arc. Really enjoying this journey.
@ivanpribec3353
@ivanpribec3353 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, great explanation of the diffusive theory of drying, and the associated volume changes that cause stress! The dry pasta is starting to look promising.
@NochSoEinKaddiFan
@NochSoEinKaddiFan Жыл бұрын
All the music you use is very nicely produced over the enitre sound range, expecially those thicc base tracks. And it is very well used as well, always a pleasure to experience your creations!
@azyfloof
@azyfloof 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting you to control the on off cycling with an Arduino, but I'm guessing that's gonna be next episode 😜 I'm really loving this series, and the little breakthroughs you have bring me so much joy! 💕
@MosesJrLin
@MosesJrLin 2 жыл бұрын
I love this dedication and commitment...
@losewhenyougiveup
@losewhenyougiveup 2 жыл бұрын
what could possibly go wrong!!! i like that Alex is amazing, thank you!
@ozkankayhan
@ozkankayhan 2 жыл бұрын
Alex I noticed big grains on your extruded pasta and some air bubbles. I think vacuum during dough mixing and extrusion may solve your problems since Mr. Felicetti also mentioned that they are using vacuum during mixing to remove air bubbles.
@michaeljordan215
@michaeljordan215 2 жыл бұрын
Alex. I thought the same thing about the 2 materials labels plastic and elastic and the characteristics that they apply to. I am glad I am not alone.
@russelljazzbeck
@russelljazzbeck 2 жыл бұрын
The most suspenseful KZbin series I've ever watched.
@misterkim7517
@misterkim7517 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always !!!
@DustyKorpse
@DustyKorpse 2 жыл бұрын
Love this Man and His Channel, Epic culinary adventures 🍽🙏💚
@dermax7167
@dermax7167 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. Thanks for your work
@manuelapollo7988
@manuelapollo7988 2 жыл бұрын
The intro is amazing man. Rispetto You are doing such a great service to pasta and italian culture and know how. Rispetto^2
@palladiium9696
@palladiium9696 2 жыл бұрын
What could possibly go wrong? Everything and that's exactly why i want to see the next episode of this amazing dry pasta series.
@PierJoJo47
@PierJoJo47 2 жыл бұрын
As an Italian i'm always moved when i see how kind is Alex with my culture.
@n8wolf575
@n8wolf575 2 жыл бұрын
Good that i dont drink wine ;) So many years of watching your stuff, yet everytime im still amazed. love your stuff mate. greetings from the swabian Alps
@jessicadayla
@jessicadayla 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, working fan it up! Let's see your results. Awesome work so far
@UmarHamza
@UmarHamza 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great series
@robdielemans9189
@robdielemans9189 2 жыл бұрын
Great series Alex! Bonne chance!
@rgseven6557
@rgseven6557 Жыл бұрын
This gentleman's commitment towards pasta is awesome indeed.
@3089io
@3089io 2 жыл бұрын
PID control is the secret to almost everything. This video series is set up to be a master class on so many things.
@alextsana9556
@alextsana9556 2 жыл бұрын
Alex always with he's crazy ideas...i love it!
@nervenjere
@nervenjere 2 жыл бұрын
your videos are better than most commercial tv shows.
@danielwcrompton
@danielwcrompton 2 жыл бұрын
I love you dedication of trying to get it to work in your kitchen I watched the interview in episode 3 again, the professional says: high heat low humidity for drying, followed by resting at low temperature and high humidity. I'm guessing the drying process needs the humidity to make the outside expand to preserve the plasticity while the moisture migrates from the "core" of the pasta. However, you are the expert, and I defer to you practical experience over my theoretical model.
@SuperNetSpyder
@SuperNetSpyder 2 жыл бұрын
That was the best outro (is that a word) I have ever seen. I have been a viewer for years, but gosh darn was that a finale
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