This is why Vander almost killed Silko | Arcane Season 2 Episode 5

[@nissader15]

And the sins of the fathers passed down to the daughters. Vi became vander and powder became silco, well sort of

[@jmcghane]

Basically history is repeating itself, which is why they have end the cycle for good this time.

[@laoukhtdusang7994]

Until jinx walked away and broke the cycle

[@jfys2130]

And twitch became singed

[@nobuffer101]

It’s actually nice how Jinx manages to be closer to Vander than even Vi at the end. Vi really only retains her vision of Vander’s strength and believed that’s what kept them all together. Even as she got older it’s all she really has to remember him. Just a mission to protect the family. But she has no other means than brute force. But Vander’s strength was always more than muscle and form, he knew how to be there for people and how to be reliable to them. And that’s something Jinx manages to be for Isha, on top of Silco’s estranged sympathy and compassion. Jinx might be more unstable, but she actually ends up being more emotionally mature than Vi. And that’s a fact thrust in Vi’s face when she sees how Jinx and Isha treat each other. In their despair, Vi chose to indulge in aimless fighting and drinking, and in her lowest that day she struck the person she was supposed to protect and abandoned her when she needed her most. But Jinx chooses to be sympathetic and caring to someone like her, be there for her, to make her smile and laugh, and to protect her. To create a family. Vi only realizes how she failed Powder and what she lacked when she sees Jinx and Isha. She sees what she should’ve done and what they could’ve become. It’s only after everything, when Jinx is brought to her absolute lowest, having lost everything a third time, does Vi try to be more than an older sister doing her duty, she tries to be genuinely there for Jinx than a remnant of the past long gone; but by then it’s already too late.

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

They didn’t became Vander and Silco. Vander was a leader that upheld peace between Topside and the Underground while Vi was pretty much a nobody apart from her on again off again role as an Enforcer. Silco was also a leader that fought for independence but also terrorized the Lanes while Jinx went from being a terror to an inspiration that helped unify Zaun.

[@Senyin]

They were both hurting over Felicia [Jinx & Vi's Mother]. This may have been building up over years. All three of them were mad with topside. Silco choose violence, Vander was indifferent, & we don't know Felicia's views but considering she was dead at Silco's feet, she probably sided with Silco. Silco choice of violence got Felicia killed. Silco couldn't believe it. Look at the shock on his face. He never predicted a war would cost him someone he loved. Vander couldn't believe it. Silco's plans got Felicia killed. Vander lost his head, he was blinded by rage. In that moment, all Vander could think - is Silco got Felicia killed. When he came to his senses, he grabbed Vi and Jinx and fled. Later on, Vander realized how stupid he was in that moment. It wasn't just Silco's fault, it was topside, but Vander refused to go to war again. He had to protect what he had left to love. Silco didn't get that chance. He lost everyone he loved that day. Felicia, Vander, and the girls. He lost them all because of one bad choice. He had no one to love, a man with nothing left to lose. If Vander had reached out, Silco would have known love again. Silco would have had something to loose, and wouldn't have gone to war. Instead, Silco didn't know love until Jinx. He realized- this is Felicia's daughter, Vander is dead, she just lost everyone. She lost everyone because of one bad choice, just like he did. Silco felt like he had to shield her from that fate. Then Topside wanted him to hand over Jinx. Silco could not bring himself to let Topside kill another loved one. He refused. Because in that moment, he finally realized why Vander lost his head, why Vander refused to fight. Edit: I feel like I need to explain what Indifferent means, as I am getting a lot of comments of "Vander chose violence so what you said is wrong." Indifferent: having no particular interest, neither good nor bad, neutral, unconcerned, incurious, aloof, detached, disinterested. Saying that Vander was indifferent does not mean he never chose violence nor does it make him a 'good man'. Vander can still choose violence while indifferent, it simply means that he never wanted to take a side in this fight until his hand was forced.

[@JoybuzzerX]

Vander chose violence too. The issue looks to be that it may have been a Silco plan or Silco threw the first explosive and then it all went to crap. That's why Vander basically says he's just as much to blame. But the mom lying there dead, emotions go wild. Fingers get pointed.

[@korozom]

Good write my mate ✍🏻🔥🔥🔥

[@thejanusproject32]

My gosh that is a great summary.

[@DBT1007]

there is ALWAYS at least 2 sides in every kind of movement or group. the tolerant, kind side. and the violent, aggressive side. both having the same mind. to reach the goal of that movement or that group's vision. but different methods to reach that goal. same happen in real life in EVERY INDEPENDENCE MOVEMENTS. like in Indonesia, there are some ppl who wants to get independence through the diplomacy acts with Netherlands. but there are some ppl who wants to quickly get the independence. by guerilla war. in the end, both contributed to indonesia's independence. those who died in independence war, declared as heroes. national heroes. and those that died that went thru the diplomacy route, also declared as national heroes.

[@zarlashtkhan3740]

Silco chose the future, a free country, thousands dead today that would justify the billions saved tomorrow from the current fate, and the ability to self determinate Vander chose the present, minimise the losses today and inch towards a possible better future, he even says that when he gives himself up, 1 life to save a thousands is worth it. Its the basic question every world leader/government that faces a threat has to ask themselves. Theres basically no right or wrong here, just decisions

[@dapiunhappy7909]

In the alternate reality where Ekko and Heimerdinger travelled to, I think Silco actually found the letter. I think after Vi's death, Silco felt kinda bad or something and either reached out to Vander or went back and found the letter. Which lead the two of them to forgive each other and create their Nation of Zaun. Honestly the most depressing episode in the series in my opinion because it shows what could have been.

[@bomnitoperro9422]

In life its always what could have been the thing that hurts the most

[@lunatic-k5209]

The episode is about what could have been and what would have be, a pass that never happened and future that seem unavoidable

[@gregchezick7757]

With the job going so bad and the kids being caught by the enforcers at the scene, there wasn't any reason for there to be an enforcer presence in the undercity searching for the kids. That presence in the original timeline is what caused Silco to put up his timetables of his plans, it would have been in that increased time that he would have found the letter and given that he all of them were grieving VI's death to some extent it was easy for SIlco to forgive Vander. It is kind of a screwed up thing to say but Vi's death was necessary for the progress within Zaun.

[@roshinmathew4808]

Also singed didn't great shimmer. I feel like that's most important

[@BRAZILIAN_MIKU]

​​@@roshinmathew4808he most likely did but since silco stopped doing crime, shimmer was never commercialised, since that wasn't singed's plan, only to use shimmer to try and find a cure

[@fanofmediastuff269]

Break the cycle, find the power to forgive

[@Thewhiteandorange]

this. such a simply yet powerful sentiment.

[@ifeelsane]

Tell that to Ellie from tlou xd The girl went nuts

[@fanofmediastuff269]

@ the masks of man hides the nature and feelings of another

[@itsmemogul889]

It may not be fair to forgive but it sure is better than killing each other.

[@truthseeker7815]

@@ifeelsane, not the best example

[@ASquared544]

Worst part is, Ekko knows there’s no “might’ve” to it. If Silco found it, everything *would* have been different.

[@lorakaytjow6376]

Yeah.. it was all thanks to this letter xdd

[@lunariscorvus2896]

Probably not just the letter, the death of Vi in the alternate univers is probably what made silco go back to vander too letting them make up.

[@alwandemthethwa7594]

​@lunariscorvus2896 yeah the death of their god-daughter probably changed things, just like Vander sorta being alive brought jinx and violet back together

[@lunariscorvus2896]

@@alwandemthethwa7594 yeeeees exactly!

[@bradwhite5884]

Maybe there's another reality where all of them are alive, like their birth mother, birth father and such, just think about that tbh

[@theRedK337]

If Silco had found that letter then maybe all that pain, grief, and suffering could have been avoided. Not just for Vi and Jinx but for all of Zaun.

[@keroro407]

I think the Silco in the world where Hextech never existed that Ekko visited, found the letter, and later reconcile with Vander.

[@viridianacortes9642]

@@keroro407maybe he found it around the same time Vi passed away in that universe. Maybe since he couldn’t find a way to trap Vander, he decided to go back to their old hideout to see if he could fine something useful. That’s where he found the letter.

[@PsypherWolf]

@@viridianacortes9642 I rather doubt it because by that time, regular Silco was already a notable overlord. I think they made peace well before Vi's death, likely because of the letter.

[@papatolsreact3202]

If Silco found that latter we was not gonna have the arcane series dude

[@wolfhowl983]

Zaun/The lanes/Undercity would still be suffering. It might just be the same suffering as under Vander. :/

[@nobuffer101]

I like that Vander uses, “Blisters and bedrock”, because it implies that even though he was seeking to make amends with Silco, he was also intent on following Silco again, to build the nation of Zaun and create a better future for Powder and Vi so Felicia’s death wouldn’t be in vain. He understood Silco’s suicidal persistence to keep the fight going and wanted to fight for him again. But after waiting so long at that bar it dulled his edge as he continued to raise the four kids until he had no choice but to make a deal with Piltover for “peace”. But for a time, Vander was fully intent on donning the gloves once more.

[@christianvirtudazo3106]

Damn

[@christianvirtudazo3106]

Vander really was gonna join the fight if all it takes was Silco come out and ask for his help

[@christianvirtudazo3106]

Ride or Die homie

[@josiah566]

It took your comment to help me remember that "blisters and bedrock" is a HUGE reference to them growing up in the toxic mines Piltover made them work in - then referenced in S1 when Silco reminds the Chembarons where it all started (in the mines), and then in the watercolor of them as kids in mining gear. Insane writing, hinting at a history that doesn't need explaining.

[@alessandrobonati7815]

She really did a perfect silco's impression 10/10

[@my2randomcents]

To me its clear that after Felicia died Vander stopped the "hostile" approach to making Zaun, because loosing a loved one shook his resolution, something that plunged Silco into doubling down on his' as the Topside already took his two best friends so it would not take his dream away. Silko became an extremist and Vander tried to stop him"for the future of hus daughters"

[@zarlashtkhan3740]

Felicia also tasked them both with achieving Zaun for her children, Silco might have doubled down to make sure her sacrifice was not in vain, in his mind. I don't think extremist is the right word though, he was fighting for independence.

[@HisameArtwork]

@@zarlashtkhan3740 he turned his ppl into junkies and employed child slavery...I'd say this isn't moderate behavior by EU human rights standards. dunno where you live...in usa I hear it's legal for kids to buy guns and get employed as farm hands picking corn. we have human trafficking in east Europe too but it's illegal.

[@zarlashtkhan3740]

@@HisameArtwork um I dont think EU human rights standards matter much in Runeterra 😄but I'm not talking about the outcome of his actions, but his initial character motivations. If you have familiarity with military warfare this is common idea held in transitional stages of countries - the end justifies the means and this seems like a driver for Silco - even after he gains control he is continously thinking and moving towards an idea of a free Zaun, until they ask for Jinx, and he never feels accomplished even though he is easily the most dangerous man in Zaun. His motivation is not just taking control of the lanes. That doesn't mean I'm saying what he ended up doing was right. But also Vander, though a good guy, did not achieve a much better situation for his people. Child slavery, creating a drug dependency and human trafficking are illegal all over the world. But also, in countries that deal with occupational or external threats...this is a common possible stage they end up in (though its a little exaggerated because its a show but this contributes to the good storytelling) (I live in a country where 100 people were killed today by police forces for protesting a corrupt government :) so I guess you could say I relate)

[@Summyer]

Question for Act 2-3.. I wonder how zaun changed in the alternate timeline? When Vi died, did Vander choose to fight with Silco and destroy Piltover?

[@zarlashtkhan3740]

@Summyer they mention they still tried to kill each other, but in the alternate universe Silco probably found the letter Vander left him and they forgave each other after that.

[@AlexanderPierce-i6j]

jinx has silco's hairstyle. such a fuckin daddy's girl

[@t00sa]

I think Jinx's hairstyle resembles her mother's more (which Silco probably styled). The braids + the long fringe on the right side.

[@disguisedcentennial835]

@@t00sa nah she mirrors her father figure. We see this in the alternate timeline: she has Vander’s hairstyle.

[@OutOfPocket-h9e]

"Killing is a cycle, one that started long before Vander and me, and one that will continue long after the two of you, I think the cycle only ends when one of you finds the will the walk away"

[@LordVerdo]

They needed a little Vinland Saga wisdom, “become a true warrior. I have no enemies.”

[@Mustard0981]

Ngl I thought this'd be a meme video where it went from the scene of Silco saying he's bozo 1 cutting straight to the scene where Vander is choking him underwater

[@vigneshmohan1464]

Arcane is a piece of art …truly master class

[@evil_forestman]

It's a well made show indeed which is very rare. There are just too much shits on the screen these days

[@truthseeker7815]

And coming from such a game…

[@nytmaupsb10]

when silco said to powder "we will show them all" i had to think of the moment he and vender promised to take care of the children .. damn

[@whtwang]

Season 2 was sorely missing more backstory for the fallout between Silco & Vander. Wish they focused on the more intimate relationships/conflicts (ex. Piltover & Zaun, Vi & Jinx, Silco & Vander) that were the heart of Season 1, rather than side stories/characters like Black Rose, Warwick, or even Isha. Thanks for this simple but powerful edit! Silco's words to Powder perfectly sync with the quieting music at 1:08.

[@MILZ414]

I agree wholeheartedly

[@Tilnaor]

I agree, more or less. While the Black Rose seems unnecesary for the storyline it's only in the way of the character arc. However if we see the bigger picture, Ambessa's army with Viktor was overpowered. Piltover never had a chance without Mel's magic. To introduce that in a pure human diplomatic person, needed a strong dramaturgical reasoning. Warvick maybe could have been left out maybe not (yet definitely added to the world building and the dramatic moments). And Isha... Isha's faith was the main reason of the Jinx's disappointment in the world and herself.

[@josiah566]

@@Tilnaor Isha was kind of needed. She was to Jinx what Jinx was to Silco, and what both girls were to Vander - someone to protect, and someone to center and focus their love. Edit: in fact I wonder whether it was Isha willingly sacrificing herself that helped Jinx to realise she could end the cycle? Silco died by semi-accident. Felicia died by accident. Vander died by accident, but for at least Silco and Vander JInx felt responsible for those accidents. Isha willingly made the sacrifice play - no accident from Jinx killed her. It might've been the first time JInx realized that not all pain and suffering and death around her is her fault, that it can happen even though she gives everything. So she forgives herself, she acknowledges that someone can love after someone can die, she realizes Vi loves her even though Jinx had "died" to her, and feels absolved to walk away.

[@Yoh4Lyfe]

I understand how many people would want more focus on back story tied to season 1, which heavily focuses on Jinx and Vi. However, I love how season 2 closes the circle of Jayce and Viktor's story, explores "What Could Have Been," and fulfills Ekko's story and nickname

[@markusbarten455]

The two main themes of Arcane are "What could've been" and "Forgiveness". Most of the problems of season 1 came from the fact that Silco and Vander couldn't forgive each other, losing the chance to reform Zaun peacefully and instead turning it into a crime ridden drug infested den. And the second season was dominated by Piltover punishing the entirety of Zaun for Jinx crime and only saved when they gave up on the Vendetta to fight Nox which only got a in way because the Piltovers let them in as hired help.

[@Free2BM3]

I thought the major theme of the show was among the lines of “Progress vs Stagnation.” Piltover is leagues ahead of the Undercity, but society’s higher ups care only about progressing Piltover further. Meanwhile, the Undercity yearns for independence and to progress too, but Piltover refuses until the very moment that Jinx blows up the council (an act of violence because of the stagnation that ironically prevents progress). But Jinx herself is a personification of how poisonous stagnation can be. She remains in the Undercity haunted by the people of her past as she creates mayhem and violence to appease her rebellious father-figure. Meanwhile, Vi wants to believe she’s trapped in the stagnation of her peers, but even after her imprisonment, she yearns to grow. She sees an opportunity to work alongside Piltover so that the Undercity could be safe and not continue to be a symbol of fear. Even Ekko’s tree is a symbol of how nothing grand like that could progress naturally in a society like the Undercity. And yet, this tree defies all odds, surprising even a centuries old scientist, who happens to be someone that understands the dangers of over-progression and has been removed from Piltover’s council because of it. While “What could’ve been” is an important question and theme introduced in this series, it’s not a theme that finds it’s way into every inch of the story. But progress or stagnation is a part of everything. Even the Black Rose plotline relates to this. The Black Rose wants to prevent the progression of societies in Terrarune that would seek to destroy mages, but Ambessa seeks progress through Piltover so amass a weapon capable of defeating mages. Ironically, Ambessa must also quell the magic within Mel by allowing for stagnation and ignorance to shield her from her destiny. So the Black Rose forces Mel to progress beyond the restraints placed by Ambessa and become someone that can relate to the mages and supersede her mother. The city’s names themselves speak to this theme, too. Piltover’s greatest weakness is an overabundance of pride & progress that would inevitably lead to it’s downfall, where as the Undercity is underdeveloped and is in a perpetual state of stagnation. Even the drug “shimmer” makes me think of how polluted, stagnate water on pavement bends light. Not saying you didn’t make a good point. I just overanalyze shows and movies and I wanted to share my perspective in case it shines a different light on the show.

[@griffinbrown2870]

“War does not determine who is right. It only determines who is left.” Bertrand Russel 🌹

[@saiaky]

"Humanity, our very essence, is inescapable. Our emotions, rage, compassion, hate. Two sides of the same coin, intractably bound. That which inspires us to our greatest good is also the cause of our greatest evil.”

[@1UniversePrincess]

Wow I did not notice that at the end Sevika was being carried but makes sense, since that wound would’ve been fresh.

[@theanimekid7839]

So we all know that Vander is Vi and Silco is Jinx, but did anyone notice that Ekko was Felicia? Both were the middle ground of the two sides and used both tactics to make it safer for their loved ones(Felicia was willing to fight and build a safe haven but died before she got the chance/Ekko and the Firelights fight against gangs daily but created the Underground for the abandoned children).

[@bwendure94]

I think Vi's and Jinx's Felicia is Vander. Vander was someone both Vi and Jinx loved, and Jinx got him killed, causing a rift between Vi and Jinx. This parallels with Vander and Silco loving Felicia and Silco getting her killed

[@EyeBeZombie]

This edit is so good makes me wish it was actually in the show

[@thesiblingscrew2323]

Vander and silco 2 brothers Went from helping each other And working together to being enemies only to die tragic deaths😔

[@mcrain1283]

I love how vander in season 1 says we don't give in our own and in season 2 sevika says the same thing to smeech, glorious character evolution!

[@EthernousNatsuDragneel]

This show was on another level seriously

[@MuhammadIrfan-oe5su]

My headcanon is that after the accident that took Vi's life, Jinx and the boys were arrested and the only way that Vander could have saved them is if he and Silco finally made amends and brought their ideal Zaun to fruition without bloodshed with Piltover. Silco sharing the grief with Vander after he failed to protect one of Felicia's daughter might have made him realise this as well and thus pushed them both to the road of forgiveness and progress.

[@lovebirde]

Okay this is actually one of the first things making sense to me! Thank you!

[@CJusticeHappen21]

I think the character that reveals why Silco did what he did was actually Huck, the glasses fellow who Vander stood up for, got hooked on shimmer, and the was healed/evolved by Victor. Silco talks about when Vander nearly drowned him, it was the last time he felt powerless. I think that what happened is that Silco was afraid, and in his fear he acted violently. We know him to be a slight and more thoughtful guy, coming face to face with the Enforcers of Piltover. Like Huck says, he wanted to feel what it's like to be strong.

[@guccipucci3941]

In a way I’d say you’re not wrong but most importantly as he said himself he realized while being drowned that „to defeat a superior enemy you must stop at nothing, you must become what they fear.“ He realized when fighting Vander, a (physically) superior adversary (just like the Topsiders) had to be defeated by any means necessary even in ways that evoke fear (in vanders case a knife, in Piltovers case Fishbones-Hextech/Chemtech). From his perspective he did not really chose to do what he does to feel powerful but rather to defeat a (numerically/technologically) superior enemy like the Piltover occupation. He essentially became a Guerilla fighting a state that uses their population as cheap, disposable Labour, uses it as the location for the majority of industry as to not pollute their own neighborhoods and essentially runs an Apartheidstate with Zaunites as second class citizens. In America you’d call him a Terrorist but in most parts of the world he would be considered a freedom fighter

[@ОлегЕршов-м3с]

Great editing, it's simple, yes, but it enhances the message and emotions of the scenes.

[@lllazerfoxgaming6897]

Love the detail of the hair on younger Silco. Looks like Jinx, but a different angle. Nice touch.

[@LISA.WANG.]

Hearing this borderline victorious music with ep 3 aftermath is so odd but beautiful; Silco weaving himself back in this family again

[@RazSofer-xh3qs]

When Vander said, “When she died, I lost my head”, I think that was his inner Warwick came out. In a way, his own inner beast created Silco, which I think he knew what he was when they were talking in the factory together alone

[@Thewhiteandorange]

this is a great edit.

[@florianmattern6824]

Season 2 broke me on so many levels... I cried for most of the last 3 episodes 😭

[@NJVArtimations]

Even Vander makes mistakes in controlling his anger... meanwhile people are going all over Vi for getting mad at Powder for accidentally killing their Whole Family

[@AstroAbrar-gv8gl]

Its such a great show...it was worth the wait..

[@gameraider100]

Theorists: Vander may have tried killing Silco due to differences in how to lead in revolting against Piltover! Or maybe Vander wanted power and that's where Silco got his power knowledge from! Or maybe Silco wanted power and Vander was afraid! Vander: Nah I tried killing him because of a girl

[@elisonholace4033]

The two don't gotta be mutually exclusive. There's a chance he went along with Silvo's plan despite not being fully on board, instead wanting to try a more peaceful solution, and Felicia dying was just the tipping point. Maybe Silco wanted to keep doing things his way in a "or else her death meant nothing" kinda way while Vander saw it as him being dangerous.

[@zarlashtkhan3740]

@@elisonholace4033 this - Silco is clearly a leader and maybe they had a conversation, found themselves at odds and Vander realized it was thousands of people at stake (and clearly he was right as we see once Silco takes control)

[@elisonholace4033]

@@zarlashtkhan3740 This is why I agree with what was said in another video, Zaun never would've seen true independence under either's leadership. Silco is to much of a radical who, while fighting for it, would get to many people killed in the quest for freedom. Vander meanwhile just wants things to be as peaceful as the situation allows to keep people safe, even if it means stopping the fight for Zaun.

[@zarlashtkhan3740]

​@@elisonholace4033 I agree, while both their intentions were good ultimately the road to hell is paved with good intentions. the start of Arcane pretty much shows us Vanders leadership, theres a huge class difference, there is anger resentment and a desire for better life and Piltover seems more like an occupational force - while under Silco the undercity is more so dangerous and a threat its good storytelling because this is actually a very common outcome in real life as well with countries that face foreign involvement or occupational forces.

[@sofialaya596]

​@@elisonholace4033 eko and sevika for the win!

[@alfredoaguilar6561]

One decided to continue in order to avenge them the other just to stop this madness. They fought in the heat of the moment as they were on fight mode.

[@snowygirl]

Vi in grief -> hit Powder and called her by her biggest fear Vander in grief -> tried to kill Silco yea....

[@Bratwurstbraeter]

Oh, that's why he took care of Powder 😢

[@PebblesPlays]

It's funny how we find out in an alternate dimension that Vi was the real Jinx in the story.

[@Akiraspin]

We now know just exactly how much Silco identified with Powder that night. He feels extremely guilty over Felicia's death. He was betrayed in an even more horrific way by Vander than what Vi did to Powder. And the words he's been playing in his head all these years was the words she said to them when she told them both she was pregnant; *"Failure is not an option."*

[@onEmEmbErstudios]

What I love most about the show is everyone had common sense and acted like real human

[@Dasalli100]

dammit everytime I recover from this i get reccomended another one of these videos and start crying again. I hate you….. but this was beautiful

[@Stroodle_dus_Doodles]

My chest actually hurts right now. The tears aren’t falling, but the last pillar holding up my mental stability is.

[@emremat33]

1:17 "Fallen Angel" - Alexandre Cabanel

[@girlfromthecenteroftheuniv6045]

Beautiful edit omg ❤️ Your username😭❤️

[@soph.studios21]

Brothers fight for Zaun but never knew what was it like to raise a child on their own. Beautiful story and this was a falling action. Amazing. No words

[@EternallApprentace]

Crazy looking back to see Sevika was right there by Silko's side, when Powder was only a child

[@ayeshaimranx]

This edit is well made❤

[@optimisticnihilist3417]

I still don't get why Silco was willing to kill Vi and piwder, back when he kidnapped Vander. That would be like spitting on the memory of the woman he got killed.

[@kanyerahming]

Because the writers didn’t plan it

[@szasza8583]

Anyone saw the mistake in season 1? Sevika lost its left arm, yet when she was held by the bald big guy (the one that lost its jaw...3 times I think) her left arm is fine.

[@tariyamori]

Her left arm wasn't fine, i think. It looks like it was heavily burnt by the explosion and was probably amputated

[@jesientosuperporaroku]

​@@tariyamori yes

[@nik01zzxx121]

​@@tariyamoriin the scene of the explosion, when powder is floating, you can see how the arm dissapear and nothing left, desintegrating basically

[@Henrikstinker]

@@nik01zzxx121If you watch the scene back of them finding Powder, her arm does look black and burnt. So I imagine it wasn't the plan for it to be completely disintegrated, but they thought it looked great. Her with the burnt arm would have likely been modeled before making the explosion VFX, and it might've been too late to change it.

[@raflamar4146]

Maybe the Silco of the other world in S2E7 read the letter, and made amends with Vander? Getting together after Vi's death while raiding Jayce's lab

[@N4xVengeance]

I love how Powder, no Jinx, this is the moment Jinx was born, gave the "the fallen angel" painting aka Lucifer eye.

[@dhruvmistry6623]

They both took care of one daughter in their own ways. Full filling mothers wish.

[@ZL33PY]

This is so unserious but Silco from the other universe looks adorable in that scene and I can't get over it

[@OkIPullUp.]

Love is powerful

[@summer3279]

That's why there's a saying, "Villains are made and not born."

[@Alez5860]

This is so good!!!

[@sleeplessotaku4688]

Power of Words. pale in comparison to the results of violence. thanks arcane

[@deydeylecochon7147]

OH ! SILKO FOUND THE LETTER IN THE OTHER TIMELINE OH MY GOD FORTICHE

[@midnightchaos2472]

I love this but the same time why do you have to make me cry again?

[@artemise707]

The feeling I had was that that time going over the bridge (which Vander himself says he led the people over the bridge) after Felicia died, Vander realized in that moment that it wasn't worth getting people killed or hurt for. He wasn't opposed to violence originally, he was known for it all across the underground, he hated the enforcers too, he was angry, he saw that same need to fight that he had in Vi. But we saw on the bridge after Felicia died and when Vi and Powder came to him that he realized the weight of what had happened, and he felt like all that loss was his fault. That was the moment he decided he wasn't going to give up or sacrifice the people of the underground to get the nation of Zaun anymore. But I don't think Silco came to that same conclusion. I think maybe even after Felicia's death, after Vander had to take in her kids Silco probably kept pushing to go back over the bridge. Silco probably wanted to keep fighting, to go to war with topside. But Vander was so focused on the loss of Felicia, of having to take in her kids, and the unwillingness to lose more people that Silcos push to continue fighting as they had been felt like he didn't care about Felicia or anyone else's death, it was a necessary loss for the cause, he was willing to sacrifice people. Before Vander dies when he's talking with Silco he says "This isn't the way". At some point after crossing the bridge Vander and Silco completely diverged on what they felt was right and necessary to get the Nation of Zaun. And if Silco was showing he was okay sacrificing the very people of Zaun, that may have made him look dangerous. And especially in a time when Vander was grieving the loss of Felicia, who died because of the push to fight topside, that could be the catalyst of Vander losing his head. Vander felt a new weight of responsibility for every life in the lanes, and Silco felt like lost lives were a part of the end goal. They came out of it with conflicting views on progress and death.

[@truthseeker7815]

0:35 Dude was absolutely massacred

[@Pablo-mf3je]

My thought IS that, because in the other universe Vi had died, Silco did found the letter because Vi and Powder were her "daughters" to. So, because of Vi death he felt sad for himself but also Vander because he wasn't there to comfort him. Them, to remember good old times with Vander and forget the pain of losing Vi he might have found the letter and that gave him they push he needed to make peace and forgive him. But hey, it's just a theory, a film theory

[@D_McGeezacks]

From the thumbnail I thought it'd be because he tried to claim the title of Bozo One

[@bigjalapeno6307]

This series turned me into a big League of legends fan I simply cannot get enough. I downloaded all the LOL apps on my phone bc I don’t got a PC. Also Skyrim online is the closest thing to LOL for me 😅😢

[@LMNTRON]

Canonically, there’s a universe out there where Silco found that letter. 😢

[@breaddboy]

You know I have a big issue with this. Because silco was totally prepared to kill Vi and Jinx. Even brandishing a knife before jinx hugs him. That's his friend's kid. A woman he went to war with and he'd gut them?

[@redcapmilk]

I don’t know, it sounds right to me. I mean, jinx changed and that’s her sister. How would it be any different from silco and those relationships.

[@breaddboy]

@@redcapmilk the idffernce is that vi and jinx were adults when they tried to kill eatchother. i mean they wernt able to anyway. but silco willing to kill his best firends kids? nah thats weird

[@patrickchrabol2120]

What could have been was shown in the alternate timeline. Silco must have found the letter in this timeline

[@SenturosGaviannus]

this show was fucking raw. He held back 0 of its punches. I dare say this is the best animated show to date. And i have never played the game or give 2 fucks to try.

[@shorty2222]

it's a great show but not the best animated show to date but it could be the best animated show you've watched to date

[@lovebirde]

Slow down and drag your finger through Silco’s face when he throws the Molotov. I was trying to make sure he was actually throwing it (accurate) and discovered a graffiti monkey face flash showing that him and Jinx are the same. Vander and Silco both dealt with their anger and subsequent grief differently. Jinx and Silco said fuck it to everyone and anyone they ever cared for who anbandoned them and Vander and Vi became protectors. When Jinx came into Silco’s life, she took over the malotov that he put down and Vi picked up the gauntlets that Vander put away, too. Vi and Jinx needed to break the cycle by putting them down without passing them on to others.

[@menib7574]

The thumbnail makes it seem like hid tried to kill him over a bowl of cereal

[@pl4gu3gaming61]

If he found it we might have seen the alternate reality where heimer and ekko found themselves in

[@jutanboy]

It can still be avoided. Ekko just needs to ult a couple of million times.

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

We SEE what could have been in episode 7. They could have saved... everyone.

[@DrakariZargon]

Honestly people who think Vander and Silco are or could be a couple never had male friends and too much time in their lives.

[@anastasis-cm5hw]

Same goes for people who think they HAD to have had feelings for Felicia and male/female friendships. Neither of them show any jealousy when she says she's pregnant, just caring. They were all bros together

[@skipskip342]

If you think about it, Silco also helped raise the girls

[@markflores8619]

Wow! Never guessed that Vander wanted to be "Bozo 1" that much..

[@minkinns8438]

“When she died, I lost my head. I told myself what I did to you was for the greater good-that you deserved it… But the dirt was on both our hands.” Caitlyn and Jinx ?

[@noelchristianmacasling424]

Maybe in the alternate universe where Heimer and Ekko was trapped for a while, Silco found his letter thats why he forgave vander.(ep 7 of arcane)

[@volter6471]

What could have been...

[@pauleracleous6705]

I know they said this in the show but if that letter was sent it mightve changed how things ended

[@Ninjakitty506]

Silco was reunited with Powder

[@ravenclaw1848]

I wonder what the significance is of silcos Jacket being inside of vender’s like that 👀

[@antoninaforyt6928]

Are we going to talk about the fact the jackets are a reference to brokeblack mountain? ... No? Okay...

[@papaf7558]

We know how they mother die but Vander was clearly older when he adopt the two girl.

[@mysabic8096]

Can someone explain to me why the hell did Silco want to kill Vi and Powder when they were little if he knew THEY WERE FELICIA'S KIDS??

[@music0cool]

Yeah! Silco wanted everyone to turn against Vander and rally around him as Zauns leader and his violent approach instead, so he wanted everyone think that Vander took the kids and abandoned everyone in Zaun, so the kids had to disappear too. Cuz it wouldnt make sense if Vander "abandoned Zaun for his kids" but the kids were still there.

[@BriarPatchNyra]

No amount of retconning will change that Silco was right. Vander's pacifism was not sustainable. Piltover was killing Zaun and something had to be done, Silco almost won had Jinx not shot him.

[@АннаКузнецова-ъ6ф2ш]

Hm…but to whom? At that moment, there was no one to take revenge except Piltover.

[@aljon5947]

they skimmed through this part way too fast, it was confusing to follow.

[@sivastarlord]

Even if he knew vi alive i think he won't kill her for nothing

[@brunorios8087]

Where is that scene of silco throwing the molotov from?

[@lolidontevenplaylol]

Episode 5, 17:05 Warwick’s evil memories

[@doornumb]

I wish they showed how Jinx found that place

[@almero8461]

How did you get thoses frames?

[@doliwaq]

Can someone explain how this letter could change everything?

[@sansanthecat]

at first, i thought vander gonna be mundo because Warwick seem to irrelevant. mundo swole, purple, and gone crazy

[@Angela-ur5yf]

I don't quite understand what Silco did? Can someone explain ? What becouse he threw a burning bottle at them ? I don't get it

[@LordVerdo]

Silco wanted to take a fight to Piltover because Zaun wasn’t recognized as a nation and had no influence in government while being treated like garbage.

[@metallichurch]

Doesn't track. Doesn't fit with Silco that we see in Season 1 Ep 1-3. Vander tries to apologize and is told "You will die for the cause, but you won't fight for it". This scene is trash.

[@Akizas28]

that's the most stretched out explanation this entire plotline was abandoned (like the silco in his entirety in this season) and even IF this explanation is the objective truth, that's the most unconvincing reason for trying to kill yout best friend, accounting for the fact that vander himself was present and actively beat up peacekeepers without complaining. They just straight up cut conclusion for all of this

[@Addahandle-q6t]

As if that letter would’ve changed anything pffff

[@lay_2258]

This doesn’t make sense Silco stabbed Vander while he was drowning him, when we see Vander finding Vi and Pow he’s not injured This will always feel like a continuity issue to me