THIS is WHY We Don't Re-Use OLD Framing Lumber.. Ep. 5

[@michaelmartin5995]

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[@ziejekz2290]

Yeah, so true. Love your comment. As people living in those stick houses are until first high wind, then you'd see. It's cheap and holds its own weight but that's it.

[@RA1-1]

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[@MrChazzahc]

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[@semperfi5861]

I'm in Minnesota and as a framer we glue floor sheeting, stair threads/risers, the bottom of every hanger, and lastly all interior/exterior bottom plates. A lot of people don't realize that the interior walls will squeak in time so we glue them down. Same thing with exterior walls. This also helps block the wind or draft's from entering the house in the winter. -30°/-50° isn't a good time when your house is drafty, lol. I've never heard of or seen anyone glue LVL's together or stud packs. Thanks for the video, guys. 👍🇺🇸😊

[@larryroyovitz7829]

I'm in Canada and I think northern climates like ours call for glue in situations where the south might not need them. But amen to stopping the squeak.

[@kalijasin]

@@larryroyovitz7829 That is true. I live in the Pacific Northwest. Just two hours outside of Vancouver, B.C. We get heavy winds and snow load here.

[@larryroyovitz7829]

@@kalijasin Nice. I'm in Manitoba. Not so bad for wind, but bad for low temps and heavy snow loads.

[@onetwothree4148]

Glue the "bottom of every hanger"? Never heard of that.

[@rabie4x4]

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[@mickeymacon1281]

It's great that you stop and explain what is going on. It's also awesome that you show the headaches and problems you overcome. Thanks!

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[@duenge]

Stud Pack episode with my morning coffee....Gonna be a good day!....

[@godsbong]

Add a quick smoke and I'm right there with ya.

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[@RetiredSignDude]

It's nice you have to keep going to the store and show it. Adds an extra touch of reality to the show- most of us spend a lot of time going back for the odd bolt or board.

[@TheBBBB0B]

Thank you for taking the time to give a clear reasoned explanation of the process. Jordan has a great teacher...so do we.

[@tonybalz2726]

What I like about your show is that you do projects like I would do. They don't always go perfect like they do on other DYI progams, and you show us how to make corrections to the problems that may come up.

[@TheFiremonkeyman]

very quickly one of my favorite home reno channels. I know I like to keep old framing lumber around for non-critical uses, such as building garage workbenches. I definitely don't want to reuse old framing lumber for new framing for the reasons you showed!

[@scottwhitney9913]

Man daddy stud pack has so much knowledge on this sort stuff. I'm glad You guys started making this video. One of my favorite channels on you tube.

[@StudPack]

Much appreciated Scott 👍💪

[@samvoyles2096]

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[@mariocosta4364]

Great to see your thinking process and great explanations. Thanks, a plumber from Scotland, UK.

[@xXAnchormonXx]

I like how you’re able to combine older fastening methods with new ones. There are many seasoned framers who won’t touch structural screws, the amount of time they can save makes it a no brainer.

[@Texpete88]

I agree with not reusing old lumber for framing, there’s definitely some other uses for it in less critical applications especially since the price of lumber is through the roof now.

[@nwolinsP]

I reused a bunch of lumber. It was the old size slightly bigger and twice as heavy. I probably would use it for a supporting wall or anything structural important, but it holds screws just fine and I do think the wallboard will fall off. This saved me money and getting rid of the old wood. Also it was straight. BTW. I do not think there is a straight piece of lumber in my local box store.

[@carson911]

Love that you go through the specifics even down to the importance of following the nailing schedules as required by the manufacturer. Great job man.

[@465maltbie]

It really shows your experience with the setting of that beam. Thanks for sharing. Charles

[@PumpkinDog33]

I loved the end of this series and now I've wondered my way back and I love the beginning too!

[@scottmcneill761]

I Never used a palm nailer like that,looks pretty slick. Awesome job as always 👏👍

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[@luckehandyman]

I really like to see you do not leave any thing out, You guys are perfectionists i love that. I started watching the bathroom remodel now i am hooked. Be safe. Ray

[@shanetaylor9097]

Love when i watch these vids and things being done right i work for a custom builder and have seen some really crappy work good to see good work done ill watch more of you

[@rdh1394]

This channel reminds me of me and my dad when we remodeled my grandfathers house. We took down some walls and made it a open concepts design for the kitchen and living room. Love these videos!

[@john.french]

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[@robraymond4387]

Great job guys! I really like how you talk through your options and how you overcome the challenges that are inevitable in a remodel. I’ve been a carpenter for 25 years now and I’m learning some great tips from you. Keep up the great work!!

[@ronh9384]

Good video. I enjoyed watching you guys solve problems on the fly! A friend of mine asked a carpenter who was working on his mom’s house to take out the wall between his kitchen on the backside of the house and living room in the front of the house. The carpenter said yeah I can do it no problem. I had been to his house many times and said please don’t just take the wall down, that it will need a beam and asked him to consult with a structural engineer. He said the carpenter had told him no beam was needed. I told him, yes it can be done but it will need a beam because the wall is load bearing. He consulted a structural engineer and the engineer confirmed it was load bearing and needed a beam. I had him get the engineer to go ahead and do plans for the beam etc., and the plans should be be approved in 2-3 weeks and he is having it done in the spring next year. With a different carpenter. Better to confirm things with a structural engineer as you guys obviously do!

[@oneeyedjack8525]

That's the beauty of wood you can bend it and make it fit and nail it. Love that little air Hammer you have. My dad always said that with the right tools you can move the world

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[@gieco95]

Not even a mistake, just the kind of crap that can happen in construction. This is channel is seriously fantastic, you guys are awesome thank you for the clear and honest approach you have to your publishing.

[@truthdefenders-]

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[@paratrooper8916]

These guys are awesome, I like seeing how they go through a problem and eventually solve it but they break down why the things they originally were thinking wouldnt work and eventually get to the solution and why.

[@jeremymenning56]

The solution for those joists with the 4x4s is perfect. Whoever built my house in the 60's did the "half on / half off" with my main floor joists at the sill plate. Now I'm starting to see cracked joists exactly where you'd expect. What a mess. Good video. I learned a lot.

[@TacoNissan]

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[@trindal359]

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[@michaelkrok6262]

I do this all day and then come home and watch it on youtube. Probably means you guys are doing a great job. Duck the haters boys.

[@ziejekz2290]

Haters? I'm all for concrete structures and brick. Or frame houses, where real sized material is used, and when it isnt a sponge (look at how many growth rings there is in those 4x4's), only way any fastener will really hold to it is a metal plate and bolt through it. Otherwise you can use a styrofoam, as long as "'screw goes 3 inches deep", thats ok according to the spec, right? And you can get dense styro too, so where is the problem?

[@ovationhomerenovation]

I decided to go through the whole playlist to get the full story about this reno/remodel ... and I must say, it's one of the VERY FEW comprehensive channels where I could leave a comment every 5 minutes, asking questions etc. Really good content. I'll get to this level soon. Watch me.

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[@milesharlan1]

Love Love the details with joist hangers and measuring roof load support boards.. We all look forward to the next video! Keep up the good work!!

[@jmalte4702]

Man, It is so refreshing to see a true professional at work and not a hack…..

[@firemanj35]

I really like and appreciate the effort you make to check different thoughts from your followers but also check with your engineer. It says alot about you as a person and contractor. You understand you can be fallible just likt the rest if us. Thank you 😊

[@Novasawildone]

Wow. I am learning so much. You are excellent at explaining the process and steps.

[@StudPack]

Cool thx Bianca 👍💪

[@joshuasimoneaux2375]

I like how you used those hangers I've only use that kind one time on a home project to attach a set of stairs to a deck. It worked really well.

[@motor2of7]

Your engineers comments on gluing are spot on. Gluing in the field is a highly inconsistent process with highly variable results. You can’t make any engineering strength assumptions about the results of a field glued joint.

[@stephensaines7100]

[You can’t make any engineering strength assumptions about the results of a field glued joint.] I beg to differ, albeit factors have to be taken into consideration. Consider that in some instances, screwing, unless done with a torque break, can actually reduce the strength of the glue bond. I build structures held together with only glue and friction fit. Mechanical fasteners were eliminated in the prototype stage in my most successful designs. "In the field" if there's doubt as to the integrity of the glue/adhesive bond, you screw and glue. Adhesives will only add strength in critical situations. Airplanes, for instance, are bonded together.

[@motor2of7]

@@stephensaines7100 you’re comparing highly engineered and thoroughly tested situations (airplanes and such) to some guy squirting an unknown quantity of glue on a piece of wood with unknown moisture content, that might be clamped, or might not, or might be put under load before curing. I bet there’s a multi page procedure involved in the field joints you’re referencing. That’s very different. I built the airplanes you’re talking about and in my industry we don’t even allow friction to enter the calculations because the surface conditions are variable.

[@asherdie]

@@motor2of7 friction calculations is a major part of aircraft design.

[@motor2of7]

@@asherdie it’s not allowed in spacecraft design.

[@asherdie]

@@motor2of7 yes it is.

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Kudos to Jordan. You’re are an excellent videographer. I enjoy watching and learning from your KZbin channel.

[@T.E.P.]

super great job on all this .... all the energy you put in this channel is really coming thru. also GREAT sound work.

[@larryproffitt4729]

I'm not a carpenter so I would never do what you are doing but some of the issues you run into I would absolutely stress out about but you are like ahh piece of cake to solve. Love the videos.

[@1McMurdoSilver]

Details, Details... Smoothie King.. Looks interesting, wish they would be up north here in MN. Good job guys!!

[@fishimust4766]

Just a jab, but go Tigers, Auburn Tigers. Since the 2x6’s are only supporting the Sheetrock at such a small span on the cathedral ceiling side, that split wood fix is the way I would have went too. It’s going to look great once the drywall is finished and painted.

[@StudPack]

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[@mando1442]

That’s very good quality work. Focused on every minimum deatails lot to learn from. Thanks stud pack

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[@StudPack]

Thx wolfie 👍

[@donwhitmire978]

Your level of skill and knowledge ... wouldn't dare criticize if I thought I saw an error. Yeah, you would say please criticize. What a pro.

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Awesome video! Second time watcher on your channel-so far you really seem to know what you’re doing! Subscribed!

[@scottgealow4136]

We did exactly the same to our house with a nearly identical floor plan! Love it being as open as it is now....we used 3" steel square tubing with plates welded to each end to support the beam.

[@StudPack]

That’s going nowhere 👍

[@JLange642]

You, Sir. do a fantastic job and I like your approach and work ethic! Well done!!!

[@StudPack]

Thx 👍💪

[@fishsandwich610]

the video looks super clear. awesome job team.

[@ConspiracyTheoristDaily]

Definitely my favorite channel I follow on KZbin. You guys are great!

[@StudPack]

Thx Bobby 👍💪

[@HisboiLRoi]

At 12;32 when you began explaining the issue with the tops of the 9' ceiling joists extending above the top of the LVL beam, my immediate thought was put a 4x4 on top of the LVL. Lo and behold!

[@jackknife89actual]

On the topic of gluing: I am a designer of prefab wall panels and prefab trusses, in the North East US. As your engineer said, the only time they require us to glue anything is on truss repairs (in that case both gussets and scabs are glued). In all my years i have never seen glue as a requirement for beams or stud packs.

[@cineaste1969]

You guys’ quality of work is the gold standard as far as I am concerned. I have been in construction for forty years both commercial and residential and you should see some of the hack work out there. You provide concise explanation of both the problems and solutions. You understand the concept of loads which many people don’t. As far as some of the comments on here, funny how people who have never built anything are suddenly structural engineers and expert repairmen. Keep up the excellent work both in front and behind the camera as well. That is also noticed. 👍🏼

[@pshort8086]

Another Awesome video! The problem solving is what so many channels are missing.

[@gregmcgraw9558]

You guys have made all my do it yourself jobs so easy. Thx

[@StudPack]

👍💪🇺🇸

[@djamnew]

You can tell a real professional by how they navigate road blocks. Mr. Stud Pack, it's clear to me that you aren't easily frazzled. Problems that would put a DIY'er in the fetal position, hardly seem to faze you. Cool, calm, and collected; the kind of professional I want on my team.

[@MatthewJRedmond]

Looks great, very rugged indeed. I'm up in Vermont where we accumulate good snow loads and the only time I bother gluing beams together is when they're for a floor system and that's only to stop any possible speaking from them sliding past each other under a live load. Also Paul have you ever thought about picking up a Stanley Fubar? They work great for twisting crooked lumber where you need it. Not to mention the 1000 and 1 other uses. For as cheap as they are might be something to look into. I carry one on the left side of my pouches in a hammer holster all the time. Keep up the great work you guys 😁👍

[@llee4225]

Love your videos that are concise straight to the point. Just thinking an alternative to cutting the bowed rafter would be to sister a piece to have straight edge for the ceiling dry wall.

[@pcatful]

Great framing and design sense.

[@johnmehaffey9953]

Yep we call it bridging across the rafters it holds everything together, and it certainly makes sense to keep all the beams on the same level, I used to drive every one to despair by eyeing the timber to get the straightest and best without knots in it

[@ianbelletti6241]

A good example of adhesive use in residential is between the subflooring and the floor joists to prevent squeaking floors.

[@dustyflair]

Dude I gotta admit you are VERY GOOD at what you do.

[@Lou.B]

I'm really enjoying your descriptions of the "Problem >> Solution" scenarios, as in the entry/foyer ceiling joists (10:33). Reminds me of that old song; "The thigh bone's connected to the knee bone." For me it just highlights the critical importance of a knowledgable and principled Builder! Thanks for all the lessons!

[@TT-ik3kd]

Thats is more then a good repair. Nice work

[@jameslebreton5989]

I really like the way you explained everything, keep doing what you are doing😀

[@remushaynes2693]

sirs; i absolutely love these instructional videos and must say, i know of no other video that does this. thank yall for these and for keeping yalls minds on safety.................g

[@bolerdweller]

I used to do layout for a lot of modular building units. Engineers specified a glue pattern and fastener patern/layout on most beams in those buildings. We also weren't allowed to have those kinds of gaps in between plys in lvl build up beams, we had to glue up, sandwich, tack it and hammer flat before it was nailed off or tech screwed.

[@finishfloorsllc.228]

Mr Poul you’re definitely a Master! Very good work and professional 👍🏼🤛🏼

[@meansled]

The oblong holes are for skewed installations. for hips or valleys. (You don’t have to toe nail the Tico. There’s a stamped drawing on the LSSUI hanger for bent flange detail) those rafters holding drywall are basically a drop ceiling. just 3-4 16d toe nails would work just fine. Just leave the twist in the rafters is fine too. The wood is already dried out and avoids cracking. Cheers.

[@louoldschool7047]

good work, your finished product always looks great

[@MarkSmith-zn4oy]

Looking good guys can’t wait to see it finished

[@johnalvitre3154]

I like your idea of the block to support or even consider metal strap binding the non weight bearing "support" to keep it all together and not allow movement, especially with the drywall it will support.

[@SirAnthony25]

Y’all remind me of building with my father , cherish your time together.

[@commenter8360]

Hint for people using the Simpson Strong ties in awkward situations. Simpson makes a screw which is spec'd to replace the nails. This can come in very handy.

[@commenter8360]

@Philip B Good question. I won't go back to nails, just because I had an instance where i needed to take a hangar out and it was not fun with those nails, but I think the nails are cheaper. And a little bit adds up when you're putting in hundreds.

[@SIE44TAR]

Same issue here in TN with those hangers. I really wish the box stores would carry them. Also, I think it depends on the application as to whether or not to reuse lumber. I use it all the time for blocking.

[@johndoe1765]

THANK YOU LEARNED A LOT ABOUT ANGLES AND LOADS AND THE IMPORTANT.

[@scorsagain]

Now that's attention to details. Great info...............

[@damiensampson7323]

Gotcha Thank you for the explanation Paul, Makes sense. Keep up the great work guys.

[@StudPack]

You got it thx Damien 👍💪

[@operationmickeymouseharold6780]

Anything over 6'-0" bracing you have to T-brace . Glue is used on roof , wall and floor sheathing / firestop and bottom plate sealant besides foam gasket and small wall we glue bottom plate with block at bottoms to keep from twisting . I would also lester up the drop clg to keep from twist and sags it evens out the high hoist .

[@guyc66]

I love that air-powered hammer tool you used to drive those nails into the hangers......that really made quick work out of it.

[@austinhastings8793]

Trade name is "palm nailer" if you want to buy one.

[@guyc66]

Austin Hastings Thanks for the info

[@darrinscoilsclouds1498]

You are the best at explaining what your doing and why your doing it. Great job. I’m totally jealous of your relationship with your son👍 I wish I was that tight with my dad.

[@gregorybondi5220]

I like that you show the problems and how youre going to fix them. I initially thought the 4x4s could have been a place to make use of the old 2x4s nailed together like the stud packs and used on edge for the length. But I see your point about the effect of time on them. I really like the open air look. Too bad you couldnt have it all the way for the outside wall to the peak. Would have looked HUGE in there.

[@gregorybondi5220]

Cant wait for my shirt, btw!

[@paulbettencourt9657]

Love the attention to detail 👍👍

[@marjoriejudge5348]

during both our renovations I provided a large igloo cooler filled w/ ice, power-ade drinks and bottled water - the mason's workers were especially appreciative for a cool drink in late August

[@garbelfunkle]

I don't think I've seen people address comments to the depth you guys do, actually asking the engineer was a super nice touch. Interested more in what you meant about crowning, I know all wood has a bow, but I wasn't sure which way you wanted the bow to be. Anyways love the videos, makes it a good morning.

[@vita8208]

Very nicely done!!

[@drumswest5035]

If you are a framing contractor get the Simpson Strong Tie catalog, the info in that is amazing, has the design criteria and everything they make in it. Im a structural draftsman and use it all the time with the engineers i work for.