THIS IS WHY YOU WANT TRIPLES | Simracing FOV Comparison: Single, 32:9 Ultrawide and Triple Screens

I made a quick comparison between the FOV of a 32" Single Screen, a 57" 32:9 Ultrawide and 32" Triples - both at the same viewing distance. This should help you to decide for yourself whether an Ultrawide or Triples are worth it.
All FOVs are corrected to have the same vertical FOV so this is pretty much independant from screen size (obviously, you can only get so close to your head).
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[@CardNox]

My compliments Dan. Short and informative. No BS and straight to the point. Footage was very usefull. This is how a video should be. Keep it up! ps. loving my triples :)

[@miyagiracer]

that‘s the best video i‘ve ever seen to show the diffence between the 3 👌 nice job dan !!

[@nmasson30]

Perfect timing, I am ordering 3 32” monitors this week, but was almost swayed by the Ultrawide. Thanks

[@mr_pase6956]

Nice comparison, Dan. Like it.

[@RK-io2os]

Very nice comparison, thank you Dan, Danke

[@doug_vickers]

Thankyou Dan. I was dithering between UW and Triples but now I have decided to go with Triples. The first time I've seen all 3 on screen at the same time which really helped me decide. Of course I may not live long enough to use them as the Mrs. will probably kill me! 🤣 👍

[@DanSuzuki]

Been there doing that discussion 🤣

[@romansenecky8595]

Many thanks for your efforts to find it out. ❤

[@darpots5018]

Thank you, triples upgrade incoming. Naturally my wife and bank account are going to be less thankful.

[@EricGibson1]

Trips all day. I do vr also, but I prefer trips as having button boxes and iflag devices and stuff 3rd party software running. Yes the 3rd party software runs in vr unless you have the oculus (meta) headset then there's extra steps. Love your content to man. Have been a big help in many ways of setting things up too.

[@h1tzzYT]

I started with single 16:4 24inch monitor, then went for janky dual screen 16:9 24inch + 5:4 19inch to triple 32inch setup. At first i thought okay i overdid with my triple screen, but once i started racing sim on it, my doubts went away instantly. The immersion is insane, i started to get much more comfortable with traffic and in battles, i can see all my mirrors with a glimpse of my eyes and any kind of radar system became unnecessary. When i tried ets 2 it blew me away how much i used to miss of my surroundings, i can just drive and literally look to my side windows for nice scenery, immersion completely transformed. I have tested VR but was not that excited mostly due to lack of comfort and sense of IRL surroundings. If you can afford and fit, get triples, its really something.

[@mdui2010]

Agreed. 110%. I have upgraded the whole way I started with a 75” Sony Bravia 75hz, to an 49” ultra wide 144hz, to now I have triple 27s 175hz and I don’t think I can go back. I’ve only had the triples for a week now but I’m already convinced this is the way. thanks for reaffirming my decision.

[@gadirigadiri2763]

After that if you try vr you will say thats the way 😊

[@Scyula]

​ @gadirigadiri2763 if you want immersion, yes, that's the way, but to play long gaming sessions... VR is more exhausting, you sweat a lot, get uncomfortable after a time, and also "lose" your peripherals (can't have a dashboard or things like that). I have both, it depends on what I want I use one or the other Note: I know you can insert some windows in the VR view but I couldn't fit it well, for me, removes all the immersion just because it is not in the car

[@chrisracing81]

@@gadirigadiri2763Nope, I have triple 32 and HP Reverb G2 - but I only use triples - more FOV, more comfort, more hz, more fps.

[@N1w3s]

​@@gadirigadiri2763Not really, I have to make so many losses in VR and am currently converting to 27 inch triple, but will still keep VR but for normal driving triple is simply the sweet spot of comfort

[@bongobob7079]

@@gadirigadiri2763 nope tried VR would rather triples anytime.

[@wimwilms1424]

Still using 32“ in WHQD with TrackIR. Comparing to what I see in a real car, driving real fast, for me it’s the most realistic view. Because there is seldom time, to use your complete field of view, as you are involved with concentrating on the track and the other cars ahead of you. Once in a while, there is time, to take a glimpse in the sidemirrors. Smooth looks into the turn is what TrackIR perfectly accomplishes for me. Other solutions may be preferred by other folks. Have fun!🏎💨

[@paulwalker4919]

Man I wish I could've seen this entire race in that triple view 😎🏎️

[@MacheteDontText100]

Good video! Although quite low fov for 57'' uw. I run 114 with my 49''. Of course depends of the monitor distance from your eyes, but in my case it would be around 120-125.

[@rickthomas9894]

Thanks for this Dan. I use an MSI 34 in Ultrawide and TrackerIR5. I've been considering getting two more standard 32 in monitors to "upgrade" to triples. From your example, triples make a significant difference and seem to provide a more natural, maybe intuitive, view of the action around the car. TrackIR5 is great. There is a bit of a learning curve with it though, and it's one more peice of software I have to make sure is properly tuned before I drive. Part of the ease of triples, I imagine, is just being able to hop in the rig and go.

[@DanSuzuki]

Oh absolutely, I played around with TrackIR and once you get used to it it greatly increases visibility. I never overcame the motion sickness though - I've had no problems with VR, but TrackIR always made me feel a little motion sickness 😅 I think if you want to add side monitors to your 34" you would have to check 27" monitors though - I think those would match the vertical height of your 34"

[@rickthomas9894]

Oh! Cool! I'll look into this a bit deeper. One of the stopping points for me with triples was the price point when married to the thought of + 2 x 32" monitors. If I can get 27"s that will match, that seriously saves some $$.🙂

[@DanSuzuki]

@@rickthomas9894 This here is a great website to check this kind of stuff about monitors :) www.displaywars.com/27-inch-16x9-vs-34-inch-21x9

[@rickthomas9894]

Thank you!@@DanSuzuki

[@Enjoying-Life]

Dan, could we get an actual view of the gt cars on triple? Like a first person view. May we could start a trend where everyone uses the same car to set up their screens. Always curious how some folks side monitors look versus the in-game view.

[@notdreadyet33]

Just recently Dave Cam did a video on going back to a single screen after using triples. Just waiting on one of the streamers to say you must go to VR now. 😆 I'm using ultrawide, but would love triples. However, they seem like a headache at times. My calculated FOV is 101, but I would like to see out the side windows for sure. It would really help to also see the Framerates for each of these.

[@mementomori4972]

The higher the resolution the lower the frame rate. Three 1440p monitors have considerably more pixels than a 4k monitor for example. That said, it's well worth it, even if you have to sacrifice some framerate. It's not only about immersion, but it's also a huge advantage to see so much more of what's going on around you. In the end it doesn't really make much difference whether you hit 120 or 190fps. I'm happy as long as I don't drop under 80fps Everything above that looks very good to me,...and to be honest, I don't even notice a difference between 110 and 144 frames, which is the max my monitors can do anyways,...

[@DSaw78]

Sold me when I was already leaning that direction, so now to figure which ones to buy 😅

[@kevanhandley7521]

Dan what’s your viewing distance in ACC? Out of curiosity do you input the size of screens and distance from in the game settings or do you set it up on how it looks?

[@JoeValla]

now a video of performance diference in various titles, including AC with csp + pure :D good vid, made me miss my tripples, but not the performace hit

[@mementomori4972]

I have a different kind of "performance hit" when I don't use triples. I'd rather lose some framerate than my field of view. To be honest, I don't even notice a difference between 110, which I get with triples, or 144 frames, which is the max my monitors can do. They are a necessity for me and if my PC get's to slow to run them, it will be time for an upgrade anyways.

[@screenfacer]

I was much faster with VR than triples, which used to be a lot cheaper. Now I use a Pimax Crystal

[@miyagiracer]

vr is good for sprint races, nothing for endurance races. but for the immersion vr is great

[@theonlylolking]

Yeah, I went from triples to VR. The VR fov I have is a little more than ultrawide, but better depth perception and headtracking makes up for the loss. ​ @miyagiracer7568 VR is fine for endurance. It increases immersion as most race cars do not have air conditioning. You are probably in a climate controlled house still complaining that it is too warm lol

[@simracingflying1450]

It is funny really but I also don’t really like racing for more than maybe 45 minutes in VR because it’s hot but to your point nothing like pulling g’s in a real car with a helmet on lol.

[@janikwetzel7170]

I drove a 12 h race with a friend in VR. It was okay for me but I am young.

[@Xtriko]

VR is hot? I never saw a real driver sweating…😅

[@simonjohnade]

Great video Dan!! I wish it had the space for triples and am using VR which I'm very happy with. But... just wanted to ask if you have changed your opinion from when you recently reviewed the Pimax (I think it was). In the video you said that if you were not a content creator, then you would prefer VR to triples. Do you still feel the same?

[@DanSuzuki]

Absolutely, nothing beats the immersion (and ease of use) of VR in my opinion!

[@MrJoachim67]

Great tube thanks ! High end 1080p with 3070 TI for best 'frame-rate" or turn down settings 1440p ( 27 inches ) - what you think ?

[@bmwM3M5M6]

I have 1080p where it’s super blurry and unsharp on ACC, it’s really sharp and clear on iRacing ( can read everything from in-game dashes) 1440p would be perfect but 1080p is still very good and better for fps. I have just 2070 Super and have some settings to low and OFF, and others to high. Ideal is: 1440p, triples 32” and high FPS. But 1080p triples 27” and high fps is equally good. It’s like Bugatti Chiron vs Bugatti Chiron Pur Sport…. both are top and fast but Pur Sport is just that better and faster. You get the point 😅 You won’t be unhappy with 1080 27” triples. It’s still like sitting in the car feeling if you have in-game camera settings right.

[@casual_driver]

Thanks for the comparison video, it is very helpful when trying to make a decision. Do you think 32" is enough to give you a close perspective of sitting in a real car? Or do you have to go bigger?

[@DanSuzuki]

I was using 55" triples for some time before going back to 32" .... much prefer the 32" monitors. I think it's the perfect sweetspot of FOV (my FOV is limited by the ears on my seat).

[@buttspencer7263]

The affiliate link for the monitors is not working can u tell me which monitors u are using ? Greetings ✌🏻

[@2ndLastJedi]

Have you tried setting the ultrawide as the centre in a triple screen setup? Maybe 27-34-27"?

[@benjimc1]

this is what i was looking into, but some games don't support odd aspect ratios for triples.

[@JaredPaul01]

I'm a triples fan boy, I even prefer it over VR for daily racing. The only thing I would add is the cost of the triple monitor stand, and get a good one to save your sanity when it comes to alignment.

[@bmwM3M5M6]

ON POINT with sanity. I tweaked for daaaaays and still not perfect for my monitors and setup. I choose to live with it and looking forward to “triple screen single screen monitor” like 1 big curved single screen that projects an image just like triple monitors so NO BEZELS, no bezel free kit and NO alligment issues = DREAM

[@OldCdnGamer]

Hey Dan, awesome videos and awesome streams. My question for you is about the Ultrawide. I have an 34" Ultrawide and I sit 750mm from the screen. Will the Ultrawide 102 FOV still work? What was your process of calculating this FOV. Using the Modern FOV Calculator for my screen and distance it calculates to 25.6 for the Ultrawide FOV. This FOV calculations etc are confusing me as I don't know what to use. :( Also does it matter if you are in ACC or iRacing? Hope you can explain. :D

[@DanSuzuki]

I would recommend to just use the ingame FOV calculators - those do a good job!

[@AndreMiguelLopes69]

This is iRacing so Horizontal FOV. That 25 FOV of your is vertical FOV for AC and ISI engine. That's why is so low. That and the 75cm distance. Also if Dan is using iRacing calculator, it takes on account the curvature of the monitor. It gives a few more degres of FOV, like 5 to 10.

[@Sean-ps3ec]

I have 49in Super Ultrawide and I made sure to sit around 24 to 25in away from the screen and I find that to be the best distance from screen for me. 750mm seems a bit to far away to get the best FOV out of your screen real estate.

[@alecmillea4539]

The website also gives you the ability to chose what game. The default is iracing but you can chose acc, ac, f1, whatever you want.

[@DrR1pper]

The only time the trad of in much smaller FOV versus triples makes sense is if using VR. And boy is it a trade off that can be worth it!

[@Nick_Kearney]

I'd love to get triples, but the space I have to work with is an issue. But I can just sneak in a 50" ultrawide so that is my next upgrade I've got planned.

[@zzmadd]

I have triple, a bit heavy on the graphics but I don't go back! You need to test Simagic P1000 pls!

[@Cloxxki]

Is it a fair visual comparison without the screen edges? if we're to ignore edges, why not two curved wide screens?

[@XBOW83]

I love my lg 45 ultrawide, prefer 21/9 than 32/9, fov was good for me and curve was amazing

[@romansenecky8595]

Hi Dan, I am going for simm and have space 2mx2m (6,5" by 6,5"). Will triples fit in? What size of screen? I cannot "google it out" anywhere and you have seen it all :-). Thanks, Roman

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@romansenecky8595 I am researching and it gets very confusing but 27 or 32 inch triples should definitely fit in 2m x 2m when mounted just behind the steering wheel. As you get bigger screens than that it gets much larger area required. Davecam said 3x27 was about 1.3m and Daniel Morad said 3x32 was about 1.6m

[@rockerbauer]

Ultrawide gives you all you need. I experienced a triple rig just for curiosity, and find myself usind just the center monitor. Triple are expensive, hardware demanding, and, IMO, doesn't worth the extra cost in general.

[@RareAmv]

I mean, my triple 32'' 1440p 144hz setup (including the stands! Friend of mine made his completely out of wood and works perfect so there is cost to be saved there as well) cost me around the same as a single decent ultrawide (~700 euro ish) (ok yes some 32:9's can be bought quit cheap, im looking at the 49 '' ones). And yes i bought my screens secondhanded but by sniffing around for some good deals, you can get pretty decent screens. Espescially if you don't really need the highest refresh rate monitors or that picture perfect image you can get around with something quit fun. The biggest problem would be space ;). But to each their own.

[@rockerbauer]

@@RareAmv Yes, I forgot about the space... anyway, if you have it, and you like it, that is okay, but it isn't for everyone, like VR.

[@bmwM3M5M6]

And some GPU power. I use triples 1080 with 2070 super and have many settings and low on iRacing. ACC is hopeless for me for triples

[@JohnnyGification]

But that's the thing. Ultras don't give you all you need.

[@rockerbauer]

@@JohnnyGification Just VR does.

[@Rene_Bo]

Yes indeed.. love my triple g7 32”❤

[@ptrentertainment9617]

You're a very good driver!

[@AGabaldoni]

Thanks for the video. I am upgrading to a new rig with an Intel i9 14900KS, 192Gb DDR5 RAM, NVidia 4090 and Gen5 NVME drives, with water cooling. Do you think I could run triple 5120x1440 monitors with this and max out video settings? The 45" Curved LG Ultragears would be great but I don't know if the machine could handle 15360x1440 resolution... Thanks!

[@christian7496]

Why not running triple 57 inch 7680 x 2160 monitors

[@davedeja]

Dan, what is the best way to measure the angle from the center monitor to the right or left with curved screens?

[@DanSuzuki]

Check this video here 😊 I show an easy method there kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnaqlGBjlJqBn5I

[@davedeja]

Thank you, Dan!

[@GabrielHaller]

If you were to buy a wheelbase today and you had the budget, which one would you choose? Simucube 2 pro is getting on in years, Asetek Invicta bundle is still very expensive. VRS, Forte, Simagic? Your channel is the only one I still trust. I would be very happy about an answer.

[@DanSuzuki]

Would still buy the Simucube 2 Pro ... I think after all these years Simucube is still making the best wheelbases. Asetek Invicta also is nice, they are still on early firmware so it might improve in the future, great QR, but as of today I think the SC2 Pro is the way to go!

[@GabrielHaller]

@@DanSuzuki Bad time to buy a high end wheelbase, huh? Invicta is not yet mature and simucube will soon have to follow suit with an SC3.

[@DanSuzuki]

No, it’s a great time with so many good options! Simucube just teased a big firmware update for the SC2 as well - doubt there will be any new SC soon - there certainly is no need for it.

[@GabrielHaller]

@@DanSuzuki I would get the Invicta Bundle for the same price as a SC 2 pro, VX Pro pedals and a Fcore wheel. Even if the Asetek pedals are better, I went with the SC2. Do you think the "open" wheelbase from asetek on the back plays a role in longevity? I mean it is possible for dust to get inside, no?

[@kingston178]

Hi Dan was wondering, to you still you irFFB? If yes what version? Im having trouble reinstalling it with windows 11 after upgrading my PC

[@DanSuzuki]

Hey, no - never used irFFB.

[@status_flo]

only had issues with it. Yes, it feels better/ But at what costs? I had races where I gridded and had no FFB at all, game crashed, etc. Not worth the risk imo.

[@SiskoMilo]

Do you think it is better to have 27inch 1080p triples over G9 type of 49inch ultrawide?

[@DanSuzuki]

see the video and judge for yourself :) for me: absolutely worth it!

[@macubasu]

And Dave Cam just went to a single! I prefer VR, but am happy to use a single, specially with iRView.

[@AyserJ]

Is there any reason to go for/against using curved triples apart from flat? e.g., is one easier or harder to configure

[@imromano2448]

Some games don't support curved, so doesn't matter what you do, it's gonna have some distortion. (I think Iracing is one of those games, I'm not sure if they've fixed/updated it)

[@AndreMiguelLopes69]

@@imromano2448 iRacing has now a FOV calculator with the curvature on the equation. So it's supported for sure.

[@frankderks1150]

@@imromano2448 No noticable or significant distorion here or I got used to it. But you need to calculate fov a bit different. Fov angle you get from the outer screen edges but in the calculator you must subtract about 2 inches from the distance to screen to get the right fov. The amount to subtract depends on the curvature. You can use a straight edge from screen side to side and measure the exact amount you need to subtract between the straight edge and the middle of the screen.

[@elmstrong]

Is it possible to use 16:9 side monitors with a 21:9 as center screen?

[@supernumex]

I also want to know this. e.g 1440p 21:9 ultrawide in middle and 1440p 16:9 side monitors. Would it be more difficult to setup than triples?

[@Sean-ps3ec]

Yes, but it will come with headaches of setting them up and pushing the resolution

[@supernumex]

@@Sean-ps3ec It is only about 10% more pixels than triple 16:9

[@stefanwehinger1235]

I used triples for a year now. Biggest problem is that I have not DP slot left on the graphics card for VR and plugging in and out SUCKS big time. I will therefore go back to UW Samsung 57" (as soon as it is below 2k)

[@pedrokranios]

You could use a DP switch

[@Sean-ps3ec]

I hear ya. I JUST bought the Neo G9 and replaced my triple 32's... I love the convenience and being able to have my main monitor plus VR plugged in at the same time while still getting 80% of the view I would be getting with triples without all the freaking hassle of lining up my monitors if they are walked into, or dealing with NV surround every time I update my drivers, or unplugging 2 monitors when I want to race in VR.. Just much simpler with 3/4 the view of triples

[@stefanwehinger1235]

@@pedrokranios I don't think there is a DP switch for 144hz triples

[@pedrokranios]

@@stefanwehinger1235There is because I use it for my 3x 144hz

[@traind]

I have triples but think a potential advantage of an ultrawide is screen quality. An Oled ultrawide would look great vs triples that are non oled. But perhaps they have oleds now in smaller screens for triples?

[@DanSuzuki]

You can easily buy 27 or 32" OLED screens nowadays :) The LG 21:9 44" 800R OLEDs are also an amazing choice for triples - you can actually follow the curve. Unfortauntely it will still look a bit weird and distorted because of the lack of curve rendering.

[@Skinketern]

Hey Dan... thinking of switch my set og 3x27 1440p for a set of 3x32 1440p.. is it worth the upgrade

[@DanSuzuki]

If you want to increase the distance to the screens, go for it :)

[@arekdbz3]

Mate, how did you come up with 102 degree FOV for ultrawide? I have 34" ultrawide and calculator showed me 60 something

[@gene_the_dev_42]

i think he might have used super-ultrawide (like samsung G9) as 16:9 -> 21:9 (UW) should definetely be narrower (it adds only about 1/3 compared to standard 16:9)

[@DanSuzuki]

Sorry, should have been more precise - I'm talking about 32:9 ultrawides.

[@chuckystang]

Biggest takeaway for me is that with triples now the side mirrors do not get in the way vs an ultrawide. All you see in your peripherals with an ultrawide is the damn mirrors

[@buddy5088]

I went from ultrawide to triple LG 34” gsync 1440’s. I’ll never go back to single monitors. Purchased all three for 750 on sale on Amazon.

[@Raceeverything]

I use triples to film POV race videos which are cool but I'm Thinking I want to try the crystal to experience it

[@MRMD1srl]

Thats why i adore Triple screens

[@chrisracing81]

@dan you could have setup the triples with less degrees so this video would not have looked so weird. And some singe screen user can say it is enough, but when you switch from formula to GT3 cars, you will see much more difference. For me 32‘ triples are perfect!

[@rickswanracing3139]

The extra Peripheral vision of the triples helps a ton in battles, spatial relations, and traffic management. I do find that seat selection could definitely effect it if you have a seat with large hoops. Good video! I had been debating getting rid of my triples in favor of single large ultrawide to make it easier on the GPU, but your video confirms that triples are definitely the way to go. Then again I tend to run LMPs so I have so much physical hardware in the cockpit I would likely just do a single ultrawide if I really wanted to. Would definitely miss triples for GT though even with the netting. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIfQiWBjg7ZrgtUsi=IjCGJiJCCe9Q6RhZ

[@Sean-ps3ec]

Love this comparison and with super ultra wide you get even better FOV out of a single screen and they are much closer or even more expensive than triples. But I like it for the convenience of having less clutter, 1 screen and not having to deal with NV Surround lol. Plus I can have my VR headset plugged in.

[@DanSuzuki]

I wish I could use surround (not possible due to cloning the center monitor to the capture card) - everything is so much more annoying without surround. I do get the argument though when people do not have a dedicated rig for simracing because Surround has some annoyances in "normal" use.

[@DanDrum89]

What about three Ultrawide ?

[@atomatt]

Anyone has done ultrawide g9 47 + two 32'? I just started with ultrawide and it's clearly not enough, so want to switch to triple screen. And wondering, if I can reuse my g9 or better get 3 x 32 inch?

[@DanSuzuki]

it's possible but it's a pain (you will have to render triple ultrawide resolution) ... plus the side monitors will just be too far imo

[@atomatt]

@@DanSuzuki thanks. Ordered 3 x 32.

[@bartoszszarko8785]

what monitors u have?

[@chuckystang]

For triples, is it best to have flat panel or curved?

[@SerialDriver]

Curved

[@scottydvintagevideos]

I have flat 32" LG triples and they're fantastic. I can't speak for curve 32"s but I assume they'd be great as well.

[@Alan-ww8vi]

There was never a question about the superiority of triples. The issue was always cost or space.

[@markhallowell4059]

I run triples for endurance racing and VR for shorter races. Best of both worlds.

[@woodstocknun]

triple will always be king for sim racing.. but im racing on a 42inch single, mostly because of the older sim i play do not have proper support.

[@gingerbreadgirrl]

If there weren't the options for a high-FOV virtual mirror and a spotter, I would agree that triples are the way to go. As it stands, I'm very pleased with my uw and this video only reinforced my opinion that *I* don't need triples (at this time).

[@bongobob7079]

You never need triples. But if you want better immersion then it's a simple choice.

[@mementomori4972]

That argument makes no sense whatsoever. You are at a clear disadvantage if you don't have them. A spotter and a virtual mirror is nice to have but the guys who use triples also use a spotter and a virtual mirror. It's an addition, not a substitute. Just look at 2:50 in this video for example. You couldn't see that car alongside, even if you had your mirror set up to 140°. To be honest, your comment sounds a bit ignorant to me.

[@gingerbreadgirrl]

@@mementomori4972 sorry for being ignorant and not spending money on everything the internet tells me to

[@phouthon]

that’s not correct fov for the ultrawide though you have to enable multi projections to compensate for the display’s curve.

[@carlosyanez345]

Thank you for the video. Flat or curve?

[@DanSuzuki]

Whatever is cheaper - no bit difference for Simracing

[@m.balauszko]

And how about triples vs VR? That's the real question imo. Great video btw! Cheers from Poland.

[@regibson23]

Triples will always have the advantage for spatial awareness because you can see cars in your peripheral vision. VR you have to turn your head. VR only exceeds at immersion.

[@DanSuzuki]

Highly depends on the VR headset. I'd say the average VR headset FOV is sowhere in between ultrawide and singlescreen - closer to the ultrawide.

[@EricW6800]

In VR you have added depth perception. Which provides a far more natural feel of available space in a pack. It's not something you can compare, it's completely different imho.

[@m.balauszko]

Yeah. I have the triples and the reverb G2 and can never make my mind what I like more.@@DanSuzuki

[@caiourusimracing248]

@@m.balauszko hahaha, the same thing happens to me, I have triples 27 (and hp reberb g2) and I compare to try to stay with one and it is very difficult, now I go with triples for fluidity and I like to see my hands and my steering wheel, that is what is lost in vr, you see some hands and ruffles that are not yours. To compete, it is undoubtedly better triples, since I returned to triples after months of vr I recovered my irating.

[@roadi7]

super ultrawide for the win

[@sheep7255]

Something Dave Cam is trying, track IR could help with the single monitor

[@DanSuzuki]

Definitely! You need to "learn" the movement though - like turning your head to the side but keeping your eyes on the center monitor. TrackIR did give me a lot of motion sickness though when I tried.

[@sheep7255]

@@DanSuzuki Dave has switched to a single monitor just because of track IR, so maybe you should give it another go?

[@DanSuzuki]

@@sheep7255 tbh I can't think of a single reason (apart from price) why anyone would want to do that. Dave will be back on triples very soon 😅

[@Ivanoskyao]

What about 1 screen with TRACKIR?

[@Username_Invalid]

I have super ultrawide with TrackIR and prefer it over VR most of the time. VR is great for immersion but Track IR is so convenient and doesn’t require any extra cpu usage.

[@GuppyMilk334]

Im waiting for VR headsets with higher fov. I know there are some, but price tag is just too high. FOV is my only complain in most VR headsets.

[@A.Mihaylov]

Very good idea to compare it to shop people what they`re missing out , but I personally went for VR , Quest 2 has a 110 degree FOV plus the emersion is awsome.

[@der60er]

VR FTW

[@ahinton23031964]

Interesting...single is single 32 inch, triples is triple 32 inch and ultrawide is 49inch?

[@DanSuzuki]

it's independant of the screensize - I matched the samples via vertical FOV so this would be the equivalent of an 57"-ish ultrawide. Or think of it as a 27" to 49" ultrawide comparison at a closer distance.

[@Sean-ps3ec]

@@DanSuzuki Oh... I thought the comparison was 27in single to 34in ultra to 27in triples

[@ahinton23031964]

@@DanSuzuki gotcha thanks Dan

[@mickaelsflow6774]

Ultrawide and TrackIR (or OpenTrack + AITrack and a webcam). That worked wonderfully for me. Before I switched to VR. Note: yes, I'm worse off for FOV, but I play for immersion and fun. Edit/Addendum: I have a 21:9 Ultrawide, not a 32:9. I did try all type of (visual) setup at this point.

[@PulsingBanana]

im thinking of going this route and leaving VR. (Ultrawide+headtracking)

[@mickaelsflow6774]

@@PulsingBanana how "ultra" do you want it?

[@shoemoccasin]

Running G7/G9/G7 as quads in nvidia surround, true 180 fov, some compromises, but very immersive 10,240 X 1440...pushin' lots of pixels

[@Sean-ps3ec]

Yikes...hope you have a 4090

[@shoemoccasin]

3080Ti, it is struggling even with a decent overclock-90-100 Gsync'd FPS, also needs more vram@@Sean-ps3ec

[@Wilsonandcars]

Triples are the way to go.

[@virtualmotorheads]

We need the VR fan boys to see this video. Unless of course you can afford the Pimax Crystal and everything else that goes along with it. I love my triples. VR is back in the box for now.

[@roadi7]

with track ir

[@kevanhandley7521]

Is that iracing btw?

[@Daz555Daz]

Yes it is.

[@mgerim]

the problem with triples, that I would need 5 monitors then, and my gpu can take only 4

[@MrRichalu]

Arrrggghhhh. You say triples are a must have. DC has gotten rid of his. I'M SO CONFUSED. I had (have, but it's not working well at 5 yrs old) a 49" ultrawide. I wish I'd bitten the monetary bullet and gotten triples. Maybe I'd still be floudering around on track. Of course, I also would've wanted a more powerhouse PC, a DD wheelbase and much better cockpit and pedals. Ahhh well. They say hindsight is 20/20, but mine's still blurry.

[@SerialDriver]

On attend la réponse de phildecar qui va nous expliquer que le g9v c'est quand même le mieux

[@alexislouis3589]

triple is nice i have 32 triple for a year now but even wih a 5900x/4070 1440p its hard get 90fps constant even with no shadow & minimum car on screen... (everything else is on high,SMAA&HDR), so if you have a high end pc like me or better its ok but id rather go for a 49 ultrawide full high otherwise, you get like 144 fps easy on every track

[@bmwM3M5M6]

I have triples 1080 and on iRacing with my personal settings I get around 80-120 FPS. What would this fps be if i switch to UW ? How much gain is there from triples to UW

[@alexislouis3589]

@@bmwM3M5M6 in triple your GPU need to calculate 3 image insted of 1 so you will gain if you stain in 1080p if you go for a 1440p i dont know

[@bmwM3M5M6]

@@alexislouis3589 I understand. Thanks for reply ! 👍

[@Popkorn28]

I would get triples, if it were possible to connect 5 monitors to a graphics card. I need two monitors to work, so I cant have three more on the rig. I thought about displayport daisy chaining, but I dont know if it would work with that many displays, plus the high refresh rate

[@DanSuzuki]

there are GPUs where you can connect 5 display - only 4 can be on at the same time though, but there are great tools to create profiles for that (displayfusion for example)

[@JeremyLeech]

I want triples, but my wallet and current PC tells me no lol

[@carlosrey1331]

For general racing I can see the point, but if you are only interest in rally as myself at this point. You don´t really care about triples IMHO, ultrawide fits just right.. the extra vision is only applied on hairpins and once you know the stage you dont really need that extra vision.. so no worth for the extra fps cost, etc..

[@Hood.Housekeeping]

Why not do triple widescreen oh the cost. Ok then just do vr. Nothing beats it

[@ewenblack4174]

Don’t forget to tell them about the gpu upgrade they will need for the triples Dan…4 gpu’s later and about $4k spent I finally landed on a 4090😩

[@ewenblack4174]

@@atticushexcel9567 never said it’s required just like having the best I can afford!

[@LukeVesty]

Honestly, this video to me just shows how well an ultra wide holds up. By the time a car leaves your field of vision it almost immediately enters your wing mirrors. Therefore you're always able to see your opponent even with an ultrawide. If you consider also that real drivers at high end professional level wear a HANS, in some ways it's even more realistic to have your FOV constrained just a little bit. Drivers IRL can't just turn their heads freely as easily as they could if they weren't wearing a HANS. I won't deny that triples does provide some benefit (especially in cars that aren't single seaters). It's also true that not every racing driver IRL uses a HANS. But the jump from a 16x9 monitor to an ultra wide is far bigger than from an ultra wide to triples.

[@DanSuzuki]

I would disagree with this - being able to see cars in your peripheral vision helps a ton in close battles. But of course - everything is very subjective.

[@LukeVesty]

@@DanSuzuki yeah I don't disagree that triples offer superior situational awareness. My main point is that you can still maintain pretty decent situational awareness with an ultrawide and that the jump from an ultrawide to triples isn't as big as the jump from a 16x9 to an ultrawide. HOWEVER... I do run my FOV just slightly wider than optimal on my own rig (I have an ultrawide) to allow slightly better lateral vision. What I'm surprised about is that no manufacturer has yet made a super, super ultrawide that offers the view of triple monitors but in one seamless display.

[@SURG3NT]

Super ultra wide the new Samsung 57inch is the way to go on 2024

[@DanSuzuki]

Nah, triples will always beat it as you can see in this video 😅

[@SURG3NT]

@@DanSuzuki yes but I mean 57inch deffo gives more FOV than the Ultrawide in this video, in terms of width and height and picture quality is on a total different level unless u perhaps go triple Samsung G8’s, but with current Gpu horse power available the 57 seems best option

[@DanSuzuki]

It all depends on the distance to the monitor. This video shows the fov of a 57“ if it’s at the same distance as my 32“ triples Picture quality of the 57“ is decent for a VA panel but doesn’t compare to IPS or OLED monitors imo. I agree on the performance aspect - single screen is just easier, it’s mostly a CPU bottleneck though - even on 4K triples 😅

[@SURG3NT]

@@DanSuzuki hmmm I think u need to try it, as the FOV is different from this video for sure, also u say IPS panel looks better, that’s really how I know u have never tried or seen it in person, it’s a VA but mini led panel very close to a Oled imo. I agree tho triples u get bit more FOV but 1440p looking dated in 2024, just my opinion, cheers

[@DanSuzuki]

@@SURG3NT I’ve used the 57“ for several hours in my rig since I wanted to see if it’s a viable option for me 😊 the FOV is the correct one for sitting 56cm away from the screen. I wouldn’t really recommend to get closer than that 😅 you can get a bit more by rendering virtual triples (120ish FOV) to account for the curve - but then performance is dropping massively. We finally need a sim that can actually render a curved canvas.

[@dtrjones]

Never understood tripple monitors. VR is less expensive, less taxing on the hardware and you have the option to pair with a 6DOF motion rig which means you feel the ascents and decents more and have more realistic braking feedback. The display of something like Pimax Crystal even though is in VR is likely to be superior in resolution and image quality as well. I know you didn't list VR in the intro, but putting a title like "THIS IS WHY YOU WANT TRIPLES" is just sad because you've not done a fair comparison with all options.

[@DanSuzuki]

Check my crystal video then 😊 in that one I talk about how I would definitely switch to VR if I wasn’t streaming. Nothing beats VR in terms of immersion - they just need to improve the FOV a bit more for better peripheral vision. Also something like the crystal is way more taxing on hardware than triples, at least on my system

[@dtrjones]

Thanks Dan @@DanSuzuki will check that out as I'm looking at upgrading my HP Reverb G2. 👌 I guess it's probably a close call regarding processing power to run tripples and a high end VR headset like the Aero, Pimax Crystal or 8KX. 👍

[@flipcoin6301]

@@DanSuzuki In real racing, the helmet limits your peripheral vision. So the limited peripheral vision of a VR headset is not necessarily incorrect.

[@DanSuzuki]

@@flipcoin6301 True, but I'm sure real racers would appreciate better vision.

[@Spuddi3]

now do triple ultrawide

[@DanSuzuki]

That makes no sense 😅

[@Spuddi3]

but think of the content!😂

[@Horarik]

57" Ultrawide. Some say triple 32 are better and maybe there are but I went from 27/34/27 to the 57" UW and am missing nothing except bezels obstructing my view.

[@DanSuzuki]

This comparison actually shows the FOV of the 57“ UW :)

[@tonygee3284]

Go VR

[@NayveYT]

"Ultrawide and single screen is kind of similar" Sure, there are only 2 wing mirrors added in the view, that's nothing :).

[@klaazasimrace]

Good video as always ❤✌🤘i was just thinking of upgrading my 24" triple monitors into an 32" triple, do anyone here have some good advice ? should i go for triple tv monitors or pc screens ? i found that tv is cheaper than pc screens and tbh i dont really need more than 60hz 1080p is sweat spot for me, but is tv and pc screen has huge difference in between them ? My system spec: Rtx 3060 12gb Ryzen 5 5600G 64gb of ram If anyone has some good advice for me for cheap monitors do not hesitate 🤘 Ty in advance for everyone who answers.. much love❤❤

[@Lakedistrictrider]

Vr

[@awannagannaful]

...or just get VR ;

[@jobkinderen8882]

So you basicly say, Rennsport sucks atm! 😂