How To Use Brake Bias - Sim Racing's Secret Switch

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Danny Lee

Danny Lee

Күн бұрын

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@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
Just to inform you guys, Race Anywhere have recently narrowed the range of items that are eligible for the 5% discount, now mainly applicable to Pro Sim Rig and Race Anywhere branded items (rig components). Sadly, this means the example shown in the video (5% off a simucube base) is no longer possible. It's a shame and I can see why it's no longer possible, but I have to let you know so you don't feel as if I'm misleading viewers and baiting people with a deal that can no longer be got. What third parties do with their discount programs is totally out of my hands and all I can do is inform you of the change. Thanks for your understanding...
@NikkenMagboy
@NikkenMagboy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is probably the clearest video on BB i have seen.
@alpenjon
@alpenjon 2 жыл бұрын
I second that. The others I've seen didn't explain it as well and left me a bit intimidated. Thank you!
@The_Rustypost
@The_Rustypost 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, very clear. Great video, thank you!!!
@racekraft
@racekraft 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video. Love the background footage! This other video talks about when you’ll need to change brake bias in a bit more depth. Really good info when paired with this video. Why you NEED to change Brake Bias [SIMRACING TUTORIAL] kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3yVpJ9mhdRgZ6s
@_Arthur-
@_Arthur- 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, very clear! Thanks!
@MrRicardoMaravilha
@MrRicardoMaravilha 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@VishnuRajam4x4
@VishnuRajam4x4 2 жыл бұрын
Additional point: Brake bias also affects tire temperature and therefore overall grip of that tire - more temperature means less grip. For T1 at spa for example you want a more forward bias to not heat up the rears to give you maximum grip for accelerating up the next long straight.
@not.a.doctor
@not.a.doctor 2 жыл бұрын
Too much heat, not more temperature (temperature is just a measurement), and not enough heat can both hinder a tire's performance.
@felon5714
@felon5714 Жыл бұрын
Unless driving a fwd
@xMorales_x
@xMorales_x 11 ай бұрын
​​@@felon5714 you just made me lose sooooooo many brain cells
@felon5714
@felon5714 11 ай бұрын
@@xMorales_x why lol
@The08Marc
@The08Marc 8 ай бұрын
@@felon5714he probably didn't have much to begin with
@MMPICT
@MMPICT 10 ай бұрын
Thank you a lot! I did not notice it, but my brake bias on AC with the AMG GT3 EVO was standard on 71%. Now changing it between 52 and 54%. Laptime on Redbull Ring GP went from 1:32.80-1:34.00 to 1:30.00-1:30.90 on my first 15 laps, trying this out. The Lap record now is 1:29.792. Great video!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 10 ай бұрын
Wow, yeah, that would've been killing your car's balance!
@forbiddenera
@forbiddenera 6 ай бұрын
Oem cars are always heavily front biased and you generally want front bias anyway as your fronts will always have more grip on brakes so easier to lock the rears. I'm surprised anywhere near 5050 is drivable but I've never used iracing. But most cars in ac (and actually all other sims/games i play) I end up between 65-75 front usually.
@CaptainCrunch99
@CaptainCrunch99 4 ай бұрын
This is probably the best informative and graphical pleasing bias video ever made. Nice work !
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 4 ай бұрын
Thanks man, hope it helped you!
@iangordon8078
@iangordon8078 2 жыл бұрын
Great coverage of the most important topic in racing. Here is another tip. During a long race for tracks like Spa or Fuji turn 1, where you have a heavy brake into a hairpin followed by a long straight where corner exit is so important and cars without TC like PCup or formula cars. Moving the Bias forward just for this turn to keep the rear tires cool can help you get better traction getting back on throttle. It is another tool for the tool box when solving problems on track during a race. Managing tire temps through Brake Bias is yet another dimension of choosing the best balance between safety, rotation during cornering and traction on exit.
@church493
@church493 2 жыл бұрын
Bits missed: 1) in sims that simulate rain, the more wet>the less grip>the less mass transfer - more rearwards/closer to 50/50 bias optimal 2) if one is to heat brakes with brake dragging during formation lap, as there is no mass transfer, again, move brake bias to rear to not overheat fronts/for more even heat up (NOT forgetting to move it back to normal prior start)
@oppenheimer11
@oppenheimer11 3 ай бұрын
About the point 2 why there isn't mass transfer?
@church493
@church493 3 ай бұрын
@@oppenheimer11 when you go at constant low speed (during formation lap) you don't accelerate/decelerate = no front/rear transfer. Low speed = negligible side-Gs/insignificant side loading.
@oppenheimer11
@oppenheimer11 3 ай бұрын
@@church493 thank you. Can i ask you another thing please? I'm confused. At the very end of the video he said to increase bias to add understeer and decrease bias to add oversteer, but shouldn't be the opposite? If I increase bias the front will have more grip, thus there will be more oversteer, and viceversa if I decrease bias. Am i wrong?
@church493
@church493 3 ай бұрын
@@oppenheimer11 "increase (fronts) braking bias", make "more front biased braking" for fronts to brake more .. but also easier to lock/loose traction first with locked fronts "pushed outside of turn" .. thus understeer. "decrease bias", "less front-biased" - rears easier to lock first and and if it's mid-turn (as usually is during trailbraking), extra rotation or even rear lock/slip (think of like pulling handbrake that locks only rears), thus - more oversteer. You don't change grip by changing brake bias. You change which end will get braked more/are easier to lock/slip first and thus propagate more understeer or oversteer.
@oppenheimer11
@oppenheimer11 3 ай бұрын
@@church493 thank you for the explanation. I was interpreting it as more brake in front = more grip on front tires and more brake on rear = more grip on rear tires. I guess i was wrong, even tho all the explanation in the videos seemed to comply this idea, maybe I've just misunderstood since I'm a total beginner
@luismigueldias2425
@luismigueldias2425 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video, Im getting to understand brake bias much better. I didnt think it would affect the driving experience so much. A must watch if you are new to Sim racing.
@chrisvanegmond3157
@chrisvanegmond3157 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really great, clear and concise guide. One point I would add is that over longer races, depending on the car you might be shifting the brake bias over the duration of a stint, as the car gets lighter on fuel. Depending on where the fuel tank sits, the front or the rear of the car might get lighter so you may slowly shift bias away from that side as the car gets lighter, to preserve similar behaviour.
@rossant_gt6779
@rossant_gt6779 7 ай бұрын
well i needed this like 7 months ago! You've opened up a whole new space to gain time that I never knew existed. Thank you.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 7 ай бұрын
Thanks man, cheers for the watch and comment!
@Metroshica
@Metroshica 2 жыл бұрын
Every video you make is absolutely amazing. This one is no different. Thanks so much for these!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, far too kind
@pedrosilvaproductions
@pedrosilvaproductions Жыл бұрын
Brake Bias was something I thought I should change once in a lap and that was it, and that it wasn't something that important. After I started thinking about how I could make my car brake better or more stable during specific corners I soon realized how much it meant for lap times. I improved significantly after doing so. For example, in Spa, at the first corner and the last chicane I needed to have higher front bias in order to help the car brake better but have less of it for other corners because I needed the car to rotate and not stop as much. That alone made me shave about a second off a lap
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! A perfect example of how you can find the gains that seem impossible, just by giving everything a bit of thought and effort. Thanks so much for watching and commenting, too!
@BabblingBubbles01
@BabblingBubbles01 2 жыл бұрын
I've been play GT sport and now 7 for thousands of hours. I use BB for a few situations. You covered them well. Even showed demonstrations. Thank you for your help. But I've scoured the internet for someone ( A pro) to confirm and or have so much time in that they've found this little trick....and you DO NOT mention it either. So in the RAIN. Put BB All the way Foward to the fronts and you will stop without slides ...full pedal. So far I kill it in the rain just because of my braking technique. I challenge you to try...and tell me what you think. If it's food enough.....maybe a how to vid? Thanks
@RacingwithMax
@RacingwithMax 2 жыл бұрын
Mate, this is so helpful. Thank you very much. Only been at it six months or so with Sim Racing and a lot of this kind of stuff seemed really overwhelming. I feel like a lot of progress with some practice is to come now I know this
@bananaZn
@bananaZn 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I always had a rough idea of what brake bias is, now I really understand how to use it and when to increase or decrease it... thank you for the video, very helpful and well explained
@marksutherlandjr.2121
@marksutherlandjr.2121 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, this is the first "set up" type video I've watched where I came away with a clear understanding of what were talking about. Why it's important and how to implement meathod into my driving. 100% New Sub her.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
That's brilliant, thanks so much for leaving such kind feedback!
@patrikher
@patrikher Жыл бұрын
Great video. Had some issues in iracing/gt3 and Rudskogen. Drove the Audi and had problems in turn 3, the rear spins, and turn 10, can't trailbrake deep into the turn. Changed the brake bias so the car became more stable, voila! Gained more than 0.5 seconds Thank you!
@marki2233
@marki2233 3 ай бұрын
thank you so mutch for this video I was absolutely atrocius with brake bias I wulde use it in every corner by 3 to 4 percent. Now I understand how it really works thanks!
@Tyt4nium
@Tyt4nium 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video mate, I used the brake bias in the opposite way of purpose, I always thought it would make it easier to brake bringing the balance to the front, but last weeks I found that last laps of the race I'm losing so much time in braking, not being able to stop the car like at the first laps and rivals cut distance, it's because I needed to be moving to the back instead of increasing, very interesting
@npz_1310
@npz_1310 7 ай бұрын
I have seen many videos about bb and still don’t understand a thing. This video is the clearest explanation so far. Great work❤❤
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, too kind - I hope for this result every time I create a guide
@TheKingacevedo
@TheKingacevedo 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to explain this so well. It'll help the whole community as noobs as myself work towards online racing to be less of a menace to others by crashing all the time due to lack of knowledge.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 10 ай бұрын
And thank you for watching and commenting, I appreciate it!
@codywaldron2486
@codywaldron2486 10 ай бұрын
As an avid iRacing circle track/NASCAR racer, I use brake bias all the time to loosen (induces oversteer) or tighten (induces understeer) the car up to rotate through the center of the corner better. As mentioned in the video, in a fixed setup series this often the only thing to play with tuning wise. If you can grasp how to use it to your advantage, you’ll find success.
@zart70
@zart70 Жыл бұрын
I’m with everyone else in that I’ve watched several BB videos and this is finally the one that made it click for me. Great content, Danny.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Alex, that's a damn fine thing to read and I hope to keep supplying more like this
@doomblade5212
@doomblade5212 9 ай бұрын
I've read up on brake bias before but never truly understood it until watching this video, amazing content. Thank you so much
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 9 ай бұрын
Best thing to hear! Thanks so much for stopping and leaving your feedback
@jasoncorr9910
@jasoncorr9910 Жыл бұрын
Well done Danny, probably the best explanation of sim setup I have ever seen, not everyone understands everything about sim racing, so thanks for an uncomplicated explanation for new to sim recing like myself, it can be daunting to race online, maybe this will help me gain a place or 2, thanx again!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, don't ever give up on it because the best is just around the corner - you're well on the way to properly enjoying it and feeling like you've got it nailed.
@RRT_NightShifter1
@RRT_NightShifter1 2 жыл бұрын
Danny, what a brilliant video. I assumed that BB was only to balance tyre wear and where you prefer your main braking force. Tried it in GT7. Almost a second per lap quicker. Many thanks. Like deployed & subscribed
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, cheers for taking the time to watch and comment
@MegaIronica
@MegaIronica 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching a lot of video on BB and whenever I thought I understood it, it escapes me. With your video however, it all fell in place. Something about your structure made it very simple. I hope this is only one of many videos to come about sim racing set up tutorials in general because if they are done the same way, I would be a very happy sim racer 😊
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I've done many tutorials like this so check them all out in my Playlists
@sird4vy501
@sird4vy501 10 ай бұрын
A video on differentials would be amazing too. ❤
@boijorzee
@boijorzee 6 ай бұрын
Great video. I started messing about with break bias a while ago and it does sometimes help. But in hectic racing scenario's it can proof too much for me to handle and it becomes more of a "set it and forget it" thing.
@JoaoSousa-cb1sl
@JoaoSousa-cb1sl 2 жыл бұрын
The only video one will ever need about brake bias. Amazing job, mate!
@drumbri
@drumbri 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent job you have done with this video. Thank you. The work you put into the screenshots of the cars performing the way you’re describing is outstanding! I’m going to share this with several of my friends who like me are trying to learn how to add more skills and techniques to our Sim racing.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, great to hear!
@combatwombat594
@combatwombat594 10 ай бұрын
Definitely gonna be lowering my BB after watching this. I've found that it helps me feel better with the car, but given the explanation of the video, I've just gone way too far. If I bring it down just 1%, I can probably improve a bit more. I've gotten over a second faster on most tracks in the last year just trying to break bad habits and use every bit of track available, and this will definitely be a new tool in the arsenal
@proxymvp4738
@proxymvp4738 2 жыл бұрын
The best explanation for brake bias that I have ever seen! Great video you earned yourself a sub for that! I've been simracing for 1,5years now and i've never touched the brake bias before i've always just loaded in a setup from a setup shop and didn't change a thing.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, glad you found it helpful and thanks for the sub - it's a big deal indeed!
@rickthomas9894
@rickthomas9894 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you! I 've been challenging myself to vary Brake Bias before watching this video, but was overdoing it. Like going 4 or 5 % from my starting bias, usually reducing the front til I got the spins. Then I would gingerly and slowly start to increase it. I learned from your video. Single percent up or down. This will, I think, help with my consistency. Thanks agai!
@W4RM4NTuBe
@W4RM4NTuBe 8 ай бұрын
This was great information. The tip to use it on first lap is gold! Never thought to use it first lap. I usually just lay back and take it easy. I'm going to try to gain back some of that time now!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 8 ай бұрын
Thanks man - sometimes that little nudge of balance on the first lap or two can really save you
@shmaxtv
@shmaxtv Жыл бұрын
Incredible video. Never thought I'd be able to understand the more advanced mechanics but it's so simple. Cheers
@Russxm
@Russxm 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title while scrolling I had to check whole made the vid, I saw danny and I knew I was in. Just started 3 months and this was massive bro thank you.
@googlreviews7813
@googlreviews7813 6 күн бұрын
What an awesome video. Thank you for that. I am playing on PC Controller and AMS2 is my game of choice, but Controller is tricky, I can't wait to give these settings a try.
@motochris26ify
@motochris26ify 11 ай бұрын
Got DQ’d yesterday in a Formula 1600 Race from a slide out during a battle for the lead 😢 Man I wish I’d had seen this yesterday at work instead of today 😂 Awesome video. Will definitely be implementing brake bias into my racing.
@BeerGeek21
@BeerGeek21 4 ай бұрын
11:21 cheeky advert there
@op_snooze
@op_snooze 2 жыл бұрын
Spoon curve at Suzuka can be helped by increased brake bias, especially because that circuit is so lopsided.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Good example - Spoon curve is just evil
@chrismcmillen6828
@chrismcmillen6828 11 ай бұрын
“You don’t need to knows the ins and out on HOW it works, just that it DOES” damn straight.
@SieTeppischfresser
@SieTeppischfresser 11 ай бұрын
When i took a physics class in high school the teacher asked me when youre more likely tp shock someone when you touch them. I replied, "when its cold." When he asked why, "i dont know, i just noticed thats when it happens more often." He said, "thats the correct answer!" Then he went on to explain it, of course.
@mauriceroijen7486
@mauriceroijen7486 Жыл бұрын
Probable THE video every (new) simracer was waiting for. Great video with christal clear explanations. Thank you so much Danny. The clip about trail braking was also an eye opener for me. Thnx again.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for taking a second to leave such a lovely comment! The sort of words you can really butter your toast with.
@dallinvanshaar5419
@dallinvanshaar5419 6 ай бұрын
Yo thanks for the video! Clearest explanation i have found. Most videos they dart around and just do a simple explanation while also not providing any sort of example so im just left confused! Thank you for helping me finally understand it way better
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the feedback - I really hope it helps you out as you go
@SamuelCoker369
@SamuelCoker369 4 ай бұрын
Watched many other videos and couldn’t get my head around it. However thanks to you I now understand. Thanks
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 4 ай бұрын
Thanks man, that's the sort of comment that gets me out of my seat and go stick the kettle on in satisfaction
@jasmijnariel
@jasmijnariel Жыл бұрын
Thx man, i always tought i felt understear, while trail braking... it was just too much weight in front while braking
@makavelisreturn86
@makavelisreturn86 3 ай бұрын
Been brought to your channel from catching a few of your shorts in my feed, really informative and professional really appreciate the training session, subbed thanks
@wolff_
@wolff_ 2 жыл бұрын
This video just got me a pole and win on the gt4 fixed. It COMPLETELY changed the cayman, thank you Danny
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@TheGoose2133
@TheGoose2133 7 ай бұрын
I remember months back we had a race A at Monza in the McLaren P1, that race was pure carnage. Then once again we had the Honda RA272 at Monza as well. Both races were absolute carnage but fun
@MrHaggyy
@MrHaggyy 10 ай бұрын
Brake Bias is also a mighty tool to get your tires in the right temperature window. If you start with cold tires you want something that's "50:50%", so each tire gets equally heated. This kind of depends on the car, Mercedes and BMW have more weight on the front so more help on the rear is needed, Audi is well balanced, McLaren or Porsche need help a tthe front. It also depends on the track. If you have long fast corners you need to watch rear, if you have a long straight or slow corners your front might get too cold. Once the tires have reached their window and you can keep them in it, you can use BB for performance only. Or you start easing of the load from the hot tire onto the cold, so you can extend your stint longer into the race. That's really crucial in endurance racing where too much rubber on one tire means you didn't used all of the potential grip you carried around all stint. But like everything in racing this has it's limits. In Mugello and Barcelona it's impossible to keep the front left alive until you used your rightside tires. And at the Nordschleife or in Dubai you have most likely cooked your left rear first. But at shorter tracks you can gain a lap per stint and at long tracks like Nordschleife or LeMans you can preserve tracktion for the long straights. On any track you can use BB offensively to trailbrake longer to get the move done under braking ( higher value, faster for longer), or you preheat your rear for better traction (lower value, outdrag your opponent out of a corner). In similar fasion you could use it defensively to counter the door. But this is a double edge sword as it makes you vulnerable to the unsuspected attack and costs you laptime. ^^ best defense is always just to be faster.
@john_hawley
@john_hawley Жыл бұрын
0% milk in my coffee, 0% milk in my cuppa. AGGRESSIVE SETUP
@Glut2Tube
@Glut2Tube 10 ай бұрын
You got my like half way in the video. Great job explaining this!
@Trekari
@Trekari 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve many more subs, Danny. Thank you for everything you do.
@TheRealPlato
@TheRealPlato 2 жыл бұрын
thx for upload, would love to see your attempts at Dirt Rally 2.0 and a blogpost following up on ham/ver haters
@bigal1968ful
@bigal1968ful 2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of brake bias on the internet. Well done and thank you.
@craigmathews6836
@craigmathews6836 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! Simply explained and really informative. Probably the best I’ve seen. This is going to make a big difference to the way I drive on track. Thanks, keep up the great work.
@awsomef2004
@awsomef2004 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the shift brake bias rearwards to stop at hairpins. The reason brake bias is sent forwards (beyond stability) is weight shifts to the front wheels, and therefore the front wheels can handle more braking force before locking up. Surely in a big braking zone, it makes sense to leave it forwards or even shift it further forward to brake harder and therefore stop faster before locking up?
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
It's all down to the rears being under-utilised in most scenarios because pushing them to the limit of grip makes the car very unstable going into corners. If you're braking in a straight line, however, you don't need that safety margin and can ask for the rears to do a bit more work without fear of spinning out. Best thing to do is try it and see what you think!
@suhdud4646
@suhdud4646 Жыл бұрын
So much time can be had purely because of braking. Im been learing to "feel" car alot more and looking at BB to aid that learning curve. My general race craft and pace is quite good but my braking leaves alot to be desired. What I also tend to do is if the brake zone is going up a hill, I will set my BB forward by 1-2 and going downhill I set it to the rear by 1-2. Going up or down in a brake zone already has the weight shifted to that orientation and the BB helps neutralize that already shifted weight.
@tonesnaps
@tonesnaps 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! Thank you so much! Keep releasing content. There way you explain things is great and you don’t put weird vocal effects or pronunciation to sound more “professional” thank you for being you.
@zachdoran10
@zachdoran10 2 жыл бұрын
great video, i change BB an absolute ton on every single lap pretty much
@JoshuaBorrow
@JoshuaBorrow 10 ай бұрын
Also worth mentioning brake balance adjustments can be gradient-dependent as the weight balance of the car can shift.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 10 ай бұрын
Definitely - fuel burn can affect the behaviour of the car all by itself
@vandrayketv1316
@vandrayketv1316 10 ай бұрын
Wow this is the best BB video ever made
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, man
@haebu
@haebu 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i needed to learn yet i didnt even know that i needed it. Thanks for the video!
@jedijon1228
@jedijon1228 2 жыл бұрын
Great content Danny BB explained perfectly...
@your_bus_driver9527
@your_bus_driver9527 Жыл бұрын
Came in handy for the N24h 😂
@blakesmith141
@blakesmith141 9 ай бұрын
Great job explaining and giving multiple examples. This was really helpful!
@BlueDemonGabi
@BlueDemonGabi 2 жыл бұрын
I've learned it easily when in f2 on f1 21 when i started sliding around under braking.
@antoine78150
@antoine78150 Жыл бұрын
Very goog and clear explanation of BB. Could you elaborate a little about BB and FWD cars vs RWD ? Thanks
@spaceyamgaming
@spaceyamgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great advice! I knew decreasing brake bias would assist with turn-in but had no idea what percentages I should be using :)
@DrR1pper
@DrR1pper 11 ай бұрын
The reason you're finding a bit more lap time by lowering the brake bias is because you're suffering from setup induced understeer, namely, too much rear wing. You're trying to alleviate said understeer by depriving the rear tyres of their ability to produce as much cornering force by placing greater braking demand on the rear tyres which then robs cornering force production. But as you've pointed out, it runs the very high risk of irrecoverably losing the rear. This is a solution to the problem but not the ideal solution as it lowers overall cornering speed carry potential. The ideal solution is to decrease the rear wing. Then you will no longer need to dangerously drop the BB.
@DrR1pper
@DrR1pper 11 ай бұрын
The irrecoverable oversteer issue under braking is what we see of Sergio Perez who (relative to Max) prefers understeer which he gets with more rear wing and is a late as possible braker. And Max never experiences this issue because he doesn't suffer from the inherent understeer issue and is a softer and earlier braker, favouring a longer trail braking phase so he can build up to a larger yaw rate peak by his apex.
@intraphase
@intraphase 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video this is clearest I have seen brake bias explained thank you
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it, thanks for watching and commenting!
@doug_vickers
@doug_vickers 2 жыл бұрын
A great video Danny. It took me a while to understand the difference brake bias makes to the handing and braking. I probably don't use it as much as I should to be honest. I certainly remember the races at Hockenheim and Fuji where you had the spins. I thought you were doing it on purpose to make me feel better at my poor driving ability.😉 Keep up the good work matey.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Doug - At this point I'm like a fat football coach, I like to think I can teach folks the ways, but I'm a tiny bit out of practice myself in terms of execution...
@Simlife101
@Simlife101 Жыл бұрын
46k views Sim racing is growing so much and I love it.
@ysimracing
@ysimracing 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree is the easiest explanation so far.thank you
@trentnolan8982
@trentnolan8982 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video, thanks for making this! Would you consider a similar video covering other common in-car adjustments. Particularly ARB? I'm mostly curious about how you may make these adjustments over the course of a tire stint.
@nephildevil
@nephildevil Жыл бұрын
good point; how does using arb relate to brake bias
@dmstites80
@dmstites80 2 ай бұрын
Just came across this awesome video. Ive had questions about BB but never really cared to learn it. I finally feel like i have a good handle on it. Only question i have is how to use or if it helps to use it while in dirty air?
@brianwelch7975
@brianwelch7975 Жыл бұрын
Second video I watched (and subscribed) great points and detailed explanation . I'm hoping this tip gets me to the A DR in GT7 cause every time I get close I fall back. I'll be sure to watch more keep them coming please and thank you.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, appreciate the kind feedback and I hope it gives you a fresh dose of inspiration! Cheers for the sub!
@frankvanderheide
@frankvanderheide 2 жыл бұрын
Super informative video, mate. I'm always struggling with brake bias. Hopefully now I'll get it dialed in better 👍
@TuckerSimRacing
@TuckerSimRacing 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I’ll be diving into the rest of your content now
@prodentpdrneilmcconnon4428
@prodentpdrneilmcconnon4428 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks for that video man. Great help 👍🏻🥃🥃🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🏁🏁🏁🏁
@davidporeilly1
@davidporeilly1 6 ай бұрын
Thankyou for your video. It was well produced and shared some valuable aspects of brake bias adjustment. However I will add some more vital information and query one or two points. Longitudinal weight shift: is greater in the BIG stopping zones. You brake harder for longer so the fronts are more weighted and so can handle more retardation. So it's in those where its more important to move bias fwds. Failure to do so leaves too much retardation to the rears that get lighter hence lockups. As such I disagree with your Hockenheim Hairpin example where you advise moving rearwards. The braking distance will be best when all 4 tyres are loaded to their maximum potential. So we are not in agreement that moving it rearward helps braking distance. On cold tyres on opening laps the weight shift is less as total grip/retardation is less so the movement of bias is ALWAYS rearward. As tyres grip up it moves fwds again. This is why the fronts normally lock up on cold tyres. Same principle when moving to harder/softer tyre compounds. The more tyre grip, the more fwds and vice versa. Worn tyres same. Tyre management: move bias away from the end that's wearing more or needs protection. Handling balance management: On this we are agreed. Fwds means understeer, rearward means oversteer. However IMO this is a feature to be used in partial braking zones vs big stopping zones. Finally the theory: The reason handling management works like this is that by tasking either end with less (longitudinal) braking duties frees up some more of the tyres finite contact patch for (lateral) cornering duties. So moving bias to one end makes that end corner less well. So fwds = understeer rearward = oversteer. Armed with this knowledge drivers can move bias within a lap and within a stint to optimise braking tyre wear and handling balance.
@matthew-jy5jp
@matthew-jy5jp 8 ай бұрын
You do a very good job explaining things. Thank you for doing it in a way people can understand better. I learn a lot about sim racing and at the same time learn about real racing as well.
@jaysway007
@jaysway007 2 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaam.....now thats an exceptionaly great explanation😁👍 Thank you 😉
@eugenehvorostyanov2409
@eugenehvorostyanov2409 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir. Very well explained indeed.
@riff1964
@riff1964 2 жыл бұрын
Good instruction ... Baby Tea improved my consistency around Le Mans.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
Le Mans is a great example! I always use baby tea from the Porsche Curves right up until I drive past KFC. Then it's Builder's Tea for the heavy braking zones for the chicanes. Changing the bias twice per lap makes driving Le Mans so much more confident
@adambrandt1858
@adambrandt1858 Жыл бұрын
You have this completely backwords. Increasing front bias gives you shorter stopping distances and will put more weight over the front tires making more grip to turn in easier. While rear bias will stabilize the car car. Especially while trail braking so you dont spin out because of the extra rotation from trail braking. And those of you that think slip angle is how much the rear steps out under cornering youve been lied to lol. Theres no such thing. Slip angle is physical property of tire deformation when turn the wheel and the rim rotates but the tire resists twisting the tire and is know as slip angle. It describes how much angle the tire is twisting from the resistant part thats contacting the road and riesting to turn. What you describe as slip angle is just inducing a little bit of over steer and sliding the tiniest amount and counter steering. This just happens as you increase lap times and speed into a corner naturally. You should not be trying to induce oversteer at a speed which the car isnt doing it on its own. Itll just happen as you get faster. And you know two shits about cars your instict will be to countersteer just a little to keep it from losing it.
@banjoqc
@banjoqc 6 ай бұрын
Solid VERY solid video with great examples! Love your slow mo videos as well! Gg
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, man!
@1st_edition
@1st_edition Жыл бұрын
any thoughts on uphill/downhill braking zones?
@henrybene7319
@henrybene7319 2 жыл бұрын
Another corner for adding BB is the corkscrew at Laguna Seca
@thomsenssimsport
@thomsenssimsport 2 жыл бұрын
Really helped clear up BB for me, thank you! Nice footage from SGN, sadly i have not snuck in :P
@marcinswiostek
@marcinswiostek 8 ай бұрын
Really neat explanation and examples. Thanks!
@chris_black_cupra
@chris_black_cupra 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Tutorial. There are more Factors like what Pedals you running, how much force on the Brake Pedal etc
@CharlesK441
@CharlesK441 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Danny might just pay the store a visit as it less than an hour away from me Much appreciated Great Video
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 жыл бұрын
They're about an hour away from me too yet I've never paid a visit. Having never used a wheelbase above 9nm, it would be nice to sample a full fat Simucube to feel what it's like. If you do go, tell 'em I sentcha.
@RobertHopkinsArt
@RobertHopkinsArt 2 жыл бұрын
What he said (Danny), and consider turning off all "driving aids" in iRacing. Thanks, Danny!
@xPOSTALx
@xPOSTALx Жыл бұрын
Thanks just started sim racing.
@Lofirider
@Lofirider 7 ай бұрын
Great vid!! I know about this but too lqzy to think and adjust during runs. Do you have any guides as to which sections to adjust BB for tracks?
@keeef23
@keeef23 2 жыл бұрын
You are the master at explanation! Thanks 😊
@dano824501
@dano824501 Жыл бұрын
Definitely using this on Watkins Glen bus stop
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
Ask the bus driver to think about this at the bus stop
@memoNo1719
@memoNo1719 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice explained! 👍💪 Thank you very much! 👍
@1hp-team343
@1hp-team343 Жыл бұрын
didnt understand, and now i feel like i can teach abt it, thank you very much
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you so much for leaving your thoughts. Always pleasant
@schmiddy8433
@schmiddy8433 10 ай бұрын
Brake bias doesn't make the stopping distance longer, in most cases it does the exact opposite. The amount of brake bias needed depends on the speed of the corner, elevation changes, and how slow the front suspension is, especially with a fast rear suspension (yes fast, as in how quickly it rebounds, not how firm it is. these are often correlated, firm being faster, however they are not the same parameters and are affected by dampeners) These 3 factors all affect how much weight is placed on each respective tire. Braking hard at high speed, braking down hill, and braking with a slow front suspension all result in significant weight being applied to the front wheels while being offloaded from the back wheels. This means that if maximum braking force is applied at 50 bias in one of these scenarios the rear wheels will lock significantly more easily than the front wheels because there is less traction due to the offloading of weight from the rear. As a result your braking potential is limited by the lowest common denominator: the braking potential of the back wheels. If you shift this bias forward you can get more braking power down on the asphalt and thereby slow down quicker. braking up hill, and braking with a very firm suspension benefit from a lower brake bias. If you watch a car brake vigorously uphill with a softer suspension you can often visually notice that the car will go from sagging at the rear to nearly perfectly balanced on both ends in braking which is part of why its so much easier to brake uphill (gravity pulling you down helps too). Braking in a turn with high front bias CAN cause more instability due to the fact that the front of the car wants to slow down more than the rear resulting in the front of the car becoming a pivot point. Braking with a really firm suspension just generally doesnt benefit as much from front brake bias because the weight shift is much much less. One cool trick with front wheel drive cars headed into a sharp turn is to tap the brakes so that the weight shift takes place and the front wheels have more traction to pull the car into the turn as you accelerate out, when you do this right it can take a turn that feels like a low traction corner and make it feel like you're on rails. on 4wd vehicles it's harder to maintain that frontal loading in order to improve cornering so front brake bias can help to force more weight to the front so that the turning wheels receive more traction while accelerating. Rally drivers use this technique a lot.
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