This keyboard has the secret to good sounds. (thock)

[@ALANatWork]

The warp on that spacebar is crazyyyyyyy. Banana spacebar gang!

[@kiko1764]

Yesirrrr

[@3ildcat]

Whenever I hear EC switch sounds, it feels like an expensive membrane lol Nice review as always, Hipyo! FYI, I've tried Topre and NIZ EC keyboards and they were just not my taste. I don't mean they are bad :3

[@HipyoTech]

I definitely didn't like them at first! There's something about them that feels really good on my sore fingers from rock climbing, like a cloud ☁️

[@blakesichel8596]

What's your daily driver switches?

[@thumbwarriordx]

Your average mediocre rubber dome is punching even with Alps dampened tactiles in raw feel. Snappier rubber domes are just god tier over any dampened tactile. Plus these won't spring ping, THE MOST offensive sound when the rest of your keyboard is quiet.

[@toasty6986]

@@HipyoTech bruh rubber domes hurt my hands how.

[@RazorIance]

@@thumbwarriordx My Topre Realforce R2 gets spring rattle stock, had to lube them so they stuck to the PCB.

[@Lucas-ro6zf]

"I don't like yellow very much" * yellow table in shot *

[@HipyoTech]

I really don't, I almost reshot this whole video lmao

[@kevin9120]

@@HipyoTech Big late but I'm curious as to why you have a yellow table then

[@pudimafterall]

@@HipyoTech can i have your yellow table lol

[@swmedianz]

@@pudimafterall it’s just a yellow mousepad or piece of card lol

[@hockeyskates2637]

@@HipyoTech can I have you

[@Juiceboxdan72]

I appreciate your open-mindedness! Folks like you are probably why so many of us moved away from Cherry MX switches. I've been looking to try something like this, thanks for the video!

[@serene4566]

The sound on this boards just nuts, i really like the look of this new polycarb one than their previous plastic cased ones as well :D

[@shmickbs1062]

I always get excited when I see a Hipyo video, but then I realize it’s a premier

[@HipyoTech]

:(

[@ryanxu9983]

What are wrong with premiers?

[@your_average_cultured_dude]

@@ryanxu9983 you have to wait for them and can't watch right away

[@ogznog]

This makes me so happy! I got really into mechanical keyboards but ended up landing on the x87 and loved it. I just got an x108 with the 45g membranes and it's even better. I'd love to see more Niz/Topre content from your channel.

[@sviz]

Beautiful shots hipyo, this board does certainly intrigue me

[@i_am_acai]

I naively thought "isn't MECHANICAL" meant cheap

[@sakuriosky1573]

That moment when I thought i found my ‘endgame’ keeb until this video 🤣😩

[@anthonyapm]

Got my niz atom66 today and I love it. After trying a ton of mechanical keebs for programming this was the first one that immediately felt great to type on straight out the box..

[@Incognit05]

Although I live by mechanical, I've sworn by EC/membrane forever. I'm a nurse, and I LOVE when I get to use the keyboards that have membranes. This video is what I've needed for so long.

[@hinczykus]

wdym membranes? xD Membrane is a different form of a pcb, did you mean rubber domes?

[@funknugget6334]

been using niz EC keyboards for a year and i love them. will never go back to cherry switches and feel the same way.

[@shadowcore94]

Fyi the rubber is just for return, the actual actuation is done by the spring, but not via contacts but instead, you guessed it, electrocapacitively, so not full press like on a rubber dome is needed. (Thats also how the new realforce boards allow a variable actuation of 1.5mm - 3mm iirc)

[@Keybored]

Always love your editing skills Hipyo! Motivates me to do a better job lol. Some support your way to please the overlords!

[@HipyoTech]

Thanks!! I love your vids as well!!

[@BrakkoJanus]

I actually just bought a Niz Plum Micro 82, typing on it right now. I like it A LOT, it's really like typing on a cloud like they say. Now it's not mechanical and it does not have the same feedback, but for a translator like me who literally types all day long for work, this is a very comfortable experience.

[@Numquamnonparatus320]

You were the chosen one, you were supposed to help destroy the dome keyboards, not join them

[@refragged]

I recently got the Niz Plum x87. I'll never use anything but EC switches from now on. It's bliss.

[@casperguo7177]

Bought a 68, redid the stabs a bit and put on some high quality keycaps. Haven’t been on r/mk for a long time now hahaha

[@somethingwitty4237]

My daily has been the Niz 68 for school! Awesome video! The 82 concept is interesting

[@Atokinox]

i also think that 75% is the best layout because its compact so you can game with it and it has all the keys that you would need

[@huukhangnguyen4650]

I have one of these (the micro 82 one) and I love it so much more when I changed to a heavier dome and lubed the board. It would be much much better imo when you lube the sliders,rails and the spring underneath the rubber dome with a thin layer of 105.

[@ccost]

*board on a yellow surface* "i dont like yellow very much"

[@phionfire]

I really like this board, waiting to see reviews of the final product

[@jon1867]

I have a niz, it feels and sounds incredible. I use a split keyboard though as my daily driver, with obnoxiously loud box jades.

[@casperguo7177]

Box jades are pretty much a 15-meter radius force shield that blocks out all living things…

[@sirolt]

9:12 sounds like one of those Rick and morty commericials

[@JazzBeDamned]

I need a 10-hour version of voice-over Hipyo

[@OriginEnjoyer]

60% is better than 75. My reasonings: 1. what do you really do anymore with arrow keys where they can't bothered to be bound on a 2nd layer gk61 style? 2. WAY easier to find WAY more variety of keycap sets :) only downside to this is you need to memorize your 2nd layer. 3. less space. even though it's just one row, that'd still cut a lot of mouse room out of really tight setups like mine. 4. you don't have to worry about hitting the wrong keys potentially like with some 75% boards out there. (some have some really confusing layouts, dunno what that's about) this has been my hot take :D

[@colinhendry6116]

chyrosan22 has an awesome video about what is a mechanical keyboard, and honestly elctro-capacitive switches are just as mechanical as mx switches

[@hinczykus]

the only non mechanical keyboards are the touchscreens or (weird) laser keyboards - and other similar ones. I dont think anyone will debate on this

[@dhoffnun]

I've been curious about Niz for a minute now anyway - and this one looks even more interesting. Thanks for covering it!

[@habibikhader]

Hipyo: I dont like yellow Also Hipyo: has yellow mousepad

[@flawlessed1564]

Sounds like membrane with extra steps

[@Lord_Mad_Dog]

i love clear tech. prison tech aesthetic is cool to me for whatever reason. not really a topre guy though so probably wont get the board, especially since the monstargear xo has a pc version out, but it does look really nice

[@keagan5379]

Lowkey prefer these topre clones over the real thing lol

[@AugustBooth]

pun intended?

[@keagan5379]

@@AugustBooth lol not at all

[@_indrid_cold_]

Ever hear the one-liner specialist, Stewart Francis? Well, he wants his voice back.

[@ccxu4764]

Big fan of most of the hardware under the epomaker umbrella. The one thing I WISH they would do is to support QMK on their non-bluetooth models. (or ZMK on their bluetooth ones) With VIA, most casual users can map the layout that cover 90% use cases. For enthusiasts, we can use the advance features like mod-tap, tap-dance, one-shot modifier, etc etc. Such a waste since most of their boards have very powerful ARM MCUs, while many $200+ QMK custom boards use low power AVR MCUs. If they support QMK, I would just get their $100 TKL and forget about custom keyboards (for work).

[@random_birch_forest]

The sound from that is so much better than from any MX-style board tbh

[@imfromfloridayouwontunders8315]

I want this so bad it looks so clean would like to chuck some 9009 on this thing.

[@MrRobbyvent]

thats why I'm only for blue clicky mechanical switches. No compromise!

[@lw8882]

I had a niz EC board back when they first came out and were like $169 USD instead of 250-350. The stabs on it were excellent and extremely well lubed. That's always been a thing niz has done REALLY well. EDIT: Oh ok the bluetooth module and rgb cost 100 usd that's why I thought they were expensive. Cause they are :(

[@aidanmclamb3966]

i like the sound of the rubber dome like EC switches. they make squish type noise that is pretty funny btu cool

[@geoffreyyu5163]

I really hope that it comes with variable weighting domes. Imo that's the best feature of realforce keyboard.

[@pand4man742]

“If you don’t know what that is, you’re in the right place!” Me: “yes help”

[@jo1dg201]

Helped u get out of the yellow void!

[@christophergreer6705]

reject clack, return to membrane

[@YuzukuKudamonoCH]

Hipyo stuck in a yellow room... T H E B A C K R O O M S ? ? ? ?

[@Snug_GodLovesYou]

When u accidentally do a perfect Justin Roiland impression...

[@alexjonestheoneandonlybones]

Can we get a hippo rock climbing video?

[@198Immortal]

3:25 didnt know you could open up the space bar like that :o

[@GOTTHEDAWGINME]

What do you mean open up? It's just taking the keycap off, you can do that on any board.

[@198Immortal]

@@GOTTHEDAWGINME as in, pulling the keycap off in that fashion. I always did it differently, in an inefficient way. Sorry for bad english

[@GOTTHEDAWGINME]

@@198Immortal Oh I do that too so I didn't understand

[@PinotNoir_]

my first "Proper" keyboard is msi DS4200 Mecha Feel (Rubber dome) Gaming keyboard, i say proper because i only use my laptop keyboard before and it's trash.. it's definitely a huge improvement from my laptop keyboard, and the stabs is pretty good (no rattle), but i sell it and buy a mechanical keyboard and it's cheaper than those msi ds4200.... the stabs have a lot of rattle, but i fix it with holee mods and band aid mods...

[@DiamondPickCraft]

Keyboard sponsorship starter kit be like, say it’s your daily driver

[@HipyoTech]

Not sponsored! Just provided the board for review

[@raydominiqueterre7462]

Wow! That is thocky!

[@Donbros]

Hey that was shameless plug for BUY YOUR FRIENDS XD

[@TheAcesShow]

Having both, Niz EC is a lot nicer than Topre Silent, the sound and the feel are just way better.

[@Jarx246]

Price is actually $300 for case, additional $135+ for keyboard internals, depending on which version you get

[@dv3rsion_495]

I agree spaced 75% is best of tkl and 60/65% cause it’s small and has f row and arrow keys.

[@franciscoaliaga9698]

thank you josh

[@sleepyartsstudent874]

EC boards are incomplete without the insanely tactile aftermarket domes.

[@Pelle.frederiks]

Vote hipyo tech for best and most calming voice

[@lmbtcs1879]

My abko 55g kn10 feels awsome, its uses niz 55g electro capacitive switch, its full size, macro programmable, has rgb and usb c and also adjustable actuation height. What more could you ask for???

[@TheBigJoshi]

Hot swap. Lol

[@xenon2561]

@@TheBigJoshi how tf do you want hotswap on electro-capacitive switches ? Maybe think before you write your comment

[@lmbtcs1879]

@@TheBigJoshi dang you right imma throw it out now

[@andykxu]

@@TheBigJoshi u makin no sense rn bro there are no soldering in electro-capacitive... you can easily pop the switches out....

[@TheBigJoshi]

@xenon04 just joking, chill out 🤗 ik that that’s not possible

[@SofaKingAwesome23]

Did you guys know that Hipyo Tech rock climbs

[@smoloms]

I do quite like the Niz EC boards. I know they aren’t gonna be for everyone though

[@semaphore_74]

Im interested in topres now. But also Dream cheated in Minecraft??

[@hammers1594]

niz has some other 75% offerings that are a good deal imo. I used to run a really compact one before I broke it. typing this on one that has 2 fn layers, super handy for productivity

[@casperguo7177]

The built in mouse control is godly

[@kira64xyz]

i own multiple custom mechs, yet i still prefer my old thinkpads membrane keyboard over all of them

[@r.5813]

And there we have it, folks: the best sounding keyboards are $20 domes.

[@mjghsh]

80% is the best size, it has all the things of a 75% but it doesnt squish everything and require special keycaps for the shift key

[@TwskiTV]

I like the keys squished together so I can reach the arrow keys and home/end with my pinkie even leaving the home row. The non standard LShift is true, but most sets are incluiding those because of the recent rise in popularity of 65% and 75%

[@thejusmar]

Basically it's the Realforce RGB but in a smaller format

[@joshuadawes7032]

I like 75%. More of a fan of 65%, but really don't like 60% (I NEED arrow keys at work, and really don't like bothering with a function layer to have them).

[@crocobye]

Tbh I used a kind of rubber dome keyboard for a year and I still have it but don't use it anymore since it's full sized and don't really like it anymore, I liked the keyboard that you reviewed and I would love to try sometime a high end rubber dome keyboard just to see how it feels compared to a cheap one. Dream Cheated in Minecraft?

[@JuniorCasipe2424]

Whos dream?

[@crocobye]

@@JuniorCasipe2424 a minecraft youtuber

[@JuniorCasipe2424]

@@crocobye that?

[@crocobye]

@@JuniorCasipe2424 that people say he cheated in minecraft

[@JuniorCasipe2424]

@@crocobye what does he play

[@RitzyBusiness]

Wish it were easier to these higher end rubber domes like topre, but it's way too expensive. That said a good tactile rubber domes beats mushy ones anyday. Like my 8bitdo controller has some crunchy rubber domes that destroy the dualsense.

[@askdavidsen]

wait a minute. Am i the only one that hears the static buzzing high pitch shound? It's really quiet but It's def there. It's really easy to hear it at 10:03

[@HipyoTech]

It's there. I choose to leave my audio unedited to not alter the sound of the boards.

[@askdavidsen]

@@HipyoTech Oh okay. It's not too bad though

[@gavin758]

Well done for not referring to to it as a membrane board, because membrane ≠ rubber dome. Also, 1800 is best layout. Fight me.

[@HipyoTech]

I've made that mistake before 😭

[@Deac0n_Blues]

Been waiting for this video after I saw you in the niz discord

[@flowting5163]

When do you think this keyboard will be availiable for the public? I am really excited to get my hands on those

[@HipyoTech]

Next few days probably

[@flowting5163]

@@HipyoTech thx

[@RobinJamesEricBond]

So... Do I fight you about the 75% layout even if I agree?

[@HipyoTech]

If you want I guess

[@RobinJamesEricBond]

@@HipyoTech nah, I much prefer to just agree with you and have a nice bottle of water 👍🏽

[@urielalbertosanchezm]

Compare it to a membrane with mechanical feel

[@gobiku2725]

Yooo i can finally be on a premiere once it comes out!! Btw love u hipyo

[@franciscoespi820]

oh f*ck, my keeb just got humiliated

[@CinceTheDay]

I dunno but if it's rubber, it's gonna deteriorate, right?

[@pcmrfl4475]

Soooooo... it’s literally just a Gucci version of rubber domes. One of the top keyboard review channels doesn’t even daily drive mechanicals anymore.

[@swmedianz]

He daily drives an idobao id80 now lol

[@kenonoffee]

the fact this is only a prototype

[@Diinzie]

“Please listen to stop signs” nevahhhhhhhh but legit what a nifty lil board

[@i11umina]

not mechanical? this is a crime me using a broken laptop keyboard

[@adilkhalifa8489]

for me it sounds nice and not at the same time. but i think thats just a personal thing

[@dkm1915]

you really can hear the o rings tho that i dont like

[@jackplummer161]

We've come full circle...

[@cascade3032]

"dont like yellow very much"

[@_Murky_]

So quiet 👌

[@coffee1080]

i fucking want this one

[@whosleo4868]

hey hipyo have you tried the akko rose red switches? i would suggest making a video on them

[@nebby2616]

him not liking yellow him having a yellow table !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@HipyoTech]

I hate yellow

[@unkkit151]

Hipyo, does a 60% (65? - fits an acrylic tofu) pcb exist that has split spacebar support, rgb per key, and rgb underglow? I know the GK64x does, anything with VIA support? Thanks man!

[@matsigh]

I hate the look but I really like the sound. Also hate that dream cheated in minecraft?

[@lucasskotiniotis1360]

What do you think would be better: 35g or 45g? I prefer light keyboards in general, is 35g too light?

[@HipyoTech]

I prefer 35g

[@catoflado4977]

If you dont like yellow Very much why do you have a yellow desk?

[@eggnog16]

tldr: $300 for rubber domes

[@dfsstuff6572]

keycaps aren't prototype, all ec boards by niz use them

[@_E1_]

But is it north facing or south facing hmm...

[@hatsunehatsunemikumikumiku]

to me it kinda sounds like a scratchy tactile

[@layneramirezz1402]

Question, what is the subscriber goal that you wanna hit in your KZbin career

[@HipyoTech]

1m and I can die happy