THIS LEAGUE Changes EVERYTHING!!! ULTIMATE POOL LEAGUE Amateur Match!!!

[@drewvonporte]

Tell me what you think of this format?? Is this something you’d be interested in having as a league option for you??? DISCLAIMER: I am not 100% on how our league will work, regarding the “Race To” format. Here, we played to the end of the clock to kind of see how many games we would get to in 30 minutes? But I BELIEVE there will be a race to roughly 3 with a negative handicap to the higher ranked player. DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THIS!!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Unfortunately @Drew Von Porte, you are not the first amateur to cover Ultimate Pool. In San Antonio Texas, there is an Ultimate Pool League and they have coverage from the @BackwardsBilliards KZbin channel.

[@jfkansas5508]

It's not a race to three. Most games I did in a 30min match was a tie 4/4, I should have won it 4/3 but was new to format and failed to run the clock out.

[@2wheelTaylor]

Intresting rule I heard come up in a pro match with Bergman, apparently if the cue ball flies off the table on the break and fouls it’s ball in hand anywhere on the table.

[@drewvonporte]

@@LilChrisPoolPlayer well that’s what I get for not being in the loop 😅🤦🏻‍♂️ thanks! I’ll check it out!

[@Elite7555]

That's why I absolutely love Ultimate Pool. Makes matches a lot less tedious. But most amateur players hate it

[@drewvonporte]

Gotta make decisions quick! Not for the standard issue amateur player 😎

[@Poolside_Chat]

WOW! Man... the quality of video you're producing is nothing short of spectacular. Well done my man! You're inspiring me to produce a better product. And while thanks for the shout-out, I also curse you for beating me to UP! Granted, I'm starting an Ultimate Team so next year, I'll get more of this going.

[@drewvonporte]

Thanks Todd!!!! Maybe our future date will be to the tune of UPL 👀………..!

[@Poolside_Chat]

@ don’t threaten me with a good time. But I say 2 videos. Own UP, one Masters. $10k in the middle. Loser sells rights of their channel to the other. And first born is named after winner. Or we can just play for content and fun.

[@drewvonporte]

…….. I’ve always loved the name “Todd”

[@Poolside_Chat]

@ ❤️

[@dannyb615]

Great video Drew, nice shooting & CLUTCH at the end. Nice shooting. Hopefully UPL comes to NYC too. Looks like fun!

[@drewvonporte]

Thank you Danny boy!!!! I appreciate that!!! It’s definitely an exciting spin on 8-ball!

[@JamesPlaysPool]

@@dannyb615 where do you play in NYC??

[@dannyb615]

@@JamesPlaysPool Society Billiards. How about you?

[@JamesPlaysPool]

@ same! League on Fridays and Sundays

[@dannyb615]

@@JamesPlaysPool Mondays & Wednesdays for me! Small world. Do you play in the APA too?

[@smellslikeproductions]

I love watching ultimate pool. I love playing fast. Just focus on the feel and never think on shots. If I miss, I’ll slow down and think what I did wrong

[@drewvonporte]

Haha I won’t go as far as “never think”… but I do like putting pressure and a time limit on your time to make a decision!! Makes it more like our American sports! Tom Brady had 3-4 seconds to analyze his options. Same as Michael Jordan at the top of the key🐐

[@Tracer414]

Hey Drew. Nice video man. Try this on your next break. Start with the cue ball 5 inches out from a long rail, even with the first diamond, on the right side of the table. Hit the first ball dead on. More often than not you'll make a ball on the break. Give it a try.

[@drewvonporte]

This is not the first time Ive heard of this position!! I’ll try it man, cheers 👊🏼👊🏼

[@kyoung1959]

Awesome, and very exciting! Thanks for sharing

[@drewvonporte]

Thanks Kirk! 👊🏼👊🏼

[@SuperGreyfox99]

I really like the 30 sec clock. Things move along and keeps my interest in the game.

[@drewvonporte]

I 100% agree

[@davidbriley1081]

Just subscribed and enjoy the videos Drew!! Thanks Dave

[@drewvonporte]

Dave! Welcome onboard man! I appreciate you!!!

[@TheHumanAnonymous]

I've score kept for two SL3s that took 23 innings in a single game. Needless to say the full match was like watching grass grow. I feel your pain brother

[@drewvonporte]

Lollllll weve all been there for those…… again, the skill cap for a team is a lot higher in UPL I believe!!

[@cosc137]

@19:28 Fun video as a novelty, and I am a proponent of faster play as long that it does not diminish quality of play. Although, I do dislike slow play, because my matches can go long if there is a lot of defensive play. I do play APA on 9 footers... I have never really thought about this, but I wonder if average time increases or decreases as tables get larger 🤔

[@drewvonporte]

I bet the time’s longer!!! It was a lot of fun! Really kept to Ry under 200 characters, this video!!! 😱😱😱 maybe I played OK!!!

[@cosc137]

@@drewvonporte With the exception of maybe 1 match a while ago, you always play pretty well. Although I did see a Ron sighting @18:10 . My initial thought was side pocket where you are standing, but when I saw you play for the bottom left corner, I did not think anything of it because it is not the wrong play either. I did see you play at a slight angle because you must have wanted a certain position? Must have been just a loss of focus or your eyes playing tricks on you. Happens to the best of us. Look forward to the next video😊

[@LopingCSF]

A fun watch. I hadn't really looked into UPL so wasn't terribly clear on the rules, so thank you for laying those out. I'm not sure I'd play this format at my level, though. 30 seconds is a really fast shot clock for a guy like me. Who knows, though. Might play around with it with a buddy sometime and see how it feels. As for your question about long matches... My first or second session of APA my team made it to the 8 ball playoffs. First match was 2 4 speeds playing a race to 3. That match took 2 1/2 hours with almost zero defensive play. Both our player and the other guy were taking 2-3 minutes per shot at a minimum. I was shocked the LO didn't come put a foot in somebody's back side.

[@drewvonporte]

That means you go right into sudden death!!! That’s crazy though, I seriously have my own mental blocks and issues when I play people that take long to shoot and move in slow motion…. 30 seconds is longer than you think man! Try it! Thank you sir 👊🏼

[@AdamMarr]

Nice shooting. Would love to try this format. Backwards Billiards will stream UP league and tournys from San Antonio on occasion if you want to see the league play in action, think they have a few videos maybe 3ish months ago. Good group of folks, also have a few 700s out there, including one of the best Jrs in the country Laz M, so you get some good matches on occasion. As for how it works, there at least, I think the spot is 70 fargo (UP score) points per 1 game spot.

[@drewvonporte]

Oh awesome! I’ll check that out! I remember seeing UPL being streamed a while ago, but haven’t seen much since! Idk what the big deal is, me and John are BASICALLY 700’s……….. Thanks Adam 👊🏼 cheers!

[@AdamMarr]

@@drewvonporte lol, don't feel bad, I'm actually in the exact same situation is you, sitting at 620, with a low robustness ~65, simply because there really isn't any fargo stuff here, and probably should more like 600/610 (at least in my area here on the east coast), but it's always fun to watch a few 700~720s going at it. Something to aspire to that isn't quite as unrealistic at the 800 pros.

[@drewvonporte]

@ haha yeah we have a couple 700’s around here. It’s like watching pro play, just they still miss sometimes lol. Glad to hear it wasn’t too painful ! 🤣

[@HillbillyIslandLife]

Love a short shot clock!

[@drewvonporte]

Same!!!! 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

[@bethanyscovill1217]

This looks like a blast!! Might try this with friends at home 🥳

[@drewvonporte]

There are plenty of scorekeeper apps you can download for snooker/pool to tweak to these types of rules! In the big tournaments, once the timer goes under 10 minutes, the shot clock drops to 15 sec a shot 🤯 it makes things REALLY interesting!!! Thank you!!

[@timothyphillips7992]

Hey Drew what did you use on the 10 ball to stay on the long rail and get up to the 12 ball? 31:15 mark in the match

[@drewvonporte]

Dude this is a huge concept that is incredibly easy!!! Go to my videos and check out the video i did on this about HOW TO SHAPE WITH THE SITTING DUCK!!! Long story short: top…. But theres more to it than that 😅

[@JamesPlaysPool]

If you ever want to throw me off my game, just play slow. It makes my (admittedly already very poor) play even worse! Love the new graphics, man. You're making the channel better with every video . Also I loved the shot from the 1 to the 8 in (I think) the 4th rack. Nice touch.

[@drewvonporte]

JB thank you man!!!! It’s a work in progress!!!!! And same. It drives me literally mad

[@JamesPlaysPool]

One of my games on Friday I blew a 2-0 lead to a guy I should be really beating because his slow play put me on tilt. Something I need to work on. Or I could work on not missing so he doesn’t get a chance to play slowly

[@lucienhenderson1188]

Very entertaining!

[@drewvonporte]

Glad you enjoyed Lucien!!! 💪🏼👊🏼💪🏼👊🏼

[@tomhiggins875]

I just watched Gareth Potts wearing a shirt with Ultimate Pool when played he played a 6 ball end game challenge on Stephen Hendry's youtube channel.

[@drewvonporte]

Gareth’s a beast!!!!!

[@shanesmj1]

Excellent enhancements...

[@drewvonporte]

Aiyyo!!!! Thanks mang 👊🏼💪🏼🤙🏼

[@steveellis9026]

I've watched all the Ultimate Pool USA tournaments that have been on KZbin plus the original English Ultimate Pool videos and now yours. I find it interesting to watch, especially when somebody like Chris Mellin (unreal cue ball control) or Tom Cousins is playing, but it's not for me as far as playing goes. However if you choose to construct more matches of it on video I'll be watching. Btw, a general comment, I enjoy watching your videos and I missed them when you laid off after Las Vegas. I also like Josh, Chad, Lil Chris (the original pool video KZbinr). I'll watch anything including On The Snap, Real Amateur Pool, What Comes Next, and Mike Stuckey.

[@drewvonporte]

Chris Melling is my #1 favorite pool player man. Dude is the epitome of SMOOTH! I will be making more UPL videos for sure, mixed in with the APA stuff still! Thank you for the kind comments, Steve 👊🏼

[@PCnineball2333]

I liked it! Always liked a shot clock to speed up the game.

[@drewvonporte]

I’m telling you man…. Slow players are my kryptonite!! This league will move MUCH quicker!

[@saysflushable]

I like the idea of a shot clock. I just wish it was pleasant sounding. Not that terrible beeping or buzzing

[@drewvonporte]

I will say, if John or I got close, we gave a “10 seconds” warning, then a “5…4…3….”.

[@fugglesme4186]

backwards billiards has been showing Ultimate Pool League matches from San Antonio for a long time. very cool format. I would love to play this format, but the local area really can't support another league. The UPL shootout is really cool.

[@drewvonporte]

Ah thats what I’m hearing. Well, at least its a different format. Not live-streaming 😅 Thanks for chiming in Fuggles!! Love the UPL tourneys, pumped to be at one!

[@chrisdirienzo4235]

Loving the new format.

[@drewvonporte]

League? Or Channel? Lol 😅😅 Thanks Chris

[@gregallie0519]

Have you considered breaking from the rail but hitting first ball? SVB usually breaks from the rail in 8 ball on the bar tables.

[@drewvonporte]

Funny. My buddy Bryon from MBM on YT suggested the same thing!! I have a hard time changing much. Look at the spread I’m giving… I still feel like its dumb luck a little that balls arent falling in 😭 Thanks though Greg! You may see one of those type breaks soon!

[@gregallie0519]

@@drewvonporte Yeah, I hear ya. You’re hitting the rack solid. For me, when balls aren’t falling, sometimes I’ll go to more of a pop break. But sometimes I’ll break from the rail just to confuse the pool gods!

[@drewvonporte]

Yes!!! Never let the Gods know your next move!!!!!!!!!! I’m working on the pop break…

[@ShootBetterPool]

Good stuff, I like the shot/match clock speed and the pressure that adds! 8-ball isn't my favorite but the format is sure fun, might have to give it a try!

[@drewvonporte]

It 100% keeps it interesting man!! Thanks!!

[@JerryLee..]

Subscribed. EFG 😅

[@drewvonporte]

EVERYTHING F-ING GOES !!!!!!!

[@procrastinator6902]

That's certainly different and interesting for sure!! I went and watched the Louisiana Open at the beginning of summer since it's relatively close to me and that was alot of fun. Got to see some great playing! I was a bit confused with your disappointment on the early 8 but finally realized that slop on the 8 allowed meant that the 8 didn't have to be called and not the early 8 type slop, like is allowed in 9 ball 😂 Speaking of rule variants, doesn't the 8 rack on the spot in ultimate pool or was that rule unique to the Louisiana Open? By the way, break alignment and contact looked alot better 💯 Now you can play around with speed and cue ball placement and such but getting that square contact dialed in was definitely priority 👊🏻

[@drewvonporte]

Hey thanks man!! Yeah, sloppy 8…. But it’s still 8-ball dude 🤣 Good question about the 8-ball spot…. 🤔 I’m working on the break…. It was better last night. Thanks for the advice man 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼 cheers!

[@procrastinator6902]

@drewvonporte Anytime bro! I don't know a lot but I'm happy to share what little bits I do know 😆 Have you ever seen any of Nate Tam's videos (senseinateplayspool) on KZbin? He has a few videos about breaking on his channel and there's one in particular about breaking on a bar box that I got a few good tips from. That one, or likely any of the others, may help you out some too with the break 👍🏻

[@keithnechetsky8878]

@@drewvonporte 8 ball Spots in Ultimate Pool. You also have a specific way you rack the balls so thay are in the same place every rack. Rules have a diagram of the way you rack.

[@richb8291]

At 17:00 when you had that 9-10 cluster to break out, I like to think I would have used the 11 to break them out either before making the 14. But you were still good going 14, then 13 since you were lined up for it after the 14 went in, then coming back down for the 11 in the side and using medium speed with some follow to get the cue going towards them to softly break them up. You had the 15 to fall back on up table to get back in shape for the 12, and since it wasn't on the rail it could have easily have gone in either pocket. I think you saw that 12 on the rail and got in your head like that was your bigger problem and kind of disregarded the 9-10 cluster. You're a great shot and shouldn't have much issue with a ball close to the rail like that, even if you *think* you will. I've been trying to get stuff like that out of my head and clean up the mental game, it helps!

[@drewvonporte]

You’re right, Rich! Should’ve never gone down that path with the 12-ball like that… those shots have been KILLING me recently!!!!!!! I slow roll them and they come off the rail every time. I need to get into the lab with this 🧠🧠 Thanks for your take on things, Rich, I always appreciate it 👊🏼 thanks dude

[@richb8291]

@@drewvonporte if you're slow rolling you might not be taking throw in to account. One of the biggest changes of my game happened 2 or 3 weeks ago when I watched Dr Dave's recent video about throw and learned how slower cue ball speeds induce more cut angle to the object ball. So if that's what you're noticing, then try hitting a bit thicker on those shots where you're hitting slow and see if it helps, or just hit them a bit harder and thinner where allowed. You might already know all of this, but if not, hope it helps!

[@9BallBory]

I’m a 6 6 in APA, never played anything with Fargo but want to. Any idea what range a 6 6 would be in Fargo?

[@drewvonporte]

It’s………… not that simple…. I know 7’s that are 425, and 6’s that are 430. So maybe 400-500?….. If you never use/see fargo ratings, theyre VERY interesting because 7 caps out wayyy too early in APA. SEVERAL different skillsets within the 7 SL. And Fargo’s fun to see it quantified

[@9BallBory]

@@drewvonporte yea i have been wanting to start using fargo because it changes much more often and you really get to see your improvement of when you are in a down swing.

[@Rickbearcat]

What rules set do you play by and what is the cost(s)? The format is irrelevant if it costs too much and if CSI rules are not in effect.

[@drewvonporte]

Rules are all explained in the first 3 minutes of the video Rick! International 8-ball Rules! Not sure what cost will be 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ we will see!!

[@KevinStewart33]

Love watching Ultimate Pool and would enjoy playing in a league. However, realistically you'd have to be an APA skill level 4 or higher to be able to do it (IMO), and enjoy it - maybe even 5 or higher. Skill level of 3 and below would just take too much time or they'd have to rush and miss even more shots, making games even longer. You 2 played 5 games in 30 minutes. A couple of 2's or 3's playing each other might get in 2 games - and it wouldn't be pretty. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but also depends on the area. We have 71 players in our league. 30 of them are 3's or lower (and we only have one level 7). That being said, I'd welcome a league and I'd join.

[@drewvonporte]

That’s a good thought Kev. I really liked that it “seems” the UPL team skill level cap will be higher than APA, in turn allowing to omit a lot of the

[@kriswood1354]

Just curious, how come you didn’t switch to 15 seconds at 10 minutes left like in UP?

[@drewvonporte]

Dude… I love that rule…. That happens in tournaments (Shootouts, Opens)… but will NOT be a part of regular League play 😭😭 At least not at this time!

[@d4nd31i0n]

It looks fun. Would be nice to get an Ultimate Pool league in my area of Delaware. Another great video Drew.

[@drewvonporte]

Thanks !!! 👊🏼👊🏼 Check out the Ultimate Pool League Players Facebook page! Never know! I’m having trouble linking it in the description right now 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@yianrouien2476]

what size is that table?

[@drewvonporte]

She’s 7 foot. Diamond barbox

[@alvinmotos5925]

looks like Heinsenberg from Breaking Bad

[@drewvonporte]

I’m his Jesse, look out 👀

[@JoeStacks72]

Losen up on ur break shift that weight, ur a better shot than me but u said u struggle to make a ball on the break and its something i practice a lot

[@drewvonporte]

I’ve been workin on it, Joe… little things. Main focus is cue ball contact point, and accuracy at the head ball

[@JoeStacks72]

@ very solid i must say

[@JohnBowl14690]

This game likely won't fly. Just my gut. Slop the 8 is actually a good rule because it usually never determines a match and it makes the game more simple. Shot clock at 40 seconds would be better for amateurs, but who's timing it. Maybe the app?

[@drewvonporte]

There is an app/website for timing that is very straightforward. For a match, you’d need a scorekeeper just watching the cueball. The scoreboard and matches will mostly be streamed online, which could be the next evolution of our game? But we will see! 30 sec was a lot if you ask me but….. Thank you for the feedback!!

[@JohnBowl14690]

@@drewvonporte 👍

[@goba44]

Obviously the "6 red shoot-out" is a learned art - less cue ball movement, medium-soft break, shot selection critical, etc. I remember I used to play Speed Pool with a buddy of mine (which they also played in the UK I think). That was just running a rack of 10 ball (I think) and seeing who got the lower time. Chris Melling was killer at that too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/naC6f3d5bdiXqNk

[@drewvonporte]

Yes!! We used to do this all the time! All about stop shots!! CLEARLY I’m not trained in it!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Love Chris!!!

[@twitterbird7372]

You have to wear the sign for missing ball in hand shot.

[@drewvonporte]

Dont make me do it again 😭😭😭

[@dumbref1459]

Not sure our friend Anthony can beat the clock

[@drewvonporte]

Maybe we’ll have to challenge him!!!

[@bobbyy.7762]

You shot the 15 too fast. I know that you have a shot clock but you still shot it too fast. That's why you missed it. IMHO. As for the 8? You were basically reckless. And I like the UPL rules except for the time limit for the game. That doesn't make sense to me. But I do like this rule set. Especially the shot clock. On related, I play APA. I'm a relative newbie. 4 seasons or so. SL = 3. But I'm a pretty good banker. I still remember my first season hitting the eight ball on a bank shot. I hit it the length of the table and when I pocketed it? My teammate had the biggest grin! So much fun! And that was to win my match too by the way so it was an important shot.

[@drewvonporte]

That is awesome!!! Love those moments!! I sure did rush the 15…. And the 8?…. Oof… reckless is a good descriptor, sir 🤦🏻‍♂️ Thank you man 👊🏼💪🏼🤙🏼

[@jerrycasey1053]

Hey Drew, I' ve been a lookie loo for a bit, first comment. This was the worst I have seen you shoot. IMO you're about a 540-550, he's about right. I used to shoot APA and was team captain and have been in other formats also, BCA and USAPL. Around here APA seems to be mostly about making money for the league and LO's and not much for the players, which is why there actually is no local league atm. This format is interesting I:ll admit, but being able to manipulate the time factor like you mentioned near the end.... hmmm. Thanks for the explanation of the intentional foul rule. Something to be said for the shootout though. And thanks for your channel, I enjoy it.

[@drewvonporte]

Jerry, if I had a nickel for “first time commenters telling me I suck at pool”, Id be rich 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you though!!! Hope to hear from you again soon! We will see how UPL will fair around here as well, cheers!

[@jerrycasey1053]

@@drewvonporte Hey Drew, in no way am I saying you suck at pool. I actually think you are pretty good And have good insights into how the game can be played successfully. It's obvious that you have put in a lot of work, which is evidenced by your analysis of shots and patterns that you give so much time to. To me, a 550 Fargo is significantly above average and way above where I may be. On looking at Dr Dave's rating eq. chart I think you'd be higher than 550 but under 600. But hey, I'm just a guy with a stick.

[@drewvonporte]

@@jerrycasey1053 haha thanks Jer! No no I’m just givin ya sh*t!! It’s all good! Thank you! That’s honestly where I think I fall (for now😈)…. Thank you for the kind words regarding the analysis here on my channel! Really appreciate that!!!

[@mrkkitson]

Draw=follow through....

[@drewvonporte]

It does need that, don’t it???

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

I've seen quite a few UP matches at www.youtube.com/@UltimatePoolUSA. Like watching Melling. He scares me lol. He is real good. Weird rule off the break if you scratch. Behind the line shoot any direction. Slop counts even on the Eight ball. Tried to see about starting a league here on the east coast but nope. Haven't locked in a Fargo but I'm about the same as you I guess 550-600ish. You're like me or we're similar in that we like 8 ball a little more than 9 ball. I remember you said that on a recent vid. You and Adam? I need to get my video gear and record. I need to see my flaws where I'm lacking. On your break try a ball and a half left from center see what happens. I try less then a tip left above center. Hate that, can't explain it clearly without a popup picture ball hahaha. From center ball like a clock face go towards 10:30 or between the 10 and 11 half tip. Now I used to break pretty hard I can get some speed still so you have to find the right timing to get a square hit with a little pop. On a Diamond most the balls are past the side pocket. And because I'm getting older I have to call "clear! I'm going Full Retard!" I may or may not have the reason for a few attempted harm by cue ball offenses. I owe like $35 in our team scratch jar. A dollar a pop. Hey but I don't hold the record. I watched cue go into the ceiling. Round hole maybe ten feet up yeah playing 8 ball! I got 14th state bar box. Paid my entry. Fun time but realing long day. Hey if you need help with your break I might be able to get you some more power into it. We'll do it for anyone wo needs it and have video their break. Gotta go we have playoffs.

[@drewvonporte]

Isn’t Melling special??… He is my idol as far as pool goes. Wow. I have been trying different things with the cue ball for breaking, I’ll take this into consideration!! Thank you!!!

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

@@drewvonporte it worked 20:37. I do that line with cue ball on the line. 15oz cue 14mm straight taper shaft if you don't get more velocity......

[@drewvonporte]

Hey! Okay!

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

@@drewvonporte man it's cool. I practiced on my lunch breaks at USA Billiards in Laurel Md rt198 from 96 til 99 with Tom "Tom Tom" Wirth who I guess saw something in my playing to give me some coaching and I gladly paid. Then I changed jobs. I worked in Reisterstown Md. Then I practiced at a place off Reisterstown Rd called The Green Room. Not the one on North Point Blvd. It was a place that Segal and Strickland matched up a few times. Then they had 7 ball at ESPN Zone at the Power Plant. Guy keeping time was Pat O'neal. We played alot The 732 Club in fellspoint and Crofton Cantina. My erea has a pretty good Pool playing roots. Plus a very respectful group of world known cue makers. I personally had 3 Schruggs sneaky petes and a custom Tim and Mike cue that was and is still known to have a one of a kind finish and a 3/8" x 10 pin different then the 5/16x14 pins he used. Well I think I'll stop now. You can look up for yourself the list of makers that are here. I know a few personally. I make my own shafts but soon I'm going into custom cues. See you Drew!

[@tomhiggins875]

Thanks! Just what pool players need, another set of rules in addition to APA, BCA, VNEA, WPA and UPA.

[@drewvonporte]

🤣🤣🤣 EXACTLY!!! This is wildly different though, playing with time… adds excitement if you ask me

[@kriswood1354]

Dont forget TAP too! Lol

[@johncantone7463]

No new rules. International 8-ball rules. Very similar to BCA.

[@mikeind6378]

league is way too long - esp 8 ball. i'd like 3 match format (5 person team) to make night go faster. but no vegas option for that. shot clock in this format won't work for us - can't hear shot clock with music blasting. like the idea though.

[@drewvonporte]

Ah, I didn’t mention it enough, but that shot clock becomes a non-factor as long as you’re playing RELATIVELY with pace. We had no audio for the timer ourselves, we just let the player know at 10 seconds, then count down from 5… 4… 3… 2… Never came up! Don’t rule out UPL yet!

[@mikeind6378]

@@drewvonporte thinking more for other players that i've played that are super slow. we sometimes call out slower players since apa has a time limit also. but then you feel like a jerk rushing the other team.

[@drewvonporte]

Oh dude 100%. I deal with it every league night!! That’s why I’m very much looking forward to this, just to keep players on a decent pace honestly. I shoot a little quickly, so I don’t come close to 30 secs unless it’s an unusual scenario. Now, I GET that this league won’t be for EVERYONE, if they like to take 30+ on every shot. For sure. But still!

[@joeboe39]

lol nope!

[@drewvonporte]

🫠🤣🤣

[@ynkybomber]

Great video...trash play

[@drewvonporte]

Aw thank you so much!!! 🤗