This made me miss FPS games... - Corsair K70 PRO TKL

[@EthanObi]

Worth mentioning that SnapTap and similar functions from other companies are already being banned in many competitive shooters, and in terms of Anticheat-detection these types of inputs are easily detected, Don't buy products based on software features that are subject to change. The real benefit to these keyboards is for the people who don't like buying new products often, as the, Avg. Rated Presses for Optical/Hall Effect Switches make the numbers for Mechanical Keyboards look like a joke and Membrane Keyboards which already were far behind Mechanical now don't even qualify as Also-rans. With that said, I'm a bit skeptical about the addition of Silicone sound dampening in this keyboard, as when it inevitably deteriorates it could lead to uneven feeling and sounding keypresses, and maybe even interfere with the optical sensors, doing the complete opposite of what it was "designed" for, since this isn't a custom keyboard where the user is intended to be able to replace and repair parts of it, this has the potential to harm the longevity and vibe of what would be an otherwise long-lasting product. Probably better off going with one from Keychron, Wooting or Razer if Optical/Hall-Effect Keyboards are something you're interested in right now, but you're not wanting to go full custom.

[@bananasprint375]

said at 11:50

[@AllansRamblings]

And people found work arounds for those within about an hour of it being implemented.

[@mcod99]

only counter strike so far, what other games have banned this?

[@TheBekker_]

@@AllansRamblings That is then called cheating :)

[@turbochargedfilms]

​@@AllansRamblings that's good to know, I personally will probably never be able to make use of a feature like this but the fact that it is being banned like a "cheat" is incredibly stupid

[@gerak0]

hard to go wrong with a solid knob

[@cedricol]

it has a really nice feel

[@ThatChrisGuy]

There speaks a man of experience 😂

[@TactialJack]

words to live by

[@settler8616]

that's what he said

[@cedricol]

I'm sure that knob is very satisfying

[@Grumbo91]

"SILICONE"

[@Vikrum_]

I came down to comment this and can't help but let out a chuckle 💀🤡

[@danzkemueldmagadia3580]

It comes with 2 layers of sound dampening 👨🏻 S I L I C O N E 🗿

[@mosaicmonk4380]

lol

[@e100pavel]

Surprised not a lot of comments about it, it was so amazing, I was almost scared and it made me mentally tune in when the video at that point was pretty monotone.

[@bastionwolf]

Rubber like materials 😂

[@unrealed]

"It's hard to go wrong with a solid knob. Really satisfying, tactile feel" has gotta be making the brits howl with laughter

[@WizardJMP]

Yes, yes it did!

[@RealThatDesignerGuy]

I've used a few Corsair keyboards and they've always had too many compromises that are very evident long term. They are doing creative and good things with their design and technology but the price and compromises keep me from staying with them long term. I stay with keychron for the most part. They're priced right, almost no compromise, and they let you customize the keyboard where a company like Corsair will either not let you, or lock that behind a pretty high cost to entry keyboard. I think the main stream companies that are making these boutique keyboards need to see the actual competition and what they are doing, what they're letting consumer do to their keyboards and the price they're selling those keyboards for.

[@zatozatoichi7920]

And the Q and V series are not a hunk of shit. That should also count to something, especially if you compare it to Corsair. : D

[@ms3862]

Wow Corsair finally including wrist rest on TKL keyboards... wow times have changed!

[@Stackali]

finally? i bought an old k65 tkl many years ago and it came with a wrist rest. did they stop doing that?

[@RTBGG]

8:31 GoXLR was "dead" I guess, but the latest official firmware / software is not even 6 months old at this point afaik. Im using it right now and it all works fine.

[@johnathanmcdoe]

Just a heads up, snap tap like features are seen as cheats in some games. CS2 won't be the last to ban it, might as well not overpay for an mid quality keyboard when you can get better quality for less, but without questionable features like that.

[@AllansRamblings]

People found work arounds for the snap tap detection within about an hour of it being implemented.

[@kunimitsune177]

Any game considering this a cheat is actually stupid.

[@NameName-ll2yx]

Next they ban using all ten fingers for typing

[@flarebear5346]

I would buy the wooting for the amazing support and firmware, you can use rapid trigger and that alone will feel better than any normal keyboard when gaming

[@kleinsparky]

​@@kunimitsune177Per definition its a cheat, as it is some form of input automation. Socd/snap tap should not be the reason you buy a HE keyboard. You should get a HE keyboard for the hardware features like rapid trigger and full customization.

[@sturdybutter]

That wrist rest logo placement is the most absent minded design I’ve ever seen lol. It would look so much better in one of the corners and wouldn’t interfere when using. So silly.

[@Prlz3]

I know right! I probably wouldnt even buy it because of this lol Sometimes i wonder what people think when they do something like that...

[@Owy.]

I got the K100, and you never notice or feel the logo placement on the wrist rest. I don't think I ever had a problem using it. When gaming, you're not really thinking about the wrist rest anyways. I've been using the K100 keyboard since it came out as well

[@peanutbutterbean1738]

an 80he is the same price... much better software, much better customer service/warranty, much more moddable and is actually fully HE.. like thats gotta be the most corporate cash grab attempt at maximising profit margins ive seen in a keyboard in a while. coulda been a good option for like $130 though, but no, corsair is just being corsair again..

[@superblitz2274]

What does full he mean? Also the most expensive corsair option is 10 dollars cheaper than the cheapest option of the 80he,and corsair customer support in my experience has been excellent

[@peanutbutterbean1738]

@ the arrow keys, navigation cluster and f-row are not hall effect, but just normal mechanical switches. And if your experience with corsair has been good then go off of that, ive had an experience that drove me away from corsair but thats just my experience.

[@superblitz2274]

@@peanutbutterbean1738 yeah not all keys being he is a bummer for sure,because otherwise this seemed a much better value proposition to me

[@zatozatoichi7920]

It's easier to say 'much better everything'. Also, around 230 bucks, you can get a Meletrix BOOG75. This Corsair is a joke.

[@HallEffected]

For 110 USD you can get a drunkdeer g75 with even more features

[@jiggylookback]

I just got a K70 this week. What timing!

[@konkeydong6907]

Seems like Corsair finally decided to fully step up their game after their half-baked recent attempts. Loved Corsair as a brand back then but seeing how they were slacking off recently made me lose confidence in them, but this board seems to be a turning point.

[@p4l4d1n7]

brushed aluminum makes it so they can use cheaper metals. Plates with blemishes will still be used because they get brushed smooth.

[@HerbaMachina]

you could do the same thing with a sand blasted finish

[@alt666]

3:04 bro it's not even November yet and they're trying to make people fail lmfao.

[@LutraLovegood]

Huh?

[@brokawmike]

I am so glad I got the wooting 80he, holy hell it sounds amazing, feels amazing, web config, and supporting a small company. No reason at all under any circumstances to get this when you can get the wooting.

[@NecroMoz]

The wooting isn't shipping until the end of the year and costs significantly more in the UK.

[@DctrGizmo]

I like watching these videos even though I'm waiting on my Wooting 80HE and I'll probably won't need another keyboard for a long time.

[@iSammax]

I've been using my 80HE for almost a month now and yeah, you won't need another one Just get wooting people, it's just better in so many little details you have no idea

[@exsnozer]

This is the one I am thinking of upgrading to. From Logitech G915TKL.

[@1TechCritic420]

I have had the 60HE. Might have to get the 80HE. Best friggin keyboard made. The fact that you can update firmware and change all the setting with a web site and not even install an app is amazeballs. Long live Wooting!!!!

[@InFlamesor12]

love the multifunctional knob/dial , hate its TKL, wish they made a normal sized versin of this .

[@caxdi1775]

It took me a while to notice that this was a ShortCircuit video because the thumbnail that I saw didn't have a LTT worker in it, and after looking at the channel I noticed that I did miss like 3 other videos for the same reason. If I had seen that Plouffe was the one giving is first impression of the keyboard I would have watched it sooner

[@sturdybutter]

“I know this is a sponsored video but still…” doesn’t sound great. I know what you mean, but it sounds a little dubious and might be part of why people are so annoying about “being payed to say certain things” and all that

[@StuffTested]

It's also $180 from corsair

[@0008loser]

Isn't a review channel

[@Isaac_YT]

@@0008loserit is

[@99degreesnorth61]

​@@Isaac_YTit's unboxing plus

[@_Sigfried_]

8:33 C'mon guys, that post is 1 year old, the GoXlr is still receiving support, a dev team is back working on it. Fact checking, come on, I believe in you

[@Artista_Frustrado]

well that's good to know. GoXLR recieving support not the ECC Squad not working on Sponsored ShortCircuit videos

[@yamusa85]

I want to thank Corsair guys for noticing the message, and Sir Plouffe for reviewing K70 Pro. I've got my hands on attack shark and fell absolutely in love with hall switches. Looking forward to buy K70 Max - it has numpad!

[@zatozatoichi7920]

Just get a Keychron Q5 HE then, and forget this hunk of shit! ; )

[@BerylLx]

The new knob sounds way more durable than their old volume roller. The one on my K100 is faulty and I just completely turned it off via software.

[@homermorisson9135]

Zoom is much easier to get when you got a mouse, Control + Mouse Wheel. Ctrl + Num0 for reset.

[@macinator23]

I'll invest in a haptic keyboard when keyboard companies and game developers work together to make a pressure sensitive movement option. That's been my one complaint with gaming on KB&M is there's no good way to implement slight movements in games. The scroll wheel to adjust player speed is okay, but not great.

[@alexandercluck929]

Plouffe needs to find a way to get the "Finalmouse centerpiece keyboard"! I think he'd go crazy over it

[@ZSteven]

It would be nice if you would include lengths in meters also.. Really not nice to pause and convert sizes -.-

[@MrPatateHead]

I really wish they would make more choices available in the full size keyboard category. I'm annoyed by the everything is TKL now trend.

[@Stackali]

the only thing with hardware that will make you better is it being more comfortable. as long as its 1k polling and has decent response it will serve you just fine.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

this keyboard gets many extra points for being TKL instead of 75% and having the knob, but not being compatible with open software like VIA takes away half of them

[@MaethorDerien]

Yeah, I really hate the move to 80% and 75% instead of full TKL. That said I already went with a melgeek 84 pro on the kickstarter.

[@ashleigh.]

It's more like 79%, that knob I would never use, but I use the fuck out of printscreen and pause/break, and sometimes use scroll lock

[@MaethorDerien]

​@@ashleigh. Yeah, I don't really use the knob either, I have a separate volume control I would use. I don't really use scroll lock or pause/break, but I use printscreen, delete, home and end all the time. Insert is used occasionally but not as much. When I was programming regularly I used it all the time though. Luckily I do have a separate numberpad that I can replace all of that with.

[@Ace_v120]

You guys need to check the aula f75!!! It has a fantastic sound for a stock keyboard!!

[@StaySic4Ever]

Odd not all are same switches, I guess to keep the price lower. But good everyone are making these nowadays. Just wish we get better switches in general. Better stability and lower total travel option would be great.

[@Pratalax]

Pretty funny that "Corsair" of all companies are the one to miss the boat on snaptap. It certainly pleases me aesthetically though, i think it looks super super nice.

[@LedNe0nDevil]

I really like companies that do the product has they want it and don't change it based on reviewers opinions, because you are one and we are millions. Take influence on improvement from comments maybe.

[@MikeDawson1]

so what i'm hearing is that it's pre-lubed but the knob is soft

[@hereticsight]

How easy is it to take the keys off? I've had issues with my old K-series mechanical keyboards where the key would pop off without me even trying.

[@zizimugen4470]

Have they finally figured out that all non-basic keyboards deserve media keys and a VARIABLE VOLUME WHEEL as standard features? 8:00 Jfc Corsair, just volume. Default to volume. Volume control. Mfing volume control.

[@MatthiewMarks]

Does the wrist rest fall off when you move it like most other magnetic ones?

[@vampirefox7]

i have a strafe mk2 and my pc stopped booting on restart. i had to unplug my keyboard to restart my computer normally. the icue software was doing something that was interfering with the boot. uninstalled it and haven't had problems booting. it was such a nightmare to figure out i will never get another corsair

[@CeceliPS3]

Tech pages warned us about the new Windows update messing up with iCUE.

[@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse]

My problem is I don't type enough to warrant a new keyboard... I mistype often enough on my rather cheap Dell membrane keyboard but without knowing whether it's the board I'm not going to spend nearly 400 bucks on new keyboards. I always use the same at work and at home so you immediately double the cost.

[@Djuntas]

getting used to new keyboard is fair. But dude...membrane...Mechanical proper keys are so much better. If you using basic ass free membrane then you will find it better. Especially if you also game. Oh and 200 each...well if you buy high end sure.

[@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse]

@@Djuntas So tell me, what is a good and quiet keyboard under 100 bucks? Because my Dells cost me 25 bucks each.

[@Djuntas]

@@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse Mate its not about good enough. If you havent tried a mechanical keyboard your missing out. Even just laptop keyboards can be C tier or S tier. If you want quiet look into brown or red. Membrane sucks that is all. There are to many brands to list, but go to a store and see if you can find switches of different specs from red to black etc. Avoid blue for noise...Just google this or youtube videos. Its the same thing with ppl who have never tried more than 60 hz, missing out big time.

[@9684yami]

Now that the hardware is mostly the same, what will be the biggest differentiating factor is the software

[@segiraldovi]

I'm looking to upgrade my current keyboard, would you recommend this one or an Asus Azoth?

[@sentairider42]

So I don't know if ShortCircuit does review requests, but would it be alright to ask you guys to do a video on the Dygma Defy keyboard?

[@SkylerB17]

Ive got the K70 MkII from Corsair and its been great, but it kinda sounded like shit. I put a full set of PCMR pudding keycaps on and it made it sound so much nicer, still not great but better. Im no keyboard snob, by a long shot, but this new K70 tkl sounds good, and honestly ive been debating on going down to a tkl from a fullsize. Maybe its time. Ugh, idk, i still wanna build my own keyboard someday

[@skillupy4723]

I seriously cannot stand loud keyboards. I sold my membrane to get a scissor switch keyboard. I would love a recommendation of a quiet/silent keyboard that is pretty decent/good.

[@MyNeoStardust]

Wait why have they not tought to put a battery bank in the wristrest for extra time away for a wireless keyboard wouldnt that be helpfull or does it just not matter cause the computers right thier.😅

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

I still belive I'm good with my G810, seriously though keyboards are getting way too status symbol for me these days lol

[@yamusa85]

Try Attack Shark keyboards. They are quiet cheap and deliver very fine experience.

[@20NBA01]

"good enough for most people" *pricing at then end of the video*: $179.99 💀

[@Karvega11]

What do you guys think of the Royal Kludge RK98?

[@sjoer]

8000Hz is just a crazy number for a keyboard, nobody in the world has millisecond accuracy... even with ten keys pressed down :s

[@KryssN1]

Will wait for Logitech 915 Pro TKL Rapid

[@ewatfred]

GOXLR and the GOXLR project is far from dead, team is releasing firmware still and working with the open source community actively. Wish people would do their research before they just randomly peddle misinformation.

[@SethCrowderMusic]

I think that's harsh, people are misinformed, and the more mature we can be about giving others understanding, the better we can achieve exactly that, giving understanding. Most people usually aren't peddling misinformation, they aren't typically trying to lie, but everyone is misinformed about something, and so its good to have the second opinion and reasoning, but just as so to understand that we aren't eachothers enemys

[@1TechCritic420]

Will never replace my Wooting 60HE

[@SladeWins]

Does Corsair support automatic per-game profile switching in their software? I'm getting tired of Logitech's shitty app, looking to switch to something else. Steelseries looks good.

[@KabuTheFox]

8000hz really only makes sense with an HE keyboard if you are using all its features, if you are just using it as a keyboard 1000hz is plenty

[@maemilev]

Default out of the box is 1000 pooling until change at software with warning!

[@VeryLoki]

can you review the Pantone product line of wireless earphones and headphones?

[@Madblaster6]

I've had my Corsair for 10 years with Green switches.

[@mfknDelightful]

wish we had a good Bluetooth keyboard list for couch gaming

[@witness1013]

oh no - the PAIN of the LOGO - the horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Yahya-X]

We need the 65% version of this Corsair !

[@Owy.]

was hoping this would replace my K100 but since CS bans it no point wasting my money

[@diggy1147]

Really like this keyboard, but the possibility of accidentally VAC banning myself puts this off the table.

[@jblcreative]

How did you get iQue to work? This seems to be the buggiest piece of garbage ever.... Tried every fix going and it does not work. I now use Open RGB?

[@yurenchen6431]

Brushed aluminum looks so much better 😊

[@Hibituel]

Plouffe, you are the keyboard guru. In another life we were besties. I'm thinking we were door knob experts in the 1800's. Turnin those knobs look for that perfect sound and feel. We probably had buckets of brass knobs.

[@h3lladvocate]

Wish it was fullsize, I can't do TKL, I need a numpad

[@Rockshoes1]

Too expensive though for being plastic wired. No hot swap? Or I just missed it

[@Hol-mes]

included wrist rest are always so small that it makes the built in magnet pointless...and the only good sound a switch can ever make it no sound

[@thezx5795]

Who's this man talking over my keyboard asmr video

[@derekg2132]

So this or 500 Asus azoth extreme with their 8k pulling

[@AlKohaiMusic]

Reminder to folks that's esports fps are not the game genre that exists. Yes halleffect features are banned in quite a few of them, no that does not make the tech worthless. High pull rate hall effect keyboards have been big in the rythm game (esp OSU) for a good few years now, not to mention any number of single player/less competitive games. Don't get me wrong I still think something from Wooting who pretty much does just HE boards is a better move than investing in a Jack of All trades oem like corsair for this more niche market. Regardless let's not posture as if folks are cheating just because they own gear that utilizes tech that has perfectly innocuous use cases along side its nefarious ones

[@EthanObi]

Hall-Effect/Optical Switches are amazing tech for keyboards, the longevity of them are leaps and bounds above Mechanical. With Membrane Switches being found dead in a ditch down the road. The problem is Companies are trying to jump on the SnapTap/Rappy/Tappy/RapidTrigger/insertSoftwareBasedInputCancelingFeature here bandwagon and pushing it as a big selling poin. It's basically the modern day "Turbo Controller in Fighting Games" dilemma.

[@dalyxia]

And also in OSU there is already someone banned for using snaptap, Karl Jobst made a video about it. My opinion is that its not cheating, but heey, im a nobody.

[@VeryLoki]

i've had corsair keyboards, the k65 and the k65 mini and they both have faults with the space bar and other keys not registering everytime. So im inclined to never buy another corsair keyboard.

[@JesperRonnquist]

nice design

[@ljcool17]

I haven't thought about purchasing HE keyboards because I'm not much of an FPS players and wouldn't really benefit from it, the choices of switches are still limited, and they don't sound as good as mechanical.

[@danieloberhofer9035]

"Aluminating" - I see what you did there... 😅

[@adorab0wl]

lmao "i love the hue of the color"

[@ashleigh.]

I hate this trend of replacing print screen/scroll lock/pause with media keys, I use the fuck out of those keys. You're not a TKL, as you've taken away more than the numpad, you're 3 keys short godamnit!

[@batcarpet1225]

Because of how popular mechanical keyboards have become in recent years or even year, factory lube and even just prebuilt in general has come to like 90 or even 95% of customs

[@philipmitchell4469]

😂😂😂keyboard snob struggling with work assignment😂😂😂

[@cedricol]

Unfortunately, the best keyboard brands (keychron, steelseries, ...) are smaller and can't carry layouts for smaller countries like Belgium, so we're always stuck with the big guys like Corsair or Logitech.

[@Witchlord]

So far Icue is the easiest to use software ive found. Only thing I dont like about it is that is a closed environment

[@maxime_vhw]

Question to the keyboard people. Do you not wear a headset majority of the time? 99% of the time im wearing headphones so i dont even hear my keyboard.

[@ChickenNuggies]

what do you mean "good enough"? I have a $2 dell keyboard

[@seiji_senpai]

KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Side_01]

snap snap

[@CTRL-ALT-DEREK]

The recent voice overs in LTT and here have been jarring

[@zatozatoichi7920]

But easy to go wrong with a Corsair keyboard. : D

[@mikul2646]

4:39 Bro?

[@georgioszampoukis1966]

Many competitive games will not let you use such features but I am not fully convinced this is very ethical or right to do. Yes, it gives you a competitive edge but so do high refresh monitors for example. should we ban 60+ fps monitors just because they give you an edge? should we ban good headsets because they give you an edge? what about high polling rate mice? maybe also ban high end GPUs because playing at higher FPS gives you an edge? you get the idea. At what point do we draw a line on what is allowed and what is not?

[@Pathological100]

The difference is that snaptap automates inputs and none of those things do

[@georgioszampoukis1966]

@@Pathological100 Solid point and I totally agree, any type of automation should not be allowed, but still, if we zoom out and look at the broader image, there are so many things that give you an edge, some of which arguably have a bigger impact than snaptap (FPS, Ping, etc). It is a good thing it is not allowed, I am not suggesting otherwise, my main point was that it might not make a huge difference since the competitive environment is already pay-to-win to a large extend.

[@WatchXmeXr0ar]

Makes me want to try using something other than my 10 year old Logitech k360... but I won't haha

[@ApfelJohannisbeere]

Surprise ASM "SILICONE" ^^

[@costafilh0]

corsair k70 max *VS* razer huntsman v3 pro

[@MindstabThrull]

About 10:45 when Plouffe says going from 1000 Hz to 8000 Hz is "way faster! One hundred per cent!" my brain suddenly went "Akshullyyyy it's 800% faster...."

[@chasewood2416]

Ahh yes, we will forever remember the days of blaming the gaming chair; usher in the new era of blaming the keyboard. On a serious note, as much as i want to get a new keyboard cuz lots of them are niiiice, i cant justify replacing my 8,000hz EVGA optical mechanical (that i got on clearance for $50 usd) that's going strong for around 4 years now.

[@ScottJohnson-v1r]

Do you have to use iCue? You do? Ok, nevermind.....and all the keys are not hall effect? The case only has an aluminum top plate for that price? I'm also disappointed you didn't check for hot swap compatibility and if the LED were north or south facing?

[@normi0]

For people complaining about how this hardware is not cheating, one could consider that having everyone switch to nonstandard hardware that is in most cases way more expensive than the standard would be unfair for those who can’t afford it. They’re banned because they do offer a substantial advantage in the competitive scene. Feel free to correct me if I got something wrong… or the whole thing wrong 👀

[@Pathological100]

@@normi0 SOCD/snaptap isn't banned because of the advantage it gives, it's banned because it automates inputs.

[@brianbroski7869]

Scripting is banned in most every e-sports scene. The keyboard feature is a script. The hardware is cheating because it allows inputs that no human can do. If that isn’t cheating, then having a program click on your opponents head also “isn’t cheating”. People who say that are idiots.

[@grahamb7947]

Here's an idea: don't pay extra for the keycaps from Corsair, and buy a keycap set from a third party... say Drop. Big W for Corsair, doing what Logitech are too coward to do, and using industry standard switches and keycaps so you can actually replace them. Infuriates me to no end that Logitech make $200-400 keyboards like their G915 TKL Lightspeed to be 100% proprietary with no replacement keycaps to be found whatsoever. They don't even provide the CAD files for you to 3D print some yourself. Big L for Corsair though, for not adding a battery and not making it wireless. There is literally no disadvantage of wireless keyboards and mice these days. I'd have bought this keyboard in an instant to replace my G915 TKL... IF ONLY IT WAS WIRELESS.

[@willwunsche6940]

Anything above 2K polling is basically meaningless but come with a small amount of healthy skepticisn about the quality of Hall Effect implementation from non-Wooting boards if you are a competitive player. Have seen a lot of the cheaper HE keyboards really screw up a lot of the details in a way that makes them worse noticeably to play on or they have issues that are frustrating like deadzones, weird latency issues or poor sensitivity

[@transformerstuff7029]

where the jokes about this man's keyboard costing more than his car? 180 bucks for rattle. No thanks.

[@FelanLP]

To be honest keyboards should all work like this: As soon as you press down, it registers as a press. As soon as you lift you finger, it registers as a release. No matter how far it was pressed or released before. That's not cheating, that just proper input management. And how you handle n-key-rollover (if this so the correct term here) should also be the user's choice. Either send all pressed keys simultaneously (n-key rollover) or just the last one (proper gaming peripheral). That's not cheating but again just proper input management. 0-key rollover would then be kinda like only sending the first pressed key. This would be useful when simulating a typewriter, but since it is an option, it should therefor at least be an option for the user.

[@FelanLP]

And it wouldn't even be cheating it you can manage your n-key rollover settings individually from key to key. Because if that isn't allowed, it should also not be allowed to change keybinds in the first place.

[@zerorig]

n-key rollover just means keys can be registered simultaneously. my old IBM model M for example only has 2-key rollover (any 2 keys can be registered at once) but it really depends on the actual matrix. it can register way more than that but if one of the keys blocks part of the matrix for another it won't register. holding e+r, the f key will not register for example but ctrl+shift+space all do

[@FelanLP]

@zerorig yes, I know. Being able to a handle all keys and sending them simultaneously, is n-key rollover. Sending only the first key and ignoring the rest, is 0-key rollover. But what would be the equivalent, if only the last one is send? -1 key rollover? Besides that though, all 3 should should an option the user can select in the software, from key to key individually.