This Marathon Video Was Not Good - My Reaction

[@DestinL]

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[@chickenwings6172]

My friend thinks Marathon will be nothing like Ubisoft's RS Seige. Running is like walking only faster. Bungie is cooked, they should make Oni 2. The OG Oni game was released on PS2 in 2000

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

destin marketed the game better in 10 seconds than the guy that made it.

[@samuelmunoz1464]

Bro, chill out. I didn't know what an extraction shooter was.

[@buschg7106]

No. I'd rather try apex on pro. Seems interesting😂

[@Splooth_Sleeping_Battery]

They are asking us to wishlist it, without having anything to show for it other than two pictures that says nothing about how the game as a whole.. I don't know man

[@beardedkupp]

As an OG Marathon player, you lost me at extraction shooter. I have been lost for a whileee

[@DestinL]

Yeah they needed to SHOW something. We still have no idea what this game is.

[@PrussianBlu3]

@beardedkupp like Shadow run being a class-based multiplayer shooter on the 360. I liked the game for what it did. I hated the counterstrike style rounds.

[@ubersky7029]

This video is such a red flag 🚩

[@beardedkupp]

@@ItalianoYMexicano I heard this exactly in my head lmao

[@TheOldest]

Ditto, zero expectations since it's announcement.

[@AgentXforce]

This video was realised in a panic following the downfall of Concord

[@Whiskeyjack98]

Yup, this is exactly what this is.

[@KermitOfWar]

Never trust a dude that wears a winter hat inside the office.

[@neildavid7712]

Never trust a dude who based his opinion off someone's outfit.

[@SlimmCity]

​@@neildavid7712 you must wear a winter hat in the office.

[@miguellee3]

This feels like when a student doesn’t submit an assignment because “their dog ate it” but is still trying to explaining what they did

[@urazz7739]

That actually happened to my sister once in high school. She was finishing up the last bit of her homework (it was easy assignment so she had no issue putting it off till that morning) before we went to school and the dog was wanting her to play but my sister ignored her. The dog then grabbed her homework and ran off with it. It was pretty hilarious because she took what was left of the homework with her to school and gave it to the teacher and told her and the class that the dog ate her homework. Needless to say, the teacher and the class didn't believe her, but my mom told my sister to have the teacher call her to verify the story just in case. Needless to say, the teacher was in disbelief when my mom told her that the dog really did steal/eat the homework. The teacher was in disbelief over it but let my sister complete the homework again and turn it in. Funny thing is that by the end of the day, it was known all over the school that our dog actually ate my sister's homework.

[@BrotherO4]

Destin literally told them how terrible of a job they did and back it up by showing how it done lmao

[@SynthLizard8]

WOW! You mean to tell me you can equip your character with different things and those things do things!?. ...WTF is wrong with game makers today?

[@Xyler94]

Everything's made to adhere to checklists, not to be a creative game anymore. And bean counters and shareholders have no idea how creativity works, they just see one thing selling well and demand their products copy that thing.

[@jessep5280]

Not just things, but a *grenade!* dude! And healing items! Holy crap! I think he even said there's a gun!? I can't believe it.

[@geekedstoner4209]

He's talkin like he has a gun pointed to his head 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀. This game is gonna be terrible , solely based on their marketing🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@eddiemin4312]

Totally unprepared, it does seems like they got a phone call that morning from Sony and told them they’re going live at noon. The fact that he explains the genre makes me think this was for investors not gamers.

[@reapersasmr5483]

Yes yes he is

[@zetheros8627]

Diablo 4 devs acted like this too on interview. This is not a good show

[@LouiseBelcher69]

Bungie: “Please care” Players: “Why you didn't show any gameplay”

[@bruceyawen6160]

Bungie grave robbed an old ip of theirs and tries to milk it for life service money... If this game flops itll be the end of bungie

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

You can only hope for it. Xbox didn't want them back and this was a smart decision. ☮️

[@suripto746]

Every studio that got bought by sony is in danger 😂

[@DestinL]

I am a bit worried about Bungie given the fact that this needs to be a success.

[@lildevin16]

@@DestinLdon’t worry Destin everyone will spin it to make PlayStation look like a saint or blame Xbox. Or just run a bunch or redfall articles

[@sillymikey]

@@DestinL the worst possible choice they could’ve made for a new game is an extraction shooter. They are so niche and I don’t see this game changing that.

[@Mcfigg]

@@lildevin16no Concord has cancelled out redfall 😂🤣😆 biggest flop in gaming history 😬

[@martyk656]

@@DestinL I'm excited about the hammer coming down on Bungie after stealing paid content from me. I own Destiny 2 & Forsaken on physical disc, yet I can't play the campaigns.

[@CamboMeng]

It’s not a game… it’s a Marathon! 😂

[@marsmotion]

good one

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

"You are playing it wrong" Bongie

[@frankrivers3797]

"This is Bungie..." Destin, after the layoffs, is it really? This is Sony now, the same company that bungled Concord. It really shows.

[@jay40sd]

I would never say my game “is not for everyone” lol

[@HusseinBash77]

Why not ? Some people said that’s a good thing , a game for everyone is a game for no one.

[@BashVideoEditor]

Yeah Bungie having a lot of layoffs and transfers and then banking everything on an extraction shooter is a little concerning. Did the higher ups swindle SONY into buying a burning ship?

[@lildevin16]

Nah Sony was desperate to get into the live service. The fact that bungie reached out to Xbox and they refused to take them back should have been a red flag

[@PrussianBlu3]

Sony played themselves.

[@inkdreaper874]

Marathon: Concord 2.0

[@RandalReid]

When they first announced this, I thought it's going to be a story-driven singleplayer game. I was genuinely excited. I thought this is Bungie going back to their roots - their Halo after Halo. Heck, I'll even name-drop Myth as that had a decent story (can't remember anything about Oni even though I played that as well). Still, this could be good, who knows, it's too early to tell, but it's not for me.

[@lildevin16]

When this game fails they will blame Xbox

[@mrigamer7084]

Lol or Activision

[@GamingTalk-cl7xj]

Anybody but PlayStation “They let them do what they want it’s not their fault!”

[@Ronan_Black]

Same company now ​@@mrigamer7084

[@TheBean87]

They’ll blame the series s

[@lildevin16]

Y’all are hilarious😂. “Sony tightened the belt on them” Ponies: “ well they created this game before they took over” You can’t be serious it’s been two to three years Sony was fully involved. 😂

[@austinfowler2707]

"Hi yes, we will make video game. Clap for us."

[@jaybirdblood591]

12:43 Dude: Im trying to avoid giving away too many of the details Destin: You told us nothing 💀

[@deinmoore201]

This is that Divorced Dad chat- “Hey buddy, so you’re probably wondering why Dad hasn’t been around much, well, I can’t tell you a lot right now but I’m still gonna be around buddy, just not as much as Mommy 😅”

[@jean-alexandrethibault3892]

"Show don't tell" .. they did the total opposite. LOOOL

[@eddiemin4312]

Yup. But to be fair, like others have mentioned it seems like they were forced by higher ups

[@anthobee]

I’ve spent the last 10 years complaining about not enough vault space so Marathon probably isn’t for me lol

[@DestinL]

LOL

[@ChanceMath]

@@DestinL oh that's a good one, I bet you and your lesser than decent looking wife laughed hard

[@MrMultiPlatform]

Stop playing games clown

[@Mcfigg]

Sony wasted another 3.6 billion 😂🤣😆

[@Mr.Badoogle]

Yup. lol there’s a reason Xbox didn’t bring them back

[@MrMultiPlatform]

Beating Xbox 3/1 and have multiple GOTY nominees that ain't on Xbox.

[@Mcfigg]

@ nominees ain’t getting it done….and take the S off of the nominees your lucky if Astrobot makes it nobody bought it 😆🤣 3/1 means nothing when I can play on my series x my ROG and PC 😬😎✌🏽Microsoft winning in money destroying Sony 😬

[@daycampgames]

It's like watching someone talk about an inside joke that they really wish they could let you be a part of, and that the joke is really funny and you just have to trust them bro.

[@Blockvard]

This is like listening to the dude in university who partied all weekend and put together a presentation last minute. Feel bad for the man, it's so bad and he seems to know it. Concord made them panic. Marathon will probably be fine, but that's not gonna cut it for Bungie. And they were slowly bleeding Destiny dead for this...get that they want to create something new for creativity, but wow

[@Danil_JRK]

The video was pretty much "the game has game like mechanics and characters you cam use" .

[@JeyKorey]

Lost me at hero based.

[@GreggBennett-ki6yd]

No joke this is bad. I have never heard so much nothing with so many words.

[@mumrrah]

No.1 rule, so don’t tell, he knows what the game looks like and how it plays but the potential buyers of said game have no clue.

[@95mjl]

This isn’t bungie anymore, they were gone once the layoffs happen. Actually before that really. No hopes for this game and it’s sad really, the extraction shooter is already saturated and you make it a hero shooter too,two genres that I don’t care about

[@raymcdougal420]

Even the devs looks like he really need some money 😂

[@Tedakin]

Maybe they felt they had to put out something due to the Concord fiasco, but they didn't really think this through.

[@Scotty-it8ue]

Bungie has been on a downward trend ever since the left halo behind, destiny started off well but it’s no where as big as it was, they are just surging by there name but can’t produce anything to back that name anymore!

[@Disconnis]

Destiny did NOT start off well lol Vanilla D1 was extremely barebones and clearly had a ton of cut content that they resold back to customers as DLC...

[@Scotty-it8ue]

@ started better than concord 😂😂

[@warchildsilver]

Trust me bro. We have a real game.

[@BTDoubleU]

First Dude talking about Marathon really should’ve had a teleprompter.

[@robertlipsey1160]

When all of your potential players have no idea what the game is going to look or play like, to do a ‘casual’, unscripted interview is a good way to make it seem like your game isn’t coming out, ever. Everyone’s thinking this is the next Concord. To say things like ‘the last game in the Marathon franchise was like, 1994, I think’. Bro you should have that date written down AND memorized. Makes it seem like the devs don’t even care about the game they’re making or the world it’s set in.

[@jeffk6686]

Bungie is done. Seeing what's become of Destiny 2, I don't have any hope for this game.

[@thaneros]

To be fair, Destin, I had no clue what exactly an Extraction Shooter is. I'm a single-player gamer, but then again, I'm most likely not the target audience.

[@GeneralLee-mh2cu]

marathon AKA Concord 2 also, Destin, if you are seeing this, your Veilguard maths is misleading. Dragon's Dogma2 has peak concurrent steam player almost 3 times of Veilguard, and DD2 sold 3 million in 3 months. That means Veilguard maybe selling 1 million in 3 months. Veilguard = Starwars Outlaw in terms of sales. Not looking good, my man

[@VitalVampyr]

They claim it broke sales records for a BioWare game. Also I imagine that a fair number of PC players would have bought it through the EA launcher since it's cheaper there if you have Game Pass or EA Play. There's nothing like that for Capcom games. Furthermore Star Wars: Outlaws had very high sales expectations based on the IP. "Disappointing" sales numbers for that game would be decent numbers for most games.

[@DestinL]

I don't think Dragon's Dogma, which broke records is a fair comparison. Veilguard is in the Top 200 concurrent of all time on Steam for some context, putting it near games like Borderlands 3, Far Cry 5, Civ 5, MGS 5, Tomb Raider, etc.

[@SpottedHares]

that's steam shill math right their.

[@TheMountainman14]

They took a game that pretty much no one has played and turned it into a modern day extraction shooter. Idk I could be wrong but I don’t think too many people are looking for a new extraction shooter. Plus, it’s gone through multiple changes with dev team etc. We have seen no actual live gameplay. To me this is a dumpster fire and won’t work. Everyone will try it because it’s Bungie. But it’s not going to work.

[@mozzinator]

As People are saying in comments. This video is released in a Panic which was induced due to colossal failure of Concord which Surprise Surprise was also a Hero shooter. So Sony is now worried about Bungie's hero shooter as well

[@urazz7739]

The fact that there was no gameplay is a big issue.

[@Kzx828]

Falling on your sword always earns people trust and respect!🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ssjpico]

I don’t know what extraction shooter is so was good to get an overview

[@mr.selfimprovement3241]

This sounds like the conversations me and my buddies would have back in the late 90s when we were in college and sitting around concepting games we never made.

[@Oruninn]

Nice video editing Destin lol top tier for being thrown together lol

[@KlutchAndJerel]

I didn’t know what an extraction shooter is. Maybe the video isn’t meant for people who knew everything about the game already

[@FilledWithChi11]

He just explained what an extraction shooter is in 4-6 different generic ways lol “this games not for everyone” wow I’m really excited now

[@marsmotion]

hey were making warframe but worse and more annoying and financially predatory prob.

[@Omgitsjoshers123]

“This game is not for everybody” That sentence alone drives so many potential consumers away.

[@broderickfoster2107]

So does “this is a game for everybody” there’s literally no winning… Destiny fans complain all the time about the game trying to appeal to too many crowds and it’s divided them from the inside out. So no Marathon should not aim for a super massive wide audience where they catch nobody, but should focus on a target market and capture that.

[@BillNyeGuy]

They fired much of their marketing, communications, pr, and community talent. This video they released was so low budget and terribly produced. Just shows why those team members were needed.

[@bw398]

This isn’t the Halo1-3 Bungie. Sony destroyed the Bungie devs that the acquired.

[@Danil_JRK]

Bungie destroyed itself, nothing to do with sony.

[@lildevin16]

@@Danil_JRKbut they will shut them down

[@Danil_JRK]

@@lildevin16 that was bungies fault for years of being incompetent.

[@schillingspree49]

If you’ve been paying any attention, this downfall has been years in the making. Long before the Sony acquisition.

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Like Fony always did. ☮️

[@poppingdolphins278]

Everything I hear about Marathon has made me extremely skeptical

[@nerm9507]

“We do all this for you!” This is how I learned I was one of Pete’s cars.

[@manukau5271]

They had to cut down on the marketing budget

[@edviges1]

Well another microtransactions, season pass, dlcs, game.

[@purefoldnz3070]

I wonder what the budget for this one is. Hopefully its not close to what Concord was

[@samybasile]

From what he said on the state of development of Marathon, it's gonna be released either as a launch title for the PS6 or at the tail end of this gen

[@lawlessx9]

This video did more harm than good.

[@ubersky7029]

I couldn’t stop looking at his hand movements.

[@darksamiri4304]

Im gunna be honest. Just the Dialougue "its a game not for everybody". Does give me alittle hope. Thats mostly due to the environment game development is in atm. I am aware lol. I do wanna see more which im so confused why this wasnt that 😂

[@jamesmcintoshjr]

Future train wreck where we're actually watching them build the train before it derails. Or at least hear them talk about building said train.

[@jrp335]

Bungee probably fired all the people who would’ve told them this video was a bad idea.

[@SpottedHares]

For those of you who don’t remember because gamers have shit memory, we found that after Destiny one launched Activision had to send over people from the Diablo team to destiny so they could teach him how to make a looter. This was after destiny had already launched had made, and sold a litter without knowing how to make a litter and needed somebody else to come in and show them how to do it. It looks like the exact same thing with extraction shooters. They said let’s make it extraction shooter and decide they weren’t gonna actually bother looking into what that actually meant.

[@florisbackx1744]

If the game was pitched like this it would receive 0, I repeat 0 funds... so little to tell and nothing to show and this is years in to development. The way he talks about the game is so insecure as if he knows there is actually nothing to tell. It sounds like he is constantly apologizing for his game, very weird vibes...

[@TheMountainman14]

The thief is wearing oversized clunky armor yet is a stealth character lmao

[@tylragor1653]

Really hope this company would go bankrupt after manipulating and scamming their own player base for decades. Hope bungie would shut down exactly like firewalk studio.

[@MongooseMaul]

There must have been a massive ripple effect from concord thru out Sony.. this seems so forced

[@The_Albraskan]

So I guess it’s safe to say that vidoc team got hit by those lay-offs?

[@bucketophil]

It feels like this guy just went rogue and did this on his own without prior approval.

[@lllwarchildlll]

Zero interest in a predatory game company’s extraction shooter throttling experience, drops, and weighting perks all while drowning it in microtransactions while funding Pete’s cars. Nah.

[@RedDeadPandaGaming]

You think if they had only delayed the game till 2025 that they would have a vertical slice to show the public and build hype

[@Sketch_MGetch]

I was actually incredibly excited for Marathon and the cool aesthetic around it. This video completely torpedoed my excitement. Bungie admitted to draining Destiny's workforce for this game and eventually massive layoffs occurred. All for this director to come on video and fumble nervously through a description of the games CONCEPT. No real details or anything. Holy shit I am floored by this studio's incompetence. Not sure what they have been doing these past few years. also, Heroes??? give me a break

[@magnusmadkrantz147]

This game does not look good. Feels like Concord.

[@RyanParreno]

He faced onscreen to put a face to the guy fans were thinking was going to make Marathon another hero shooter, so he isn't being othered as if he isn't a real person anymore. He promised the public would increasingly be added to playtests, meaning gamers will get a real chance to help shape the game. And if they get feedback that it isn't going to work, they can drop it before it becomes too big to fail. That's why I think they put this video out.

[@RavenwoodsTorches]

Bungie is following the Concord plan almost step by step...Sony "the goal" to learn from the Concord disaster was not to ask Bungie to follow that formula Marathon is gonna be another disaster that will spell the official end of Bungie...RIP

[@ColeTrain54]

This didn’t even some like a confident presentation. So many uh, um’s and stumbles

[@Mr.Genesis]

Todd Howard has more production in any Starfield video that came out than this entire video will ever have

[@GamingTalk-cl7xj]

Down with Bungie

[@alargefarva4274]

Why play this when Deep Rock Galactic exists????

[@nathanb21358]

I’m interested to see how Marathon turns out but I have no interest to play it, played the first destiny and enjoyed it for a bit until the constant grinding to keep up with weapons and needing a group to do the raids caused me to stop. Tried Destiny 2 once but got overwhelmed by what to do in the story, this was when it was on game pass so it had a few add ons. I hope it turns out well, I don’t want to see another studio shutdown but my faith in Bungie peaked during Halo Reach

[@Whosdonaldd]

Him taking the time to explain what an extraction shooter was honestly felt a little condescending. The people paying attention to this game at this point in time already know what an extraction shooter is.

[@bracusforge7964]

They might be trying to market it to Sony's single player gamers. Single player gamers play those games for a reason, no way they are going to stick for long if this is an extraction shooter.

[@urazz7739]

@@bracusforge7964 I do like Witchfire. It's an early access single player roguelike extraction shooter on Steam. So, they can have a market for extraction shooters for single player games, but it won't make nearly as much money as a multiplayer live service game.

[@joeg4707]

I already had zero interest in Marathon. Bungie is a failing studio. This is an embarrassment.

[@roblangton349]

Concord 2.0 👎🏻

[@LaurenceIRE]

The art style looks interesting

[@brucevandermescht6957]

They're explaining it this way to try and garner any sort of interest in this game, I'm sure internal data they have is showing that this game will be another Concord on launch.

[@larrytaylor2692]

The concept art is framed on his wall behind him.

[@zak6093]

All of this is because of the series s

[@DingoTactical]

Did Bungie forget they created the fully fledged lore rich universe of Marathon 30 years ago? Because it sounds like they have no idea what Marathon is supposed to be. This entire video reads like a sony executive ordering a hughly monitosed Halo like, and nobody knowing what that is supposed to be.

[@Virtuabrad]

It's not Bungie anymore. Halo Studios is more Bungie now.

[@styranki1966]

We didn't get much -- if anything -- new from the video. I feel it made the game less interesting. And to me, at least, it made Bungie look less trustworthy since they still didn't have gameplay to show. I still believe making Marathon, a hero-extraction shooter, instead of Destiny 3 is a mistake. I, among others within a huge fanbase, would've immediately been on board with an evolution of Destiny. There's a solid base already and an interesting sci-fi universe to build on. As a fan of Destiny, I don't know why I should or even could be interested in Marathon since I don't care for extraction shooters or hero shooters. Destiny and Marathon are completely different things, only connected by the fact that they're made by Bungie. And as I implied earlier, I have little trust in them at this point.

[@percypringles4163]

i like rude destin

[@jeffcarrier9808]

I'm still yet to play an Extraction shooter, I appreciated his explanation. And I'm not a Destiny player, but this seems to be targeted towards Destiny players to inform them what to expect. They know players often exist in a bubble around a single game and understand nothing else.

[@anakinskyguy6582]

This has to be aimed at investors or something because there's no way ☠️

[@mcrich1978]

4:50 lol we're ya about to say Anthem? 😂😂😂

[@zachgrim7416]

Ah yes….. another game no one wants going out to die.

[@cthulhu888]

Super underwhelming for just another couple of screenshots 😅 I like the art style from what we've seen, but it's literally all we've seen! Looks like it'll be valorant mixed with destiny which is fine, but it doesn't match the hype and lack of tangible updates we've seen so far lol

[@YeOldeMachine]

Wtf is happening at Bungie? That was horrendous. He sounds like he's just winging it. They could've at least wrote a script. Geez

[@GoldLBS]

Im cool with marathon having mp thats based around extraction but a single player campaign would be more interesting. Especially with the visuals they teased. But if its only an extraction shooter my hype is at zero.