Bungie FINALLY Revealed SOME New Marathon Details...

[@HiddenXperia]

So... This was certainly an interesting (and very 'walking on eggshells') video to make...

[@YazzayBoxing]

I dont think anyone in this SCENE trust modern bungie at all. The CEO is ruining it, and who tf wants another extraction shooter? Nothing unique by a company whos now a shell of its former self

[@-RAV3N]

I hope there is a crazy movement type character. If so I will 100% be glued to learning it.

[@shredx7169]

I do have 2 questions, 1 how can we be sure this won't turn into destiny with over priced dlcs season passes and temporary content. 2 what was your opinion on tarkov's unheard edition BS (made me lose all respect for them for even considering it.)

[@odinulveson9101]

Rather Extraction games than Battle Royales. Why? In Extractions its high risk/ reward. And get the feeling of OWNING the stuff you get away with each session.Theres an addictive adrenaline rush every time Imo.

[@bait644]

Don't trust Bungie right now. But will still support you with my view and my addition to the likes just cause I still love ya. If it's good on release, great. If it's as bad as the community feared, still gonna have the hate on Bungo. But not gonna leave ya. We're connected like the Flood biomass

[@ProjectXenome]

Extraction shooter? FINALLY another live service multiplayer game!

[@trashjash]

Concord 2 already? Let's gooooo

[@stolendiamond09]

Anyone else pretty much stopped playing those sort of games?

[@v4skunk739]

@@trashjash Concord was a lgbt hero shooter. Marathon is an extraction shooter like Tarkov.

[@jimjam7928]

@@stolendiamond09 I just stick to singleplayer nowadays. Play a game, enjoy its story, finish it, move on. Online is just saturated with such endless bullshit.

[@VeryFamousActor]

​@@v4skunk739 I've never heard a game's genre described as "LGBT"

[@reportedbooch697]

Current Bungie is just a lifeless shell compared to Bungie at its heights. I can’t get hyped for Marathon being a fucking extraction shooter while the CEO lays off hundreds of people to afford more custom cars.

[@Spuckley.]

Ok

[@Bloodylaser]

They even laid off the woman who designed the Halo logo!! WTF?!

[@fissilepear7805]

Ship of Theseus. The people who built the golden era of gaming are gone. The companies of today share name alone with the companies who made the best games of our childhood/past. They have been gutted, malformed and construed into corporate shells by shareholders and money hungry management to generate as much money as possible while stifling creativity. Indie is the way to go if you want the gaming experiences of old in today's world. Game engines have come al long way especially in recent years lowering the barrier of entry for gam development drastically leading to indie games today often times being better products than the AAA gaming space. Why? Passion > greed. Passion will always lead to a better product than making something purely for profit. It is unfortunate though that a lot of indie gaming is locked to pc though. This is why I believe buying a steam deck/building a pc is the best investment one can make right now. Consoles have become increasingly more money hungry while offering less and less. We are losing the disk drive, subscription prices keep getting worse, console games keep getting more expensive and we have no security in our purchases. Making the switch to steam/GOG is the best idea for long term gaming if you want your kids/grandkids to have a gaming experience where they're not exploited by gacha games/live service.

[@lando9184]

But if its good its good, hope for the best prepare for the worst

[@_MaZTeR_]

This needs to be at the top

[@KRawatXP2003]

Call me old school or something but i wanted a singleplayer game.

[@ducko1988]

Everyone I know who games does these days (I am old though)

[@JackGilbert-j5e]

​@@ducko1988old but gold , we got to experience gaming's prime

[@megashawnx4427]

Me too. I have no problem with multiplayer games, but a single player mode would not hurt.

[@CookieeDeluxe]

Wait it doesn't have singleplayer? It's a Marathon remake, that's the only reason I was interested in it.

[@Lagchunk]

​@CookieeDeluxe Not a remake, a reboot. Basically just in name only.

[@Kaliburrrr]

I’ve watched you since 14 years old and I’m 24 on the 8th. I’m a big fan! It’s not been easy, I’ve had to hide in your walls the whole time…but it’s a small price to pay. I’ll always be watching 👀

[@HiddenXperia]

Hope you enjoy watching me play Tarkov over my shoulder!

[@emchargoetz3999]

oi, hand over the pizza, need to eat.

[@tehchief1]

@@HiddenXperiahey xperia can u please tell me the name of the song u used in the intro. Ive been hearing it since i was young but i never managed to find the name.

[@ThatsMike2u]

@@tehchief1Blow Me Away - Breaking Benjamin

[@tehchief1]

@@ThatsMike2u tysm bro

[@GamingTalk-cl7xj]

If 2007 Bungie found a way to time travel and contact you then great but today Bungie is a shell

[@ToxicCoffeeTM]

I'm sorry but I cannot get hyped for this at all. Them changing Marathon from a dark grimy industrial doom like game to a obnoxiously bright and colorful visual slop extraction shooter is no different what 343i did with 4 and 5 in the sense that they're stripping the original games charm in order to pull in a new audience.

[@Neeb-tt9hn]

I agree

[@amak1131]

Never played the original, but I still can't get excited about yet another game chasing a trend.

[@Lynxee3004]

Nah, I don't agree with 4 being in the same bucket. 4 had a great campaign, and the only gripe I remember people had at the time was multiplayer and the way the flood looked, but it didn't ruin it for anyone. 5 had a meh campaign but a good multiplayer despite the slot machine mechanic. Summary: 4 was good, and 5 was okay.

[@legendary9689]

@@Lynxee3004The unnecessary art style change was a big problem as well with Halo 4

[@lxvxsxck]

No one asked you to get hyped. This is a video explaining his experiences while playtesting it.

[@kadette]

Yeah, even with your safe explanation, The hero elements immediately killed it for me

[@udontknowme00]

I'll say what he couldnt say because I'm not under an NDA lmao It's more like the classes from The Finals than it is like heroes form Overwatch. So in The Finals, for example, there's a light, medium, and heavy class. Each class has certain weapons and abilities they can use that other classes can't, but they're also pretty customizable. So light players in general will be faster and more "stealthy" than heavy players, but not every light player will be the same. You can build it for stealth and deception, or you can build it for fast paced aggression. The classes are more like archetypes than anything else, so in Marathon picking the "Stealth" runner roughly defines the play style you'll use, which is stealth obviously, but not every Stealth player will be using the same abilities and weapons and all that. Whereas in a Hero shooter, like Overwatch, every Reaper has the exact same abilities and weapons, every Tracer has the exact same abilities and weapons, etc.

[@TheCartograqher]

@@udontknowme00 if thats true im down. But if it comes and eveyone looks the same and the store is filled with $50-$60 dollar skins im taking a sht on it

[@ellispham4700]

@@udontknowme00 so can we create our own runner like finals? Lol

[@davidvanderven]

​@@udontknowme00That in no way, takes away from the fact that it's an extraction shooter.

[@Blue-qt8ms]

It just gives me some abilities, it’s barely a hero shooter

[@edo1497]

Pretty sure marathon is the next concord

[@cuddlecakes7153]

I really hope it is. Bungie needs to learn their lesson and stop getting away with making slop for the same price as every other game on the market.

[@saltypepper8514]

@@Irithyliafr

[@PsychoMoFoGaming]

​​@@Irithyliadestiny has a small playerbase dude. Income made doesnt decide whether or not a game is good or not these days. All it takes is 1% of a playebase to be consumer whales to create a positive investment return and steadily heavy income stream. 1% of a playerbase for a live service is responsible for 88% to 90% of a games income. This is proven.

[@crusaderking8277]

@@Irithylia Success doesn't equate to game quality.

[@crusaderking8277]

@@Irithylia Haven't played it. Had no interest in it, didn't look good. Don't exactly have the option to play it anymore with its servers shut down, either, even if it was something I intended to pick up and try.

[@PixelationMusic]

The second Marathon was announced I figured it was going to be a flop. From the sounds of it, my theories will probably be correct.

[@PeachDragon_]

Marathon without a campaign is a meaningless cash grab

[@osirisjojo6876]

Marathon is going to be used as a skin suit for another game isn't it

[@ToweringPepsiMan]

Nah DW it's only called marathon, it looks nothing like the old games so it's practically a new franchise

[@marcushazlewood7283]

Hey, Pete's gotta pay for his next McLaren F1 somehow. Those things ain't cheap.

[@osirisjojo6876]

@@ToweringPepsiMan should have used another name

[@audeamus_]

Its probably going to have a story telling method like destiny 2.

[@bander960]

I'll be honest, this game isn't going to be what we all wish it would be as a Marathon game. I don't think this'll be a good entry in the franchise, I don't think it'll uphold the good elements the old games had, and I don't think it'll be anything special or unique. It doesn't help that this isn't the old guard 2000s Bungie, this is Destiny 2 Bungie, and they don't hold the same values for video games

[@VaporShiroVTuberCh]

Anything with modern in the title is a red flag for me. It has to literally be marketed for; LONG TIME FANS OF FRANCHISE if it is not it is Dead on Arrival. Nothing is made for us anymore, this is like watching a puppy with cancer drown. It hurts to see it happening. Modern anything = bad and the sad thing is, it shouldn't be that way but it is.

[@Security_Officer07]

Honestly the game had me so hyped but now I’m just waiting for the concord experience

[@JetBalrog]

I honestly think that continuations of old IPs like this that aren't even remotely in the same general category of the original are more harmful than just letting the IP sit there and do nothing. New people who weren't even alive when the original was around will see this, be bored as hell, and never even give a second thought to the old experience, which still has value today. I hate it.

[@Security_Officer07]

@@JetBalrog exactly!

[@PauzSycho]

what is it with AAA devs making games that nobody wants? this doesn’t appeal to marathon fans since it’s an hero based extraction shooter and it doesn’t matter to extraction shooter fans since the genre is already so oversaturated . this game will almost definitely be DOA.

[@gren8_8nerg]

seems like bungie got infected with wokeness and corruption like 343i

[@Der_Yoloist]

what does DOA mean?

[@MishraArtificer]

@@Der_Yoloist "Dead On Arrival".

[@Tonnyboi]

I want it

[@vyviid]

We haven’t even seen gameplay yet, who fucking knows, it might be shit it might be great, I’m not getting my hopes high, but I’m still curious to see where it might go.

[@PhoenixT70]

1:51 “extraction shooter” And like that, you’ve lost me.

[@arcanum3882]

That genre is just so dull compared to anything else

[@dishonoredhero2763]

If I had a nickel for every damn time I've heard PvPvE Extraction Shooter...

[@dishonoredhero2763]

If I had a nickel for every damn time I've heard PvPvE Extraction Shooter...

[@___Nobody__]

Same. I definitely don’t trust bungie after what they’ve done with D2.

[@M3g4UBERn00b]

Yup, not interested at all

[@___Nobody__]

Bungie is gonna nickel and dime the living shit out of this, D2 is the prime example. Why would anyone in their right mind trust anything modern Bungie does. Irregardless if they invite you to their studio or not

[@cuddlecakes7153]

Yeah, and all while treating their fanbase like absolute shit. Like that one time they openly admitted on Twitter that it doesn't matter what the trailer has in it because "you'll buy it anyways" or when they ripped the game up to sell DLC at the start of D1.

[@___Nobody__]

@@cuddlecakes7153I remember very well the whole, “you’ll throw money at the screen” for the exotic class items in D1 for the hive dlc

[@MrDeadSignal]

The moment I heard extraction shooter.. for MARATHON, I got the same level of dread he expressed with "hero shooter". If they don't flip the table so hard it does a full rotation 20 times before hitting the ground on this genre of gametype it's going to be as memorable as the rest of these types of games. What a sadness... Speaking of Bungie being flippant with critique like this, I am just coming from someone that's just about had it with video games at all, like I am still bound to them its just I am so very much on the fringe of not caring at all that nothing new even means anything to me anymore either. I just like playing party games with friends and testing my reflexes/strategic skills at this point fun little ancedotal things... the hyper-accentuated eyecandy nuclear explosion anime DLC battlepass royale extraction blah blah stuff is totally lost on me and i think a lot of people will understand after consuming it for a little longer.

[@___Nobody__]

@@MrDeadSignalI think it’ll just be marathon in name only. I actually can’t believe Xperia is out here actually kinda sorta defending modern Bungie. As if just a few og Halo devs that are still sticking around makes up for the bullshit the last ten or so years. Bro even had to preemptively defend himself from all the flak he’s rightfully getting in the comments rn.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@cuddlecakes7153and yet they still treat their playerbase better than Hasbro treats Bronies 😂😂😂

[@the_br0wnie294]

Luc I know you were big on the extraction shooter train but that shit died so fast

[@udontknowme00]

just because a trend is dead doesnt mean you cant sill enjoy it and have fun with it. This is a Halo channel. Balanced arena shooters died over a decade ago. And yet we're all still here enjoying them anyways, because it doesnt matter if it's "dead" or not

[@the_br0wnie294]

@@udontknowme00 that’s fantastic, I like that’s he’s doing whatever he wants, I’m just pointing something out homie

[@thenullduck]

Just because shoehorned gamemodes chasing after the trend in popular shooters failed, doesn’t mean the genre as a whole is dead. Tarkov is almost a decade old and is still thriving, Hunt Showdown is also over half a decade old and is doing better than ever. Hell a brand new tarkov “clone” Arena Breakout Infinite just came out into open beta and already has a firm foothold in the industry. A ground up extraction shooter from a competent dev team still has plenty of room to thrive.

[@infernaldaedra]

@@thenullduck Tarkov is flat out dead dude. The entire game is a P2W/P2L marketplace which is operated by the devs and cheaters for huge profits. And streamers get paid to play it. Almost no one actually plays Tarkov anymore it's full of cheaters. Go play Dayz its been out forever and supports mods.

[@jimjam7928]

@@udontknowme00 I'd wager most people who are still fans of Halo are the ones who loved the campaigns and stories.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

Bungie: “The game has changed. Advertising has evolved. Summon the Halo KZbinrs. Let them build our army.”

[@trashjash]

Except with how horribly nuBungie fumbled Destiny 2, and Destiny as a whole IP, as well as their prior IP Halo being completely gutted and tarnished by --343i-- sorry, Halo Studios now, leading people to look from that company over to see how the glorious Bungie of old was doing and seeing the absolute disaster they've become (deleting DLC and things people actually paid for, messing with game systems to be completely anti-player, butchering the story and universe for social commentary and due to the small minds of the writing team, the lethal nickel and diming and rediculously high prices of their chopped up microtransactions, etc), only the most braindead and easily pleased peoples will be excited. The kind of people that enjoy watching the Disney SW trilogy, or the ones that need subway surfers and minecraft and fortnite gameplay all at once to focus on a 30 second short of someone talking about something they know nothing about in order to "develop" an opinion on that thing. Those sorts of people.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@trashjashbro this isn’t a war. You’re talking like the people who like things you hate aren’t even people. Chill out.

[@infernaldaedra]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 Shut up and consoooooom

[@shroomies112]

​@@trashjash please touch some grass man this is just about videogames jesus.....

[@tastefullythick7072]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 unfortunately

[@androssthered1157]

I'm looking at all the old Marathon games and the atmosphere they have and the new one looks like Apex legends in comparison with all the in your face bright colors.

[@jonny45k44]

I love you, dude. But Im not doing an extraction shooter. See ya next vid

[@VeganChiefWarrior]

Adood

[@Atraira]

the fact that they (or you) STILL can't just come out and say _what it is_ re: the hero shooter aspect is really, REALLY worrying to me

[@exitioregem8466]

My ass was expecting marathon to be marathon, not modern genre slop, ffs

[@DarkStalker09]

This doesn’t even remotely resemble the og Marathon

[@trashjash]

Exactly, it's not supposed to. There are only like a handful of people still at current Bungie who worked on or played the original Marathon games. The current class is the sort that butchered down Destiny's cosmic war of fundamental forces down to an emo ex-bf chasing his magical ball ex-gf across the universe to try and taxidermy the whole of reality because that's his thing even though she hates it. And the rediculous levels of filler involving overly emotional cardboard cutouts of characters that the writers play with like their favorite Ken dolls. Why would they be interested in the mystery and intrigue and complicated world of the OG Marathons? Why wouldn't they just make their own sci-fi setting at last, slap some Marathon names and maybe a familiar icon or two on and just call it Marathon in order to try and attract the attention of the masses?

[@gen8901]

Lmao. True

[@Aether-Entropy]

Literally why I have zero interest in it. How could you make a new Marathon game without a campaign?

[@bigdaddynero]

Get over yourself. It's literally been 30 years

[@crusaderking8277]

​@@bigdaddyneroHow does corporate boot taste? You have a game studio purposefully setting a game that is nothing like its predecessors in an established world just to get more artificial hype around and so they don't have to work as hard making something as interesting. And here you are defending the bad practice. People like you are the reason why the overall game market has been terrible. All because "just consoom bro"

[@thegrayghoul4638]

Tellin yall rn, another doo doo extraction shooter made by MODERN Bungie (the same company that REMOVES PAYED EXISTING CONTENT away from its players in Destiny 2) has VERY little to no chance to actually be good. Keep your expectations VERY low. I said similar style things about Starfield and got ripped for it in comments and here we are its the midpack Bugthesda title every reasonable person always knew it would be. Dont set yourselves up for disappointment with yet another modern game. Part of me is envious tbh that people can get this excited nowadays over a game made by a notoriously anti consumer company.

[@_MaZTeR_]

Same company who's CEO invites employees to see his new expensive car and proceeding to lay off everyone the next day

[@cuddlecakes7153]

People don't realize how anti-consumer Bungie really is. The amount of things you have to pay for in that game is INSANE. Even if Marathon doesn't have these features at launch, it WILL ADD them later, once they start to pump money into advertising and the fear of missing out kicks in, just like they did with Destiny. Psychological manipulation

[@tri-thagoras4823]

As a real destiny fan I can say that 99% of destiny players DO NOT care about the content that is removed 😭. Used to be a halo fan but at this point, destiny is just better and now extremely popular 🤣

[@gub4941]

@@tri-thagoras4823that’s like saying one pile of trash is slightly more appetizing than another pile of trash

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@gub4941you say as you stuff your face with shit.

[@BalkanGames]

I just see another Concord situation, namely a game that will be late to the trend-chasing party.

[@BloodBullet0125]

If it was old Bungie, I would be estactic......but it really is not and so....im skeptical at best, but again with the extraction shooter stuff....like....come on When I first heard it was goin to be one I was really hoping it wasnt't and just an early Idea of what the game should be, and now it is goin to be a hero version too......this is getting annoying, just like Battle Royale's

[@agen70range42]

Seriously an extraction shooter that's similar to Tarkov. I'm out. I want to have fun playing my games and not constantly worry about permanently losing my stuff. Lastly, making a game that has rich lore be a multiplayer only game is stupid.

[@infernaldaedra]

Just spend more money dude you won't lose your stuff that way 🤣💳

[@zoriiginalx7544]

Disagree. Permadeath or stakes in video game can make for some of the most poignant and memorable experiences in gaming. It can make it frustrating but it can also make it VERY rewarding.

[@MishraArtificer]

@@zoriiginalx7544 I already have to deal with permadeath in real life: I DON'T need it in a video game.

[@tastefullythick7072]

@@MishraArtificer bro only played Minecraft once since he can only play on Hardcore lmao

[@CL4NDEST1NE]

@@MishraArtificer thats the best answer ive ever seen lmfao

[@1ViivviiX1]

It's interesting that Bungie tried so hard all those years ago to detach themselves from Halo as they wanted to make different things. But then they continue to make nothing but Halo adjacent SciFi shooters that just get more and more like everything else on the market. It's interesting to imagine what if Bungie just continued handling Halo and how things would be right now.

[@ColinCreighton]

I have thought about this before as well. Personally, I think we would have seen Halo stray further from its roots (just as it has under 343), just in a different way. The Bungie of today is hardly the Bungie that made the Halo games. I agree with your statement though, Destiny and seemingly Marathon, are Halo adjacent despite being a different genre.

[@1ViivviiX1]

@ColinCreighton I'm not big into pvp shooters besides Halo and Dark and Darker (not exactly a "shooter", but it's first person and pvp). I believe Halo is considered an arena shooter? And the others are "extraction shooter"? If you could confirm I'd appreciate it. And idk, personally I feel the opposite of your take as Bungie is great at consistently building a world as they did in the 5 Halo Bungie titles. Maybe would've failed in the take of gameplay and micro transactions like Destiny made really lucrative for them. But as a game, world, and direction I feel it would've stayed more consistent which personally I'd prefer because of the fact all games now a days have some form of micro transactions, but at least Halo would feel or look more like Halo at least. That and just the added point it feels their development and leadership was able to stay consistent during their era of Halo games. At least compared to how people have come and gone like crazy since 343(Now Halo Studios) has over the years. But your take is fair even if I disagree. It's still an interesting thought to ponder.

[@ColinCreighton]

@@1ViivviiX1 Yes! Halo is an arena shooter. Marathon looks like it will be an extraction shooter, but Destiny is more of a PvE MMO that is a first person shooter. There is a PvP aspect to it, but it is not really the central point of the game. I guess I agree that Bungie can still make a world. I played a lot of the first Destiny game and a good amount of the second one up until the Cayde 6 death DLC. Destiny's world just never grabbed my attention like Halo has. I love the gameplay, but the story has always seemed like a secondary part of the game. Just like 343 in the recent Halo titles, all of the interesting parts of the lore are learned via grimoire cards or something similar. I totally respect your thoughts too, I just never got too deep into Destiny. Partially due to Bungie's treatment of certain OG Halo guys too, which is not Destiny's fault.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@ColinCreightonDestiny basically invented the looter shooter genre and is nothing like Halo.

[@ColinCreighton]

@jakespacepiratee3740 Boarderlands popularized the looter shooter genre...sure, Destiny helped make the genre even more popular, but it was a genre beforehand. As for game style, that is false. Both are first person shooters that are "jumpy" and "floaty" with co-op PvE and online multiplayer with graphics that are both not photorealistic and not cartoon-like. That is before the plot. While the stories themselves differ largely, they are both about humanity being nearly wiped out, ancient and existential threats, alliances with non human factions, etc. Just because the genre is different does not mean that it isn't Halo adjacent. Also, being Halo adjacent does not mean that Destiny is not original, as it is a very original game. That said, there are many similarities.

[@revolverocelot1380]

Anyone else think the new marathons art style is a little off compared to the original games? So much neon.

[@m.infernal]

rediculous amounts of neon man.

[@revolverocelot1380]

@@m.infernal That's what I was thinking too. Some stuff like the sph't look cool but holy shit it looks like weaponized epilepsy. Also it's lacking that 90s sci fi alien franchise like aesthetic. Like it doesn't have to be a 1:1 of that but it'd be nice if the visual design is an update of the old style. But eh maybe it's just the trailer that looks like this.

[@Visuwyg]

The art style is the only thing keeping me interested tbh. It's not in line with the old games but those didn't really have the strongest art style anyway imo.

[@Ravensbite]

I actually like the artstyle. Graphic realism is some of the most compelling art styles to me and for it to represented in a game in a pretty unique way is interesting to see.

[@revolverocelot1380]

@@Ravensbite They could just tone down the neon a bit though. Hopefully all that is just a stylistic trailer.

[@agodelianshock9422]

Its like getting a call from an ex girlfriend who dumped you and wants you back.

[@holymoly8163]

Man really love it being another extraction shooter slopfest vs a well made single player story driven game as it should’ve been

[@3l_Raro]

It hurts even more after the system shock remake showed that you can have success with a 90's dungeon crawler game

[@unanimousarts]

I mean, if they want to make an extraction shooter they could’ve made it like Witchfire for solo players.

[@gmmg8734]

How about a Single player campaign game with a fully fleshed out Multiplayer to boot with lots of fun modes? Crazy I know.

[@unanimousarts]

Imagine that. 🙌🙌🙌

[@Adamsgotgame]

Since bungie is using the marathon name and not making a continuation, it's a HUGE red flag.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

It takes place after Marathon 2 so it is a continuation.

[@Adamsgotgame]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 but moving to a totally different genre.

[@markricheard1870]

@@Adamsgotgameit’s still the same world, not a reboot.

[@Kanudee]

99% of the people that are going to play the game dont even know the marathon name

[@elytheodst]

Not our Bungie 🗿

[@trashjash]

Eyyy it's the Realistic Arbiter series guy. You make fun vids man. And you're right, this Bungie isn't the studio that even made Destiny 1 at this point, let alone the one that made Halo or the Marathon games before. Just a bunch of corpos wearing the skin of what used to be our friend who actually made those great games nearly 15, 20+ years ago, killed by those same corpos who now hope we fall for their gruesome disguise.

[@elytheodst]

@@trashjash 👌

[@captaincalamitous4948]

Why is Marathon an extraction shooter!? I know I'm behind on this, but, who asked for this? Who in their right mind went and said, "We have this hard Sci-Fi IP about a Cyborg fighting against and from time to time with AI's of all sorts of mental states, with and against alien species throughout multiple timelines; I know what we should do with this, make an extraction shooter out of it after 30 years.". What are these moron's thinking? They could have made bank on just making a redux of the story, fleshing it out a bit more; why ruin this and their already crumbling rep with another bit of soon to be bargain bin slop?

[@Mostima115]

What does it matter, Bungie has been taken over by the same corpo idiots as everyone else. Also: their next game being a Hero-shooter / extraction-shooter basically tells it all already = follow the current trend like 99% of all shooter games at the moment and try to get people to change to their IP... so no big hopes there. Ofc I am open for wonders, but I am not betting on one.

[@markricheard1870]

The Anime industry is also extremely corporate but you put that aside because to like that stuff.

[@infernaldaedra]

@@markricheard1870 No it's because japanese business culture is very different from American. In the US there are now like 5 companies that own everything in our country because the government won't block any mergers whatsoever. So maybe use those cells in your brain you got.

[@giancarlo5945]

It sounds like a very good extraction shotter. The most important thing for me as a fan of the original marathon was the lore, something that in the originals is only counted in terminals and looking at the arg you can see that they have respected it with this game so I am very hyped. for reviving this franchise

[@TheMagicHobo1]

Another extraction shooter bruh 💀 seems to be the new mainstream genre in the gaming industry rn. Guess we’ll see wat happens

[@MyNameisVyke]

You’re stupid bro 😭

[@Ravensbite]

Nah Battle Royales beat it.

[@BattleFrigate]

Existing title glued onto game style it wasn't meant for because it is currently popular. The slow decline of established IPs in the modern gaming space is tiring.

[@dinkleberg7731]

I really hope the Hero Shooter aspect doesn’t ruin this game… I can’t stand any of the new hero shooters coming out

[@udontknowme00]

I'll say what he couldnt say because I'm not under an NDA lmao It's more like the classes form The Finals than it is like heroes form Overwatch. So in The Finals, for example, there's a light, medium, and heavy class. Each class has certain weapons and abilities they can use that other classes can't, but they're also pretty customizable. So light players in general will be faster and more "stealthy" than heavy players, but not every light player will be the same. You can build it for stealth and deception, or you can build it for fast paced aggression. The classes are more like archetypes than anything else, so in Marathon picking the "Stealth" runner roughly defines the play style you'll use, which is stealth obviously, but not every Stealth player will be using the same abilities and weapons and all that. Whereas in a Hero shooter, like Overwatch, every Reaper has the exact same abilities and weapons, every Tracer has the exact same abilities and weapons, etc.

[@dinkleberg7731]

@@udontknowme00 that sounds interesting, but I have other problems with hero shooters. Like how everyone ends up looking like the same 15 people repeated over and over just with different “skins”. People will also always use the broken heros. I just wish they didn’t have it at all, but maybe it plays good

[@MishraArtificer]

@@udontknowme00 Oh, so it's Anthem without the flight mechanics?

[@SpottedHares]

During the Activsion separation we learned the lifetime sales of D1 was 10m compared to the 20m year 1 prediction. So yea Marathon probably has some really bs level of sales predictions.

[@commissardale]

Edit: AND A HERO SHOOTER? Pfffffft LMAO absolutely DOA >main dev worked on Valorant >extraction shooter Bro this game is going to be ASS lmao

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4464]

Seeing everyone in this comments section show unanimous disgust towards the Marathon reboot fills me with a child-like joy that Bungie hasn't been able to elicit in the last decade.

[@StupidSmut]

its great love that everyone is over live service games.

[@Corrie-4095]

6:10 So what you're telling me is the flood are in marathon? 👀

[@QueenNagaJacie]

>Shitty Hero-Shooter >Shitty Extraction Shooter >Made by Modern Bungie >will probably remove content after the game’s first year of being online >is probably gonna be Free to Play after Concord was a failed >Another Flop from Sony

[@MyNameisVyke]

Did you watch the video

[@FloatingAmongTheCosmos]

@@MyNameisVyke Doesn't matter if they saw it or not to be honest.

[@MyNameisVyke]

@@FloatingAmongTheCosmos yes it does bro, Xperia literally just talked about how Extraction fits Marathon well and had good lore bits and story telling, how the hero aspect wasn’t what he expected it was going to be (how everyone expects it to be) it was mostly praises and improvements. People see stuff online and immediately assume without even seeing a gameplay trailer yet.

[@QueenNagaJacie]

@@MyNameisVyke yes I have watched the video, however considering that this Marathon is being made by the same company that removed content from Destiny 2 and the fact that it’s going to be a Hero-Shooter and a Extraction Game means nobody will be interested in it and it will fail

[@MyNameisVyke]

@@QueenNagaJacie there’s nothing wrong with extraction games, and very recently Bungie confirmed they are not following the Hero shooter formula. It’s not a hero shooter. Not to mention Destinys team isn’t the same as Marathons. Yes it’s all Bungie but the teams are not the same.

[@thedeviousmelon]

I swear this guy didn't wanna support Bungie because of their recent actions...

[@Valkyrae123]

That’s all the halo youtubers they always switch up when they’re presented a check to advertise a game, always take everything they say with a grain of salt

[@___Nobody__]

⁠@@Valkyrae123when it’s a studio with legendary titles and they fly you out and let you try their game before the public has seen it and it’s a studio with a irreversible tarnished reputation, it’s very hard to take a certain someone’s opinion seriously. Xperia even had to preemptively defend himself in the video because he knew he was gonna get ate up in the comments. Which he currently is

[@BrabyTheCool177]

@@Valkyrae123wouldn’t you tho???

[@markricheard1870]

@@___Nobody__yeah poor guy is bullied by hate mobs way too much.

[@UnrulyRantLord]

It's slimy but his Halo videos are too damn good so.....

[@icy1172]

Genuinely excited for this. I’ve been an advocate for extraction shooters. Despite the obvious risk of losing gear, it is the only PVP mode that somehow feels casual at the same time. I hope more Tarkov rivals come through swinging; I want more of this.

[@Highrollinhunter]

Extraction shooters are so boring and dull especially Vigor the only extraction shooter I enjoyed was DMZ and now its dead. Im mad that the new Marathon is going to be an extraction shooter instead of an Halo like boomer shooter with no sprint and just pure fun.

[@AVENGERX51]

I'm gonna keep it a buck with you, the second you said "extraction shooter", all of my interest went right out the door. I consider it to be a scourge on game development, like the Battle Royale trend, because everyone tries to replicate the success of one game that struck gold, which means fewer resources for the core games that try to catch this lightning in a bottle, a la Battlefield. I'm glad you love it, and I hope Bungie finds success with this new entry, but I'm checking out of this one.

[@TCRP117]

They couldn't have engineered this game to be less appealing to me as fan of Marathon, gaming and stories if they'd tried. The idea that a return to the narrative de-prioritisation or absence that was the hallmark of early video gaming is some bold new form of storytelling is laughable. That its sidelining is some artistic choice to tell an optional tale along the margins of player agency rather than just a begrudged concession towards a fanbase that was not expecting a mechanics only, check-boxes by-the-numbers 2020's live-service cash shop masquerading as a video game.

[@Kratos7560]

How close to Marathon's weapon roster does this Marathon extraction shooter get? Have there been any notable art directions in the map and character designs that match the OG titles? What timeline does the story take place in, given Marathon Infinite's branching realities? I don't want Bungie to butcher such a keystone game that helped get them to their golden age.

[@trashjash]

Too late, if anything D2 is to go by then this is a very, very badly done reboot which is Marathon in name only.

[@Pertlight]

Glad to see people calling BUNGIE in the comments.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

@@Pertlight I'm very happy too because Destiny fanboys are relentless in changing the narrative that Destiny isn't the worst game on the market. I bet many of them will buy Marathon despite none of them having played an extraction shooter before, nor caring about the existence of them before this either

[@iloveyoual32]

I hope others enjoy the game but I have 0 interest in it. I do not play extraction shooters and find calling this game "Marathon" confusing, frankly. This is absolutely nothing like the Marathon games I fell in love with and I really hope this trend stops. I can't wait until we finally get another Dino Crisis that’s a PvP only Battle Royal Live Service game

[@unanimousarts]

Absolutely this. ☝️

[@FloatingAmongTheCosmos]

If only it was possible to get hyped for this.. like at all. Sorry, Hidden.

[@QrazyQuarian]

When they said that it had "aggressively changed", I was really hoping that it would remove the extraction shooter elements, the parts that everyone had universally panned when it was announced. The fact that Luc did not outright deny the Hero Shooter aesthetic signals to me that Bungie is trying to outdo Concord in the worst ways possible.

[@SonicSanctuary]

its a goddamned extraction shooter!? EXCUSE ME?! Oh hell no that's the most infuriating type of PVP of all. you can have all your progress reset to nothing because some jack off is camping somewhere across the map with a sniper or something. then your in the hole and have nothing but defult shitty gear and have to start all over.

[@boo0167]

After the hiatus Bungie has been going through with Destiny 2, and their lay offs of OG employees... It's not even Bungie anymore, it's not even gonna be Bungies original vision of Marathon. Just a name we know, tarnished by heretics

[@TrashMail-ri3ci]

Heretics is the best word for it

[@markricheard1870]

@@TrashMail-ri3ciyeah because the haters act like the Covenant 🤣🤣🤣

[@ryanhammond5989]

If it had a lore rich, single player campaign with a boomer shooter vibe & arena style death match multiplayer, I'd be on board. But what I'm hearing is pvp extraction shooter with hero shooter elements, if that's the case I'll pass. And let's be real, it's gonna be monetized to hell.

[@blackmesacake5361]

I just cant imagine how this would be a good thing for Marathon. I want to be wrong of course, but i dont see this helping push people into investing in the unverse, and i certainly dont feel like this game being a success will do anything beyond getting us more extraction shooters with the Marathon name attached.

[@barnaclejones822]

It won't matter how good it is as an extraction shooter. It's really just that they're intentionally doing this to imply that Bungie is connected, at all, to its roots. It's even sadder because they know a lot of fans would absolutely eat up a Marathon remake or new game that advances & modernizes the original formula whilst staying true to what made Bungie's design philosophy click. It's so funny too because early Bungie was known for its innovation and unwillingness to abide by industry standard & trends. We got Halo 1 as a result of a constantly evolving game design formula, and you can see a lot of what Halo derived from in Marathon. We've been shown, obviously, that Bungie is not interested in innovation. Bungie isn't the same company that made Desert Storm, Pathways, Myth, Marathon, or Halo. It's been known since they were originally bought out by Activision.

[@nolanglahn8528]

If it's a pvp extraction shooter, count me out. No thanks.

[@travisvanalst4698]

How does Marathon not get a team dedicated to making it a single player campaign? It’s what it originally was. Look at all of the greatest games the past 10 years: God of War, Horizon series, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne, Hogwarts Legacy, Zelda series….all single player games, mostly all GOTY….unless you’re CoD, Fortnite, or Apex, you’re not going to have a successful time. This is clearly a paid promotion lol.

[@sluggerbutter]

why can’t they just make a cool single player shooter lol

[@unanimousarts]

It completely baffles my mind.

[@theincrediblefella7984]

And just like that you lost me.

[@Diocesyn]

As someone’s whose played destiny since the D1 alpha I will not be purchasing marathon I simply do not trust bungie

[@3l_Raro]

Got the same feeling I got back when Destiny 1 got announced, was super hyped, and then all of that hype died the moment I learned it was a multiplayer game. Yeah, there are mobs/npcs to fight against but like I dont care for playing against other randos for a plus rare purple gizmo

[@cb225]

Man you can't be excited for this after playing the og marathon.

[@PixelationMusic]

If Sony wants this game to be successful, it has to launch on PC same day as PS5. Games like this need a large population at launch.

[@KokotoHero-N3]

"Extraction Shooter and a Hero Shooter" Quite literally the 2 least interesting genres mashed together, yippee.

[@soldaatjhu]

Honestly, Bungies take on the extraction forumula is already 2 years too late.

[@STUFFfromthegooddays]

I really hope there’s some deep lore in this game!

[@PixelationMusic]

Knowing Bungie it will probably be forced onto their website

[@trashjash]

The lore is going to be about this old grandpa who loves his bangbot model 14... and they're gay, so you can't think it's weird that this is the focus in a gritty, dark, violent universe full of manmade and cosmic horrors. Which will only be hinted at, then retconned into an emo Megamind with a talent for taxidermy rather than being a cosmic horror entity when the writers realize they can't do grand, cosmic entities and threats well at all since they prefer writing about the grandpa and his bf, and all their other little carboard cutout characters they use to vent their personal issues through. Just speculating based on what Destiny 2 got morphed into when they changed the writing team around the time the Shadowkeep DLC was being scraped together.

[@uggdug8874]

There's already been several ARGs including an 80-or-so page manifesto of Morrowind-level writing that's fleshed out the setting incredibly.

[@lex3191]

‘I played this guy the most’, not I played this class the most. It seems to me that Bungie either doesn’t understand or is deliberately ignoring what players want. ‘Hero’ and pre designed character are the same thing. We want to create our own characters not select a pre-made one. You’re just removing the heroes name and assigning it a class. If you gotta constantly side step the truth then maybe you’re doing something wrong!

[@tkxbetrayer2405]

Wow. Way to destroy the revival of a beloved IP before it can be realized. an extraction shooter? Has Bungie lost their minds or are they just stupid? Lets take a universally loved FPS from the 90s and tease a remake only to subvert our expectations in the worst way possible. Way to go Bungie! Chasing trends that aren't even trends. Genious. This would be like rebooting Doom again and having it come back as battle royale. Say what you want about Bethesda/Id Software, but at least they did it right. SMH

[@DragonShinobi]

As a Destiny OG and seeing what Bungie has done to it, No amount of youtubers and PR is going to get me on board. I don't mean to give their flak to you but all I see is Bungie trying to get another group of players and pull the rug out again. I want all my original Destiny 2 content back and Pete Parsons fired as a start before I consider another Bungie game.

[@ToastedToastyToaster]

I'm glad you are excited but god I cannot care at all about "Marathon", atleast what they've turned it into.

[@RiskyClick96]

I'm absolutely looking forward to the lore videos you're going to make about this game. The story and world of the OG trilogy is among my favorite of all time for the very "storytelling" reasons you bring up in this video. As for the game itself? Nothing about Bungie's marketing thus far has been able to shake the stench of "live service extraction shooter" for me, and I really doubt they ever will. They can come back when I can experience the entire story without ever having to sniff the online mode.

[@TAIDA_-y3p]

I dont know, i did lose faith in BUNGIE #2 a long time ago, so im gonna stay skeptical until i actually see something. I mean let's be fair, this is the 3rd try they make with MARATHON and i am not counting the "OG" version they made before HALO. 🤔

[@bepisyeet]

I am not big on extraction shooters. A Doom clone would have caught my attention more.

[@unanimousarts]

That would’ve been amazing. 🤘

[@johnsnow2845]

Nothing against you man, it’s just not enticing at all. I don’t trust any of these people and all the descriptions of this game are a series of huge red flags.

[@spartains5493]

I like Tarkov but honestly I'm tired of extraction shooters and hero shooters and all of that kind of stuff. I'm almost just tired of multiplayer shooters in general. They're all the same; a sweaty, lifeless hero shooter, an equally sweaty, lifeless extraction shooter, or a modern Call of Duty clone. Please God, just give us basic story driven shooters with simple multiplayer modes, like Halo 3 or Reach, or World at War or Modern Warfare 2.

[@viscotel]

They're smart to be giving play tests to content creators, people who actually want to play the game. I feel like 343 gave out play tests to goldfish

[@wolf7115]

I've wanted them to reboot marathon for years, except make it a Halo-like. Not another extraction game....

[@mrbismarckyt]

I’m going to say this game is going to fail in the long run, compared to Warhammer and many other non play to win games.

[@shadoweddragonfilms4424]

So... An extraction shooter that's literally exactly the same as every other extraction shooter out there at the moment. Another game I'll be passing on.

[@rc_aw11_mr24]

Oh wow another preexisting IP being continued through a trendy type of game from a couple years ago that definitely hasn’t already overstayed its welcome. I’m sure this will totally work out for Bungie (in name only), surely they won’t suffer from this decision and Respaw… I mean Bungie (in name only) will definitely get to making another more traditional game in their beloved IP eventually.

[@Starcat5]

Campaign or no sale.👿

[@m0urn1ng5tar5]

This game is going to be garbage. I stopped paying attention when I heard "extraction shooter" That's not even getting into the kind of developer Bungie is nowadays compared to the guys that created Marathon.

[@sakkra93]

I wanted it to just be a straight-up remaster of the original Marathon, I think that would have been so good. I'm filled with doubts about this, tbh. I think Bungie should remaster the originals, and then use those as the basis for future Marathon projects.

[@RedeyedMonster55]

BLINK THREE TIMES IF YOU NEED HELP HIDDEN

[@GAZAMAN93X]

No fleshed out story mode? Gonna skip this one

[@SamDoe-wh3bf]

My god everyone is SO NEGATIVE about EVERY game thats coming out. its not even healthy skepticism, people are just down right depressing and BANKING on these games to be dead before they even release. Everyone has become so jaded.

[@okankyoto]

Maybe nobody wants what they're pitching.

[@SamDoe-wh3bf]

@@okankyoto sounds good to me.

[@TheMalMeninga]

As a Marathon fan from back in the Mac days I want this game to be successful, but it being an extraction shooter has killed my personal interest in it stone dead. :(

[@LDSG_A_Team]

So it's Rainbow Six: Tarkov. Cool. Moving on with my life now.

[@selbergful]

I’m old and grouchy so I will never buy a multiplayer only live service gain again in my life. But I guess these games are probably still being made for 12-17 year olds like I was 20 years ago. Sucks to no longer be the target demographic anymore 😂

[@unanimousarts]

Check out Witchfire, if you haven’t heard of it yet. It’s still in early access but the current version is highly focused on solo gameplay. It’s inspired by Destiny and Dark Souls with roguelike and extraction mechanics sprinkled in. Coming from heavily playing Destiny 1 back in the day, Witchfire is the single player answer. The only thing missing are armor builds, which probably won’t become a feature unless they decide to build it into a sequel. Gun and magic gameplay screams of Destiny however.

[@selbergful]

@@unanimousarts Cool I'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation!

[@unanimousarts]

@@selbergful Right on, mate! Hope you like the game!

[@stephenwilcockson3498]

As a destiny player marathon just annoys me because I know it's taken focus of bungie away from destiny and the new marathon doesn't interest me at all

[@DredgenStorm]

I'm gonna honest here, I don't think Marathon will even release with how bad things have gotten with Bungie. I doubt they have the manpower

[@Singleraxis]

So basically it's Concord.

[@AncientPangolinGaming]

sorry man. its all talk until the game is out and is properly reviewed. who knows what itll look like when it finally releases. i just feel its gonna be more Destiny than anything but a focus way more on monetization. AAA games are just garbage now, im happy with the indie/small dev scene. also, studio loyalty needs to GO. they are no longer what we grew up with; they are just commodities, and even if they make a banger, will be sold to another investment firm so they can be sure to suck the life out of it while they monetize it to death.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

I'm glad you mentioned studio loyalty because there are so many Destiny fans that never gave a single sh*t about extraction shooters but now will all congregate and buy Marathon just because it's Bungies newest title.

[@TheDrov]

Ok, I’m not falling for any more of these nothing burger Marathon videos.

[@_YourFlyIsOpen]

Considering how down bad Bungie is currently, I wouldn’t be their rebound girl personally, but cool for you nonetheless.

[@Kirisutekarl]

I realized a minute in you had Blow Me Away in the background and that always makes me happy. Just saw BB last Friday in Austin TX. Was such a fun time. Great show. The Easter eggs they showed to Halo during BMA was a awesome little touch.

[@Servellion]

Cool....They gonna remove paid content like they did with Destiny? Cause I don't trust my money with those idiots without an answer.

[@lildevilzQT]

i love watching Hidden xperia but this is like 343 making halo its not bungie making marathon