This Mario Fan Game SHOULD Have Been Amazing...

[@GottaBeFrank]

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[@Cliffordlonghead]

First

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Awesome video

[@LuigiChannel50]

I love this game quite a bit, But its length can definitely get exhausting after a while if you're planning on going through the entire thing in one session. My playthrough lasted for about 55 hours across ten individual sessions. So yeah, It's a LARGE game, And the fact that it's STILL in development after all of these years is insane. I remember playing it back when most of the levels were filled with frustrating auto scrollers, It's certainly come a long way since that time.

[@GottaBeFrank]

Yeah. I'm surprised at how well it felt to control, with its large roster.

[@Garrulous64]

Some of those stages look reaaally cool. I still gotta try this one out

[@GottaBeFrank]

Yeah. Honestly, Mega Man with Mario-style movement is absolutely broken in the best possible way.

[@jackojoyfox8015]

Beautiful game. My childhood loved it when it was still an unfinished one

[@GottaBeFrank]

Apparently, it's still unfinished.

[@radboy490]

Is super Mario fusion revival finished?

[@names_are_useless]

@@radboy490 It was canceled, but is being revitalized by the creator JudgeSpear (who started MKF).

[@jfost281]

​@@names_are_useless Where'd you hear that?

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

I kinda disagree with the "too many levels" notion. I personally am enjoying going through every single one of them and always getting excited, when I recognise a level representing a franchise! This game is definitely made for the hardcore gamers, who know their gaming tropes! Heck, I would've loved to see MORE levels from MORE franchises! (but that's just me) Here's a tip: If it starts to feel like it's slowing down, take a break and do something else! You really shouldn't be in the "I gotta finish this!" mentality! Play only when you WANT to, play only when it feels fun! I know a lot of you probably don't have the endless patience I do, but if you shorten your play sessions and adopt a "in the moment" mentality, not thinking about how much there is, just going bit by bit. You'll find, that you're actually blazing through most stages kinda fast! I would absolutely recommend this game to anyone, who's a gaming veteran, and knows a lot of gaming franchises in general!

[@sadmed]

i agree with all that you said lol dude doesn't seem to get the concept of taking a break even if it needs to be a long one

[@MrChipathenIsMyDoggo]

@@sadmedHe should’ve just delayed the video to a year or more and maybe then he would’ve called it the best fangame ever.

[@krazyivan9733]

Agreed. The game is amazing on its sheer variety alone. Yeah world one and three can be a bit samey, but everything beyond that is incredibly varied, as there are no franchise specific themed worlds after those. And bruh... It's free. And you get to have Duke Nukem Wario.

[@eltiolavara9]

yep

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

Y'all know it! 😎👉👉

[@Mr.Autism2]

Nice video man I love mushroom kingdom fusion best game and it's my favorite also sonic is not a bad character in this game you should feel bad for that plus samus joins mushroom kingdom fusion as a playable character

[@GottaBeFrank]

I feel bad for nothing... said in this video. He really didn't play as well as the rest of the characters.

[@RedSupernova64]

I remember playing this game back when Version 0.5 launched and I'm happy to see that despite all of the hardships and burnouts from older devs, a lot of people still haven't given up on this game and will make sure it will be completed till the very end. I haven't played the recent versions sadly but from my experience there were SO MANY glitches and BS difficulty spikes in so many levels it was nuts. The fact that I completed almost all of the levels from that build still surprises me today. But to hear that so many levels have been rebalanced does make me look forward to revisiting the game. Personally I don't mind the fact that the game is super huge. The concept behind this game being a giant adventure through all of gaming means infinite possibilities for level concepts. But I understand why it can get exhausting after awhile. Taking breaks so you won't get burnout is strongly advised.

[@eltiolavara9]

the bs difficulty spike levels got toned down but there's still a few, they're way better tho

[@mushroomkingdomfusionplayt9972]

If it helps. Whenever you want to get back into it. They have a debug mode so you can just clear the levels to save time and try out the memorable levels.

[@TheSwordsman100]

Going by that comment, as Sonic actually is one of the best characters in MKF, I'm going to guess that you didn't try using the run button. As for your main complaint, I'm sorry but not only do I disagree, I find it utterly baffling. Maybe its because you felt pressured to make a video on it instead of playing it at your own pace? As just playing it normally I never got felt it was too long.

[@TheRadFungas]

Rock using a shotgun is my new favorite thing

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Donkey Kong 64 but, as a Mario game except the Golden Bananas are levels.

[@Its-Boshy-time]

the fact this fangame added morshu as the merchant is amazing

[@KuWota2k]

Really fun game and video. I feel like the overload of levels + the fatigue it causes is mainly due to how long this game's been in development for (since 1999!!! with this iteration being in the works since 2008 or so.). It's nice the new devs haven't given up but wow it is just growing and growing.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

I definitely need to check this out.

[@Solesteam]

I saw the title and thought wow there's a new cool fanga- ... there's quite a bit SHOULD there... I'm concerned.

[@GottaBeFrank]

It's a concern that seems to not be shared with everyone, but it's still a cool game to play. It'll just take more sessions than your average Mario game.

[@Solesteam]

@@GottaBeFrank After watching the entire thing it seems to be the exact game I'm looking for, one that I won't be completing anytime soon regardless how much time in a day is spent on it.

[@Travis-ea4205]

Also, imagine they add Bubsy, they'll make him a joke character

[@names_are_useless]

The current Fusion Team wants to avoid adding in any new characters (they removed Metaknight and Ryu Hayubusa, and no longer plan to do Kirby, Samus, Firebrand from Gargoyle's Quest or others that had been planned). They're real strict about just trying to finish the game and not widening the game's scope anymore at this point.

[@Mr.Autism2]

@@names_are_useless Ashley man they brought back samus as a playable character

[@wesleyjones4036]

mushroom kingdom fusion is a part of my childhood. its repetitive and draining but in microdoses its pretty good

[@GottaBeFrank]

Yeah. I wished it would have been split into 2 or 3 games, so it wouldn't take too long to get to the end.

[@killerb255]

@@GottaBeFrankBest thing to do is pretend that it really is multiple games instead of one big game.

[@bigchungus7870]

The reason there are so many levels is because this game was worked on for years

[@eltiolavara9]

you should use the "bad" characters more, arthur is very good in some boss fights and levels with few pitfalls (and world 3, but yeah for a lot of stuff hes a challenge character), and roll is actually really solid, her health isnt that bad compared to megaman actually and she's way faster as for sonic, i think he's insanely good because he can hit enemies from below and completely trivialize a lot of levels by just breezing thru them, his handling isnt bad when you get used to it :)

[@randompog8493]

Man what's wrong with a game being long if you're not doing the same 3 things over and over again If the games got content what's wrong playing it all, even if it takes a while Otherwise I feel like the games gonna be over before you realize it is, and then it's critiqued for being way too short. It feels like a hot-cold thing I have never heard of a game being too long when it has interesting things tbh, and for frontiers and other content packed long games I hope they don't get the same treatment. I know they aren't very comparable to this, I've just never heard of that issue and it could loosely apply to frontiers or already existing games Can you please tell me what makes a game too long when its as variety packed as this, I don't think I fully understand this issue The video probably explained but I'm still at a slight loss. I feel like it wouldn't be a chore if it kept going. There'd always be more available the next time. It shouldn't feel like you have to finish it all at once

[@Ninetails2000]

It's because too much of a good thing can be harmful to the overall pace of the game. As he said, as he was playing through the game he would get to a point where he felt "Okay, this world should be wrapping up by now, right?" only to find that he wasn't even a third of the way done with the world. After a certain point a concept or level theme can overstay it's welcome and get boring, which makes it more and more of a slog to progress through all the levels. Thirty levels per world means you're playing an entire fangame worth of content and there's nine worlds in the game. You'd be hard pressed to find any game that can pull something like that off without getting tiresome. Part of game development and flow is figuring out how much is too much and when to move on to the next thing. It's cool that there's SO MUCH content but especially if you're trying to see as much of the game as you can in one sitting or just doing a casual playthrough, all of it starts to turn into busywork before you can see the next world, the next boss, the ending. It's like if you had a five course meal but each course was it's own meal worth of food. So you have to eat a pile of salad, a pot of soup, an entire slab of steak, a gallon of wine and an entire wedding cake and you can't leave the table until you eat it all. It's all great food but after so much of it, you want to move on to the next thing. You could always stop eating the salad and move on to the steak but then the salad is still there.

[@randompog8493]

@@Ninetails2000 yeah, I see somewhat. Though i dont think you have to finish it in one go, so I see it as an opportunity to come back for seconds rather than feel like you eat it all at once. And the diners always open for you to order it, and you aren't pressured to finish one whole meal all at once. I'm not a huge judge of what is too much or too little, if a game has interesting content I don't care how long it takes me. I also get that, it shouldn't be too long so then you can see the new style of content These matters must be difficult to judge as a game developer I would assume

[@GottaBeFrank]

Wow. You explained it better than I could ever have. Thank you for that. 😊

[@randompog8493]

@@GottaBeFrank yeah I'm thankful for people who can do that for me and others too.

[@names_are_useless]

It really needs Cutscenes and Story Points, which the Team is looking to add towards the End (there is a story with this game, but they're already considering cutting out some of the really good bits from it). More varied Bonus Levels would help too (and I know they want to add some). The only world I'd consider having "too many levels" is World 1 (Mushroom Kingdom). 44 Levels in Total! The others only have around 20, which feels right. World 5 only has 12. Honestly, wouldn't be upset with World 2 (Alternative Earth) and World 8 (Avenue of Memories) in particular getting more Levels because of the HUGE Franchise Variability these worlds represent (not a single Ninja Gaiden Level even though Ryu is playable).

[@SomeRobIoxDude]

30 levels in one world!?!?!? And theres 10????????????? And its still in the works???????????? My man thats a bit overwhelming

[@GottaBeFrank]

Yeah. Again, this could be cut into thirds and would make for 3 great fan games.

[@AlexStarl1ght]

@@GottaBeFrank but what's the difference between playing one long game or 3 shorter games?

[@Tailstraw_xD]

Every time I hear Cave Story music it makes me want to cry

[@Kratos7560]

I would recommend having each world have branching paths to mitigate the time it takes to get past each world.

[@GottaBeFrank]

That would make it better to mix things up.

[@names_are_useless]

It kind of already does. Lots of Secret Exits with Optional Levels and Warps to Other Worlds.

[@eltiolavara9]

i dont think theyre going to add branching paths, but the unlockable stuff will make it more varied i think

[@lpfan4491]

I feel like the issue seems to be more on the pacing and less on the amount. 30 worlds with 9 levels each feels more rewarding than 9 worlds with 30 levels each, simply for the factor of each world completion being its own minor celebration that gives more motivation to keep going. Actually, that's literally the reason why we still seperate worlds to begin with. We could simply approach it as a huge levellist like those ancient nostalgic mobile and flash-games, but that's just incredibly unappealing. Having several smaller chunks of content is much more approachable and leads to overall tighter pacing.

[@names_are_useless]

One of the big problems is that World 1: Mushroom Kingdom is 44 Levels, and the rest are all around 20. World 1, and all based on Mario Levels, which look mostly the same (except for the Fusion Levels near the end) ... it can feel like a slog compared to the others. Not only are the other Worlds smaller, but most include elements from other franchises, making each of those Worlds feel fresher. I wish this project had been planned from the start as a "Franchise Fusion Platformer" as opposed to its original conception of a Mario Game with some other Franchises sprinkled in. Likely would have meant a greater balance in the amount of Levels and Franchise Representation.

[@krazyivan9733]

​​@@names_are_uselessou are exactly correct. Worlds one and three are the only two worlds which are based on specific franchises rather than generic themes. And they do get a bit samey after a while. Imo the best world in the game is the demon realm, and gehenna a close second. They are both just so stylish and varied and have excellent quality levels between them.

[@eltiolavara9]

@@names_are_useless yeah it's definitely a lot, you can leave for other worlds if youre tired of mario levels very early on but yea at least they're gonna revamp a bunch of world 1 stuff

[@names_are_useless]

@@krazyivan9733 Avenue of Memories (world 8) and Edge of Beyond (World 9) are becoming some of my favorites now that they're getting attention. The new Tutorial Level and controls in the Player Select screen are also really helpful. And with an Unlockable Character System planned for v1.0, encouraging jumping around worlds, I think is really going to help the "Too Many World 1 Levels" issue they have right now. (Samus and Ryu are also dope additions in recent releases, some of the best to play)

[@TayoEXE]

Holy snap, this fangame brings back memories!

[@Fatih_M177]

I remember seeing this game as a kid, and i didn't knew the name of it, now i that i know, i...still feel empty lol

[@sonic-gf8vr]

"if I were to play this game I would kind of limit myself on how many levels I play or kind of make a list of what to do maybe something like 10 or 5 levels a day?..."

[@GottaBeFrank]

The problem is that some levels balloon in length. If there was a long level every 10 levels, or so, I'd be fine with it. These are back to back.

[@luispalacios8423]

Totally disagree with the ammount of levels. No one is forcing you to finish the game in one session, that's why it has a save option.

[@GottaBeFrank]

This wasn't from one session. This was 3 or 4 sessions.

[@sloppyjoe2687]

Anyone know how i can config a controller ps3/ps4 using wine on a mac os for this game

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Awesome video

[@GottaBeFrank]

Thanks!

[@helmetluigi]

It is amazing, really fun game, I agree with sonic/tails movement though, hard to control

[@mattb6522]

Good review! Waluigi is playable in the newest version as well. I actually beat all the available levels over the course of a few months. I do agree that the game can be a bit overwhelming with the number of levels. There were some levels that were a bit too much of a challenge and a bit overkill to halt the player's progress (this game throws everything at you in later levels). I agree the Fusion Team should really trim or cut some content to really focus the game a bit more. The game is still unfinished, but I feel like they could cut a bit to make this a more manageable project. I would love to see an actual ending to this one. I agree about Sonic and Tails. They were like the only characters I couldn't really play as compared to the other characters. If you really like 8 and 16 bit games, you really owe it to yourself to play through this one. Though, I'd recommend turning on *Debug Mode* to skip a few levels as the game does really run a bit too long at points.

[@SonicZuki]

Sonic Is actually Fun to Play as imo in this game

[@GottaBeFrank]

Idk. I found it weird to play as him. Didn't feel like any game I'm familiar with, so controlling him took a while to adjust to.

[@Travis-ea4205]

WHERE'S X?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@Travis-ea4205]

I'm talking about mega man x

[@thebigdawgj]

No game can be "way too big". If you ever think that about a game, you lose the right to consider yourself a gamer.

[@GottaBeFrank]

This is a complete lie. All games have a point to where it's not as fun to play because it'll keep on going. At some point, you gotta wrap it up.

[@thebigdawgj]

@Gotta Be Frank You're right. Your comment is a complete lie. I'm glad you can admit your fault.

[@eltiolavara9]

i disagree, games can drag on for way too long like for example isaac repentance is my favorite game of all time but what it asks of you to unlock every item is pretty fucking ridiculous

[@killerb255]

@@thebigdawgjTry playing one of those endless games of the 80s. Duck Hunt, Spy Hunter, Pac-Man (with a kill screen patch), Donkey Kong (with a kill screen patch).

[@thebigdawgj]

@killerb255 I have! I remember the first time I actually got to the "end" of Duck Hunt. I was puzzled when it looped back around to stage 1. I was a kid, I didn't understand at the time.

[@Zane_TMH]

This game has how many levels? I have never played a platformer that had half the number of levels in it.

[@GottaBeFrank]

Too many levels

[@theophilecaceres5855]

Cool to see people talking about this game for once, but yeah, this is pretty much what people call "junk food" games, play too long, you'll hate it.

[@GottaBeFrank]

Exactly!

[@randompog8493]

I see, a dumbed down way to explain this to people like me who need it dumbed down Never had games like that imo but I'm not a huge judge

[@-PV-]

Junk Food?

[@ChairyCrasher]

Really cool. No Waluigi character :(

[@taxmaniaa]

Actually, Waluigi is playable in MKF

[@ChairyCrasher]

@@taxmaniaa What powers does Waluigi have?

[@mattb6522]

@@ChairyCrasher Waluigi plays similar to Wario as he also has a dash/air-dash. He gets a Strikers power-up to shoot bouncing soccer balls, a Shade Man suit to shoot sonic waves, a Captain Falcon suit, as well as a Contra power up w/machine gun...I think he gets a few others as well.

[@AlexStarl1ght]

OK, I'll be honest here. The author seem to suffer from either anxiety of "ticking the "I finished the game" box", or anxiety of "I need to finish games in one sitting". What's the difference between playing 10 small games with like 20 levels each or one big game with 200? NONE. This was an awfully bad take.

[@not_kjb]

I forgot who you are, what was your original channel name?

[@GottaBeFrank]

You can always look at an older video and find out.

[@not_kjb]

Ok, also I figured it out.

[@krazyivan9733]

If you stopped at world 3 you'd be missing out on the best and most memorable stages in the game. I consider your criticism invalid

[@GottaBeFrank]

I disagree. Sure, I missed out on many memorable levels, but the game's length is exhausting. On top of that, there were some bad levels that could have been scrapped, to shorten the length of the worlds. Sure, it would means something gets left out, but at some point, they have to trim the excess and let the best levels shine and make the appeal even greater. Considering my criticism invalid is just you refusing to hearing me out. You don't have to agree, but to label it as invalid is sad.

[@krazyivan9733]

@@GottaBeFrank it's still a completely unfair criticism to say that there is too much. The game is free, therefore, you have nothing to be upset at other than your lack of drive to complete it. And whether or not a level is bad is just an opinion. I agree, There are bad levels. I HATE Bugmuck Swamp in world 6, but here's the thing; it deserves to exist. Every game has bad levels, but we get through them so we can play the good levels. That's how games work.

[@luispalacios8423]

@@GottaBeFrank No one forced you to play the game for 12 hours. You just wanted to make a video about it and then complain that it was too long.

[@MariettaTrent]

sssssssome big game!

[@SecretSquaff]

Your only issue with this sounds like a big non issue. If each world is the size of a single game by itself then treat it as such and don't try to marathon it.

[@GottaBeFrank]

I disagree with it being considered a big non issue. I've been told by a few that I should play the game in smaller sessions, rather than one marathon, which I did. That's why I had to delay talking about this game. I wanted to give it as much time as I could. Then I became aware of the length of each world. It became exhausting to finish one since some of these levels balloon in length and the number of levels come close to 30 per world. It's great that there's a lot of content, but at what point does it become too much?

[@PaperAiden]

​​@@GottaBeFrankbro it's a big-ass non issue 💀

[@Megaman-2407]

i beat 3,4 world and.............my save just dissapear so yeah you can guess what happend...................

[@GottaBeFrank]

If it's uninstalling, I don't blame you. That is far too much progress to lose.

[@maruku4445]

Finally! Somebody talked about this. But I'm going to have to disagree with you. This game isn't long enough. It needs 1000 levels and even that's just being generous.

[@taxmaniaa]

RIP the developers 💀

[@GottaBeFrank]

Bruh

[@brownberryking]

it wouldnt be longer than genchin impact

[@GottaBeFrank]

Not sure how one is able to compare a 2D platformer to an open world Action RPG, but okay.

[@eleronpfoutz7823]

Are the load times still hot garbage?

[@GottaBeFrank]

Not really. They are a bit long, but it's not horrible.

[@eleronpfoutz7823]

I played this years ago, and remember being able to read through entire books before it'd load up for me.

[@peachyweegie8022]

So your complaint is that there's too much content?

[@GottaBeFrank]

I have an idea of where this interaction is going to go, so I'll skip to what I want to ask. Did every world need 20 levels of varying quality? Even in multiple separate sessions, this was too much crammed into one game.

[@eltiolavara9]

@@GottaBeFrank yeah theres some levels that are just there for the sake of it

[@FraterEST]

If the issue is that there are too many levels but nothing else, then... Stop playing and go do something else and come back? Its like "OH CRAP, THIS ICE CREAM IS DISGUSTING I AM ONLY A THIRD WAY THROUGH AND I HAVE EATEN THREE GALLONS." Put it back in the freezer Doofus.