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Trying to learn GTO strategies is hard. Like, really hard. It's actually impossible for humans to learn every GTO strategy in every spot.
In this video, we're looking at a way to make it easier for us and simplify GTO by analyzing a $200/400 high stakes hand played by Wiktor "limitless" Malinowski and Misha "Innerpsy" Inner.
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[@edusb5747]

I just want to point it out the amazing work that you do. Your breakdown of Gto in a human and entertaining way is beyond any content creator out there. I love your work and hope to see more out of you.

[@2CardConfidence]

Thank you, that really means a lot. You'll for sure see more!

[@innerpsy87]

That Misha Inner is a handsome guy. Bad poker player though

[@2CardConfidence]

🤣 How are you one of the earliest to this video

[@sds12222]

Красиво наказал Виктора за наглость, но почему не пуш?

[@innerpsy87]

@@2CardConfidence my followers informed me)

[@innerpsy87]

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[@dmitryp588]

What is happening?

[@dominikborno4133]

The approach to informative videos about poker is always so unique here, i like it a lot and its always something useful tbh

[@2CardConfidence]

Very happy to hear that!

[@antihackerify]

"If you have a hand you bet ", best strategy 😂.

[@1312Mork2]

Great video! Lots of players dont understand this stuff

[@HasNoName69]

Gentlemen, don't let yourselves be fooled. Wars between regs have never made anyone richer. It's just variance; you could play 500,000 hands with a winrate of 5bb/100 and still have a 95% chance that your true winrate is 1bb/100!! And how many hands are played annually at the highest stakes? 100,000? So a reg might run very well for 5 years even if they're worse than another reg. Money comes from weak players. You can build a house and amass wealth from them. And these players are decreasing every month. Additionally, poker platforms are constantly increasing rake. Currently, poker is very hard to beat because of the rake. The small mistakes that regs make are still not big enough for you to beat the rake. For that, you need a lot of fish. Online poker is pretty much dead.

[@adragonro]

That is mostly true. It's hat to find a constantly winning player has not invest alot of money in coaching or time in learning and getting better. Which is true with any other job and profession.

[@luckymaggie6594]

Wise words

[@ulyssesvercosa6196]

You are right, it's a game of chance when everyone has almost the same skills.

[@CanariasCanariass]

I think this is true for cash games, but MTTs are still full of fish it seems. However, the variance is insane, especially in the big field MTTs...

[@daddyfuse50]

Poker itself is nearing death. To be a consistent, winning player you have to invest a career-level amount of time and energy to studying, and playing.

[@supercalcio97]

I am not a robot but I don’t have a brain so I’m safe

[@2CardConfidence]

Lucky you!

[@H1ghL1ghT1]

Your best Video yet. Shows a lot of good things … thank you

[@2CardConfidence]

Appreciate it, glad you like it! :)

[@JustinHampton-l5j]

Dmitry rocking the ragnarok online avatar Respect

[@Mr__Delivery]

This reads a lot to me like Finding Equilibrium's GTOx system, where he recommends looking for range-level simplifications before even considering any finer tuning of the strategy. His GTOx program I think pretty innovatively would calculate EV loss for simplifying to a certain strategy with either the entire range or even an entire class of hands.

[@2CardConfidence]

Yes I remember those. Never actually got to use it, but definitely looked very appealing

[@AJay-zu9mx]

Could you do another video covering how a human can simplify a turn betting strategy after range betting the flop.

[@2CardConfidence]

I'll definitely consider it! Would be happy to go deeper into simplification in general

[@2CardConfidence]

I just made a quick unedited video going through the whole line in more detail and simplifying turn. Uploaded it to the new 2CC discord server: discord.gg/WJwQS7HnKP

[@pokerhands13]

Thanks for mentioning the channel mate! Your work is excellent, as always!

[@2CardConfidence]

Happy to do so, you're doing a great job! Thanks for your deliveries

[@pokerhands13]

@@2CardConfidence You are welcome mate. Plenty to come!

[@piFFD513]

Need the video on GTO that explains middle position, 3-4 people calling, with something like QT, and flop comes AT9...w/ 1 spade and 2 of hearts. How do you navigate?

[@2CardConfidence]

I don't think there are multiway solvers for more than 3 people yet. And as always the answer depends a lot on which position are you relative to the other players and what are everyone's (estimated) ranges

[@stoic521]

Another problem with overbet or check strategy is that on future streets the bet/bluff/check hand selection and ratio is so unnatural that basically only bots can do that, either.

[@2CardConfidence]

That's a good point to consider

[@ReMaKe325]

Here we looked at the EV differences and simplifying for our own strategy. Would be nice to see a vid where we rather focus on EV of villain. I can imagine being the preflopdefender and facing pot bets OTF people would make bigger mistakes than vs b30. What do you think?

[@2CardConfidence]

Yes absolutely. That's a whole other topic that can be analyzed. If you want to create your strategy around making it as difficult as possible for your opponent, that's also a cool approach. But just a different one

[@wizard3117]

I'd rather get a program to see the hole cards. Mike Postle will fix these GTO charts lol

[@jackmills8361]

Enough about the GTO, tell me about that paneling in the background 😍

[@2CardConfidence]

Haha, yeah I recently installed it and am really happy about it!

[@1LevelUpGuy]

Sometimes I feel, it is just overthinking in "one spot" about in general "frequencies" that gets players.. When IP and playing a simplified strat ourselves, it's quite bold to assume OOP player firstly knows this exact spot + exact play of certain combo and they follow it to make our "not often enough" assumption even close to being correct! Just feels like layers of assumptions! but then, they are "Limitless".. so, probably it's all good :)

[@beauf4]

The only 3 combo 😂 gg WIKTOR 😃

[@adrianoalves20]

Awesome video!

[@2CardConfidence]

Appreciate it! :)

[@wingfaiwong9929]

Instead of introducing range betting, I guess limitless has some over leveling here,even misha is a reg, but not the stake level reg, I would say he is under bluff in this spot

[@RichardTenderloin]

The process you used is seems fairly shortsighted. Here you determine that since betting small can be done at a 100% frequency and not lose EV to a more complicated cbet strategy, that it must be better for humans. However, you don’t seem to consider the frequency of the next node that is generated by using such a strategy. When betting small, you now open up the XR node to be used far more often, and now you need to be studied in that node in order to not leak EV. That node will be just as difficult to understand as the flop cbet, so using this small range bet strategy simply kicks the can down the road.

[@2CardConfidence]

The range betting strategy increases the amount of check raises in theory, yes. But that node also exists when not range betting, even if it happens less often. However, range betting completely cuts off the checking back node. So overall, there are clearly less nodes that need to be studied

[@RichardTenderloin]

@@2CardConfidence The frequency of nodes is one of the most important factors when determining which areas to develop a strategy around. So, just because that node also exists in the larger cbet size node, doesn’t mean it’s of equal importance. Also, eliminating a node for simplification sake isn’t very helpful either. In fact, you make note of this in this video when discussing the turn play to see if the player could either range bet or check and determine that this would be a ridiculous strategy. So, why do you think this is a good strategy to use on the flop?

[@Mr__Delivery]

You're technically right, but having looked at a lot of these situations myself (nodelocking a range bet when that's not the equilibrium strategy), I find that very few opponents (1) are reflective enough to judge whether I'm inappropriately range betting vs mixing, (2) know what the optimal response is to the nodelocked strategy on that street, or (3) have the finesse and comfort level to implement that strategy and live with it on later streets.

[@rgee5952]

Top poker content producer on KZbin, love you videos, I have to ask your accent though, are you dutch?

[@Daorson91]

I bet my money on germany

[@rgee5952]

@@Daorson91 that's a close 2nd for me

[@2CardConfidence]

Germany it is :)

[@Daorson91]

@@2CardConfidence Baden-Württemberg?

[@2CardConfidence]

@@Daorson91 Noooo :D Niedersachsen, höchstes Hochdeutsch

[@leonidasp.3813]

pure gold.

[@MMaRsu]

Dont use GTO I go by feeling, I have only one under 100$ in a few months, but I only play low stakes tables. Should I use a GTO???

[@SlotGenieOfficial]

I would definitely practice at least some gto to add into your game

[@blackopal3138]

Do we know who is a more successful player financially? ... as if there is any other way to measure. My money is on Inner

[@eliasjalovaara2285]

I saw your shirt and went straight to look out for one. Where can I get that!?

[@2CardConfidence]

Ha, appreciate it! It's currently not for sale unfortunately, but I'll likely bring it back for some time this year!

[@Zleumas]

@@2CardConfidenceyeah I think I would buy one too lol

[@Humanprototype-wh8qr]

why is the ev of betting diffrent sizings often same? and why we use diffrent sizings then? to create meyhem? its overall strategy that creates more EV but how? i mean more complex strat creates more mistakes thus, less EV.

[@2CardConfidence]

You're right with everything you say. The reason why complex strategies are often in focus is that solvers are programmed to show the highest ev strategy as a default. And those are almost always complicated strategies with multiple bet sizes. The solver doesn't care if a strategy is close in terms of EV, but much simpler to play as a human, as it is not programmed for that. And finding those solutions can require quite some work, so most people just stop at the first solution they see, which is often the most complicated one.

[@FreeFlow__]

Gto doesnt work in micro and midstakes

[@dsrrellgriffith1161]

I play a lot of tournaments, i see it all the time. Guys playing almost every hand, they build up a big stack. Then later they donkey it all off,,,,If u are going to play every hand, u will get in big trouble when your opponents start slow playing against you and your c betting.

[@JanosTCG]

My goat

[@gabrielpar3519]

Okay but... really not try to 3bet-allin on river?

[@AsmongoldvsArtosisclips]

Regs at midstakes and lower...and shows a 50k stack table.

[@vsanden]

The flop play was so bad of king queen that he deserves to be paid on the river

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

Raising AQ there seems so bad to me, ESPECIALLY if it leads you to level yourself into calling a 3b... although the Q of spades does seem like a pretty good blocker to the nuts (since the only KQ that should call flop are the ones with backdoor flush draws) but this just seems like an avoidable mistake.

[@evrenturan3674]

🐐

[@2CardConfidence]

❤️️

[@mattdugas9032]

Donkey raise on the river. His options were call or fold, pretty standard call, would have saved himself $13k. Again, who is he trying to get value from with that raise… what worse hand is calling…? Dumb spot.

[@victornevzorov2767]

well what OP doesn't explain or doesn't even mention reason and logic behind high check frequency on this board - A75 is not good for early position raiser - as he doesn't have many A7 furthermore the problem is that there is no another high card we value bet or even no flush draw. For example AQ5 would be very different - as we can value bet with ace against a queen, or pretend to do so with a bluff. what are we accomplishing on a75 with a bet? we make him fold part of the range we are ahead of but we would rather prefer him to catch up so we can value bet him on other streets and another problem that our betting range is very weak and can be easily exploited on a turn as we all know and field knows about this high frequency check flop. There is more to the story, but author in the video complete misses all that which makes me think he doesn't understand what he is talking about.

[@Alexandertygreat]

This is a pure punt, we beat nothing. Zero value and this would neex to be a bluff alot to be a profitable call. The river raise is a merge then?

[@2CardConfidence]

Hm, I find it hard to believe any better hand would fold to the raise

[@Alexandertygreat]

@@2CardConfidence agreed, i dont see the logic in the river 2 bet. But must be something he seen no one else could

[@laksiyacine230]

done

[@galaxybrainclips]

I am not a robot

[@VinnyPoker]

lol Karen at 1:00

[@Chino-bk9fd]

reverse floating on a ace high flop??? lol ok

[@renstillmann]

Don't need GTO knowledge at all to understand that this should be a fold after that last raise from villain. While watching the video I just knew he had to have KQs, even more fun to see it had a flush draw on the turn too. Giving him even more reasons to make that call. After that raise I would have called just to see his hand even though you probably know what time it is already. Crazy that such bad plays happen at these stakes. I can't even beat 2NL hahaha 😂

[@Bert_Farve]

I think the AI voice over program needs an update

[@2CardConfidence]

?

[@pugsnhogz]

Anyone got a general heuristic for how much % of the pot is "okay" to lose? I don't intuitively understand why -6% is bad, -2% is meh, and -1% is "yay, let's use this strategy"

[@RyanSpicer]

the heuristic is the less you lose the better. the exact number i think is generally less than 1% of the pot. i think the bigger the pot, the lower the number is though. in a 5bb pot, 1% or less is insignificant, but in a 50bb 4bp, it becomes more significant, i think, so that number might be like half a %. im sure someone can give a better answer.

[@2CardConfidence]

Why isn't the 6/2/1% heuristic good? :D Another way to think about is in terms of winrate. If a play loses 0.02bb for example, you can view that as 2bb/100. But then what also matters of course is how often that spot occurs. In a BTN vs BB flop cbet spot, 2bb/100 is quite a lot, because it has a bigger impact on your overall winrate. Whereas in a 4bet pot on the river that only occurs once every x million hands, 2bb/100 doesn't really matter.

[@pugsnhogz]

@@2CardConfidence great explanation. thanks!

[@vliv2609]

very bad exploitive raise on the river with AQ,. My 1st though was : hmmm we got top pair, with AQo, we have decent kicker, we''ve got medium strenght hand so we call 100 of 100 times there.

[@badvideo169]

how stupid to call on flop

[@ДаниилБр-й5щ]

Самое смешное что Виктор поставил AQ просто потому что он не знал что ее нужно чекать, автор думает что на хайстейкс все играют по солверу, а если нет то они что то знают об оппоненте и это подстройка, спешу сообщить что это не так, вы думаете там сидят боги, там сидят обычные люди, которые просто хорошо играют в покер. Это как пытаться разглядеть в кофейной гуще свое будущее 😂

[@victornevzorov2767]

я думаю он знал что по гто это чек и либо у него страта частого сибета или ему рандомайзер так показал либо он просто автоматическое действие совершил (т.е. ошибся), но я исключаю что он не знает что там частый чек, туз две мелкие солвер не любит бетать это все знают

[@HusseinElAllali]

Bist du Deutscher ?

[@davyliciousable]

sounds very germanic based mother language at least

[@2CardConfidence]

Yep, bin ich

[@StankHunt42]

Mallinowskis way overrated. One things for sure is that he didnt make most of his money from playing poker

[@belltonix3614]

Do you just talk out your ass? I can see his stats lol. He’s made over a million dollars USD. on just Pokerstars.

[@belltonix3614]

Not to mention GG poker lol. Earning just shy of a million. Yeah he’s way over rated haha

[@StankHunt42]

@@belltonix3614 What about his $5 million down swing at Triton? Watch the Doug Polk hand review video of him. And none of the high stakes players think he's any good

[@StankHunt42]

@@belltonix3614 He versed Stefan11222 1v1 and Stefan said he doesnt even know how its possible he'll lose. And then Stefan absolutely smoked him for 7 figures. You must be a casual

[@StankHunt42]

​@@belltonix3614 What about his $5 million downswing at Triton? What about his headsup challenges against anyone in the world? Stefan11222 said he doesnt even know how its possible he'll lose. Stefan then smoked him for 7 figures and Limitless quickly removed the challenge. What about his ashamed hand reviews from the community like Doug Polk and absolutely? Limitless lost to the tournmant player Fedor Holtz in a 1v1 cash game challenge. You must be a casual

GTO only is right in stage, Poker online have manipuled odds bro

[@Chris-30-04]

You all think they think about GTO here and there, but they are not. They are just pressing buttons. Come on. Dont overcomplicate this game.

[@emanuelfreita2035]

I agree this thing is making stupid poker players instesd

[@passiongaming7450]

You think this is 2006? Lmao

[@emanuelfreita2035]

@@passiongaming7450 you certainly don’t know how to play cards

[@passiongaming7450]

@@emanuelfreita2035 Bro literally said all they do is click buttons 😂 you just hate on what you can’t understand, AK is probably just a drawing hand am I right

[@AB-ys4yn]

@@passiongaming7450well technically AK is a drawing hand, what’s wrong with that statement? I’m just a poker novice pls enlighten me lol

[@blackopal3138]

Are you all on drugs or what?? How is life so unfair, lol... that guy played that hand about as bad as you can play a poker hand no matter what strategy he was using... Like, omg every single action was terribly wrong.... ................ he's utg, raises only 1.5 bb, of course gets called by bb, who's range is now wide open bc of ur piddly little bet, at least u have position. He hits flop and villain checks, great, hammer it, protect ur hand, nope, he bets 30%, giving villain nearly 5-1 to call, villain calls, surprise! lol turn doesn't help u but makes the board more threatening, opens more draws - villain checks second time after only calling shitty cbet, strongly indicating weakness, hero checks again, lol.... I'm thinking, ok he's scared of the trap, happy with pot, going to check and if villain bets river, he can call, or check it down take his pot....BUT, broadway card drops, villain comes out swinging, and hero raises? lmao, ayfkm? Terrible, just terrible. Sooo, he was trapping that late with his hand's ev dropping like a stone?? I'd be scared to call villain, I probably dont since I cant beat hmmm, AK, AJ, AT, KQ, JT, 89, 75, 55, 77, wtf does he have that I can beat??? This makes me want to sell my house and buy into this game. Unbelievable. Peace

[@dachsdog]

first

[@Poncitrao]

Gto lol

[@emanuelfreita2035]

Gto is useless

[@nealharris7789]

Gimme a break with all this bs. U want to be good in poker here's what u need: flop sets, win your races, suck out multiple times, hit your draws. Enough of this other bologna they try to sell u on. It's 95% luck period, end of story...

[@carlchristiansteglich-pete6409]

Your reply reflects your a looser in the game

[@vartulio]

dude ur face really doesnt match ur voice lol

[@2CardConfidence]

What voice would match my face and what face would match my voice? :D