Can You Tell The Difference Between NL50 & NL40,000?

[@2CardConfidence]

Watch me take on Gleb's high stakes and low stakes hands: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4XWYnaLntdoeZosi=JElus8fdWh1-hOHO

[@Mr2beerqueer]

I love the concept of this video. Would love to participate if you’d have some random pro who’s very studied on lol

[@Badbentham]

I got all three right: Hand 1 is absolutely sophisticated; close to zero chance that anybody at low stakes would take that line with Q9. Hand 2: The play of 86s is at least debatable; that of J7s however is simply not a thing. Low stakes players setting money on fire. Hand 3: Far too over-aggressive value-betting, particularly for Low Stakes. But, it also makes complete sense that it was played before solvers, and between Dwan and Isildur: It should be rare to see such high-variance, maybe zero-EV , plays with the general current High Stakes population .

[@NoLongerGrilling]

Got the first two right as well, but then wasn’t sure about the last one bc ik shoving QQ wasn’t a thing so that made me think fish play haha. Fun one for sure!

[@Mr2beerqueer]

Hand 1 was actually awful, the 3b sizing also don’t see often from better players.. turn raise doesn’t make sense with this hand and it doesn’t make a great bluff catch on river

[@Mr2beerqueer]

Hand 1 I thought was actually horrible, Q9o line was worse than J7s play in hand 2 to me. The 3b size is rarely used by better players, turn raise made no sense and Q9 was pretty bad bluff catch combo. After finishing video it made sense that hand came from Stefan though. Not to throw shade but Stefan’s play probably did well years ago but I think he might be someone who sun ran his way up and will get his ego and bankroll checked very very soon

[@d_b_]

Full tilt poker 15 years ago was great for poker software and entertaining high stakes viewing. Miss it

[@ashleywoodhouse1686]

Love the concept of this video and great analysis

[@theofilosgougoulas8549]

In the Third hand we have a value bet from isildur…isildur went waayyy to thin in a lot of hands against durrr…crazy stuff

[@taav2518]

Great job, next one could be 6max where Chai can use his expertise better, due the huge difference in range composition from HU to 6max.

[@user-py7mn1on6e]

The population on low stakes is indeed nitty, but there's one exception - 4bet pots being the aggressor. In this spot they do overbluff a lot, so no surprise it's nl50

[@Andy-jg2oj]

U always succeed to create interaction w/ us, thass so cool 🥰 Gg’s my G

[@looper6394]

got them all right 🥳 awesome format, keep it up 🤠

[@2CardConfidence]

Let's goo! 🔥

[@ricky9607]

When I saw this small 3bet, I knew it was Stefan! This guy is a beast and knows how to vary his bet sizes.

[@Rechnerstrom]

Every hand estimated before Chai chimed in. I play NL5. Hand 1: I suspected right preflop that this is going to be a high stakes hand because of the 3-bet size. Low stakes would have a button 3x and that's 75 chips and not 74. That one chip off is typical for a high stakes hand. Then the extreme small cbet wouldn't be typical for low stakes. Low stakes would have set up predefined buttons for the flop and those are 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 or such. Never 1/7. In the showdown there was a hand that I would have never ever expected. Q9o would never 3-bet preflop (maybe maniacs) and never checkraise the turn in low stakes and on the river a low stakes player on the button would be scared to play a value bet because he would expect to only beat bluffs (missed flush draw, missed straight draw/combo draw) and those wouldn't call. 100% high stakes. Hand 2: Preflop clean 4x 3bet size, so is this going to be a low stakes hand? But most low stakes players would just call and not do much 3-betting here. 4bet size is also typical for low stakes but could also be high stakes I guess. Call with 86s in a 4-bet pot out of position I don't know. Since I don't do much heads up play I am out of my league. High stakes players would do this I guess because they pay low rake and thus would call more. On the flop the stack to pot ratio is 2:1, so I don't expect many surprises. BB won't give up a pair at that ratio and BU hasn't a lot of room left to maneuver. Flop cbet size is a bit over 1/3, compatible with low stakes, because I has a button for it bet size. A lot are doing it anyways because BB wouldn't checkraise enough. But we are in a 4bet pot with a low stack to pot ratio and there won't be many moves here anyway. Might be fine for high stakes too, I don't know. Call flop from BB nothing special. No use for checkraising because you can't bluff against better pairs any more because of SPR. And you probably don't get enough value from weaker hands. Checkraises would be a lot more polarized I guess on high stakes, so no information. Instant check turn from BB is interesting. Could be a timing tell but with a SPR of 0,7:1 you probably aren't going to get fancy. All-in from the BU because what else sizes has he left? Call because of SPR nothing special. Showdown hand for BU is surprising for low stakes. I'd say 4:1 it is a high stakes hand. 20% for low stakes because of the I has a button bet sizes. Most maniacs in low stakes would preflop push instead of normal 4-bet. Hand 3: Preflop: nothing to see here. Sizes are compatible with both high stakes and low stakes and BB's hand is a typical 3bet hand for everyone. Flop: close to 2/3 c-bet but not exactly 2/3. A little bit unusual for low stakes but certainly possible. Betting on a flop like this should be a little bit polarized which usually are bigger so compatible with both stakes. Turn: that's a interesting turn card because it is not a blank, and the bet is coming quickly. The card is good for BBs range and with a double flush draw board there is a strong incentive to bet. However, that overcard would get most low stakes players thinking because now they no longer have an overpair and just mid pair. The bet size is smaller than on the flop because the K also hits BU's range. Good thinking, but can happen also on low stakes. NL50 is not NL5. The bet size is a really odd size and doesn't look like a preset size. Pretty strong high stakes vibes here. River card: immediately thought when now a bet comes from BB it is never a low stakes hand. Fear inducing card, not a blank at all. But BB blocks a lot of straights and has straight and flush in his range. Push follows -> 100% high stakes. It's a bluff vs Kx and BB has so good blockers versus a straight. Showdown: yeah, you also see this in low stakes (preflop call J8o vs 3-bet). BU only has a bluff catcher and I think a high stakes player can make this call because he knows a lot about the bluffes of BB and blocks 2 sets and top 2-pair. Still, 100% high stakes. Great video! I wish this would be repeated, if possible!

[@АлександрГусейнов-в2л]

Why 4:36 u checking line that almost not exist? Range 1.3% vs 37%. It is not make sense

[@SpaceFortunaa]

The key difference between NL50 and NL40,000 lies in player skill and game dynamics. At NL50, you'll encounter more recreational players and straightforward strategies, while NL40,000 features highly skilled opponents using advanced tactics, range balancing, and exploitative play. Success at higher stakes demands sharp decision-making, bankroll discipline, and a deep understanding of poker theory.

[@ltsjack]

One of my favorite occurrences, similar to this, is when you have two button-mashing whales clash against each other in a pot and, by pure fortuity, produce a GTO masterclass.

[@PLO4-VanMarREG-sr8gz]

Good format ever

[@adrianoalves20]

Amazing video!

[@2CardConfidence]

Thanks Adriano!

[@DeCeroaHeroeChess]

1.- High Stakes, not much to say, even if it´s a mistake, the hand itself just screams "high stakes!" all over the place; 2.- Low Stakes (shoving that turn blocking the floats of the backdoor flush draw and backdoor straight draw?, seems extremely aggresive and you are setting on fire your FE with that combo, i also got that the 86s was just a fold pre vs 4bet); 3.- Low Stakes i guessed. That was just that i tought that the shove with QQ was ridiculous in the sense that seemed that the QQ player didn´t knew what to do with his hand and just panicked and the call pre with J8o was way way too loose to be a thing. Makes a lot of sense that was from the "aggro" era, between the most aggresive players that were playing those limits.

[@volivoly]

I’m a simple man, I see Chai, I click like

[@dbuk1]

Imo the worst hand played was hand 3 which speaks volumes for how the game has evolved.

[@burneraccount6130]

I think turn sizing H3 is very understandable think KJ KQ K9 struggles to float vs 3! 2/3 flop, so think especially in a more aggro game, QQ should be above the value threshold imo. River becomes weird/murky but I still don't hate it with the idea that villain is jamming almost every better hand(Kxss like K3-K7 might find check back on .8 SPR?)... but when facing a river check you'd assume better hands just jam here vs a river check that gives showdown value to QJ, J9, AJ, etc, so not sure if Kx ever can check back here (I know theoretically there are traps but think on this board it becomes extremely hard to execute in real time). Maybe if opponent isn't turning hands like 98, 67, 56, 54 into bluff we can c/c, folding river to .8 SPR jam feels a bit off to me HU in a very aggro game.

[@jaxejaxejaxe]

On this channel one can confidently like the video before having watched

[@2CardConfidence]

Appreciate the trust ❤️

[@maxslowplaysHARP]

Hand #3 river Jam is definitely not a value bet, but a value bluff .. he realised that once his opponent got to the river he had no showdown value with his queens

[@MariusSchafiberger]

Love your content so much… stunning work. If I may ask what stakes you play regularly yourself and is your online name secret or known ?🙃 Thanks for your answer and keep up the content ☺️

[@2CardConfidence]

Appreciate the nice words! :) I played mostly NL500 in recent years. Currently focusing on the content though. Aprilz1stson is my stars name

[@danpickles6321]

Q9o was clearly polarized to Stefan or low stakes and there were enough clues to lean Stefan - small 3b, turn xr with a weird "value" combo to xc river in a spot IP can't (or just won't?) value bet 1p. J7s turn jam clearly low stakes, seems extremely punty to have a) spades and b) one over to a T Last one was tricky tricky - 3x pf and way too thin river jam was low stakes leaning.

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

This is so cool because i was JUST saying that poker needs something similar to chess' guess the ELO series. Great idea 💡

[@warngamba]

first baby omw to become baby linus

[@2CardConfidence]

Congratulations! Gotta learn that double check-raise block bet line first!

[@unoqualunque5484]

Project linus gonna be crazy

[@StankHunt42]

The third hand was obviously low stakes, or lower skilled players, from the very begining because he raised 3 big blinds preflop and thats not a thing today with high stakes

[@BLUFFIRL]

16:10 you said JT < QQ but JT is two pair, what’s interesting is that JT is mixing folds (probably why you assumed it’s beaten by QQ in the first place)

[@2CardConfidence]

Oh right, good catch!

[@masstransitrecords7865]

The first hand reaked of Stefan

[@Dany9394-r1m]

The best hand for me is the third one, I loved the way isildur played it

[@thecrossoverlifestyle5442]

HUNL regs are built different, the skill floor to play HU full time is very high, everyone is simmed up to the gills, they not trash like low/mid stakes 6m regs or mtt regs These hands could literally happen at any stake in this format

[@joas162]

I think that is in part because there are fewer spots to study. MTT has so many stack sizes and has ICM considerations that you can't be an expert in all of the situations. For HU you usually play 100bb-200bb deep. The ranges are much wider than in most MTT spots though, so it's tougher to nail them.

[@somshark123]

I think that best players on zoom25 to zoom500 on PS are better then most players you see on biggest tournament on Triton ,but they dont have budget 💵

[@andrewfraancis]

I went High Low High- I think the sizes gave away the first hand. Hand 2 pre seemed a bit punty and post seemed like the generic punt at 50z. Hand 3 let’s see if I got it right…. yussss but yeah old school sizes- just don’t see hands like that at low stakes though. Very nice video 🤝

[@2CardConfidence]

Good job 🔥

[@beauf4]

Ladies and gentleman HISTORY of online poker in first and third hand 😢 The second hand can be almost anyone at any stakes who 4bet and bet flop and shove turn with anytwo because is on tilt mode 😂 GREAT GREAT VIDEO 🤗

[@2CardConfidence]

Agree! Glad you liked it :)

[@JS-lc4kg]

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[@FizzyToni]

all hs with bizarre lines, especially the last one

[@brandonnel4687]

Holy bananas ,Fedor and bryn just got crushed at the final 4 tableat the Triton $150k by two recreationals!!!!vlad and ossi Even chidwick, dan smith and Sam Greenwoodwas in the FT!!

[@ImTheBowser]

Hand one: Nobody at 50 NL is playing 15% cbet on flop, turn I imagine player tendencies at 50 NL are to check call turn, not check raise. I think this is 40knl. Hand two: Seems like 50 NL to be honest, both players making pretty big mistakes in sizing and hand selection. Hand three: River seems too wide, but I've seen some crazy hero calls so might be 40knl. Very unsure about this one though.

[@2CardConfidence]

🎉🔥

[@NoLongerGrilling]

Exactly my thoughts on all three hands!

[@BLUFFIRL]

The fact they cbet 15% in this instance doesn’t necessarily mean it’s part of a cohesive strategy or range bet - I don’t see why this couldn’t just be them sizing for their weak second pair

[@TheStein36]

I guessed the 3rd one was pre Black Friday high stakes. It’s just not a thing in present day low stakes or high stakes. 😅

[@gesus.christ99]

Back then money were meaningless😢... What a great time to play nosebleed Nlh, today edges are small and fishes don't play high stakes anymore

[@jeramy576]

My guesses before seeing the results: 1: that 15% flop bet just isn't a thing in lower stakes. I admit that I'm far too hung up on that spot. 2: just feels like pure monkey tilt. As far as the stakes I'd also lean high. 3: This seems like a low stakes player that can't get away from his big pocket pair. Poor analysis from a bad low stakes player 😇

[@2CardConfidence]

I think you're spot on with the monkey tilt 😂

[@JanosTCG]

Hey man I love your videos, but your new lightsaber sound (only in the left ear) is very annoying. I thought you should know, keep up the good work tho! :)

[@2CardConfidence]

Haha damn, thanks for letting me know :)

[@seanb7807]

Seems odd to me that the guy was so sure hand 2 was high-stakes, doing all that with J7s seems highly indicative of just pushing buttons. No reason to 4!, no reason to jam turn, just terrible combo selection with no reasoning behind it.

[@chaipokeracademy]

It really was just about the aggression for me, coming from a MDA background where people typically play nittier at lower stakes in spots like these. Was definitely eye-opening for me to see that HU sim however!

[@NoLongerGrilling]

Exactly, that was surprising to me. J7s pure punt

[@NoLongerGrilling]

@@chaipokeracademyMDA says fish overbluff almost all nodes so idk what MDA you’re studying that you didn’t think of the possibility that this is a fish based on the hand and action selection …? 🤔

[@chaipokeracademy]

@@NoLongerGrilling Hey, more than happy to elaborate :) Talking about MDA here, I'm specifically referring to preflop action. One very consistent trend is that higher stakes players tend to 4bet more preflop. Fish also under-4bet preflop and data suggests that they do it with a stronger range. I double-checked, and the preflop 4bet stat for regs in my ~200nl sample is 14%, whereas the fish stat is 11%. Also, looking into it a bit more, this is a postflop line where fish almost certainly underbluff. Regardless, fish exist at both low stakes and high stakes. Since the spots are HU, I came into the call with the assumption that the players were all regs. There's a lot of crazy bluffs both at low and high stakes, so my reasoning for the hand really did just boil down to this one point

[@riverflow-v6r]

J6s is a mixed 4b…

[@Intubarkh]

lol at people who say regs don't 10% pot on nl50. A lot of them do, it's not some sacred knowledge anymore. Also small 3bet preflop in HU is wrong and most HU regs know that, so I lean towards that player being not that good.

[@NoLongerGrilling]

It’s “wrong” unless you’re a massive sicko crusher like Stefan who has a reason to deviate. It’s like Magnus (the goat of chess) choosing to play bad lines in order to outplay his opponents where he’s more knowledgeable at improv.

[@Intubarkh]

@ 10+bb 3bets are used to stack overpairs and TPTK, the most popular hands in OOP 3bet range, vs smaller pairs in geometric sizing. 12.5bb 3bet allows to put in 50% pot 3 times (adjusted for runouts of course), or roughly 2 potbets with polar range sometimes. On most of the flops it negates any room for wiggle IP might have no matter how good they are, they cannot escape math, and most of IP EV lies in 4bettin range anyways. The only reason to 3bet Q9o small is some preflop split sizing fuckery which might happen, Stefan is known for it, but IDK just 3bet big and get your EV anyway.

[@chaipokeracademy]

Hey man! Great video as always, happy to be a part of it :)

[@2CardConfidence]

Thanks for joining, was great to have you!

[@jakobyuksel6418]

3/3😇