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This Might be the Perfect Handcannon!

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[@CFEKOSMOS]

"Just remember one thing, you're a sellout" ~Handsome Jack

[@joshuamcewen6023]

Love factor meals! I’ve lost 40 pounds since the beginning of the year thanks to them

[@PotatoNade]

I have farmed for HC/Inc for 3 weeks and it simply does not exist.

[@kcortez13]

I’m having that problem with mountain top, I just want auto and recomb 😢

[@Michael-ee4uz]

I finally got one with a crappy mag and masterwork last night after at least 80 drops and every other perk combo. I'll take it. I'm done.

[@pewho3790]

Same dude, been trying to get that roll for weeks.

[@jacklangman8416]

I’ve had mountain top focused since it came out with no luck, I did get a random shiny heal clip incandescent lunas tho

[@spencerhuckins8197]

Luckily we can still farm these weapons after final shape drops, we won't be able to target farm them though. Make sure You're spending your tokens at the chest by Lord shax

[@B0redZer0]

Honestly, if you want a legendary sunshot, i would reccomend Zaouli's Bane from Kingsfall, which can get Explosive Rounds and Incandescent, with both being enhanced. I do get the utility of heal clip, so thats fine, but i feel Zaouli's does a better job at trying to fill Sunshots niche as an great ad clear weapon.

[@jabberbox]

just to note, we'll be able to enhance the luna's in TFS as well

[@joesmith7690]

U can enhance Lunas perks in the final shape

[@danielcolt5542]

I would've assumed so too but at least in up to minus 15 pantheon I've found myself really preferring the benefits of heal clip and not missing EP much.

[@CapsFan]

@@jabberboxThat’s fine and all, but Zaouli’s still has EP. And if you’re decent enough to get the Harrowed version, it’s going to also be Enhancable in Final Shape and since Boss/Major/Minor spec is being deleted from the game, it just makes Adept Reload that much better.

[@cfcbailey7583]

Done 2 legend onslaught run yesterday with both hand cannons and zaouli’s just feels like it hits for so much more can’t beat it

[@ROFLzSALMONz]

Fun thing to note is marksmans dodge procs HC, very fun teamwide wormhusk!

[@Johnnjlee]

This I did not know, going to use this now

[@dixon137]

if you want a damage boost use solar surge also use solar aspects for increase reload speed

[@nathanddrews]

I just assumed that the HC/MH combo was designed specifically for PVP so that if you win a duel, you can immediately heal and get a damage boost for another duel immediately after.

[@MuseMenaceTV]

Why not both babe

[@rickfsu22]

Man I miss watching all your guide and build vids! I probably speak for a lot of people when I say you made Destiny2 so much fun with how well you explained builds and guides for other stuff. Hope you are able to come back and make vids for final shape!

[@jgangsta]

best comment def needs to be pinned

[@bot-qw1be]

Heal clip on this goes great with solar hunter for the crazy reload speed buff

[@arturopenuela8907]

My build is gunpowder gamble and speed loaders with heal clip/inc so you can constantly getting gunpowder gamble which lets u carry a healing nade instead while also giving you orbs for your solar surges due to the fire incandescent and gunpowder

[@atheon-]

they need to revert the mag houl changes and just make it need more shots to activate in 180s like chill clip manages to work

[@yunginunicorn]

Used this throughout pantheon and its done me so good

[@cowsanonymous]

Heal Clip feels incredible now. I nabbed a heal clip/frenzy igneous and it's been doing great work

[@oxsila]

Parabellum is pretty juicy with heal clip frenzy too

[@alexandersveryown4760]

I already have Zaoulis crated and recently got an adept version with Explosive payload and incandescent, but I still want a Lunas howl with heal clip and incandescent. Unfortunately 70+ in, I've yet to get one

[@samuelcipolloni3574]

Looking forward to your builds for prismatic in the final shape

[@oso_quik_wit_itrush7632]

Keep hoping. Cuz he only posts a video when he’s sponsoring someone.

[@samuelcipolloni3574]

@@oso_quik_wit_itrush7632 then I hope for a sponsor

[@patrickjackson1989]

With solar fragment that gives u energy when healing some one plus the Veritas brow. Plus the origin trait. Just nades and everything else for days

[@Ahmed_ElSayed01]

I have a subsistence incandescent roll and it's one of the most fun ad clear weapons I have

[@blakestewart7533]

Keep in ming that bungie is removing spec mods. Youre going to be using backup mag on everything, so you dont want a magazine boost perk. Flared is literally the best come final shape.

[@nathanflinchum1153]

Imo it’s always been best, hell I’d take modern drop mag (+20 or 30 reload and passive .9x scalar but inverse mag effect of extended mag) on every gun if I had the choice, the reload speed is just amazing.

[@sebastian_blair6685]

Tbh it already was now it even better

[@boltstriker7736]

Not really, example A tactical mag + backup mag mod succession can only have 4 rounds in the mag While a extended mag +backup mag mod can have 5 rounds When you factor in reconstruction that extra round will make a difference. So mags varies on a gun by gun basis

[@sebastian_blair6685]

@boltstriker7736 yeaaaaaa but depends what you use it in most of time I don't use more than 8 shots since I don't use in raids usually just gms and other things

[@nathanflinchum1153]

@@boltstriker7736 fair point, I should’ve specified for more general use of primary ad-clear guns, stuff like fourth times/BNS cataclysmic can definitely use the extra shot for an extra proc of fttc before a reload

[@FBlitz97]

I got extremely lucky last night and got the HC/Incandescent roll. The increased dropped rate is a godsend I got like 5 or more on the final chest alone.

[@titan_main]

Just a heads up, Adhortative (the undying pulse) can be crafted with heal clip and incandescent as well, and pulses are getting buffed next season. Sometimes you just need more range than a hc, def worth crafting.

[@funtourhawk]

it's actually pretty good now, gonna slap with the buff

[@MegaNinjaSkill]

Im so glad i got this perk combo its so fun!!

[@nta25]

you should try and make a build for starfire protocol with that luna roll especially with the fragment that gives you 300% grenade mele and class energy when you heal teammates.

[@sebastian_blair6685]

Starfire and benevolence is so undrated people used starfire with healing rift before the changes to and the nerf only affects empowering its soooo string with dynamo ashes assets and bomber and impact induction

[@zferolie]

Honestly torn on this, helio, or adorative as my favorite heal clip inca weapon. Adhorative pulse especially after the massive buffs its getting may be the best, but both helio and lunas feel great depending on the range im in. Also... its weird how much i enjoy epocial, especially paired with conditional and the raid LFR for x2 of the origin trait. I lose out on heal clip but gain amazing feeling of the gun. Im so torn on what to use

[@juliuswallace6783]

This gun creates so much explosions it makes you feel like you are using Sunshot. Couple that with the absence of upward kick common in other archetypes.. its a big win.

[@codygrinnell8676]

For my top 2 Forbearance rolls.. Both with Demo, but chain reaction, and one For All ( beleive this was the quest one). I also have a Stats for All/Chain roll and a Ambitious/Golden

[@FarCraftMania]

Good luck to pantheon clears this week

[@eduardosandoval5286]

Got my heal clip incandescent lunas today. I was so happy. Unfortunately no reload master work and flared mag well but oh well

[@rogerhuston8287]

Edge Transit, don't discount Explosive Light, especially in a damage phase where people are making orbs.

[@jonathanlawrence5835]

You're right. Explosive Light and cascade point goes hard AF in that situation.

[@Aridorable109]

Just use Regnant if you want explosive light don't be naive

[@good7bad138]

I 100% recommend heal clip incan. I've done a whole bunch of flawless master lost sectors and 5 coil runs solo with it.

[@moistgooseberry]

The Return of the King

[@wrongthink3885]

Always appreciate your input. Nice one.

[@UnnamedThinkTank]

Luna's Howl with Heal clip + incandescent / mag howl is a thing of beauty. Works fantastically for both PVP and PVE IMO. Proccing ember of benevolence in fireteam content also helps regen significantly. Midnight coup with firefly / EP + OFA also "kinda" fits the kinetic "sunshot at home" niche. While still freeing up at exotic slot. Obviously both legendaries aren't as good as Sun shot, they can't. But given that TFS will give Sun shot "an adjustment", the gap might even be closer than we think. For Edge Transit, autoloading holster does work for some players. Because you lose Envious stacks if you fail to stay alive before the DPS phase. If the player is not confident, he can use ALH instead.

[@Mordant_]

Glorious Howl I feel like sits in the same or similar area as Sword Logic. Farming quick kills on red bars ramps damage to allow to to increase your ttk on tankier enemies

[@Cap626]

I don't really find myself using a primary for bosses/mini bosses. A 50% buff for a max of 11 shots is not worth the perk slot especially when there's time gated damage phases. I'm not gonna shoot 11 bullets of Lunas before swapping to heavy. Edit: only thing I could see this helping out with is bait & switch. And event that's very niche and a REAAAACH

[@bradrussell2530]

I watched aztecross gl video yesterday while your Godroll edge transit was near the top cascade and explosive light was at the top at least with his damage testing but to each there own

[@JusAFarmer]

Ehroar uploaded o7

[@macman4289]

I have the 4/5 god roll Lunas with heal clip incandescent and its wonderful I feel like an off healer. Its wonderfully paired with my god roll mountain top with auto loading recom. Have it paired with Dragons breath, but I jate how slow the rocket is. Any suggestions on DB replacements?

[@jNoN69]

Finally ehroar uploaded

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

I have a god roll PvE Luna’s Howl and Zaouli’s Bane is still my preferred legendary solar hand cannon.

[@bigounce8301]

Yeah but don’t judge yet Luna will be enhanceable next season

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

@@bigounce8301 but how big of an improvement will enhanced heal clip and incandescent really make?

[@jimmcmeen761]

The ability to heal yourself and nearby allies goes a long way. Zaouli’s is also a bit clunky feeling to me. Guess it’s personal preference

[@kat-rau.]

If you have ZB already, Luna's isn't for you. It's for people who haven't gotten ZB yet. Especially if you have a Harrowed ZB, you'll be able to enhance it in TFS.

[@leed4162]

​@@kat-rau.I have two godroll narrowed and one crafted ZB and still prefer luna's

[@martinacosta9482]

I've been playing onslaught since launch and just today got this lunas howl. So tough good luck yall last week tp try and get it 💪

[@danielcolt5542]

I LOVE heal clip incandescent Luna's and have found myself really prefering the survability over explosive payload from Zaouli's Bane in pantheon, however a roll i would not overlook is enhanced subsistence incandescent since with back up mag itll get THREE bullets back perk kill which will make it pretty insane for ad clear. I have a similar roll which i love on round robin but incandescent will make this a whole new beast

[@brianlutz7813]

Yeah, the weapon feels really good. Didn't know heal clip was so legit until I started to use it.

[@TheCurlyfryBaggins]

Pretty sure you’ll be able to change the mag perk tomorrow cause you can enhance the guns

[@COREcasual]

mag howl should stack with precision hits AND kills. kinda like wish keeper

[@gregbrown1708]

Ehroar, if you’re playing the top plates on the planets encounter you can jump across on top of the planets without having to go into the middle exposing yourself to all of those adds

[@SirDillius]

Missed you ehroar

[@nappy6806]

Keep in mind the “ darkest before” gets this roll and pulses are getting omega buff in final shape

[@anthonygomez9918]

Even better, get an Ahortative. Its craftable and his Origin Perks let's you fire almost infinite

[@nappy6806]

@@anthonygomez9918 true but darkest looks more clean to me personally

[@anthonygomez9918]

@nappy6806 oh and it's a sexier gun to

[@sebastian_blair6685]

It's profecy this week guys don't forget

[@bc8092]

I was able to get an enlightened action + incan and desperate measures roll with a stability masterwork and hammer forged+ flared mag and I said “f this I’m done farming”. Took weeks to get it

[@GyanPrakash]

Adept Zouli’s Bane with Explosive Payload + Incandescent 😊

[@CharlesSpadina3030]

My personal favorite but in 2 weeks we’ll be able to enhance Brave weapons, so the gap will likely be bridged between the two at least a little bit

[@JA-kr1lz]

@@CharlesSpadina3030you’ll be able to enhance adept king’s fall weapons too though lol

[@rebcommando587]

Explosive isn't heal clip

[@okthisisepic9218]

@@CharlesSpadina3030keep coping bro, Lunas isn’t that great hc is a mid perk that people pretend is extremely good

[@OG__GreenCrack]

Does magnificent howl perk stay after reload if you swap weapons? If so I want to see the testing with lucky pants cause that’s would be off the charts damage

[@coreyloseman8262]

I believe astecross said it does

[@-thebatman-]

It does stay but the damage from lucky pants isn’t that great cross tested it did like 390k lucky pants does more damage with faster firing weapons top we’re wardens law, malfeasance, and I think erianas vow Luna’s was pretty mid tier

[@pineapplemaster2114]

I choose luna's howl over the sunshot, I really do enjoy how the luna handle and how it feel overall even if the sunshot is a stronger crowd control beast

[@evanschneider47]

I got corkscrew, flared mag, heal clip incandescent and a reload masterwork

[@Exsdeeee]

one of my first rolls when i focused was heal clip incandescent w light mag and full bore. never deleted it, things a menace

[@rujuk75]

I got a shiny Luna's Howl with Reload MW, Flared Magwell, Heal Clip, Incandescent/Desperate Measures And I love it. 👍

[@TheRealGotham]

Got 2 heal and Incan with flared and a reload mw and an enlightened action Incan to use with my precious scars

[@treymanz9387]

"there are no reload perks" enlightened action is there. I feel like no one talks about it

[@feircy]

I got it but I have yet to use it over crafted zaouli's. Def worth if you dont have that though

[@DR_IP69]

imo a crafted zaoul's bane is the best energy for hard and normal content atm

[@oxsila]

Took me no joke like 400 drops for heal clip + incandescent to finally drop. Never mind a 5/5, just those 2 perks. Finally.

[@CapsFan]

I’m still not seeing how Luna’s is better than Zaouli’s. EDIT - Especially if you’re capable of finding an LFG and landing a Harrowed roll, which will be Enhancable in Final Shape and can slot Adept Reload.

[@rocconatale9503]

Bc zhoulis is way harder to get in general let alone with a good roll. I have cleared kings fall so many times that i have almost three (missing 2 on yasmin) of the weapons craftable. Have yet to recieve a single zhoulis at all red border or normal. You are correct that it is better at filling sunshot role than lunas tho. Lunas is more akin to a legendary ace if you can get a good mh roll on it.

[@IXIHSO]

Luna's will also be enhanceable in TFS as well

[@phattjokergaming7827]

Got mine eventually but healclip, incandescent is a very rare drop.

[@rebcommando587]

Its not

[@exxy9931]

One argument against Envious>ALH I’ve experienced recently is if you’re not able to readily clear ads, you won’t get as much mileage out of Envious (I can’t really think of a time where you wouldn’t other than if you’re a runner for Caretaker, I’m sure there might be more). Just something to be mindful of for use case.

[@damionh7218]

Forebearance Is about to be outshined by undercurrent because of vaultshot paired with demo, stats for all or lead from gold. With the chain reaction nerf I think this is the best option

[@eddiecorleto7254]

wow i had a hc/inc light mag reload mw sitting in my vault

[@kajex7589]

I have at least three legendary weapons rn that would have easily shipped as exotics 3 years ago.

[@HoopleHeadUSA]

Got mine! But also want to shout out craftable Adhortative pulse with HC + Incan, will get a buff next season too

[@rodoc0222]

the only issue is that it's got a 180rpm recoil animation, they need to make that shit kick more

[@anthonygomez9918]

Adhortative gonna clear all of this Heal/Inca weapons

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

When all is said and done I'll still go back to my Abyss Defiant lol.

[@imLeyt0n]

The incandescent and heal clip roll is literally hands down the better option than zoulis bane

[@sethbierman7946]

I love you Ehroar

[@Aridorable109]

Bro just recommended spike nades.....

[@cosmicquazar88]

So many people not willing to move on from Zaolis. Heal clip os the better perk. I just dont think explosive changes the break points for damage enough on handcannons to utilize it over a utility perk like HC.

[@Ligh7Bulb]

2:35 Pantheon: Planets: Back plates: Bro just jump along the tops of the planets to get across. Much safer

[@karceri2475]

I love seeing these videos then checking DIM and that mass hoarding I did pays off. Hype

[@jordanbrad2298]

You didn't mention that Bungie will be allowing you to enhance these brave weapons. Another gun to look out for might be the Blast Furnace because of the huge buffs Bungie is giving to Pulse Rifles. I'm personally looking for Frenzy and Kinetic Tremors

[@arturopenuela8907]

I got lucky and have both incandescent heal clip/ and eye of the storm and kill clip roles, I don’t wanna be too greedy but I wanna get heal clip kill clip next 😝

[@kuwaitian1579]

rumor has it ehroar only posts when he has a sponser

[@ryanhashimoto9189]

It needs to hit harder which it doesn’t, I’ll take king’s fall hand cannon

[@Nailfut]

HC/Incandescent Luna's Howl is good, really good and it feels just right, as I never liked Zaouli's Bane. Ofc, it's even better in a raid/dungeon team with a solar build and ember of benevolence. This changed by Well-lock build. I know Sunshot is better and it will still is in solo content, but in a team, I prefer the benefits of heal clip.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

I'm just someone who dislikes that 180 HC visual kick. I like it more when the weapons kick a bit more and away, allowing me to see my target in between shots. The 180 kick covers the enemy too much, at least on high FOV. Not sure if I want to reduce FOV for the sake of visual target acquisition.

[@innovation9667]

This build is insane! I was finally able to clear the Inverted Spire Strike on Nessus! Much love from Germany

[@innovation9667]

Same

[@Jcdwl0]

anyone know the robe ornament on his warlock?

[@photosimonson]

me with my adept igneous that has heal clip + frenzy/incandescent :)

[@solarflarearmor2081]

I got lucky and managed to get 1 HC/Incandescent roll the week that Lunas was released

[@majormallard366]

My first shiny was heal clip incandescent and jt replaced my zaoulis

[@ericbaek3706]

I like high caliber rounds over explosive.

[@Zleepy_ZzZ]

i want to like this gun but im too addicted to explosive payload on hcs, it just doesnt feel as strong as zaoulis

[@vezrien]

lol I eat 2 factors every day, it's amazing.

[@YelloWabbit]

I literally have every possible god roll stacked into gold borders but all I wanted was subsistence/incandescent. I’ve grinded upwards of 300 Lunas and not a single one dropped. What the heck am I not doing right?

[@Ishboo182]

Not everything is a paradox. PVP exists.

[@Adam-xs4eo]

the amount of slideshot/incandesant lunas ive gotten is ridiculous. and they are the only ones ive gotten incan- on smh

[@fletch6676]

I have probably gotten 300+ rolls of it nevertheless gets hc+incandescent

[@Frost.7xx]

Not sure if I’d compare this to sunshot…. It’s no where near the add clear god that is sunshot. Its more a utility weapon to stay alive when using an exotic in a different slot. The solar dmg type has insane synergy too with healing nades to keep that resto going. Especially on a hand cannon.. for hunters this goes hard. Ridiculously hard. But its plays a very different roll than sunshot

[@corylewis7219]

For planets, jump on top of the actual planets.

[@knightofavalon86]

I have been hunting this roll but on Igneous Hammer for MONTHS. I want the harder per-bullet hit.

[@-thebatman-]

But it reloads even slower than 140s

[@knightofavalon86]

@@-thebatman- I play solo a lot, and Alacrity entirely negates the poor reload. It's like outlaw fast all the time.

[@DK-ub7oz]

what if my edge transit doesnt have spike nades, should I keep farming it?

[@ghosty6031]

Lucky I have 5/5 pve good can’t wait to enhance it

[@JonathanSimmons42]

I’ve been farming for HC/incan since lunas came out. Haven’t gotten one yet. I don’t think it exists

[@meggidussmith1290]

IDK why I didn't think about this. Im kind of sick of sunshot taking my exotic slot but im not ready to raid

[@frannciscoosornio8529]

I've been grinding for this roll but I can't get it at all

[@mikew6554]

Mag howl in current state is not a PvE perk. It was incredible in PvE when it first rolled out but it's really only good for PvP now (specifically sixes).

[@skuirrelTV]

Shader at 4:00?

[@boookythegod]

I mean, it’s not sunshot it only goes crazy because artifact mods lol