This Needs to be Said...

[@omSpeedd]

I don't expect to be forgiven, but this time i want to make a proper apologies. I am very sorry for my actions, comparing one player to another is not a good thing, I'm very sorry to everyone who were harmed about the things i said, especially to the one i compared to. And you're right about the apologies that i wrote on my profile, it was all rushed and i didn't know what i was saying. I realized that the apologies on my profile did not look good with the 'twitter' thing and does not look sincere, but that was too late change. I may be missing something but this is all i could think of. Again, i am very sorry for my actions.

[@Kibitz]

owo)b

[@Aimiya_Ria]

dude skill = rank frfr

[@nou8850]

😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@auuuuuuuugh]

only sorry because you got caught 💤

[@eyesneveropen-meow-5125]

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[@xerxzy]

This does not change the fact that in Australia there are 48 million kangaroos and in Uruguay there are 3,457,380 inhabitants. So if the kangaroos decide to invade Uruguay, each Uruguayan will have to fight 14 kangaroos.

[@Kibitz]

Very cool

[@IN-pr3lw]

There's more Kangaroos in Australia than people

[@Voo9999]

TRUE…

[@awd7477]

what about cows and chickens

[@mozzarellamaniac6300]

Very off topic but (owo)b

[@SillyFangirlosu]

We just need more of these content bro, keep going !

[@Kibitz]

Thanks Nate, will do :)

[@sizzle.d]

@@KaneMining daddymining omg

[@icicle260]

4th lol

[@mkmj1643]

@@sizzle.d daddychunmaru omg

[@Prince1608]

SILLENGLIOUPS!!!!!!!

[@jemmarasigan2418]

A bit of perspective to the "joke", as someone who spend a decent amount of time in Filipino gaming communities and is a Filipino my self. Comparing ranks or bragging about it is very common. Obviously, it is toxic behaviour to do such thing, but in the Filipino gaming communities most people shrug it of as a joke and almost everyone anonymously agree that it is "humour". Which is why I kind of understand Speed's condescending tone in his/her apology.

[@TENZOI]

Can vouch, also a filipino myself. And we do that type of jokes also in our friend group.

[@makatutu1]

Can also vouch

[@skysoar7782]

Can vouch as well as someone who plays ml and is finally in mythic

[@dewaputrahamdani2286]

I think indonesian do that too sometimes like comparing ranks

[@iicaryin]

@@TENZOI yeah, same

[@SpeedyGD5]

As a Filipino, I feel a lot of second hand embarrassment.

[@Kibitz]

It's all good, we all have to cope living with them

[@SpeedyGD5]

@@Kibitz Thanks haha

[@jow03]

bitches do be tarnishing the country (although it's already tarnished due to the recent news)

[@luculia1655]

I'm so sorry I have a genetic disease called being Filipino

[@d0sky]

@@luculia1655 facts

[@ominoussage]

This is what you'll be if you become really good in a game when you just started out. You end up being an inexperienced high-ranked kid boasting how good you are and believes that rank = skill with no respect to lower ranked players whatsoever.

[@Tenta_meow]

i feel like ive been seeing more and more people like that recently which is definitely not a good sign

[@ominoussage]

@@Tenta_meow i guess new players are just becoming better and better these days because 1k pp is not impossible anymore

[@theangrynerd101]

@@ominoussage And because the newer players are younger and less mature, and it could also be that because they improve so quickly and move up in the ranking so quickly, they don't gain as much experience or hone / develop their skills / fundamentals properly.

[@UmbraWeiss]

@@Tenta_meow Don't expect anything when the game forces you to be a dick, almost every new map is made just for the reason to exploit the pp system... Imagine players who only play those maps and get a high rank because all you do all day is farming those.

[@nadavvvv]

Robeats moment

[@puffonxe]

as a filipino, im sorry for existing

[@Kibitz]

It is something we must all cope with

[@sonic176yt7]

It's fine mate (as an Aussie btw)

[@tingmomentum]

Kibitz: "You made a mistake, move on from it" Petty mfs in the mania community: "oh hell nah boy we are going to remind speedskilled of this 24/7 he just ended the world bro" but i agree to what you said speedskilled is clearly in the wrong

[@mkmj1643]

LMAO thats so true

[@IsseiL]

I understood this very well when I saw a 6 digit in standard hitting 400pp streams, the guy didn't farm at all, then proceeded to actually play pp-worthy maps and get to ~5.5k in a couple of months

[@sinofcringe]

well said, do more osu community commentary. i actually really enjoyed this one.

[@Mari_1128]

M a r i p f p

[@iiafa]

Is that osu! mania streamer sinofcringe????

[@lonelyweeb03]

Personally, his apology looked like he wanted to just quickly wanted to move on from the situation. Thing is, that almost always backfires, and people can sense when you're disingenuous. Also, since when did rank matter? I have been in the top 2000 for 3 years and that doesn't make me feel any more better than the people above me in skill (sometimes at least).

[@Kibitz]

The influx of new players from gmt and roblox made the game more popular and competitive for rank

[@Kibitz]

Fnf* autocorrected to gmt

[@lonelyweeb03]

Well this is true, but there are players from those games I personally know that grew to be good and aren't boasting about it. It is just that not everyone can be like those individuals I am mentioning. Everyone grows differently in the rhythm game landscape.

[@zofatuz]

Great video, I thoroughly agree with your opinion and you shouldn't be hesitating to voice out your clear opinion!

[@sebassebas8022]

Very well said. There is a lot more to the game then just rank and it’s pretty unfortunate that this kind of toxicity happened. Sure someone may be a 4 digit but that doesn’t mean they’re actually “4 digit skill”.

[@LOLzum101]

So toxic saying how isn't he in the team 💀💀😭😭 what an evil person. How could someone EVER say that. Its much better to name, shame and make an entire video about it slamming the player instead of educating about the misconception. This video could have been made with the same outcome while blurring the name. This is toxic as fuck

[@Tnepi]

@@LOLzum101 Its not toxic at all, the video wasn't about belittling the person being mentioned in the video, that person was just used as an example to explain the misconception more thoroughly, and it wasn't designed to specifically shame speed in any way shape or form. Plus if people decided that he wasn't good enough to be on the team for whatever reason, then he's not good enough to be on the team.

[@bojjajang]

its his birthday forgive him 😆

[@Kibitz]

I didn’t know T_T

[@ForcedToPayF2P]

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[@ioniic07]

I agree completely with this video. Despite being an Osu STD player, rank doesn’t determine your level of skill, fully. I for one realised this when playing a multi lobby for fun, where many different types of maps are picked. I am rank 35k globally and there was this 6 digit, around rank 100k, completely destroying some of the higher rank players in the lobby. At first I thought he was cheating, or an offline player, but when I looked at his playtime on his profile, he accumulated 80 days total playtime. I for one was a rank 35k, but only had 15 days of playtime. This made me realize how different it is from playing multiple skill sets and putting a lot of time is as compared to completely playing the game for rank whilst only using one mod.

[@Kibitz]

Yes, everyone is good at their own skill set and rank can’t justify any of those skill sets individually

[@ssHadoWYTx]

@@Kibitz yes and there is mreek

[@4hedron852]

40-45k osu standard player taking a hiatus here. I get shit on all the time by 6 digits. I have a decently diverse skillset but I’ve also basically retry spammed all of my top plays. There is a very specific skillset I could usually beat some of the better 6 digits in, and even then no guarantee. Rank doesn’t really matter.

[@SolarFlare307]

Ok but if a 6 digit has 80 days of playtime, they're most likely a deranker, probably for tournaments, which is kinda scummy

[@blunket]

idk why im seeing way more toxic people in this community recently. is it really that hard to be friendly to others?

[@u-f-0]

Join server

[@LOLzum101]

Yes what he did was toxic. Making a video naming and shaming someone and leaking messages on discord isn't toxic. What a fucking world we live in. Baa more sheep

[@theangrynerd101]

Younger players, most likely coming from Roblox or fnf.

[@hubutnotsotao5362]

I don't know, but I can see younger people act like this

[@LOLzum101]

@@hubutnotsotao5362 imagine getting this worked up because a 14 Yr old said he was better than someone else at a video game on his own server 💀 💀 💀

[@Vrenrik]

tbh 4k maps are mostly more difficult as 7k. sure 1:35 looks rly impressive but for such stream maps you just have to spam as fast as possible. try to do the same thing on a 4k map which got a 10 or 15 star rating. you'll see it's a lot more difficult. Edit: more fingers does not mean more difficult. who is already used to writing with 10 fingers (ok 8 + 2 thumbs) will not have any great difficulties with 5k - 9k. in addition, you get significantly higher kps with more fingers, which makes it less impressive.

[@KadeDev]

not really into osu!mania's community, but I really agree with the skillset stuff. Thats why I really like etterna's way of ranking, since it is based around different skillsets. It's not perfect but it's definitely better than most. looks like speed apologized for this anyways, so I hope they go on to learn from it. good video!

[@Kibitz]

Thank you so much !

[@zenovax8759]

Omg kade dev plays etterna?!1?1?1!1!11??1!1?1?1?1😱😱😱😱😱😱😳😳😳😳😭😭😭😭🗿🗿🗿🗿💯💯💯💯😎😎😎🔥🔥

[@rocksea11]

People that compare other players because of their rank is actually stupid. Ranks don't matter at all, in this game whatsoever. Thank you for this video!

[@gdbluefirre6749]

My arguement for that os digitalhypno, a tournament demon who was 4 digit for years in standard until he had a bet with exarch to get as high in the rankings as possible and he got rank 289 peak.

[@Merakisaki]

i lost a friend because of this. he was so toxic because he was higher rank than everyone else, and so he thought he had more “authority/respect” than anyone else. was disappointing to see :/

[@u-f-0]

That’s cap ranks do matter to a degree it’s just a different skill set being able to farm ranked maps and can still be impressive

[@Skeleton43]

Considering over 90% of the playerbase would quit instantly if rankings weren't in the game, i would say that rank matters quite a bit..

[@reigel460]

but the competitive value of osu is what motivate me to improve tho, although im still bad, all this while realising that rank NOT equals skill (to test that just play multiplayer with low rank k̶o̶r̶e̶a̶n̶ players XD)

[@iiaethereal7518]

hopefully this wont rub off a bad reputation on the philippines team

[@phiiicubed]

i am so embarrassed by my country

[@UmbraWeiss]

Rank is just a number that most of the time only shows who is the bigger farmer.

[@nahnvm8493]

Depends on the rank difference… I’m a 6 digit in standard (well used to be one day ago) and I’ve beaten people 30k ranks above me but I know that if I were to face someone who is 4 digit or high 5 digit then I’d get my ass whooped no matter if they were a dirty farmer or not.

[@hiritakaragi]

i feel so sorry for people who experience the toxicity of my own country and i hope you guys can forgive the toxic filipinos you meet, its just that almost every filipino are competitive when it comes to games theyre good at and it reaches a point when they become toxic even to foreigners

[@punjabimen9203]

fr

[@slyderai]

fr

[@henjaiamamiya8795]

fr

[@EVziphrinx]

fr

[@id10cyy]

fr

[@puddles8314]

Im not a top notch player but seeing excellent scores from accuracy players really gives me goosebumps. Please appreciate them more as said in the video.

[@Kibitz]

o7 Acc player supremacy

[@themysteryl69]

Hi :)

[@Kibitz]

@@themysteryl69 you’re too good :(

[@themysteryl69]

@@Kibitz no you!!

[@nadavvvv]

How acc plz

[@a1ternation]

It’s not that a mania player’s rank does not indicate the player’s skill at all. Higher rank does usually indicate a player’s capability on raw skill, but raw skill is barely relevant in the earlier stages of tournaments like MWC. Accuracy, consistency and memorisation all play way more important roles in earlier rounds. Therefore, mocking our captain (who was decided to be our captain not due to his skills, but his experience in tournament logistics and team organisation) on the basis of his raw skills to judge our entire team’s capability in the tournament is less of being rude really, but more of being misinformed or simply ignorant. This incident did kind of boost our team spirit though ;)

[@Kibitz]

Good luck to y’all against USA :)

[@a1ternation]

@@Kibitz thnx we’ll try our best hahaha ;)

[@wakadusa8649]

I been sittin at same rank for like a year now man im too lazy to care about farming im just happy I passed galaxy collapse once lmao

[@judehanma]

This could happen with "Dans=skill" one day

[@Konomi_io]

what do you mean "one day" ive already seen it happening 💀

[@DaMeMeThEiFxD4712]

it already happened before and it's still there

[@nadavvvv]

Dans=skill has been happening for at least 6 years

[@ddiu522]

Kinda sad cuz it's not even like rank doesn't equal skill is a new concept, its something that literally anyone who has put any amount of time in this game knows.

[@Destroy194]

Ranking would be better if chordjacks and other type of skillsets were ranked and not just BS LN and jumptrills

[@Kibitz]

Well nothing stops people from playing unranked chord jack maps either

[@Qisth75]

Haunted, Vend, Grin: ??? Ok I'll stop

[@Destroy194]

@@Qisth75 well just 3 maps isnt enough+they are so underrated like haunted is 6.4 stars even thought its harder then some DT maps that are 8 stars like kai dan DT

[@Qisth75]

@@Destroy194 true tbh also I think there aren't that many single stream maps in ranked apart from empress sc and eternal 2nd last diff + other maps I forgot

[@saberbestgirl20]

when osumania content creator talked about skillsets ≠ rank argument better than osu standard players :skull:

[@Rolfeyy]

I’m not even a 4 digit, but I can definitely understand the frustration I find it funny that in my case I suffer the opposite, where I can read high nps and my eyes can follow it fine, but I can’t move my hands fast enough :( I’ll just stick to high Acc 4*

[@nootnoot6989]

They really did my MWC captain (PotassiumF) and team like that 😔

[@themysteryl69]

i call this documentary

[@themysteryl69]

very funny joke 100%

[@Kibitz]

@@themysteryl69 o7

[@leonn1805]

Didn't expect this tweet to blow up lmao, but still this topic not only needs to be addressed (since many people are saying this especially since the past year) but also the people who do such things really need to stop, cuz it's so damaging to this community greatly and its just so sad to see So yea great vid and commentary by you again, and I hope this message can get through the people who do this and their thick ass skulls

[@Wolf-ss2li]

Just found this video through recommendations and really enjoyed it. Would love to see more osu stuff! Subbed ^^

[@Kibitz]

Thank you!!

[@carbonatedmilk123]

i found speed through roblox obbies, got into osu, found that he played mania, and now he's in drama. dude wtf.

[@thewandererstrip]

literally the exact same thing for me lol

[@bigbluepikachu]

same

[@Dyeeeii]

the perfect birthday present

[@SorAosu]

thank you SO MUCH for speaking this up dude i'm absolutely fkin tired from those deadass farmers who think they can dominate an entire tournament and ends up losing early cause of bad accuracy you deserve more than millions views for this

[@DaMeMeThEiFxD4712]

a perfect video on his (speed) birthday 💀

[@Kibitz]

oops completely coincidental i swear :)

[@_Inzane]

@@Kibitz YEP

[@LOLzum101]

@@Kibitz getting so triggered by someones opinion you try to ruin someones bday 💀💀 u must be a real winner irl huh

[@arccat]

Thanks for covering this.

[@Kibitz]

owo)b

[@corequisites7559]

Nps is not equal to difficulty, but what about total notes divided by duration, then divide the answer by the amount of keys (like 4k, 7k)

[@Kibitz]

I think in this context, it's more so comparing patterning to how difficulty is perceived rather than considering length

[@0knoP]

long story short there is a reason that world cup isn't Myuka vs Monging guy

[@saltychips4962]

I came because i saw NEKO from cytus II, stayed for the drama

[@lamp88]

i don't play mania but i believe this is important cuz it applies to every osu game

[@hehw2]

that one random 6 digit: hold my drink

[@mistertwisterbee]

i agree with this, especially with new people entering osu and not knowing how ranks work

[@fuzzybuttz2003]

I'm way overranked but I'm still proud of hitting rank 5.3k in a year with no prior rhythm game experience

[@rikukasu7793]

Same I am overranked oso due to ln 7k Peppy when pp rework for mania again T.T I miss my graph straight down

[@biggestdawg800]

funny bc rn PH literally got the #2 seed in mwc

[@shenhuaaa9999]

as a filipino, im dissapointed

[@epiczer0ripper792]

Well his humour has a same level of PH dissing each other but his level mockery humour will destroy his reputation lol

[@rign_]

We have Osu!Drama now? oh cool!

[@arniie5288]

Thanks for covering this!!

[@user-ls1ef1dh5j]

The speed guy is mostly known for his "Roblox Parkour" skill the guy who commented is his second channel.

[@Kibitz]

I’m aware

[@luvxxlils]

True, Actually that seed (speed) guy is known for his skill is wallhop

[@kzon0]

never know ishowspeed play mania

[@neavako5541]

So what this means is that I as a rank 200k who hasn't played Mania in a year could be in MWC?

[@dewaputrahamdani2286]

Imagine a 2 digit or even 1 digit player replied : "Imagine having 3 digit, *ck ck ck* "

[@kazahana_osu]

Only thing higher rank equals to is a bigger ego

[@knoxzedlav7343]

as a representative of the Philippines, i will apologize on the behalf of skilledspeed

[@stein6707]

Actually i dont care about prior experience when it comes to tournaments. For example for the germam owc team there is a country wide tournament anyone can sign up to to compete for the german teams spots in owc.

[@pladselsker8340]

I wish people could just stop throwing rocks at each other

[@alphasyn4quasar]

I have to be real straight and honest, Gamma 97 does not mean you’re the boss of everything, and thinking you could get to mwc straightaway, NO!! As a tachyon Dan player aka me myself, I didn’t show enough good scores that’s why I wasn’t qualified, DANS DO NOT MATTER WITH SKILL COME ON GUYS, Rank also don’t matter It’s just players who played consistent hours for this, they don’t care whether your gamma, tachyon, delta, no.. you must show effort to make it TO THE qualifiers The job isn’t easy as you think, you need to push hard, you need practice from the start of your goal, PP as well don’t matter What I can say now by this is if you want to make it to the team, Show EFFORT AND NEVER HOLD BACK!! RANK AND DAN DONT MEAN ANYTHING TO SKILL, And never compare yourself with pros, it’s not a good thing , this is what aggravates players the most Ex. ‘You’re 2 dans lower than me, how could you be worst’ It aggravates even some high ranks as they get this all the time Anyway I’m just delivering this message for everyone as of this situation, again skilled, although you do have apologised, make sure you try harder next time if you want to make to the team Thank you, -Flandrex (DragonHean321) #4437 Country rank #99

[@alphasyn4quasar]

Again I was reluctant to send all this out, but you heard what solleks said few months ago until now of me saying this, DONT COMPARE WITH OTHERS

[@Lenevor]

As a filipino, i am 90% sure he was indeed trolling and was just having a normal day

[@osuventi4636]

That map on the first 2 seconds of the video looks oddly familiar

[@Kibitz]

It’s the new ghost map. It was in my previous video :)

[@unalaive]

ur not getting selected in x team from ur rank, it depends how ur attitude is how well known you are at the community, like "yea this player is better than this player, why is he getting selected but not the better player than him" while that better guy is always talking shit bout other people and having better rank, everything useless if you got no attitude in life sorry for ass english hope someone will know what i mean

[@thewandererstrip]

literally just came from one of his jtoh vids, didn't expect for him to be fricked in the mania community lol

[@sumunecacho6450]

I didn't expect a JToH player to be in this video. It is shocking how JToH players know OSU for whatever reason.

[@thewandererstrip]

@@sumunecacho6450 im literally a osu touchscreen and mania player and also my hardest in jtoh is steeple of climbing and tower of tokyo heights

[@flyerbram002]

best way to avoid all this fuckery when trying to get into mwc team is to just host a team qualifier tournament in your own country to decide who goes on the team and who doesnt

[@YtQuentin5110054]

Heyo quentin5110054 here from the france team, It was the first time that i did the mwc and man that was stressful , as someone who is top 550~ i can definitly say that rank isnt skill, for example lott is a 4digit and he rekt ass all day long, i dont usually do tournaments cuz i have stress issues , but they still wanted me bcz i build my reputation in the french community as a great player , even if im more knowed for playing a shit ton of ranked maps for top 50's or pp Plays or QUENTRILL QUENTRILL (fun fact i usually pp when im bored and i think there is nothing wrong with that lol 😎) , i think you guys should just play like you want and just enjoy the game like you want, play anything you want to play even if its shit like me doing some 1h maps or full jumptrill/splittrill/trill maps lol, i play like i want osu isnt meant to split ppl, we are a community. PS: i feel rly burned out of the game and i think im going to take a break, and i think some ppl should do the same before having the same problem, taking breaks is always a good thing, dont worry about your skill you'll get it back eventually, just take some time for you. Its important. Wish you all luck Bye bye

[@karlbjorn1831]

sanest cytus 2 player

[@snowultima_wolf13]

I didn't know that Kblitz from Malaysia. Me too, I'm Malaysia 🇲🇾

[@ariesoviko8475]

As a person with twisted dark humor who has no shame in social media and is also a filipino, i can tell you rn this guy is thirsty for clout and he probably thinks he is famous just because he is a top player (he is not famous btw i know 2ky more than this guy), which is why he is acting like that. I also have the need to say sorry for this persons cringe(?) attempt of looking good so, I apologize

[@Nnjaaaaaaa]

classic PH people that gets humiliated and makes the "it's just a joke" excuse LOL

[@coolgu3stlance344]

When i saw the Philippine flag, as another filipino, i just said to myself: another normal day

[@kayparody]

im like 96k (osu!std) but i think im just a little bit better than what my rank would suggest. sometimes i get the urge to set a score like once a month, but it usually ends in failure and i just go back to playing the game like i was before. playing songs i like, chillin, or maybe even playing certain maps out of my skill range to try and improve. in this situation, it can *MAYBE* apply to the 4 digit australian player in the video. some people like setting unranked scores or playing to get better rather than to gain pp. and thats what i do. i like to enjoy the game while also improving but i dont care for gaining pp.

[@nitroboosting1622]

As a filipino, i feel so ashamed.... ( But its something we all cope with )

[@gdbluefirre6749]

Although i am from the standard community we have seen this kind of attitude amongst top players too. For example a player from Belgium was so fucking toxic abiut rank etc that he got BANNED for it (he was rank 74 peak and number one country by over a thousand ranks). He was also not allowed to join the 2019 roster cause of that attitude, so this is sadly not new to me.

[@Kibitz]

std community monkaS

[@kzg_veritas12]

Mrekk kekw

[@Marune]

Considering yourself more valuable over lower ranks is completely normal behavior for a competitive game. It happens everywhere, even in pro teams, and this is the first instance where I've seen people butthurt over things that /one person/ has said in regards to rank placement; either the osu community is too sensitive to this sort of stuff or now I'm in a world where talking shit from a high horse is enough grounds to cancel someone and not just call them a clown and move on. He's #38 in Country ranking, meaning at least one of the 37 people above him might think the way he does - 'I can beat this person, I have a higher rank'. Have you never seen your rivals' scores and compared it to your own? But saying you can beat lower ranks and popping off about it is suddenly considered unsportsmanlike behavior now, huh? Dunking on someone for saying stupid shit on the internet has it's limits. It stops being fun when the person comes out typing apologetics and backpedaling out of embarrassment, but hey, someone's gotta make an example for everyone.

[@Kibitz]

This video isnt me dunking on him though, more so raising awareness that rank doesn’t justify you being in a position to see yourself as better

[@dan.booru2430]

>Considering yourself more valuable over lower ranks is completely normal behavior for a competitive game. Except osu!, first and foremost is a rhythm game before it is a competitive game. Rhythm games can test a huge variety of skills between different players, you should know this since you play Pump it Up. This is the reason why nobody really takes lower ranks for granted regardless of which gamemode you main, especially now that more players get drawn to maps of varying skillsets since Ranked maps have a lot more variety than just another aim-based J-Rock/Anime OP map. I'm 16k in Standard and I get mollywhopped by Have you ever seen your rivals' scores and compared it to your own? But saying you can beat lower ranks and popping off about it is suddenly considered unsportsmanlike behavior now, huh? First of all, what the fuck is this supposed to be, huh? An analogy? If it is, it's broken as shit. But I won't delve into that, I'll just be nitpicking if I did. Though for transparency's sake, I will say that I imagined your smug face typing that last part of the paragraph and I cannot stop laughing. On your first point. No rivalry should exist in a rhythm game community outside of friendly ones. This isn't like the FGC or Sports Communities, this is a fucking rhythm game. If you're out here wanting to create some hateful rivalries, I'd have to ask what the fuck are you even doing? Whenever I see a score my friend sets on a map, I feel inclined to play the map too. Whether or not I'll set a better score is up to my skills as a player, but do I ever feel inclined to go for a better score just because? Maybe, but only for shits and giggles. On your second point, nobody, and I mean NOBODY likes a braggart no matter which community you join. As the video says Rank=/=Skill, really the only way to see who is actually better is if you place them in a 1v1 situation where they play various maps from a decided pool. Huh, doesn't that sound oddly familiar? Oh yeah it does! Because prior to MWC, the Philippine osu! community did a country-locked Mania tournament for both 4K and 7K. If there was any better place for SpeedSkilled to make a case for the Philippine roster, that should have been the perfect stage to do so right? So did SpeedSkilled join? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. I guess my point is, unless you can show that you can walk the walk, don't fucking talk at all. >Dunking on someone for saying stupid shit on the internet has it's limits. It stops being fun when the person comes out typing apologetics and backpedaling out of embarrassment, OH WOW!! What a novel concept that hasn't been done by a lot of people who said stupid shit in the internet before! Also "it stops being fun when the person comes out typing apologetics". Who decided that? :tf: On a serious note though, did you even watch the video? If you did, you should probably watch it again and actually understand what they're talking about before shooting off of the mouth. I doubt anybody will hold this grudge over SpeedSkilled for a long long time--I know I won't, but boy this will be the topic of inside jokes for a while LOL--internet culture nowadays is very much come-and-go. Public opinion on a person can change over time, maybe next year we can get to see SpeedSkilled play in the PH Nationals and actually come to like the guy, who knows? If they wish to better themselves as a player and person, then I'm all for it. I just hope they don't forget to look back at this event in the future so they won't end up making the same mistake again.

[@Marune]

I did watch the video; I wrote that post because I understand where Speed is coming from (not that I know the guy, he's still a clown) and making an example of such a person is essentially making a mountain out of a molehill. Rhythm games have always been about you against yourself, surpassing your limits - But in a game with leaderboards and a flawed ranked system where a good chunk of the community is solely concentrated on watching big pp number go up, it's easy to find people like him. He's one of many, and in other gaming communities with ranked ladders, things like these are a non-issue because people are aware they exist. It's just cringe watching people flip their shit over behavior like this. I had my own osu phase, I reached #3 in my low tier country and participated in an MWC tournament because people had encouraged me to get good. I had rivals, people I wanted to beat and secretly hated because they play literally nothing else but osu; I ended up dropping the game and going back to IIDX because the competitive scene was suffocating. The need to get good at the game, surrounded by people who are doing the same, trying to stand out and seek validation makes everyone's ego inflate to dumb levels which is exactly what happened here. It's just silly.

[@Flygonnerrs]

2:24 💀

[@proxae]

dude rly produced this sheeesh also rank and pp matters... in vibro mashing skill yeah btw kibitz in NZ mwc roster when? 8)

[@Kibitz]

Not when i still have the MY flag on my profile

[@proxae]

ask osu supports aye

[@Konomi_io]

@@proxae osu support will not change your flag for any reason, ever. those are the rules

[@proxae]

that's shit

[@balf1344]

documentary

[@incongruous4]

If there's more that goes into difficulty than just note density, why did peppy make the entire difficulty system 100% off note density and refuses to change it despite being challenged about it over and over? checkmate

[@aIuph]

cause hes lazy and only cares about standard

[@incongruous4]

@@aIuph I was being sarcastic but for real. He's the yandere dev of rhythm games I swear. Ignores everyone's suggestions for features that are actually needed so he can spend years in dev hell making stuff no one cares about in lazer that barely anyone plays, that's also the missing core features people have been asking for since the beginning. Also frequently acts hostile and narcissistic towards mania players. He was in chat once and I asked him about reworking difficulty in mania to be less basic and he gave me a politician like answer, something along the lines of "well people are suggesting stuff and I'm kind of not really listening." So I asked what has he actually done or considered lately and he ignored me and dropped the conversation. What a frustrating guy

[@aIuph]

@@incongruous4 i remember he changed the marvelous judgement text in the argon skin to great and his reasoning was “i’ve never seen someone use marvelous for a top judgement before” or something like that, pretty embarrassing considering he claims he’s played o2jam and other vsrgs

[@z_xd_lol]

i'm assuming this was all said in a public discord? because if not there are a lot of people who ego type as jokes in group chats and stuff/complain about random things that made them kinda mad, so i just want to know

[@Kibitz]

Idk but i assume it's his discord server so yeah

[@madaacha]

Rank = skill? O2jam players laughing at this while chilling at 3-4 digits in mania

[@infinitstart]

I just wanna add a bit more from the perspective of a non-mania/very casual player, not to take a cheap shot but a friendly caution. In particular, "higher"-ranked players. REMEMBER, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANOTHER ACCOUNT(s) for this game. YOUR ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW IS YOU. So, Please be careful about what you've done. Especially matters that can cause an uproar.

[@lazardocic1030]

Imo this isn't a big deal, he trash talked, he didn't make the team, everyone will forget this in 2 weeks. I liked the video tho

[@yuuko.z]

You know until I saw this video I was calling 2ky sky instead of two - kee

[@Kibitz]

I think it is sky and I’m the wrong one haha

[@EASIllinois]

i always just say two-kai

[@degenera7039]

Really good video man, thanks for addressing :)

[@Bunnynumber276]

Damn im very disappointed in a fellow Filipino

[@kitsu8840]

i didnt even know who this guy was lol

[@4KennOsu]

Nice commentary!

[@Kibitz]

Thanks

[@happyvnlmao]

rank and pp dont affect your skill at all

[@choofxd]

wrong. bigger pp = better person (real) jk. im #2768 and have a better score on fitbs 0.9 than #959, #1345, and #1445 because jack main. but when it comes to LN i get completely destroyed even by people that are like #10000

[@bigbluepikachu]

im 7 digit at ln pog

[@Konomi_io]

rank =/= skill. im top 6000 and i still have to worry about fighting against fighting people who arent even 4 digit in certain things

[@nadavvvv]

To be fair some people are just smurfing REALLY hard. I'm like #160 and still lose to 5 digits too

[@kaslanaworld4746]

The moment i saw the Philippines flag, yeah not a surprise.

[@xetearVI]

yoo fellow malaysian mania player!!

[@Kibitz]

Hi :)

[@kit9837]

SKILL RANK SKILL RANK RANK SKILL, banger video btw

[@pori8898]

Just wanna say that rank =/= skill in ANY rhythm game

[@theguywhoasked-r7e]

Lol I think its just a normal bragging in ph, nothing to personal. He knows hes not the best, but just making fun of it because he has higher rank

[@hello_son8238]

im not sure what you’re talking about rank does = skill :clueless: (so rea)

[@aguynamed_danmooji]

ayo zspeedskilled from roolox?!

[@wsdark6713]

i like how you compared 2sky to jhlee LUL