This new camp chair is a stretch

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Dan Becker

Dan Becker

Күн бұрын

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@MattVHulst
@MattVHulst Ай бұрын
This one is tough. I applaud this guy for thinking outside the box. The world needs more of it. I just don’t know who this is for. I feel like people who are super concerned with weight will just forgo a chair completely. Those who do want to take the weight penalty in favor of comfort will actually want a comfortable chair.
@Kymus
@Kymus Ай бұрын
I really like this design because it provides a back rest without elevating you. This is good for, say, small hot tents, or tents with an awning that are low to the ground like the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL
@simon7719
@simon7719 Ай бұрын
​@@Kymus looks like it may be quite rough on a superlight floor, since you're putting your weight on a couple of points.
@PHYSIZIST
@PHYSIZIST Ай бұрын
in the uk, being able to sit up inside your tent in the rain on a long winter night is very, very nice
@PHYSIZIST
@PHYSIZIST Ай бұрын
@@simon7719 usually just fold some foam under?
@wyld_at_heartt7783
@wyld_at_heartt7783 Ай бұрын
💯
@Dare_Bear
@Dare_Bear Ай бұрын
If I had the money I’d totally use this in my tent under my quilt to chill and watch a movie when it’s raining.
@kookkamajunga
@kookkamajunga Ай бұрын
I didn’t even think about using it in a tent. That’s such a good idea
@majesticbob884
@majesticbob884 Ай бұрын
If it was adjustable I would have definitely been sold
@quickerchick
@quickerchick Ай бұрын
That is a good use for it. So hard to try and rest comfortable upright in a tent on a sleep system to watch a video.
@remyllebeau77
@remyllebeau77 Ай бұрын
You going to poke some holes in your tent footprint or ground cloth?
@tarekith
@tarekith Ай бұрын
This exactly what I was thinking, great for long nights in the tent winter camping. I'm curious how much this would press into the floor of my xmid.
@finerbiner
@finerbiner Ай бұрын
It's not a chair, it's a backrest.
@banzaii6285
@banzaii6285 Ай бұрын
Exactly...made it lighter by taking the legs off, I'll haul the extra weight to get off the ground. Cool idea though.
@deborahhill3105
@deborahhill3105 Ай бұрын
I was going to say the exact same thing.
@jbinmd
@jbinmd Ай бұрын
yeah, I don't need to bring anything with me if I want to sit on the ground
@sr202-n7c
@sr202-n7c Ай бұрын
I'd guess it's target market is for the people who already have sit pads in their backpacks. So it's more relaxing than just a sit pad, but not as big or heavy as a full chair. I can't really imagine using it by itself, but if I'm already carrying a sit pad as the back support of my backpack, I could see them combining together well
@SophisticatedDogCat
@SophisticatedDogCat Ай бұрын
It’s a chair.
@TheColson79
@TheColson79 Ай бұрын
This is an example of going to extreme to save a little weight. I'd carry and extra 8 oz all day to get off the ground with the chair zero.
@tobinstrike910
@tobinstrike910 Ай бұрын
You just can’t beat the chair zero
@SuperdutyExplorer
@SuperdutyExplorer Ай бұрын
You need the ground sheet!! but yes thee best
@rainmannoodles
@rainmannoodles Ай бұрын
Even if it’s not for everyone, it’s cool to have options.
@frambo7
@frambo7 Ай бұрын
I got similar one from Amazon, I use it for inside the tent in winter. Cheap but weighs about 500g
@SuperdutyExplorer
@SuperdutyExplorer Ай бұрын
@frambo7 that does make sense then!! I switched to a msr frontrange in spring, so it big enough to use my chair inside the tent!
@scout06171
@scout06171 Ай бұрын
6:40 what I like most about this design is that it can be used inside a 1-2 person tent whereas that ain’t happening with the other chairs.
@eddiekane1202
@eddiekane1202 Ай бұрын
Helinox ground chair fits in a tent just fine and keeps you off the ground. Definitely not the lightest option they have but it’s a great design
@fatbikejamie
@fatbikejamie Ай бұрын
@@eddiekane1202 came here to say pretty much exactly this!
@eddiekane1202
@eddiekane1202 Ай бұрын
@@fatbikejamie so glad I found it and it replaced my glassing pad. Long glassing sessions on the mountain are so much more tolerable
@viper071
@viper071 Ай бұрын
that's probably the only use for it
@TheRealStove
@TheRealStove Ай бұрын
@@eddiekane1202 In what tent? Lol Definitely doesn’t work in my X mid.
@Tmgarrison1
@Tmgarrison1 Ай бұрын
I like this format. Giving small companies some screen time can really help. You honesty is key in videos like this. You should do more of these not just chairs!
@r3d4c7
@r3d4c7 Ай бұрын
This would be great for lawn concerts
@sfollows
@sfollows Ай бұрын
More innovation in the space is always appreciated. I have a helinox ground chair which makes camp really comfortable for me. I feel like with this chair I would need a seat pad to keep my butt warm while sitting on the ground
@boyzinthewood1
@boyzinthewood1 Ай бұрын
No legs, not a chair. It's a seat pad with a back rest.
@MharkelBellacour
@MharkelBellacour Ай бұрын
Not even a pad my guy! It’s just a piece of fabric between you and the ground
@boyzinthewood1
@boyzinthewood1 Ай бұрын
@MharkelBellacour yeah, very true 👍
@martinerhard8447
@martinerhard8447 Ай бұрын
@@MharkelBellacour I rather don’t have an integrated pad. That allows for more flexibility
@cramias1
@cramias1 Ай бұрын
This is similar to the 3 oz Qwikback chair sold on litesmith. Probably a little more robust, but from a design perspective very similar. The qwikback chair never really took off, and I think its a tough sell - the people who carry chairs to begin with are fundamentally prioritizing comfort over weight, so they're more likely to choose a chair that gives them a comfortable leg position. While the people who prioritize weight over comfort are more likely to not carry a chair at all. There's probably buyers for this, but I don't think its going to displace helinox. I don't see this as functionally too different than sitting on the ground and leaning against your pack that's leaned on a rock or tree.
@tc2156
@tc2156 Ай бұрын
I also immediately thought of the Qwikback and Mountainsmith Sling Back when I saw this. Though this one looks more comfortable than the Qwikback.
@scout06171
@scout06171 Ай бұрын
3:48 when in the Army, we made seat backs like this all the time. We used sticks and canvas with 550 cord.
@jhaas68865
@jhaas68865 Ай бұрын
This is a pretty cool idea actually as someone who camps and works in IT closets. Sometimes you have to sit on the ground or floor and just being able to lean back a little makes a huge difference for comfort. I wouldn’t call it a chair but as I get older a sit pad with some back support sounds like a good idea.
@Dr.Schlitz
@Dr.Schlitz Ай бұрын
Question: “How do you make the lightest backpacking chair?” Answer: “Redefine ‘chair’.”
@daviddarlingauthor
@daviddarlingauthor Ай бұрын
If that chair was considered Part One, I'd buy it right now. Part Two: would include a support system to sit off the ground. That way folks can pick and choose which one to use, part one or part one AND two. It will also help if Part 2 would be able to be used as a table, or a stool, without the part one. Good concept, now run with it.
@kristisartori8476
@kristisartori8476 Ай бұрын
The trekker chair kit by thermarest converts your sleeping pad into a chair like this, so you do get vetter comfort and a few inches off the ground (so some warmth, too)
@debbilermond1553
@debbilermond1553 Ай бұрын
The Antimatter chair is a novel idea but probably a deal breaker for older hikers who struggle to get up off the ground because of stiff knees. The weight and packable size are intriguing to me but for now, I will stick with my Helinox Chair Zero because it has legs. I live in the Pacific Northwet where sitting on squishy wet logs or ground can really put a damper (I do mean that literally) on a comfortable hiking experience. Dan, I do appreciate you bringing new hiking gear to our attention and I hope you will keep doing it for the hiking community! 😁👍
@joeycerelli
@joeycerelli Ай бұрын
No way I'd use that chair. I'm too old to sit on the ground. I'd never be able to stand up again after a 15 mile day.
@scottchristie625
@scottchristie625 Ай бұрын
My immediate first thought - great idea but I want to sit off the ground and will gladly pay the weight penalty.
@radikl_ed
@radikl_ed Ай бұрын
Interesting. What sleeping pad do you use that’s not on the ground?
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs Ай бұрын
Well, IT AINT FOR YOU. YOU ARENT THE MAIN CHARACTER Old conceited @ss
@paulshirley3054
@paulshirley3054 Ай бұрын
69 year old and my feelings too
@SpaceAstriod
@SpaceAstriod Ай бұрын
That chair would make A LOT more sense if that had been shown IN the tent. I think thats where it shines. I dont think its a around the fire type of chair but it has its strengths.
@LoamReaper
@LoamReaper Ай бұрын
"a lot"
@RedSarGaming
@RedSarGaming Ай бұрын
I agree, but then how would this chair be any different than one of those backrests you can buy for your sleeping pad? Those weight less too.
@kateK24
@kateK24 Ай бұрын
@@RedSarGaming I'd say this "chair" IS a backrest. I'm not sure how it differs from those you are referring to.
@shawnbrennan7526
@shawnbrennan7526 Ай бұрын
@@RedSarGaming It SEEMS like you can lean back in this more than those other versions.
@Temporalplace
@Temporalplace Ай бұрын
Yeah and destroy your tent bottom
@khristian4340
@khristian4340 Ай бұрын
This has been around for awhile. LiteSmith has one for 2.65oz and it's $70. Someone else also made one that used trekking poles instead of rods that are provided but it was heavier.
@SandraOrtmann1976
@SandraOrtmann1976 Ай бұрын
I would call this a stadion chair. The legs are missing. So it kind of defies the purpose of an ultralight chair for some people. Particularly when you are a little older. You do not want to sit on the ground anymore. And if you add legs, the result is the Helinox chair.
@Darignobullseye
@Darignobullseye Ай бұрын
I love this different Idea. Lets think differently. A great start for those who hike. With imagination this can also be used in a tent or at home. I love the innivation.
@rickwebermusic
@rickwebermusic Ай бұрын
Pretty nice design overall. I made my own "Jerry chair" years ago out of ripstop nylon. It uses my trekking poles to support the back, so there's no extra items to carry. It also has a sleeve in the bottom for a sit pad to give a little more cushion when sitting on the ground. The chair only adds 2oz to my pack. But what makes it so great is that I can bring my Stansport stool- which is only 16oz, and attach the chair to the stool via kam snaps, and it allows me to sit comfortably off the ground by extending the length of my trekking poles for the back support. I also built it so the back comes all the way up to my shoulders. It's way more comfortable than a Helinox, and essentially the same weight as a Helinox Zero when you account for the weight of the stool.
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs Ай бұрын
Fantastic. Share the plan's Stan!!!!
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs Ай бұрын
Better yet, patent that shiznit and TAKE MY MONEY
@pedalparadise4096
@pedalparadise4096 Ай бұрын
I made a sling chair like this but couldn't figure out how to get off the ground, connecting to a stool. KamSnaps! Awesome solution! TY!🎉
@xureality
@xureality Ай бұрын
​@@FranklinHicks-qs4gsthe original plan is locked behind hammockforums donation wall, but if you look up the mountainsmith slingback chair it's almost identical. It's super easy to make if you have a piece of ripstop and a sewing machine.
@Jonsoh811
@Jonsoh811 Ай бұрын
For 0,68 lbs you can buy a “zitterik” here in the Netherlands. It is basically an adjustable and padded back rest/sit pad. Way more versatile than the product mentioned here. Yes it’s larger to pack, but just put on a log to make a chair. It’s used and sold by boyscouts for €25,-.
@jonbedet
@jonbedet Ай бұрын
As someone else from the Netherlands I say: dankjewel! This indeed looks similar, might be on my wishlist soon.
@Jonsoh811
@Jonsoh811 Ай бұрын
@ graag gedaan, hier gaat hij echt overal bij mee.
@invaderjoshua6280
@invaderjoshua6280 Ай бұрын
You cant claim to have the lightest chair and take out half the chair in the process to reach that.
@steveb6444
@steveb6444 Ай бұрын
Kifaru came out with this exact same design of a chair like 10 years ago. I don’t think people liked them very much and they discontinued it but this is like pretty much an exact copy. On another note, I have a knafs knife and it is an amazing knife that I use every single day at work
@miscellaneous263
@miscellaneous263 Ай бұрын
There's a japanese company with their product called "FR-chair carbon field" which weighs roughly the same (maybe 1 oz more), has a similar design, an insulated seat and looks sturdier
@navelaviator18
@navelaviator18 Ай бұрын
I've tried the whole sitting-on-the-ground thing using a foam pad while leaning against our packs and It isn't for either me or my wife. After hiking all day, sitting on the ground sucks and it sucks even more if you're constantly having to get up and down... especially if you have stuff in your hands (like food). Trying to cook was fairly difficult too. Furthermore, If the ground is wet, muddy or cold it's really unpleasant. I also found that I'd always put my hand on the dirty ground in order to push myself while getting up. Not a problem if your hands are already dirty but if you want to keep your hands clean (for cooking and eating), getting up with sore/stiff legs is nearly impossible. I'll stick with my chair zero and the extra 10oz. Its definitely not perfect but there's something about being off the ground that just makes you feel a little more human.
@southcoastoutdoorsuk6301
@southcoastoutdoorsuk6301 Ай бұрын
Not a chair and $90 you must be kidding ! Robens geographic stool is 260g $20 and your off ground at least
@navelaviator18
@navelaviator18 Ай бұрын
@@southcoastoutdoorsuk6301 That stool has no back. I'll pass. We want something with a back. Yes the chair zero is expensive but so is 80% of backpacking stuff.
@jamesbramlett5407
@jamesbramlett5407 Ай бұрын
cool idea, but I need the elevation the others provide. It's neat for being inside a tent tho.
@Vanjack964
@Vanjack964 Ай бұрын
Shawn did a great job for ultralight backpackers. Not for everyone, but well designed chair. I’d love to try it.
@scotbotvideos
@scotbotvideos Ай бұрын
It's not a chair. It's a backrest. And these already exist.
@alexisphilip
@alexisphilip Ай бұрын
Best of luck to Shawn. A carbon structure backrest is quite innovative, you'll find some clients! But you guys should have shown its use inside a tent, it would have made that product shine.
@galinswigart
@galinswigart Ай бұрын
This guy needs to make an alternate version and market it to hunters. Some variation of this design could be really good for turkey hunters.
@mattsailor4966
@mattsailor4966 Ай бұрын
Came here to say the same thing, first thing I thought of was turkey hunting.
@KB-ce7gf
@KB-ce7gf Ай бұрын
I just find it funny that at 10:00 that he is sitting in a chair. Not his chair, a different chair. I would think that if he liked it so much, he would be sitting in his own chair.
@Lumberperson
@Lumberperson Ай бұрын
He couldn’t sit in his chair because Dan was sitting in it
@RoseAnneLivao
@RoseAnneLivao 13 күн бұрын
I love how compact and functional it looks. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it, Dan! 👌
@roncterry
@roncterry Ай бұрын
This combined with a Z Seat, which I’m already carrying would be nice combination. What I really am missing with just a Z Seat is the back rest.
@seanparsons8987
@seanparsons8987 Ай бұрын
Designers/fabricators trying to make their ideas real should always be cheered. This looks like a prototype and has been done before. Kifaru made a shooting pad/rifle rest that looks like a polished version of this chair. Thermarest made a sleeve for their air mattress that had a pocket for four tent pole sections and a couple of fastex buckles with webbing. Inflating the mattress with the poles in the side pockets and some origami made a ground seat with padding. I think i could save the 90 dollars and make this same thing from a broken tent pole.
@Reapus
@Reapus Ай бұрын
Doesn’t Litesmith already make this?
@nazzelnut
@nazzelnut Ай бұрын
Something very close to this, yes
@MikeycatOutdoors
@MikeycatOutdoors Ай бұрын
This reminds me of a smaller version of an aluminum ground lounger that I picked up on clearance years ago. The ground pad on it was about 5ft long and the pole system was more like a helinox. I think its about 2 pounds. I used to lounge on it in my smaller hot tent shelters to use as a low height chair and ground pad. Something like this could be useful for people with apnea or reflux who need to sleep slightly elevated in their tent.
@x-land-camp415
@x-land-camp415 Ай бұрын
What about the Therm-a-Rest Trekker Chair? I love it.
@nickbnash
@nickbnash Ай бұрын
Appreciate you using your channel to give interesting ideas some coverage. Thanks for all the great videos!
@TheRealStove
@TheRealStove Ай бұрын
I can see how it wouldn’t be for everyone, but I really love this idea! I have circulation issues in my legs and always carry an insulated pad anyway, so being able to stretch my legs out all the way like that would be really nice. Sure, I like the thought of being off the ground, but this honestly looks more comfortable than my Chair Zero or even my original Nemo Moonlite. I’ll for sure be buying one as soon as the side to side sway issue is worked out a bit better.
@axelw273
@axelw273 Ай бұрын
Very interesting!!! I want to see the padded version for us “older” people…
@eddiekane1202
@eddiekane1202 Ай бұрын
Aside from back support it’s essentially a sitting pad
@quickerchick
@quickerchick Ай бұрын
There is already a fabric version of a lounger that you can put your sleeping pad into. I think it is Sea to Summit. Very comfortable as you can also adjust the sides to bring up or down. lol. We are giving this guy so many ideas for Mark 2.
@elisebrown5157
@elisebrown5157 Ай бұрын
Interesting concept. For me, personally, I wouldn't use it in lieu of a chair around the campfire. If I want that experience, I'd want to be off the ground. I even wish there was a higher chair available for the weight of the Helinox zero. And I think it's a bit complex of a set-up to just whip out and sit down for a quick break while hiking - I'd just use a sit pad. However, I do think I'd use it inside my tent for having morning coffee, for cooking in the vestibule, or for just playing games or otherwise killing time on a rainy day. That's where having a ground chair is a benefit. My only worry would be that the base (back fabric) of the chair displaced enough of the weight so I didn't have two carbon fiber poles driving into the floor of my tent. A suggestion for a future mod might be to make the seat and back support fabric double layers with an opening so you could insert a small inflatable pad or your wadded up jacket or something. It might also be interesting to create a way it could integrate with one of the small lightweight stools on the market today so you could offer back support. Would it be feasible to use DFC or Ultra as the fabric? I realize it would cost quite a bit more, but that might be attractive anyway to those looking to shed an extra ounce. I haven't sat in it, so I don't know whether the extra sideways mobility Dan and Emmet experienced would feel insecure or not. But it might be a plus when using inside a tent - you could easily twist around to grab things, especially while cooking.
@googlepipes6323
@googlepipes6323 Ай бұрын
I like this! There is a lot to be said for sitting on the ground next to a small fire. You have pretty much solved the problems of most backrests like this: stability and ease of use. I have a folding rigid DIY I use all the time at my backyard fire pit, and on very short hikes where bulk and 18 oz is not an issue.
@kristisartori8476
@kristisartori8476 Ай бұрын
Thermarest makes a similar product, but it's designed to have your sleeping pad put in it so that you DO get cushion, off the cold ground, etc. It's about $50-70 depending on when you buy it, 13oz (so between this and the Chair Zero), but your comfort and warmth would be much higher.
@kristisartori8476
@kristisartori8476 Ай бұрын
It's called the Trekker chair kit, for people who are interested.
@tc2156
@tc2156 Ай бұрын
I have the older version of the Thermarest pad chair from 17-18 years. I believe mine is 10oz. I haven’t used it in years since it was made for a thinner 1.5-2” thick pad. But I did enjoy using it back in the day.
@JoanneCutts
@JoanneCutts Ай бұрын
Trekker chair has been a game changer
@warrenansell5901
@warrenansell5901 Ай бұрын
Would love an off ground version for a few more ounces
@joaquimrasi6822
@joaquimrasi6822 Ай бұрын
This is a redesign of a product that has been in hiking. Good on him bringing his design to market. Greetings from Norway
@Bill_tyler
@Bill_tyler Ай бұрын
That knife is SICK! I LOVE the 3D topo scales
@petercruz1993
@petercruz1993 Ай бұрын
One thing that’s good about this thing is that it’s easier to get off the ground than it is to get off of a really low chair. This is because you can put your hands on the ground to help stand up. And tbh it’s not a bad idea as it’s tiny and allows you to sit down. That said $90 is way too much. The aluminium one is probably the move
@flynnstone3580
@flynnstone3580 Ай бұрын
Hey Dan, watched the Epic Trails episode with you and Eric crossing the Grand Canyon. When you got those pains in your chest, the same exact thing happened to me a least 6 times. The off and on again sharp pain in the chest, I had it. But turns out it wasn't what your doctor said. It turned out to be excessive gas not coming out and backing up into my chest. The doctor told me to take a teaspoon of Apple Cider vinegar every morning on an empty stomach at least 15 minutes before you eat anything. It's been working, now I have gas coming out like normal and haven't had any problems since. I don't know if you have any stomach problems like me back this works.👍👍
@brandenlogan2523
@brandenlogan2523 Ай бұрын
I could see setting this up in my tent and using it
@andreameigs1261
@andreameigs1261 Ай бұрын
Here's my feedback from the perspective of a camper, backpacker, and back-pain sufferer and floor-sitter: The Easton struts are UL, but the carry sack defeats the purpose of having them for a UL backpacker. There's kinda no point in having carbon fiber poles if the sack is going to weigh a bunch, if that makes sense. I could use a different sack, but I actually really like that idea- just not for backpacking or camping where I do not want to sit on the ground for long periods because of ticks and other bugs. When I saw the strap though, I said, "BEACH" and also thought of when I watched my cousin's kid's soccer practice. It's small enough to leave in the car. I just don't want to pay 90 bucks for a beach or soccer practice chair. So, I'm not sure backpackers are the right market, but if the poles were aluminum and the cost was 45 and marketed as a beach chair or to soccer moms or sports fans or something, it could do well there. A couple people said it would be nice if you're stuck in a tent. For air mattress users, they'd probably use the air mattress sling chair, but for those UL folks using a closed cell foam mat, YES. However, those people aren't going to want to use that sack, so they are going to have to spend more money to make or buy a UL DCF sack, and that's going to suck for them. SO, maybe 2 versions: soccer mom version with aluminum and the sack how it is, and UL version with carbon fiber and a much lighter stuff sack. However- if people are using closed cell foam because it is light, they may not want a chair, even if it's only 8 oz, but they may be using closed cell foam because it's a good budget option, in which case, they probably don't want to spend 90 bucks on a carbon fiber chair. So I think Dan is right about just using aluminum poles and cutting the price.
@semo7566
@semo7566 Ай бұрын
Litesmith Quickback chair with similar design has been available for many years. It's lighter than this one, cheaper, and it's likely just as uncomfortable (i own Litesmith and rarely use it)
@bluecostas
@bluecostas Ай бұрын
if it came with a removeable seat pad, or sleeve to add your own this would be pretty cool
@CheapTrekkingDotCom
@CheapTrekkingDotCom Ай бұрын
One of my chairs uses trekking poles, has a cushion, is height adjustable to support head and shoulders, won't fall over when you stand up, and is easy to make yourself. My other chair carries your gear and cuts your firewood.
@tobyandI
@tobyandI 12 күн бұрын
Woof! “Blessings!” 🐩 🐶
@L4mTr4n
@L4mTr4n Ай бұрын
Didn’t realize sitting on the floor is considered a chair.
@tonywillingham8109
@tonywillingham8109 Ай бұрын
The Mountainsmith Sling Back Chair is the same thing but uses your trekking poles. If you have trees, you cannot beat the comfort or weight of the hammock chair.
@sunny41802
@sunny41802 Ай бұрын
I’m interested, when is it?
@auntieestablishmentvintage7460
@auntieestablishmentvintage7460 Ай бұрын
This is like the thermorest chair. I use mine without the Thermorest pad inside. Super comfy, super light, but yeah you sit on the ground. Still it has it's place in our camping gear!
@pacificrider08
@pacificrider08 Ай бұрын
Not a chair, it's a backrest. Wait, I just thought of this, are you guys trolling us? This better be a joke. Can't wait for the inflatable chair next.
@carri113
@carri113 Ай бұрын
I think it seems awesome!! You are saving $60 and a half a pound weight penalty!! I love it!!
@jasonb2775
@jasonb2775 Ай бұрын
This chair is great for those seeking lightest weight yet desire some comforts still. Winter camping with more time spent in the tent would be the perfect situation for this chair. Especially since one needs heavier equipment for the colder weather, this would compensate for that extra weight. However summer time hiking I like to be off the ground.
@MarkoEsp
@MarkoEsp Ай бұрын
I can see this taking OFF in Japan where backrests are super common for indoor lounging and kotatsu.
@77grintchkick
@77grintchkick Ай бұрын
I like the idea of close to the ground, smoke from the fire won’t make me move every minute.
@jakexanthony
@jakexanthony Ай бұрын
2 recommendations, make different locking points for the back rest so u can change the pitch and have different widths. Ideally common sleeping pad widths so it can be used with them.
@ariellea7617
@ariellea7617 13 күн бұрын
Here is an advantage that no one talks about: you can use this chair inside your tent. Really useful. Most chairs are just too high for most tents. This product is perfect for me, especially since I'm used to sitting on the ground all the time anyway.
@ant2400
@ant2400 Ай бұрын
I agree with some of the first comments, I want a chair I can sit in the tent. Nice idea... I am in.
@pontussundkvist6983
@pontussundkvist6983 Ай бұрын
I don't hike with a chair, but if I did, I would pick one that was a bit heavier and got me off the ground. This is really neat though
@fightforfreedomneversurren8610
@fightforfreedomneversurren8610 Ай бұрын
This would be a good backrest for when I’m watching a field while hunting deer and elk but backpacking I would rather have something with legs on it.
@AlexPaxton-o8k
@AlexPaxton-o8k Ай бұрын
hi Dan, living here in Luxembourg, miles away from the Grand Canyon and never yet managed to get there even though I worked for Amz. for 12 years in the UK and Europe. Came to the US a few times, mostly SEA but having left some years ago to get some more time to do the things I love can not see when I will get chance to walk the GC any time soon. Love the channel, haven't subscribed until recently (but this was to protect you as you are the cause of all these random bits of kit arriving on our doorstep and if my wife knew the spend was because of you she would have paid you a visit by now 🙂), If I get get to see the Canyon with the purchase of one of these knives it would be great and tide me over until i can see the real thing. Love the vibe on the channel, and likely your ora is what is going to get me back into trails and tents along with my other scuba diving passion.. very best, AP
@chrisfavorin1107
@chrisfavorin1107 Ай бұрын
I have a ruck with a frame, Mystery Ranch Metcalf. I use it for hiking and hunting because of the meat shelf but, I take my hiking poles and cross them in the center with the Wiser Precision Qwick Stix and achieve the same thing, outside the sitting area, I have a seat pad from Walmart that I take out on hunts. Mind you i already take all this stuff with me so I am not adding the weight of the chair. Its a good idea but I can save that 90 bucks for other things I would end up using more of.
@fatbikejamie
@fatbikejamie Ай бұрын
Something like this has been around for a long time - the Litesmith QwikBack™ UL Chair. Except that product weighs only 2.65 oz (75 g) or way less than HALF of this product.
@KuntryRD
@KuntryRD Ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. I have the Litesmith chair. Have used it for several years.
@JongaLife
@JongaLife Ай бұрын
I could see myself carrying that in Florida, I sit down all the time on the sand and that support seems great... the price, a bit challenging, $50 seems about right
@chrisdaugherty9030
@chrisdaugherty9030 Ай бұрын
Looks like it would work ok for a quick set up. Is light weight. If you don’t like carrying a chair I’ve seen similar using small tarp and trekking poles that work just as well
@aszalai86
@aszalai86 Ай бұрын
Why does this feel like a Shark Tank episode? XD
@sphericalcow5258
@sphericalcow5258 Ай бұрын
Also there is a chair I do not see in the background and I know its not everyone's cup of tea but it is unique and fits this category the Grand Trunk Monarch picked mine up on sale for $69 great little Ultralite chair that does not break the bank.
@phasmata3813
@phasmata3813 Ай бұрын
Alite Monarch (now owned by Grand Trunk, but I have an old and a new one, and GT doesn't appear to have compromised the quality at all) is my favorite chair, and it seems to get ignored all the time.
@nickfaw2840
@nickfaw2840 Ай бұрын
That's pretty great for a thru-hiker
@drummindreams
@drummindreams Ай бұрын
Love the idea but I would need some cushion for my booty after a long day on the trail sitting on the ground wouldn’t be ideal especially in snow or rainy ground conditions
@awbrown327
@awbrown327 Ай бұрын
Hope this wasn't said elsewhere in the comments, but they should try to come up with a way that a set of trekking poles could be converted into this chair. Most poles come in segments anyway. The back of the chair could come from the top 3rd of a trekking pole and the cris-crossing support poles could come from the middle or bottom 3rd of a trekking pole. If carbon fiber is the main cost, seems like you could sell a chair AND a set of trekking poles for not that much more money. Plus you'd save weight on the redundancy of poles.
@That1Brandon
@That1Brandon Ай бұрын
It’s definitely a niche product for the hardcore ultralighters that may experience back pain just sitting on the ground
@paulcoupland4363
@paulcoupland4363 Ай бұрын
It's not a chair, it's a back rest for when sitting on the floor, but that would be a near impossible marketing sell so I can see why he's gone with "on ground chair" but as someone who struggles with back ache I like this concept. Edit: As mentioned by others, this type of design is already out there by Field Record (Japan) and Litesmith, although the backrest looks very narrow on the Litesmith one.
@rungavagairun
@rungavagairun Ай бұрын
Hammock. Better sleep. More comfortable chair. Don't have to get up from the ground whether you're exiting your bed to pee or getting up from sitting where you were eating your dinner.
@michaelbrohl1625
@michaelbrohl1625 Ай бұрын
If I'm gonna buy a camp chair, then I don't want to sit on the ground. I'll pass.
@russellhowells6314
@russellhowells6314 17 күн бұрын
Dan! Happy New Year! Do you have some favorite places for hiking and camping in Michigan? I'd like to explore that area this summer with my family. Thanks. Praying for a great 2025.
@alexheilman1035
@alexheilman1035 25 күн бұрын
Mountain smith makes something like this but you use your trekking poles and you can use change the angle of your poles to basically adjust the height of the back. And it cost $25
@pedroclaro7822
@pedroclaro7822 15 күн бұрын
Im with dan. Make it with Alu poles for a price reduction. Then include a sitpad sleeve on the bottom to keep pads in place. Swap the fabric to silpoly maybe on the back so it stretches just a tad. and pread out the back poles to reduce side swaying perhaps?
@RedDirtShooter
@RedDirtShooter Ай бұрын
I think the chair is cool for when distance backpacking is a factor and can't carry a legged chair.
@MotherMaples
@MotherMaples Ай бұрын
Would be great inside the tent ⛺️
@Talaria567
@Talaria567 Ай бұрын
Are you able to build in some type of foam seat like the Nemo sleeping pad as a pressure distribution seat? I’d imagine it wouldn’t add much weight and would increase comfort a fair amount.
@tomwheeler7816
@tomwheeler7816 Ай бұрын
looks like it could be a 1" or 2" wider it will make it more steady but i like it
@luapsivad4751
@luapsivad4751 Ай бұрын
Not sure if the price point of $90 matches the chair. I go my Helinox Zero on sale for another $10 more dollars and I'm off the ground.
@Browndog222
@Browndog222 16 күн бұрын
Just commenting because this is the most recent vid. I would love to see you review the Stone Glacier Grueman Down jacket. I know its branching into hunting gear, but i think the crossover for backpack hunters and backpackers is insanely close. Hunters also have to care much more about weight in the BC. The Grueman is 11 OZ with 5 OZ of down. Super unique, super warm from what i hear. But would love to get a review of it from someone who doesn't know hunting gear like hunters and is unbiased.
@johnnyolson258
@johnnyolson258 Ай бұрын
I'd like to see this compared against the same style chair where u use ur hiking poles as the back rest instead of tent poles
@jeromebullard6123
@jeromebullard6123 Ай бұрын
I don’t think the Nemo Moonlite will ever be beat. It’s worth every ounce.
@MrEvilWasp
@MrEvilWasp Ай бұрын
Maybe as a back rest in a small 1-2 person tent. But, even then would it be safe not to puncture my air mat? As a chair it's not a chair. It's also pretty expensive for what it is.
@m1sterpunch
@m1sterpunch Ай бұрын
this would make a great seat for a paddleboard.
@carolynhelm1392
@carolynhelm1392 Ай бұрын
Great for the beach
@grahamambridge2856
@grahamambridge2856 Ай бұрын
Think i'd prefer to lean against a tree on a bin liner.
@martinerhard8447
@martinerhard8447 Ай бұрын
How does it perform on soft ground? The Helinox needs a groundsheet
@martinerhard8447
@martinerhard8447 Ай бұрын
Also can you use it inside the tent?
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