This New Electric Car Has No Battery and Just Killed Tesla’s Future

Electric car review. This New Electric Car Has No Battery and Shakes Up the Entire Car Industry, DIY and car review Scotty Kilmer. Electric car review. New Nio electric car has no battery. Buying a new electric car. Buying a used electric car. Should I buy an electric car. How much does it cost to run an electric car. The truth about owning an electric car. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 56 years.
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[@scottykilmer]

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[@jameswise8870]

Where does any government get subsidy money? From you, the taxpayers! Which means we are paying out the wazoo for EVs.😢

[@Joe-for-You]

@@jameswise8870 James, you've been below the poverty line for decades. You don't pay any taxes.

[@labradoodle5097]

I saw this a few weeks ago. I wondered why the USA automakers didn't think about this. Then I remembered they are the big 3 and don't have to. My next vehicle, if I can ever afford one, will not be from the big 3.

[@Joe-for-You]

@@labradoodle5097 Don't worry - your next vehicle will be a 1975 Corolla.

[@Commenter_42]

This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. All those batteries need to be stored relatively close together. How expensive would that facility have to be to prevent a chain reaction fire of all the batteries? How long would it take before they all finished burning once ignited? How many extra batteries would you need to prevent supply shortages from the expected number of battery swap station fires?

[@rrabun]

Well it definitely has a battery

[@DrPhillGoode]

Actually, you buy the car without the battery. You rent the battery. This is a much more logical concept than the regular car/battery deal. Imagine pulling into a station and spending 10 minutes to swap batteries instead of 30 - 60 minutes to charge your car. The main downside would be getting enough stations.

[@markandash2009]

Still has a battery, it has 2 as there’s a 12v too!

[@Jarrettfan]

make the battery smaller just enough to run 300 miles. makes it lighter and less scary on explosions. Quicker (for Nio) to charge too.

[@ashzole]

@@DrPhillGoodeduhhh this has been done in china and us a success. hot swappable batteries like hot swabbable hard drives do you always believe this guy talking on the video. he is biased you don’t think tesla is well aware of swappable battery. psst tesla is primed for swappable system. look how many charging stations.. duhhhh

[@NothingButSilicone]

@@ashzoleCan a 3rd party swap Tesla batteries in 10 minutes?

[@freetolook3727]

Back in 2012, we rented a Toyota Camry hybrid. It kept up with highway traffic, did not need to be plugged in and got 43 mpg even while sitting in traffic jams. Every time you stepped on the brake, the battery got recharged through regenerative braking. The four cylinder gas engine didn't start until you went over 40 mph which means that while driving around town you didn't use any gas.

[@ImprobableWizard]

Worst Tesla does 120 MPGe

[@AlchymicusWizardikus]

My 21 Camry SE regularly gets 44-45 mpg highway.

[@freetolook3727]

I take it the 2021 Toyota Camry is a hybrid?

[@AlchymicusWizardikus]

@@freetolook3727 nope, just the 8 speed with the new aerodynamics and vvti.

[@davidviner4932]

I have 2 diesel convertibles, Audi and BMW, the Audi averages 60MPG and the BMW 53MPG and both pull hard when you want them to

[@generaclesdey4622]

Somebody has to pay for the Batteries & the facilities & their staff & the owners who need to prosper. You, the customer funds all this - it's NOT free!. The battery you get will always be USED, and in some cases, will not meet the expected distance coverage. The battery may have been abused in a previous can, and may become hazardous!

[@BlurryFace-zz2ro]

I'm not a huge fan of Elon Musk but I do get tired of KZbin videos that say "Toyota just killed Tesla" or "Tesla just killed so and so" or "This new electric motor is a game-changer" and you get there and its just theory.

[@royt467]

The entire car industry must be so burnt from being SHOCKED almost every other day(according to Scotty)

[@ryanorionwotanson4568]

😂🤣

[@youxkio]

Sure China is more advanced than the US in EV technology. The US will be sailing behind and become a second country worried about its gender games and dealing with Karens and brute traffic police.

[@zeeevans900]

Lol… you read my mind

[@FJB-MAGA]

They still can't recover from being SHOCKED simultaneously by half a dozen manufacturers in a single day when they officially unveiled the water engine. I need a couple of days myself to recover after watching a few videos by Scotty.

[@XenonJohnD]

Nio have been doing this for years. Not exactly new really.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Battery swapping is unnecessary and extremely expensive with thousands of batteries hanging around waiting to be swapped. That is a huge cost. Furthermore it is not at all good for freedom of car design.

[@elgar6743]

Each station does NOT, "...have to store hundreds of batteries', SHEESH...20 batteries, or so, are plenty. Remember, the discharged battery collected WILL GET RECHARGED in less than 1 hour....a 3 minute battery swap means that each station can 'handle' some 20 swaps per hour....ERGO, each station only has to keep some 20 batteries in rotation. BASIC math + BASIC logic was not applied to that statement, clearly.

[@theequaliser420]

There is no way they will be able to expand worldwide with all these swap stations, people in the west won't buy Chinese cars

[@fez877]

Easy fix. Just some data to show which timing have higher traffic and enable fast charging to the stored battery to recharge within mins and ready for the swap.

[@inasuma8180]

why so hostile over it

[@johnmiceli8580]

I’ve always been a big fan of battery swapping I thought this was the way to go. And it’s even more attractive the fact that you don’t have to buy a battery. I think the ideal situation would be if you could design a battery pack standard, that fits any car maker

[@videoviewer2008]

The cost implications of a standard module that could be competitively built is huge. Eliminate the requirements for proprietary packs. Imagine, what if emergency services could drop the battery and pull off the chassis during Rescue. Huge improvement.

[@petermadany2779]

The trend is flashlights is going the other direction, much more focused on adding USB-C charging ports for batteries sealed inside compared to using standard size batteries. For those flashlights that still have replaceable batteries, the types and sizes of batteries is proliferating.

[@Roman-re1yg]

Thats exactly why in the past week NIO has partnered with Changan and Geely ( Volvo/Polstar/Lotus) just to name a few. Companies are starting to line up to use NIO's swap network. China is pushing to standardize battery swapping.

[@dr123hall]

Swap batteries concept was my provisional patent application in 1998. This is still, in my opinion, a superior power replacement concept. The big advantage besides time savings, is reducing power line dependence.

[@johnmiceli8580]

@@videoviewer2008 this could be easily overcome if the government funded a program creating a national standard battery pack.

[@ThomasKing19933]

Screw EVs. Who's with me?

[@John-209]

People with low IQ

[@laurieannerodriguez5946]

EV's can go screw themselves.

[@brandonruggles1715]

YES I WILL NOT COMPLY. Viva liberty

[@MikeJones-rk1un]

They are good on the golf course.

[@pjsneeringer5942]

Hybrids

[@generaclesdey4622]

The Battery swapping started in ISRAEL in 2007, by a company named Better Place. The car was $10K cheaper you didn't need to buy the battery. The Battery was swappable, took about 10 minutes to swap, and you didn't have to worry about battery life. The company went BANKRUPT and buyers were stuck with USELESS CARS, which were repossed!

[@Marco_My_Words]

Battery swapping is a potential solution for EV cars to strengthen their market presence and increase sales. However, it is prohibitively expensive and could bankrupt any company that attempts it. This is likely why Elon Musk hasn't pursued it. Consequently, EVs generally seem inferior to gas-powered cars. I admire Elon Musk and would like to support him by buying a Tesla, but I don't believe EVs have a bright future if someone doesn't come up with a solution. The charging times are too long. Even though I don't drive too much most of the time, when I do want to travel long distances, I can't because I would have to wait for an hour or two for the car to recharge on the way. And if I do use the super-fast charging option, it would degrade the battery life, requiring an expensive replacement too soon. I hope Musk can make EVs more appealing.

[@generaclesdey4622]

@@Marco_My_Words I agree

[@Born_Stellar]

there were EV's in the late 1800's and they had battery swaps back then as well. its an old, old idea.

[@iLoveBoysandBerries]

Yawn

[@user-nl1pg1pf5i]

I am waiting to buy a NIO or two whenever they are available in the USA. Why, I want to be part of that extraordinary user experience, amongst owning an amazing product full of technology and NO range anxiety. While most EVs depreciates, NIO EVs appreciates because of their battery swap model, of which is truly a REAL GAME CHANGER in the electric vehicle industry. GAMEOVER!!!

[@jo4285]

If we had battery swaps available at designated areas for road trips then that would be a win for me to buy an EV vehicle.

[@chuckasualty]

I used to drive an electric forklift at work and I found out quickly that older batteries that show a full charge on the charger only last about an hour. I hope someone is monitoring the health of these batteries because I’d hate to swap out a battery and have it die out after only an hour of driving down the road.

[@videoviewer2008]

Modern battery management can track total power usage and predict performance. Especially with some modern machine learning and statistical data processing it should be reasonably

[@amgineco]

It WILL.. It's CHINESE..

[@TheNigerianPrince404]

lol@@amgineco

[@steve251157]

Nio carries out a health check on all swapped batteries, they also monitor the batteries in all Nio cars, (when charged, how many KW used, how many KM driven, any hard braking/acceleration, max speed and avg speed per journey etc…..) the batteries are refurbished (individual cell pack changed out, unserviceable batteries are recycled. Tech on modern EVs is far ahead of the old lead/acid technology used on fork lift trucks. Even during the swap out they check metrics, a guy in our Nio chat group got a call as he left a swap station asking him to go to a service shop as one retaining bolt had stripped threads.

[@chuckasualty]

@@steve251157 good to know😊 the forklift did use lead acid bateries

[@randallnelson6695]

They did battery swaps with the first electric cars way back in 1905 or so. It took about 10 to 15 minutes. But gas became cheaper that electric so the electric cars back then never caught on. 😃

[@amarbinay6654]

Yup battery change

[@Boom38119]

The average person doesn't even know that we been had electric vehicles. It wasn't that gas was cheaper it was all about control and monopoly of oil which is why we're here today. The elites didn't want electric vehicles b/c hey cant profit off of it like they can with oil.

[@neotek303]

That and BigOil made sure electric failed... just like JP Morgan torpedoing Tesla's wireless electricity towers.

[@PeterWilliamson-nn9et]

In California they had an electric street car that stretched from the N to the S of Calif, Rockefeller bought the politicians , tore out the track and replaced them with diesel buses.

[@jimiMachendrix]

It was Rockefeller that stopped development of the original E cars with his political bullying.

[@eagiuliani9357]

Fun Fact Scotty and for those who wait for Scotty to tell them things: Chicago and New York City had electric vehicle charging stations in the early 1900s for the early electric cars. Then a Cadillac engineer invented the key start electric starter for gasoline cars (no more need to crank the car to start it) and gasoline car sales took off. Back then there were over 100 brands of electric cars in the USA. Ford even had an electric car when he first started out as an industrialist.

[@chrisanderson7820]

This is just like the CHEP pallets model, where the cost & maintenance of batteries is defrayed across the whole of civilisation. You don't have to worry about your battery suddenly dying or only holding half charge or getting a dud battery just like with CHEP as a society we don't have to worry about one wooden pallet getting broken. It might seem weird at first but when you get into truly monster scales of efficiency it removes a massive amount of friction for the user.

[@dava00007]

I have always wondered why they did not have electric cars where they offer "quick swap" to compensate for the long charge times and all the other battery problems. Logistics probably doesn't help, but this is nice to see someone is doing it.

[@icosthop9998]

They had a trial in California four years ago and I never called on.

[@Fokkerc1]

The more you plug and unplug something, the sooner loose connections and fires will occur.

[@arcanondrum6543]

Tesla was given millions in Taxpayer money to "develop battery swap". Like the customer deposits on the Cybertruck and the 2nd generation Tesla Roadster, Elon Musk just booked all those millions as "revenue" pumped up the Stock (like it was Doge Coin or Hyperloop) and cashed out his matured Stock Options.

[@Joe-for-You]

Why did you never call on?@@icosthop9998

[@Joe-for-You]

@@Fokkerc1 Experience with your fleshlight?

[@edwardanthony7283]

Good idea if there are enough stations close enough to avoid breakdowns & also if there are enough batteries to keep up with the swaps!

[@edwardanthony7283]

@@zippydastrange Interesting point

[@RichardFer01]

Nice work, they are able to prevent battery degredation this way. Also the newest battery technology can be applied this way.

[@jasonallemani3350]

i am sure the batteries are being charged and put back in another car. its not like throwing out those d's for another set.

[@Inferno45]

I need gasoline, i cant do electric.

[@OnWisconsin33]

Yeah. 15% degradation after 200,000 miles is a big problem. NOT.

[@yojimbo3681]

I still remember 20 years ago GM introduced the "skateboard" concept. Where you would only purchase the bottom chassis, including the battery pack and wheels, of the vehicle, and then you can swap out the top portion which included the seat arrangements, the hood, head lights, outer design, everything else. Interesting idea, would've loved to see that concept again.

[@DevRSVR]

I hadnt come across that myself but it certainly sounds like a radical idea and something that could work. Will look it up.

[@mnhsty]

Even had a choice of engines/motors, including turbine or fuel cell.

[@ItsMe-ic7on]

My dad retired there in January of 2000 never said anything to me about them even talking about it

[@mnhsty]

@@ItsMe-ic7on It’s a big company with a lot of programs. But I’ve seen one in a local car museum.

[@chrissmith2114]

Cars have been like that for a long time now, The underframe of a vehicle is the most difficult to design and build, this means the underframe is used across many models and just the passenger compartment changes. For instance the Golf and Audi A3, as well as maybe mid-sized Skoda / Seat will share the same underframe. A ford Focus and a Volvo V40 share the same underframe....

[@Semiam1]

That will work great up here in Minnesota after trying to swap out your battery with caked-on ice and salt 😂

[@Joe-for-You]

...and the incels trying to bugger you while you're working on the swap.

[@goldsmith001]

and at -15 below zero you will need to swap every 125 miles, oh that will work fine.

[@judge724]

I love these mini documentary videos Scotty, thanks!! I wish they could agree on one or a couple standardized batteries for all cars to swap! Bigger cars or trucks could use 2 or 3 of the standard ones!!

[@stephenwinter8892]

Will NEO come to north america it would definitely do well here in Canada greetings and thanks for the presentation happy new year 🎉🎉

[@alandeutsch9987]

it would but can't due to tariffs and hostile political environment

[@Marco_My_Words]

That's what I said from the very beginning. Only a few people will actually want to buy it because you either need to wait an unknown amount of time for your battery to charge or risk damaging your expensive battery with superfast charging adapters, which will still take a lot of time compared to just visiting a gas station and filling up your tank. So, the only viable option I might consider is if the battery is physically switched at a battery pack switching station, allowing you to leave in under five minutes. And those battery pack switching stations also need to be around every corner - at least one every few miles. Otherwise, you will need to drive who knows how long of a distance and use a lot of energy just to charge your car.

[@bertwinn2321]

Great video but still think the hybrid is the way to go. Self charging cars that never need plugged in. :)

[@Joe-for-You]

You could use an ESL class.

[@bradlewis3719]

In 1983, I learned Taylor-Dunn, a maker of electric utility vehicles for over 70 years, had implemented battery swapping in some of its models so they could be used around the clock. I have often thought this might be a possible solution for the EV auto market. Great job of presenting the pros and current cons of this approach.

[@johnfranchina84]

To best of my knowledge, Taylor-Dunn EVs use lead acid batteries and not 1000’s of Li small batteries ie 1000’s of dangerous weak links “soldered” together.

[@flouisbailey]

Do they explode as well?

[@robertkubrick3738]

Buy some NIO stock then. it's $5.79 because they are going out of business.

[@chrissmith2114]

I would not be happy to buy a new EV and then swap the battery for a much older one of unknown history.......

[@chrissmith2114]

@@johnfranchina84 Average EV battery has about 7000 small cells, that means 14,000 electrical connections - what could possibly go wrong ?

[@luckyrYtArd]

Changing a battery is so much easier than making a battery with more efficient lighter and faster on charging. Think about this, 10 years ago phones, laptops, gaming devices etc all have interchangeable batteries and now they are all gone.

[@lcfflc3887]

Nahh, the permanent battery also makes sense, it's like fulling up your gas thank, they need to bring it down to at least 20mn for another 350 miles

[@Redact63Lluks]

You don't throw away power tools cause the one battery it came with doesn't charge anymore.... Why they thought cars should work that way is beyond me.

[@presinald]

Because if anyone buys into it then they get to possibly sell you another car....that's pretty much it more profit less problem-solving for them

[@iamthecheese2737]

Not exactly a comparative statement. You can get new batteries for your EV if the battery goes bad (or even have bad cells replaced), so no, your EV is not junk because the battery died. On the other hand say your tool battery dies but the tool is fine. You toss the battery and go get a new battery only to find out a new battery is same as a new tool and battery combo pack, or even just slightly cheaper $10-$20 less. Would you still just buy the battery and take it home to your used and quite possibly abused tool that might break anyway in a few months? Or opt to get the new warrantied tool and battery combo for the same price or just a few dollars more? Of course like with anything, products are always being redesigned and changed so there's no guarantee that new battery will work with your old tool and charger, meaning your have to upgrade and replace anyway. Or even better. The old battery design is still available but again the costs is on par with the newer designed battery\tool combo? It's called planned obsolescence, and every manufacturer does it from EVs to tools.

[@hoffinger]

Comparing tool batteries to car batteries is not a good analogy. Car batteries are designed to last decades. CATL now offers a 15 year warranty or one million miles. Swapping is only necessary for fast charging not longevity.

[@hoffinger]

The 4680 is made in Reno. It is 20% better not what you claimed.

[@joejones6968]

@@iamthecheese2737 , Very well said. You sir are a Gentlemen and scholar!!

[@musicsavage707]

Another huge question that he didn't discuss in this video but he does in others on EVs is environmental implications of battery manufacture and disposal after they reach end of life. Great video Scotty, you're one of the best contributors on YT!

[@hxtr-DH]

Lithium batteries can be recycled so no problem.

[@Scott-cc4wl]

NIO's battery swap system, intentionally monitors all of the batteries, conveniently removing batteries that need to be recycled. In that case NIO batteries are guaranteed to be recycled, unlike brands, whose batteries will remain static in those used cars. And it costs a lot of money to remove or change out non swappable batteries.

[@musicsavage707]

YT keeps removing my reply but quick search confirmed they are recyclable; however, at an extremely high cost and currently only 4% are being recycled

[@Scott-cc4wl]

@@musicsavage707 Thanks, It appears obvious that battery swap stations make recycling EV batteries cost less than any other EVs, because the battery is easily monitored and removed. Also, China will soon implement battery inspection requirements for older EVs, requiring the removal of batteries that don't pass. I would not want to be a person who has to have a battery replaced without battery swap. A NIO owner can avoid severe inspection woes, by merely swapping out that bad battery in 3 minutes.

[@drwisdom1]

This video is about battery swapping even though you want a discussion about carbon emissions and battery making/disposal.

[@OTPulse]

A lot of people seem to not understand the cars can still be home charged as well as charging stations, the battery swap is in addition to other options. You only have one main option for diesel/petrol/Gas and that is a station pump. These swap stations will mainly be used by taxis, delivery service providers and the occasional road trip. Ones in cities i would hope have more swap bays and packs to deal with ppl with no home charger capabilities.

[@wrightnash]

The only challenge with a massive rollout of EVs is charging infrastructure

[@jungojerry1658]

Battery swapping sounds like a great idea - IF - they have enough stations all around the country. But in whole, I'm still not sold on EV's in general.

[@Jkl62200]

Come to China or Norway. You might solidify your position.

[@surferdude4487]

Three things I don't like about battery swapping: 1) The potential of serious damage to your vehicle if some minimum wage employee botches the job. 2) You don't own the battery, meaning that you pay a subscription fee to use the vehicle that you supposedly payed for. 3) If the business that does the swapping decides to no longer support your vehicle or goes out of business, you now own a brick. Even if Tesla disappeared today (slightly more likely than me winning the lottary because I son'don't waste my money on tickets) you could still charge your car at home or any outlet. IMO, battery swapping is just one more way for the company that sold you the car to keep on proffiting from you as long as you drive.

[@Jkl62200]

@@surferdude4487 1) I think it's fully automated with the staff just pushing a button or two 2)in fact letting them maintain the battery is better, no? The operational parameters of the batteries would be presumably more optimal, especially as your EV gets older or more kms in it.

[@surferdude4487]

@@Jkl62200 I fully expect the newest generation of Tesla batteries to last about a million miles. In the mean-time, Neo owners will be paying a subxcription fee to use their own cars. Any advantage you think you might gain by renting your battery is based on FUD that BEV batteries last only 10 k miles and have to be replaced at a cost of $23k. The fact is that unless you damage your battery, it will last longer than your car.

[@OTPulse]

​@surferdude4487 they can also be charged at stations and at home. How do you drive the EV out of the swap station without a battery? You didn't think that one through much. The damage potential, sure valid concern but it not regular cars are immune to damage. As for the subscription, I would hope it's an optional service with various plans for how often you can battery swap +charge for the new battery. Cheaper plans might only allow 15 swaps a month at say $20sub monthly $40 battey swap, higher plans offer more swaps at cheaper swap cost. But how ever they do the swaps, it better than we got now.

[@3guys1girlandfetus]

Nio is getting new partners for battery swapping standard so far they have 2 with another 3-4 being anoounced soon possibly Mercedes and Porsche

[@KlHO-nx1eh]

Just like everything Free for the every Paid when the tax/profit when fully controlled by Gov/businese partnerships

[@munzurharck368]

This is the best solution. The problem is all those car manufacturers that are against that. Nio really is great. That is the only way I would ever buy an EV!

[@ackerrj]

Renting the battery as a service is a great idea. Issues: 1. Cost. 2. Warranty, do they maintain them well? 3. What if you get a bad one? 4. Who is liable if you have a battery fire? 5. Who is liable if you damage one from road debris? Lots of questions.

[@Roman-re1yg]

In the past week 2 of the biggest Chinese car manufactures have partnered with NIO for use of their swapping tech going forward. Some of these brands are Geely/Volvo/Polstar/Lotus and many more. NIO is in talks with 2-3 more companies right now. Swapping along with super charging together is the future. Swapping is just another option and the benefits go way beyond just replenishing the pack. Every NIO owner will have the ability to get the latest battery technology in their 5/7/10 year old car with a 2-3 minute battery swap. If you want an upgraded battery with ANY other brand you will have to purchase a new car. China is standardizing battery swapping and NIO has the tech to do it. If I had the choice to purchase a car that can only charge or one that can charge and or swap, its a no brainer. NIO will be a global monster company. Thanks for the video!

[@bosskey23]

NIO will have trouble selling in the US. Since US and China relations are going sour and China will basically subsidize/dump those cars in the US market.

[@robertkubrick3738]

Is that why NIO stock price has DROPPED from $7 to $5.79 USD? Because they got help?

[@jeffreyrudolph5061]

Solves many problems. The biggest is resale .

[@pcdeflopes]

"If you want an upgraded battery with ANY other brand you will have to purchase a new car." not true: I upgraded from a 85 kWh battery to a 90 kWh battery and did not have to buy a new car

[@Roman-re1yg]

@@pcdeflopes haha ok but what did you pay? And did it happen in 3 minutes? And can you do it again in 5 years at no cost other than a monthly subscription fee??

[@miltonsosa8732]

Nio, will be the best company on EVs. Thanks for the video Scotty!

[@robertkubrick3738]

NIO is going out of business, stock price fell from $7 to $5.79 in a couple weeks.

[@Infinityfields]

I have had a PlugIn Prius for the past 9 years, it has been great at reducing my cost for fueling a vehicle. I have wanted to switch to full electric but have not done because I can’t spend hours charging a battery when I’m traveling across country! There was a person doing research about making batteries swap out like gallons of milk. The idea was to make batteries in cubes the size of a gallon jug of milk and as the batteries were drained you pull in to the station and pull out the depleted batteries and exchange them for fully charged batteries taking little more than 5 to 10 minutes! The idea is every car, truck, or van would have the same battery format. Nio has possibly seen this study and decided to implement it in their electric cars. Now if someone decided to implement this in American electric vehicles I would gladly switch as long as it was financially viable, which brings me to my other reason for not buying EV car…. Price!! I bought my 2012 PlugIn Prius used with 18,760 miles on it in 2014 for $15,000 and it has saved me thousands of dollars in gas money since. Why should I go buy an EV that cost $60,000 or in most cases more (talking to you Tesla) when the Prius gives me what I need? I was going to buy the Toyota BZ4X but then they had an issue with tires falling off, so as of now I like 2 vehicles that I would buy; Canoo Van or Aptera (1,000 mile range one) but as of now I’m more leaning towards the Canoo as it’s footprint is basically the same as a Prius just a lot more storage room. Nio is on to something and I see this having a good impact on EV sales, but one thing this video shows is the change station has everyone backing into it, why? There is an opening on both sides just drive in, battery gets changed, drive out like your going through a car wash.

[@thisislogout]

I'm sick of problems on gas cars: transmission failures, engines burning oil, valve jobs, piston jobs, cracked manifolds, radiator problems, catalytic converter replacements, muffler replacements, belts/hose, clutch replacements, brakes replacements (EVs brakes last 3 times longer), engine running to lean, spark plug replacements, etc, etc. My next vehicle will be EV!

[@31knots50]

All issues avoided by using the correct oil and changing as needed lol

[@TopRetroCommercials]

Get a toyota 2007 corolla. Ive had mine for 250k miles haven't changed a single thing. Engine and tran still running strong.

[@collinsmainoo6148]

Have a toyota camry 2009 with 2710000 and still runs good

[@Kurtdog63]

Vehicle battery exchange kind of reminds me of buying a printer. You pay 49 dollars for the printer and they charge you 39 dollars for the ink cartridges. Bunch of people bought EV's under guise of free battery swap, and now they are forced to pay for the battery swap at the mercy of their vehicle manufacturer. Guessing it requires a battery only made by THAT EV company so they will have you over a barrel. Kind of like buying a car and the only place able to service or fix it, is the car dealer...

[@northdakotaham1752]

Buy their car....that got you by the short hairs. You're hooked.

[@Joe-for-You]

Did you mean "they got you"? @@northdakotaham1752

[@daniel_trang]

The alternative is pay for a battery upfront which is like $15k. And if you battery has issues it will cost another $15k to fix.

[@anythingoriginal]

Seen how the printing industry is doing now that everyone car print their own cheap?

[@SyncF]

@@daniel_trangthe alternative is gas, EVs are dogshit

[@outterlimits1]

That's like, swapping your tool batteries for a fully charged one. That's a better idea then having to wait at charging stations. It would take some time to have enough battery-swap stations all around the U.S. like, gas stations, to make it practical

[@RB-km8ze]

Nio has partnerships with Shell, BP, and the world's second largest gas station network through Sinopec.

[@zmxvbj]

I feel like there's too many things that can go wrong with this scenario. You're trusting this battery swap robot to perfectly unscrew and screw a battery that weighs hundred/thousands of lbs perfectly to your chassis every time? I would rather just wait until battery technology improves so that you can charge 200 miles of range inside 10 minutes (this technology already exists, just not mass produced as of yet). Tesla is installing 1 supercharger every 24 hours. Eventually the charging infrastructure will be as widespread as gas stations and this won't even be an issue

[@user-gd6rp5cqp]

Battery swap is genius. India has been doing this also. But I would recommend swap stations have at least one employee/attendant on site in case something not working correctly. Swap stations could also be paired with small convenience store within so clients could get drinks/coffee snacs etc.

[@AmirFazadh]

I heard there was a startup company doing EVs that are powered by banks of AA batteries. Special circuitry monitors charge and if one cell goes dead, it tells you which one, and you would just need to pull into a 7-11 and grab a pack of AA batteries, pull the correct bank, and replace the bad cell.

[@ReubenAStern]

I heard about this a few years ago. Nice to know the idea works and it's still going.

[@videoj81]

Electronic cars are a great idea , but greedy car companies is what makes it suck . Who can afford these cars , let alone the repairs ?

[@Baka_Oppai]

youre about 10 years late for that argument. Tesla practically giving away cars

[@shanecorby2]

I think the battery swap idea is awesome and is the way to go. I'd buy the car that does battery swapping over one that doesn't swap.

[@daleredmon8111]

Your comment is an important selling point. Madison Ave, take notice!😮

[@robertkubrick3738]

Buy some NIO stock, don't let their going out of business stop you. The stock is only $5.79, down from $7.

[@geoh7777]

Maybe battery swiping will become as popular as catalytic converter theft.

[@coz2j69]

@@robertkubrick3738 NIO also makes phone and semi-conductor chips , unlike to go out of business

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@coz2j69 No company with $5 stock price is likely to stay in business long term.

[@Lottodds]

NIO Wont last after Solid State batteries arrive. 900 miles on one charge. With 10 min super charging. 40% cheaper and no fire hazard.

[@sigacious]

i though of this idea for semi trucks. i think it’s a step in the right direction, to address the major issue plaguing EV’s. people who say they flat-out don’t like them have probably gotten passed by one on the highway. SHWOOOM

[@StevensonCemetery]

At my old job this is what we did with the forklifts. Slide out the battery and charge it and slide in a charger battery and keep on working.

[@normantubb4980]

I've had a Tesla Y for 5 months and been to a supercharger once for 10 minutes (bathroom break and got a coke). All the rest of the time I park in the garage and plug it in. No need to stop anywhere else or get gasoline odors on my hands or clothes. I love it.

[@kadmow]

- you are very fortunate to be amongst the demographic whose commute involves short trips (less than a full battery per round trip) and access to home charging. - For persons like you, a swappable battery appears unnecessary - unless there arose a problem, whereby your battery may be out of warranty, developing a fault (bad cell, or loss of range), then being able to swap it out for a rapid replacement - and have the old battery discarded - the constituents recycled - or reconditioned for future use. If the swap function were never used, having access to the potential "upgrade service" would not have to increase your dailystress levels at all (it could well be developed as a user chooses, user pays system - with insurance option).

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@kadmow NIO going out of business because it was a bad idea. You can buy NIO stock for $5.79.

[@garysmith1234]

100% agree. Why pay a monthly fee and swap when you can charge at home. Makes sense when you live in a densely populated area without garages like China.

[@johnweiland9389]

If nio loses money there is no point. Maybe a different company to not only offer charging stations. But to be able to remove the battery when it wears out. And either repair or replace it.

[@hpgo5837]

Still the problem, even with battery swapping, is infrastructure. They would need to provide adequate infrastructure in order to provide batteries to everyone who needs them at any given time. Even with non swapping the chargers are starting to get over crowded and just aren’t efficient enough to provide a stop, charge and go experience that gas stations have. We are still years away from getting to that point.

[@VENGADOR007]

This swapping system is an excellent way to go specially in crowded cities like London, you did forget to say that NIO just entered in partnerships with big players Geely, Changan Auto and more to come

[@djtaylorutube]

Not really. Unless there's a battery swap station around every corner, the delay driving across the city to the swapping station would FAR exceed a rapid charge. Anyone who has driven across London knows just how long it takes to go a couple of miles.

[@marvenlunn6086]

How will they find the room for battery swapping stations? You will need a lot of batteries at these swapping stations

[@tommy_egan]

@@marvenlunn6086 Actually you might not need a lot of batteries per swap station. The swap stations recharge the batteries that have been removed from cars. With DC fast charging modern EVs can charge up to 80 percent in 30 minutes and full charge in an hour. If we allow each battery 60 minutes to get to full capacity and each battery swap takes 5 minutes then a battery swap station only needs 12 batteries to provide continuous service.

[@marvenlunn6086]

@tommy_egan who could afford to run a battery swap station that could only swap 12 a hour except in a rural community , think about gas stations and how many cars can fuel up at the same time equipment needed to swap batteries in multiple cars would take up a lot of room also fast charging is harder on the batteries so you don't really want to do it unless you really need to

[@Robert-ky5ks]

@@djtaylorutube you can charge it as any other car .... but you have option of swap... and you will never have a battery that is less and less capble over the years... win win

[@NoThanks-ju1tm]

Imagine how screwed you are when there is a storm and you have to evacuate, but theres no power for miles in some states. If you've ever evacuated during a storm and seen how wild the gas stations are, then it will be just the same if not worse this way

[@thomasnyborg6233]

If there is no electric power, how to you operate the gas pumps then?

[@DecrepitBiden]

Or even swipe your debit or credit card?

[@nio3211]

If there's a storm the swap stations would back feed the grid and keep things powered....

[@EM-cz4rd]

LOL you didn’t think this through

[@ChickensAndGardening]

@@thomasnyborg6233 In some regions, such as Florida, fuel stations are required to have backup generators. I'm not sure how many stations in the U.S. but it's definitely increasing. 90% of California fuel pumps now have generators.

[@psyhokinetik]

you dont have to pay for a new batery and always have a new charged batery in you car. who can deny this over tesla option?

[@Tahir-cu1no]

Having the most inexpensive car for daily use. They are way ahead of the world.

[@cosme2032]

The lines together a swap 😂

[@HumbleBearcat]

I have a few concerns: (1) How do you know the age & condition of the battery that you are being swapt to? If I just bought a brand new car with a brand new battery, I am reluctant to swapt. (2) As battery technology continues to improve and evolve, swapping will create issues unless the batteries stay the same and never deteriate and you know that's not going to happen.

[@anythingoriginal]

id imagine it would be a subscription.

[@juicebokz7743]

I would imagine that new cars would have recycled batteries rather than new ones, since they are meant to be swapped out. And I would imagine batteries that were in bad condition would be taken out of circulation to be refurbished. I think that would lower the price of the new cars since they don't specifically have to make a new battery for each car, and I think that would help with the depreciation since there would be no giant cost to replace an old battery in an EV that isn't meant to swap batteries. I am not an EV guy myself, but as far as their business model I think that would make the most sense.

[@johnmiceli8580]

The car doesn’t come with batteries. Just like when you buy a new car it doesn’t come with gas.

[@haohanshi4377]

1) The batteries are checked once they got swapped to ensure they are in good condition, and the ones that do not meet the standard will be replaced. So all the batteries are new or nearly new. What's better is that you can purchase a small battery for commute and rent a large battery if you want to do long travel, which is very economical. I think it's just a mental thing that may make you reluctant to swap. 2) Super charge will be really difficult even if the battery technology evolves. You have to consider about the pressure to the whole electric system in the cities instead of just the battery. Multiple super charge at the same time would just kill the electric system.

[@ggooda]

The battery exchange was ruled out by Tesla a long time ago... It takes about 5 minutes to swap out a battery, and it only takes 15-20 minutes to recharge my Tesla model 3. By the time I've used the bathroom and got a coffee, my car is ready to go again. The newer models are looking at 7 minute charge times. I think this is a redundant and unneeded concept especially in the next few years with solid state batteries. Even my standard electrical plug charges my car 190KM per night, so I only ever need a super charger on interstate trips. Any subscription model will ultimately cost more in the longer term, which is why tech companies love subscription models.

[@garyarmstrong6992]

Still love our Volt. Charges overnight and we never use gas at home. On long trips, the gas engine kicks in automatically and we can get hundreds of miles on a tank of gas, after a 5 minute fillup.

[@cblizz730]

Solid-state battery technology will phase this out like HD DVD.

[@tammysimons4916]

If I could get the car cheaper without a battery and do battery swapping for a reasonable price, I might consider an EV. I think hybrids make more sense though.

[@juju-xx5xn]

I agree with you on that. EV's are still in their infancy. They are not where they should be. They need to solve the battery issue. They should be pushing hybrids more.

[@pastoryoda2789]

Tammy you don't have money for an EV

[@lordcorgi6481]

I've always wondered why they have quick swap batteries for drills and impacts but not for cars. It makes a lot more sense than sitting around charging for hours.

[@ro4056]

You know I like your channel , however you keep stating miss information. I been driving EV since 2019 and this 30 to an hour 60 to charge on a road trip is completely wrong.. I like to take 200 to 300 mile road trips on my Tesla and I stop once for 8 mins.. the software tells you 8 mins charge is enough to get you to your destination. If you follow the instructions you only stopping for a short time.. people need to change your mindset. It's not a gas car you don't need to charge to 100%.. and waste all that time.. 95% of my daily driving and charging is done at home while I sleep.

[@Righteous628]

What about waiting in line and malfunctioning stations and winter underperformance

[@ro4056]

@@Righteous628 I can't speak to non Tesla vehicles charging stations. I have heard they are horrible.. but as Tesla owner I never have issues with their super charger . Not one time have a come to a stations and it does not work. Secondly waiting in line?? When you drive to a station the Tesla will tell you how many are opened and if it's full. So you already know. Again a feature that non Tesla vehicles don't have. They are the issues. These companies like Ford, Chevy and all these other major car companies jumping into the EV market without charging infrastructure. That's the problem. All they see Tesla making all this money but Tesla built there charging infrastructure 12 years ago. All they did was built these EV cars not understanding how are people going to really charge their car in long trips. Tesla's built-in system tells you how long to charge where to charge preheat your battery for fast charging. Their software's just incredible. All these other car companies are great at building cars. But due to their lack of knowledge on EV charging they left their consumers to figure out that issue. Which is causing a lot of frustration. Oh one more thing, I don't have winter issue I live in California

[@ytpremium7649]

Screw all cars, motor or EV 1-DMV 2-Smog 3-Insurance 4-Bank payments 5-Gas and energy costs 6-Maintenance 7-Dents, scratches, collision 8-Body shop repairs 9-Theft 10-Tow fees 11-Impound fees 12-Car wash and detailing 13-Traffic tickets 14-Stupid driving laws 15-Road rage 16-Flats 17-Moochers 18-Traffic anxiety 19-Repair appointments 20-Bad health no exercise 21-Where to park 22-Tempted to waste and spend 23-Trying to keep up with the Joneses 24-Defrost delays 25-Costly wear and tear 26-Having to pull over for emergency vehicles 27-Dishonest mechanics E bikes rule!! Who's with me???

[@CombatSport777]

Nio was bailed out by the Chinese government when they ran out of money. They aren't profitable and their company currently looks to be heading toward bankruptcy again. Swapping is extremely expensive as there needs to be more than one battery per vehicle (batteries are expensive). The swapping stations are expensuve too (hense the company is burning cash). I think you are way off on this one Scotty. My wife drives a model Y and we absolutely love it. We charge once a week in our garage. We use her vehicle for road trips as it saves us a lot of money and we have never had any issues. As battery tech and charging tech improves, charging time and range will make swapping unnecessary.

[@lv4077]

They’ll get marginally better but that’s all,the physics and expense is a little problem

[@SuperChewy808]

I thought it did NOT have a battery?! Maybe I’m wrong but I believe they are swapping a battery?! 🤡🤡

[@jimmydavis8954]

You don't "buy" the battery. You buy the car without a battery and then pay a monthly subscription for access to swapping batteries. It's interesting because most people are scared to buy an EV because replacing a battery costs upwards of 15-20k but with Nio, just go get another battery lol

[@woodywoodlstein9519]

This is a no brainer Elon already thought of this. There’s reasons why it’s not happening yet in the US. But it will. One huge difference is that in China You can’t even legally put a car on the road that Isn’t EV anymore. In big swaths of China new ICE cars are literally outlawed. You can’t get them registered.

[@MrMoonMath]

I like it because you’re not responsible for the battery if it goes bad. This is usually the largest cost after awhile the battery always needs to be replaced.

[@patrickvolpe7508]

Nicely researched, well done video. I think the ongoing innovation and troubleshooting of the whole EV business is a good thing.

[@jaydeases]

Scotty Kilmer. The Original American Treasure.

[@RotimiOrimoloye]

Funny how these folks think that customers would automatically say, "Hey this new NIO would make me not buy a Tesla, but it will somehow NOT have any affect on my decision to buy a Ford or Toyota Rav 4"

[@bluesdoggg]

Best case scenario is not waiting in line at a charging station, it's charging at home while you sleep.

[@brucebassitt9835]

As an owner of an EV I can tell you that the idea sounds great, however there are so many factors to consider. 1. Each EV brand comes with potentially different battery chemistry and configuration. 2. The battery packs vary from vehicle to vehicle in both size and capacity. 3. Then you need to consider the battery manager system (bms) used varies based on the manufacturer. 4. What if you have a new, fully functioning battery pack and when you swap it out you might end up with a pack that is less fully functional. 5. As stated in this video, each swap station would need to support a huge number of battery packs (including different types to support more than one EV brand). What happens when you pull in to swap your battery pack only to find out that they don’t have any more of your battery pack type available? 6. Trying to get companies to agree on battery chemistry, size, configuration, bms, is going to meet with major headwinds. Since we are watching competing companies demonstrate new technologies and capabilities all the time, how are you going to get them to agree (and then who foot’s the R&D bill?)? Since Tesla established a fast DC charging network early on which has a 99.6% or better availability rate the competitors realized the value and are coming on board. If they also learn how to create better battery management systems they could charge much faster than they can today.

[@iSot80]

You should read more about this system before reply.

[@Ranbo5]

Nice video, Scotty. As someone who owns an electric car - but not a garage - I have always liked the battery swap idea, and I'm pretty sure the technological challenges could be overcome if companies got together with a standard. Hope Nio makes it (to profitability). Maybe they can license out their swap tech with other mfgs. (ala NACS)

[@NIOFAN001]

They just signed in Nov 2023 Changan Automobile ,Geely Group Automobile and NIO signed the partnership agreement on battery swapping

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@NIOFAN001 The infrastructure is too expensive.

[@NIOFAN001]

@@mrgurulittle7000 65,000 swaps a day for now.... do the mate 30-50 yuan/swap + electricity cost

[@gentillydanny]

I agree. Standards have to be agreed upon, liability issues resolved.

[@Latiosx123]

yea sounds fun and all. If the company goes bankrupt, the car you bought just became a museum art piece

[@davidquartey9816]

This totally solves the problem of having to deal with the headache of a dead EV battery. If your tesla runs out of battery in the middle of nowhere, or at an airport packing lot, you have to tow... and towing will be the least of your problems

[@polla2256]

I think battery swapping definitely has a future. The common way should be home charging but for the handful of times you need to do long range then you swap for a larger capacity as a lease, when you're done you change back to your original battery.

[@r.l.8170]

Future? HAHAHAHA. They'll go bankrupt before it'll really take off. Faster battery charging and longer lasting battery is the future.

[@user-tg5rt2hk4e]

Coyota Mirai

[@robertkubrick3738]

The future for NIO is bankruptcy and the future is NOW!. NIO stock price has fallen from $7 to $5.79 in a couple weeks. Buy all their stock you want.

[@polla2256]

@@r.l.8170 true, we're seeing the bubble burst and big players will fall like in every industrial revolution. If the majority of the cost for an EV is in the battery it makes sense to lower the barrier of entry with smaller batteries that can be upgraded when needed. Waiting for solid state, flow battery, plasma cell is pie in the sky. Battery swapping is something we can do with technology today.

[@r.l.8170]

@@polla2256 Battery swap will work for some, but not for everyone. Tesla super charger will become the standard in the US and with some people who would rather charge their car while at sleep or home is another convenience. I have solar, so my savings increases when I charge at home. I don't use super chargers unless I'm making a long road trip and I do need restroom breaks and such, so them super chargers will work for me.

[@MichaelTSmith]

Thanks, I appreciate your well-done video. I'd welcome information regarding Nio's soon coming Alps brand scheduled to come out in '24. I think the Alps EVs having swappable capability along with an inexpensive price tag could seriously give Tesla a run for their money. I'd be interested in your take on that.

[@VriendRick]

EVs are dangerous! A small dent of 3 mm in the battery will cause it to catch fire or even explode. A new battery pack costs between 20,000 - 70,000 euros This will never be a success! The disadvantages do NOT outweigh the advantages

[@whycantthisbeblank]

You missed the best part of swapping batteries - NO NEED FOR A REPLACEMENT. When batteries are constantly getting swapped out, the car owner is not the one that has to replace the batteries when they are out of spec &/or not holding charge as it should. This may be part of the reason Nio is loosing so much money. The main reason I have not bought an EV yet is because I'm afraid as soon as I do, they will come out with a much better and cheaper battery. (Sodium Ion, for example) If the batteries are constantly being swapped out, they can be replaced with batteries using the latest technology at the time, assuming they remain the same footprint.

[@waywardwest]

Japan was testing this type of vehicle and infrastructure when I was stationed there back in 2004. I think this is really how America gets EV to go mainstream. It would require to retool our current gas stations to be battery swap stations. No more long waits for charging. It would be similar to filling up your car with gas now. It eliminates range anxiety and whole host of concerns when deciding to buy an EV. Id still opt for a gas vehicle but this way is better than the current solution.

[@vikingnj6731]

Average home in the US uses 26kw per day, to charge the average EV car battery once on a fast charge requires on average 300kw. First thing that HAS TO BE DONE is upgrading the electrical infrastructure and power supply. From some estimates I have heard to accomplish this would be in the range of 400TRILLION.

[@samk2266]

whats even better is to just stick with gas stations because it's still way easier than all these other new ideas for powering vehicles

[@samk2266]

@@vikingnj6731 yea, basically every city will need a new nuclear reactor, otherwise it will just mean even more 'burning of fossil fuels' which is supposedly 'bad' and why they are creating all these stupid things in the first place

[@johnmiceli8580]

Easily, overcome, prefab EV stations you just drop them in place and hook up electric to them

[@kadmow]

@@vikingnj6731 - this is another reason why the governments of the world are very happy to encourage the citizens to take responsibility for their own power needs, and install home solar (it alleviates some of that $400T - Global price tag 3B x $5k is 1$5T, that isn't nothing - noting that if 3B households did this it would basically shore-up energy supply globally.).- with an EV in the garage one may take care of their own commuting needs (for 5 day a week workers, a 30kWh home battery will go a significant way to buffering the charge for when the car arrives back home in the evening - ready to slowly decant over the evening and be ready for another run in the morning (or whenever needed).

[@justaviewer111]

Battery swapping sounds like a fantastic idea: No more range anxiety, no more long waits, and best of all no worries about battery degredation over time. It's too bad it can't be universal among the manufacturers and models and too bad they're finding some tough logistical hurdles. This might be the one of the very few times that goverment invovment can actually help!

[@CrossWindsPat]

Its exactly what a government that isnt completely run by vulture capitalist would do, effective regulation and modernization and green incentives. The last thing they want is to make their oil overlords angry!

[@sibaraku2023]

Nio started corporate with other car companies in China last year to use the same standard battery and I believe there are a couple of other brands could use the swap station now.

[@henryhonda8408]

Ya with government intervention this would turn into a total disaster! Politicians can't even agree on the simplest little thing so this would be doomed before it even comes close to starting up.

[@CrossWindsPat]

@@henryhonda8408 Im sure corporations will take much better care of us 🤣🤣🤣

[@JeremyBWallace]

​@@CrossWindsPatAt least they don't use extortion to get anything done.

[@ChimaChindaDev]

NIO to the moon. They are the future.

[@yasuoaugustus2435]

There is a shortage of electricity all over the world!! ️ It is impossible to increase EV further than this at this point! ️!! ️!! ️

[@libsrdum]

Can you imagine the fire at a swapping station if one battery bursts into flame?

[@raffimanion1469]

Thanks Scotty , great idea, but leaves a lot of questions. Obviously cost is a major concern for economic feasibility; battery design would have to be standardized but may not be compatible with cooling systems of different EVs which presently limits battery swaps to s single manufacturer, and there is the big problem of electricity availability, etc.

[@NSUScooter]

Cost wouldn’t be a concern if batteries were standardized. In fact, that would lower the cost of EV’s dramatically because cars wouldn’t come with a battery. Instead, the car would come with a Leased battery. Every time you go to swap your battery, you’re paying for the power used and the temporary rental cost of the battery. Once batteries themselves are a source of revenue, a whole other battery servicing industry will be born which will create jobs. The only thing stopping batteries from being standardized the same way Petrol is, is greed.

[@calknight]

What's stopping the swap station from giving you a bad battery or giving you back another depleted battery? It sounds good on paper or in concept, but how well will it play out in practice?

[@ricksmith3045]

Swap it again.

[@CarlosGonzalez-xs8sn]

My 2015 has 200k+ miles and hasn’t had a battery swap yet. 😀

[@warrendonaldson4144]

Battery swap seems like the best EV idea so far. And it really really sucks...

[@ronvalley1973]

Scientists have figured how anti matter works to make flying saucers whizz so fast, cars will be next Scotty! Excellent video!

[@sailing7seas]

I charge my Bolt 97 percent at home. It cost $4.00 to go 250 summer miles. 180 in the winter. Battery swap would work great if you drive on long trips but most people only drive 40 miles a day. By far the best car I’ve ever had.

[@freetolook3727]

So, the real cost of a Neo is $77,000 ($35,000 loss subsidized plus $42,000 sale price of car). This is one of the reasons why no one is buying EVs.

[@anthonygato407]

maybe an ideal place for this question ... forgive my automotive ignorance but why is it even necessary for an EV to have to be powered by a battery that requires recharging? 1) like in how petroleum cars have alternators that replenish the battery during traveling I wonder what prevented EV cars incorporating a more robust version of the alternator concept. is this possible in at a viable level? 2) theres cameras,ect that get charged from the ambient electricity in the air. could this be done for a supplemental use case at least?

[@Joe-for-You]

Your ignorance is forgiven. Now, go finish your Jello.

[@labornurse]

That would be one huge alternator

[@TB-up4xi]

Yes indeed your ignorance knows no bounds. We have battery cars that need no recharging - they are called hybrids. BEV's already recharge their batteries while slowing down and braking and far more efficiently than the alternator in a petrol car. You would need an area the size of Connecticut to capture enough static to power an EV.

[@CoolSteve77]

I would prefer Scotty's Celica over these. 😅

[@JackBruce222]

Solid state batteries will take over. Range and battery life will be double. Voltages will be higher with shorter charging times. EV battery swapping will be a thing of the past.

[@Diabolica843]

Imagine waiting in line to swap your batteries every week. What a joke.

[@javig5045]

Scotty although I like the idea of buying a electric car the one thing that troubles me is the fact that some of them just burst into flames, how in the hell can this go unsolved, have you any input on this subject?

[@nio3211]

Nios battery swap stations check each batteries condition when swapped out before recharging if it finds a problem cell it will remove it for repair. China will require batteries tombe checked yearly soon. Battery swap does that for free now

[@russellsmith8444]

Nice try but thermal runaway is still the issue.

[@rune54321]

Very few burst into flames, way more gas cars does - it just doesn't get much attention

[@deemont8838]

@@russellsmith8444 Thermal runaway is potentially problematic on cars that have batteries made with NMC lithium ion batteries. The new technology is LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) or LFP batteries that do not burst into flames like the NMC (Nickel Manganese Cobalt) lithium batteries. Many car makers including Tesla are using LFP or are in the process of using LFP batteries due to it's inherent safety. Another advantage of LFP batteries is that it can be charged 3X-6X more than NMC lithium batteries and that means that you potentially won't have to change the battery during the entire lifespan of the car. The cost of LFP batteries is less due to the use of less expensive elements i.e. iron and phosphorus instead of manganese and cobalt. There are also environmental advantages to using LFP batteries.

[@lionelchery2406]

I like battery swap for these reasons: 1) It only takes 5 minutes to swap a battery for a new one. 2) You don't need to leave the vehicle, so your protected from the elements. 3) You don't have to look over your shoulder as you would gassing a ICE vehicle. 4)Lastly, imagine being at home watching a movie, while you send your vehicle out to battery swap. 🤔

[@richardpiotrowski2118]

So you get someone's crappy battery in return? Yet the headline says, "This New Electric Car Has No Battery and Just Killed Tesla’s Future" Typical Scotty Kilmer.

[@anthonyberry6769]

2 things- 1st is battery packs would have to be universal with every auto manufacturer. 2nd would be an automated system that can have the ability to adjust to different models of vehicles.