This new Plasma Ignition system will improve your car's fuel economy by up to 20%

[@plightn]

I think that’s a good point, making older cars greener is a good way to help the overall ecology, if we can make the internal combustion engine run on hydrogen it will be cleaner than an electric car.

[@Ryknfjor]

Exactly. EV is the future if youre a corrupt elite. Hydrogen and nuclear is the the _real_ green energy solution.

[@RENRAW111]

Hi Chris! I just saw one of your videos for the first time. Really nice! It made me explore the rest of your library. I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work. I'm enjoying them very much. It is and you are appreciated. So, Thank You once again! From a Fellow lifelong car guy in Los Angeles.👍

[@ChrisVSCars]

Dude you just made my day😁😁

[@peterschmidt1453]

Improving ICE is still valid, about 4 million electric vehicles per year is the current production, it will be decades before there are enough electric vehicles to significantly replace over 1 billion ICE vehicles.

[@SharhbiniRauf]

Perfect ignition for hydrogen ICE engines.

[@fredford7642]

We most certainly need something to improve the fuel economy of our personal way of transport. Here in Canada, one gallon of gasoline is close to $7.50. So a typical fill-up can cost close to $100. That is not acceptable. Even if a new improvement could save 20%, that is not enough. It certainly helps, but it is not enough. If we all lived in a compressed environment like Denmark, Hong Kong, or New York City, where the typical automobile is impracticable, or not necessary, public transportation is very efficient. But we don't. Here in North America, we need our pickup trucks and larger cars, as when in many cases we have to travel long distances to get to work, groceries, and different lifestyles.

[@ant00300]

I feel like the plasma ignition is so efficient burns all exhaust smoke and perfectly ignites the fuel air combustion mixture at once to minimize byproducts

[@bruizey7319]

Problem is no mention of an aftermarket system that could be retro fitted to older ICE's. And as you said in the introduction, you would love to make your old vehicles more efficient which also avoids the environmental cost of building a new vehicle (be it ice or electric). I'm not sure that's what vehicle makers want though...

[@JBeck2468]

I messaged the creator Dan Singleton about this exact idea a few years ago and he told me that unfortunately as of then there was no intention in creating a retrofit kit for older vehicles.

[@torbenalstrup3902]

@@JBeck2468 That is correct, which is a real shame both from a business opinion and also from an emission type of opinion. While EV seems to be the future, however enviromentally dirty in the production phase, they are less pollutive in the user atmosphere and that is all that counts for people on that side of the isle, - who also VERY RARELY have the need for other transportation than the subway. (Slightly biased, but still) 50% of the developed world could most likely handle a transition to EV´s within a 10-12 year time frame, but that would leave the lesser financially viable countries in the dust- litterally speaking, because that is where all the precius metals are being excavated. But it is not the first time developments are being directioned towards new vehicles alone. There are several systems out there already which can improve average fuel efficiency with 6-10% on almost any vehicle. The problem with those systems are that most of them fight higher Nox levels, which is of course bad. BUT, when looking at the TOTAL amount of Nox per driven km. it is still 3-6% LESS than conventional. Sadly these systems are illegal in most countries because they interfeer with the car´s ECU, and in many countries it is illegal to modify the ECU and if you get caught in an inspection it is so expensive in fines and "authorized" correction that you migh as well just scrap the car. The main problem is - once again - that the people legislating within these matters do not have the sufficient background to make these laws on a knowledge based foundation. Think of it. Would you hire the average social worker to do the roof of your house? If we were not governed by stupid laws and regulations that primarily is to ensure that the goverment has its dirty little snout down in every little thing that has the potential to pay a dividende- and at the same time create "equal levels" for both the person living in an appartment and the family who are living in a house, we would have been way further in the quest of using and reusing waste energy as well as saving on the energy spent. Bottom line is, I hope someone with enough skills in such matters are able to make a similar system to be retrofitted in older- and vintage cars, because there is a huuge potential. I have played a lot with conventional plasma igntion for race cars and tried to implement it onto street cars/engines. The power potential is there, the emission reduction is there, but the system I have been using are too high strung and i have not found the level where there is enough plasma spark to get the advantages but also make the plugs live for a decent amount of miles, yet

[@martinmuldoon603]

​@@torbenalstrup3902this is very interesting, I've only got interested in this plasma ignition because I've recently purchased a bi fuel car(gasoline and Lpg), it's not running as good as I would like so I have bought Plustar (tm) spark plugs which seller claims create a plasa spark which will ingnite fuel air mixture earlier and better than conventional spark plugs, I am waiting on delivery tomorrow morning,I can't wait to try them however I understand the manufacturer may be exaggerating how well these plugs work, if i find a small improvement that is a step in the right direction.

[@chrispompano]

What plasma ignitions have you tried????? I didn't know there were any like this in the aftermarket...

[@yeboscrebo4451]

The EV movement isn’t about making the world greener, it’s about restructuring the connectivity of the world for greater economic control, political control and social control

[@JohnDoe-yq9ml]

First. Can’t wait to see that new rotary that’s shaped like the number 8

[@jackpatteeuw9244]

They have been researching this for over 40 years !

[@icarossavvides2641]

Three observations if I may, if the plasma doesn't have enough energy to ignite a match I can't see how it's going to ignite a compressed fuel/air mixture? Second, plasma ignition is nothing new, various systems have come on the market over, at least, the last 30 years. The most efficient ICE's are F1 units which run at some 50%, the most efficient road going ICE's are some 35%, 20% up on 35% is 42%? Wouldn't manufacturers have installed this already in their cars?

[@RGV2300]

What are those others ignition systems?

[@naboolicious6283]

Improving the ICE engine with new technology, better cleaner fuels and advanced configurations is the only way to go. Going to 'clean' electric vehicles that require 100 times the mining and processing of exotic materials really is unsustainable.

[@Piasecznik72]

Do they have running engine? Do they confirmed with it that more lean mixture is possible and do not shorten life of engine to which it was retrofitted? Do they? No?

[@Project23D]

I'm not sure it's a more lean fuel/air mixture... is more of ingition generation.. instead of speck size ignition source, it's significant increase of surface area

[@VGHCX]

"Improve fuel economy by 20%." According to who? Where did you generate the 20% from?

[@MrS22222]

HHO or raw Hydrogen powered ICEs would be so much better than electric cars. I'm sure we could do it safely if we tried hard enough.

[@michaelparks3106]

The big problem with hydrogen is supply and distribution. It might work for large fixed installations, but is impractical for individual cars fueled at corner gas stations.

[@powertothesheeple5422]

No they really are not. The massive amount of energy needed to create and store liquid hydrogen is completely counterintuitive to what you would consider a "green" energy. You are basically driving an electric power plant that runs off of hydrogen - you cannot run any current ICE engine of hydrogen due to its very low energy density and terrible efficiency. It would have to be bespoke to specifically run off that fuel and would achieve 30% efficiency at best. So you have all the complexity of an EV (sans the battery) and the complexity of a hydrogen powered fuel cell all in one. The only benefit Hydro cars ever had was the faster refueling times compared to charging. Soon EV's will be able to charge to 80% in under 15 min so nearly every advantage of a hydro car is being eroded away by the evolution of EVs. Least we not forget that H is #1 on the periodic table, meaning the smallest element we know of, so it will literally eventually leak out of any container you can possibly make to store it in.

[@MrS22222]

@@powertothesheeple5422 why store it when you can just make it through electrolysis?

[@powertothesheeple5422]

@@MrS22222 Because to make enough of it in a short time for refueling or on-board creation, the systems would have to be massive - it's not a fast process.

[@norbertnagy5514]

​@@powertothesheeple5422and electrolisys is power hungry too right?

[@raiderjohn9407]

If they can get the ignition to be smooth like a normal spark then it'd be wonderful. Not only could you get better mpg, but more power and torque as well. However with the current ignition wave pattern caused by the numerous psuedo sparks the system would significantly reduce engine life. With the current burn pattern it would induce rod knock, and piston slap in a similar way to a severe misfire caused by not only bad spark, but also but afr. So basically with where the tech is at now it cant be used in an engine, but it does show promise, it just needs to be developed enough to be precisely controlled so that the burn is even and clean.

[@busterscrugs]

Induce rod knock? You mean knock? Aka detonation. Rod knock is something entirely different.

[@raiderjohn9407]

@@busterscrugs no i mean rod knock, the detonation was explained as piston slap, and detonation subsequently creates rod knock by slamming the assembly back into the crankshaft, thus wearing out the crank bearings extremely fast.

[@conradaleshire4428]

Would love to squeeze an extra 20% out of my truck!

[@RazorBrain1]

While ev's are great. The combustion engine isn't going to just vanish and be obsolete like horses were. And in reality the better and cleaner an engine runs the more power and efficiency you can achieve. It will also help the motors last longer the more complete the fuel is burned leaving less carbon deposits to cause wear.

[@michaelparks3106]

I think the ICE will be obsolete just like horses were. Over the next 20 ~ 40 years it will be phased out and will only be owned by hobbyists and collectors. The cost benefit alone will drive the conversion: I have solar panels on my roof so the "fuel" for my EV is essentially free, and coasting downhill add free "fuel" to the battery. I will never have the ability to make gasoline at home, and coasting an ICE car will never put more gas in the tank. As for cost, my solar panels have generated over 70Mw so far, enough to have paid the installation cost 3 times over. Not to mention no cost for tune-ups, oil changes, smog certification, or most general maintenance that an ICE requires.

[@ericb.4358]

WELL? Is it now IN PRODUCTION??

[@tybriggs9880]

Is this something you can retrofit to current vehicles

[@fredhether1610]

How can we purchase this thank you

[@peterbland7227]

Anything that reduces emissions is progress. The more reduction, the better.

[@azshooter348]

What is the working life of a plasma system compared to cheap, disposable sparkplugs?

[@amazoniam3695]

You had me at "not all of us can afford an EV" I would totally get a Plasma retrofit kit for my 16 year old ICE sedan. Also, I must point out that I'm really annoyed that PLUG-IN HYBRID cars are not being made more. The harsh reality of the situation is most people are not willing or able to go full EV for a lot of good reasons (cost of vehicle, lack of charging stations, too much time to charge, etc. etc.). Plus economic realities will not allow this sudden switch over to no petrol. Yeah, it would be nice if it could happen, but it's just not going to. Instead, as usual, most car makers are totally out of touch with reality and have jumped from ICE to full EV. * smh *

[@ChrisVSCars]

Exactly

[@shawnnoyes4620]

Hopefully, Mazda MX30 will show a good way to deploy the Wankel rotary as a range extender. However, the Wankel is better with

[@freelectron2029]

TPS has been putting out PR videos telling us they are only 18 months away from the market for over 6 years....

[@zafar78600]

Sure.And combine that with a 200 mpg carburettor and you have a winner.

[@shredandenjoy7311]

Interesting. I wonder if this requires adjusting ignition timing as well. Likely needs less advance? The demo video of the smokey exhaust also had the plasma ignition post cylinder? So we're talking emissions replacement of catalytic converter?

[@ChrisVSCars]

No clue if the cat would fall away. And yes i think you would retard the timing🔥

[@davelloyd-]

Interesting, but right at the end there you said manufacturers may have *new* cars our in 18 months. That really doesn't address the core issue you raised at the beginning regarding the billions of existing ICE cars. Soooo, when you read the complicated paper was there anything about it being a one for one spark plug replacement? If not, then the title is misleading - as the tech won't improve the fuel economy of *my* car, but might improve economy for a *new* car.

[@kcjones6034]

Maybe these new spark plugs also last longer. 😎

[@brianwesley28]

Robert Krupa's FireStorm spark plugs may be wise.

[@harrydusseljee1062]

Wil this work on all engines? Like my Opel Astra f 1600 8v

[@ChrisVSCars]

I think that is the plan😁

[@vincentlee2460]

Fit it in a car and show the results. Lab numbers are useless

[@Piasecznik72]

And their video showing flame propagation is also bogus.

[@ChrisVSCars]

They did, they fitted it to a 2.5 camry engine

[@heniumon]

The FireStorm Plasma iPlug is a new entry in the formerly mundane area of Spark Plugs. All Spark Plugs produce "sparks" to ignite the Air Fuel Mixture in the combustion Chambers. FireStorm is different, it produces "PLASMA". By doing that, it eliminates the Catalytic Converter and EGR Systems and can still pass future emission requirements in California. Here is a clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5PaiXSmoLGbmMU Further testing after that clip was shot in Detroit proved a 70% savings in fuel all while affording a 125 More Horsepower. It is a Paradigm Shift in Air Fuel Ratio as this plug operates at 30 to 1 Air to Fuel Ratio. All current IC engines operate at 14.7 to 1 and require a Cat and EGR. FireStorm can even crack water right in the Combustion_Chamber thereby eliminating so-called HHO Generators. Can I hear fill your car up at the side of your house with the garden hose? YES!!!!

[@bort6414]

*laws of thermodynamics have left the chat*

[@danmaycock9238]

Wonder if this could be utilised in diesel??

[@artempopov3913]

diesel doesnt have spark plugs and diesel is already 20% + more fuel efficiant compared to petrol

[@danmaycock9238]

Good point, I meant used differently like instead of a glow plug

[@artempopov3913]

@@danmaycock9238 glow plugs don’t ignite the fuel in diesel engines. Glow plugs only pre heat the chamber before the engine starts when the air temperature is below a certain point. Once the diesel engine starts running it doesn’t use the glow plugs. Diesel fuel ignites from the pressure made by the compression in the cylinder.

[@danmaycock9238]

@@artempopov3913 Point accepted 👍

[@poke12gauge32]

Seems cool but the thing is will tgis be used in gas cars or will the be used in hydrogen combustion cars

[@Piasecznik72]

@Enrique Thiele Also problem with hydrogen is that commercial way of production generates more CO2 than running engine with gasoline. To make it clean we have to use electrolysis which is way to expensive. Only if we harness fusion energy and it become 10x cheaper than current electric energy prices hydrogen generation would be feasible and clean.

[@SpynCycle57]

What's the durability? Can it last at least 100K miles?

[@michaelparks3106]

Add a Fish carburetor and you would have the perfect ICE! (if this actually worked, why wouldn't the auto manufacturers already be using it?)

[@freelectron2029]

auto manufactures dont tend to use technology before the technology is invented. its kind of an engineering rule. )

[@freelectron2029]

but serious, if you know about fish carbs then you know that all through history tech which lowered fuel consumption has been shelved due to big auto and big oil has close ties and handshake agreements. doesnt take a genius to work that one out.

[@michaelparks3106]

@@freelectron2029 Ha ha ha. Yep, that's the line they used to sell the Fish carburetor! Seriously though, the idea that GM or any automaker would pass on some gadget that would make their cars super-competitive in the gas milage wars just because of some mythical handshake agreements with "big oil" is ludicrous to anyone who understands basic business or how corporations operate.

[@norbertnagy5514]

​@@michaelparks3106how does this fish carburator compares to today injection engines? And i wonder if it somwhow gained traction again will it be a good use case to put them on lawn movers and other small engines.

[@michaelparks3106]

@@norbertnagy5514 My first comment about the fish carburetor was sarcasm. Anyone who thinks changing one thing on a highly developed gasoline engine will result in a 20% efficiency gain doesn't understand basic physics.

[@NoorquackerInd]

Please please please port this to the 2GR-FE engine

[@whatthefunction9140]

The spark in a spark plug is literally plasma...

[@ChrisVSCars]

Yes. But these use the plasma in a different way

[@Iowa599]

My existing ignition system does work more than 80% of the time…

[@Will_CH1]

I think we are still constrained by the second law of thermodynamics.

[@norbertnagy5514]

Yeah, but this system is only have a little bit higher cost, and have substantial enough advantages it could be still worth it to switch, just to optimize ice's a little further. Its all about the monetary costs.

[@jtmvintage]

We are finally using 30yr tech commercially... kudos

[@shibaspeed]

“FEV, a globally leading service provider in vehicle and propulsion system development and testing, evaluated the performance of the TPS nanosecond pulsed power ignition system on the Toyota 2.5-liter, direct and port fueled injection, inline 4-cylinder gasoline engine commonly used in the Camry line of vehicles. The "Dynamic Force Engine" achieves one of the world's best thermal efficiencies of 40 percent in gasoline powered vehicles according to Toyota. The Toyota 2.5L engine was tested at FEV North America and results indicate improvements over the stock ignition system. Data was collected with the stock ignition system with a representative ignition strategy, followed by comparison to a drop-in replacement with the TPS nanosecond pulsed power ignition system (coil and plug). Results indicate a brake-specific fuel consumption (BSFC) benefit of up to 6 percent with minor calibration changes, which include a multi-pulse ignition strategy, increased external EGR, and optimized spark timing. With the TPS ignition system, there was no degradation of combustion with increased EGR.” - PR Newswire

[@N269]

Got some beachfront property in Arizona, wanna buy it? Cheap...

[@12masterr]

Too late! I already installed a Flux capacitor!

[@gregbailey45]

Great idea 50 years too late.

[@freelectron2029]

all good ideas. but electric is better not just for its green appeal. an ICE has hundred of moving parts that are all disintergrating due to friction. plus the brakes, plus the fuel system, plus the ignition system, plus plus plus. these are all components that wear out. electric cars have barely any. the ongoing maintenacne of a elec car versus ICE is where it wins alone. sure you gota replace batterys but when things scale up that will be cheap and easy, plug and play, with the old battery being easily recycled. just the sheer lack of number of moving parts in a electric car makes it more efficient before you even consider a comparison of the fuel system. once you get number of parts down you greatly reduce cost of manufacture. plus second hand parts willl become plenty even further reducing ongoing cost.

[@naboolicious6283]

My Toyota Camry is faster than a Tesla. I can go from New York to Indiana to visit my friends in 11 hrs. 1 fuel stop. And another bathroom stop. 2 stops total, 15 minutes each stop. Around 700 miles, in December, on I-80 in the Mountains of Pennsylvania. You know, real world sh1t. Tesla? Day and a half? 36-48 hrs?

[@shawnnoyes4620]

I wonder if this help the Wankel Rotary Engine burn fossil fuels better. what about Ammonia fuel?

[@OtisFlint]

Lol no it won't. You probably think HHO works too lmao

[@kmoecub]

Spark plugs use plasma already. Any electrical arc produces plasma. Nifty looking scam.

[@norbertnagy5514]

Of course, Its how its produced bro thats different, look at the high speed video of the flamefront for example. Its like you only read the title but didnt watched the video.

[@JohnFrumFromAmerica]

Nothing can make an ice engine more than 20% efficient that would break laws of thermodynamics.

[@lareau6]

There are ice engine over 40%

[@bendiesel4446]

No man with these plasma plugs, under drive pulley cold air intake and cat delete we will have a perpetual energy machine running on DMT elves

[@freelectron2029]

lol )))