This Nuclear Conspiracy Theory is CRAZY

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When we published a video from Hiroshima, a new kind of conspiracy theorist crawled out of the woodwork. Dozens of comments that claim that nuclear weapons don’t actually exist. Noted Science Zaddy Kyle Hill explains the evidence for nuclear weapons, and why this “theory” might be worse than the idea of a flat Earth.
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[@kylehill]

*Thanks for watching!* I know this one is pretty bonkers but I thought it would be a good opportunity to explore the indelible mark of nuclear weapons -- it's larger than you think.

[@Kumquat_Lord]

There's more evidence for nuclear explosions on mars than evidence nukes don't exist

[@GiantsGraveGaming]

Heresy!!!! Nuclear weapons don't exist cause atoms don't exist! Have you ever seen an atom? eh? eh? EH? ahahahahaha

[@Carimews]

It's truly so insane that people could even believe that nuclear warheads aren't real, how does someone even come to that conclusion?!

[@objective_psychology]

Next “theory”: physicists don't exist

[@adventuretai]

nuclear bombs are not real, the earth is flat, and the moon is bigger than earth. I have heard all these from several younger people we hire at my work. I think there's some serious problem with education now a days.

[@hawkeye7527]

Conspiracy theorists give the government way too much credit

[@shastamite2]

Honestly. They really believe the government could hide something like that as good as they claim?

[@tiglishnobody8750]

@@shastamite2 So Leak is like nothing a joke?

[@harrytroglodyte2129]

They act like the government is one person and a God lmao

[@MtHermit]

To believe the government is 💯 truthful is just as wild

[@Moon_x_sun]

Legit. Like how could you silence scientist, make a multinational deal that everyone agreed both on and not to talk about as Well as make sure no one who is working on it also ever talks about it to anyone except someone Else who is working on it. Snd also that is able to silence all journalists except those who already Sound crazy?

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

Just the idea that the Russians and Americans would conspire together to pretend to be in a nuclear pissing match for 60 years is ludicrous.

[@fattiger2000]

Every country with a centralized bank is working together. All the countries agree you cannot go to the antarctic. They can absolutely agree when it comes to controlling their citizens. Nukes are faked, wars contrived and your mind is programmed by regular scheduled programming.

[@wagnerrp]

⁠​⁠@@MisterFanwank Because the alternative is that the Soviets claimed they had the bomb, and the Americans didn’t call them out on it. Both sides, and the Chinese, French, Indians, Pakistanis, and North Koreans all have to be mutually accepting each other’ bluff.

[@gmr4life884]

​@@MisterFanwank Your paranoia doesn't reflect reality.

[@MrDavidBFoster]

I'm still wondering "why the whole moon shot thing?" After all, you don't shoot 100 billion $$ worth of aluminum into outer space just to show the size of your junk!

[@h.a.9880]

Kind of like the morons that think the moon landings never happened. Literally every nation on earth would have to be in on it and never spill the beans for no reason whatsoever. I'm not saying you have to be stupid to believe this fake-nuke-nonsense (or doubt the moon landings, for that matter), but you have to be really fucking capital letter S *_Stupid_* to doubt the existence of nukes or the moon landings.

[@wildhogOW]

Hello, person from Finland here. We only exist if we're acknowledged outside of our borders. Please keep randomly mentioning us, so we can exist.

[@eliannafreely5725]

Well, you just joined NATO, so there should be an AWACS monitoring your existence from here on out.

[@valkoroska2369]

lopeta

[@apchistuz]

finland

[@kngaming8496]

Tämä on totta

[@CrimsonWolf1775]

Finland doesn't exist, stop spreading that conspiracy.

[@user-ht1dh7uu7f]

My brother in-law dosent believe we've been to space, but had satellite tv

[@Chaotic_evil_duck]

💀

[@Polska_Edits]

He probbaly doesn't think it's satellite

[@LLlego]

💀

[@Kingcake57]

pure gold

[@paulhogsten2613]

All satellites are on balloons!

[@botz77]

It's probably easier for them to think they don't exist than to accept the fact that they could be incinerated in seconds without warning.

[@creeperbait_42]

And without anyone having any way to counter it

[@thrandompug2254]

That's why a lot of things end up like that

[@seanhewitt603]

Microseconds.

[@legro19]

I think it's more the way nuke explosion is presented in movies and book. They over extimate the power of the bomb so they could not have detonate that much that would have ended life on earth.

[@daydrip]

im highly confident that given enough time we will have something capable of stopping the chain reaction from occurring. then again anything is possible for humans given enough time :P @@creeperbait_42

[@Brioshie]

People in a nutshell: "I haven't seen it, therefore it doesn't exist" "I don't understand it, therefore it doesn't work" "I believe it, therefore it is true"

[@SlumberBear2k]

you "I don't want to be ostracized so will listen to whatever argument sounds smarter and will assure i won't be rejected by my peers" intelligent people can see through bullshit. nukes are bullshit.

[@chedelirio6984]

And that last one becomes irrefutable...

[@jlurenzjr]

This post describes almost every human being on the planet. Religion is a perfect example of what you’re saying too.

[@trollmastermike52845]

​@@jlurenzjrgood proof why humans won't advance religion is one of the greatest parasite to ever be created.

[@Wolf_3125]

Gen z in a nutshell

[@TheJudge287]

They are right, Bethesda made them up for more Fallout sales.

[@courtneydaniels7581]

Dad gum it I knew it all along!

[@floof6896]

bethesda was the mastermind all along

[@sentientglow]

i mean, it just worked

[@spvillano]

Hey, one of the better alternative "theories", as it only requires the brief usage of a time machine. ;)

[@NA-oq4ty]

My father was not the smartest man in the world.He was just a marine When they wanted to test whether or not the atomic bombs would be effective against people and how effective they would be against people.They said the company of marines to sit about six miles away from a one mega ton blast. They were outside the effective range of the blast, but they were close enough to die from radiation poison and many years later, in the form of various cancers.They had diagnosis back then. They had Geiger counters back then. Brand new toys. In fact, and the Marines caught enough radiation that they had to shower with a very caustic Soap for quite a whi'll, several hours. Their clothes were burned. They were issued a new kit and told not to talk about this to anyone. My father died at 68 years of age.Only 2 years older than I will be soon. He died from lymphatic cancer Which was directly correlated to is exposure to the atomic bomb during the test. The Marine Corps paid for his burial with honors. I would really like to meet the person who says that the atomic bomb does not exist and show him a few things on his bill.If he's so sure thay don't exist let him pay for the road trip. In the meantime, I'm gonna remember my father as best.I can not as a victim.Or hero as my dad

[@nunyabaznus7851]

And most first responders on 911 developed lung cancer years later. Im pretty sure New York City has never been close to any nuclear materal. Neither have Vietnam, where soldiers and civilians suffered massive health problems and birth defects for years after the war. It's not nuclear, it's chemical and biological materials that cause different forms of cancers.

[@Tmayhem]

@@nunyabaznus7851 radiation can cause cancer y'know

[@mdberg65]

​@nunyabaznus7851 You are an idiot. While it is possible for chemicals to cause cancer, it is ALSO possible for radiation to do so. It's not one or the other, both can be hazardous to your health.

[@3mpt7]

@@nunyabaznus7851 Rolling my eyes here. A lot of things cause cancers--radiation included. If you're a medical professional, or at university, you get to play with radioactive substances quite frequently. Lung cancer tends to come with evidence of the toxins that caused the cancer--such as black tar inside the lungs from smoking. Let me guess: you're one of those people who don't wear a t-shirt, sunscreen, and a hat when the UV Index is high. I'm not paying your medical bills.

[@KJames2345]

​@@nunyabaznus7851 What has you'r comment got to do with the radiation his dad was expose to? You ain't insisting his dads cancer was caused by something else, instead of radiation exposure from a atomic test are you, smh!

[@jaysuede2627]

It remains the silliest thing to me: in order for conspiracies like these to work, every component of every government in the world needs to work together. They can't even do that for mundane reasons...

[@Aaron-tv6fs]

Under rated comment. They act like the government can behave in a coordinated matter for even simple tasks LOL

[@DebTheDevastator]

It's like the moon landing. I said to a moon landing denier, "Do you really think the Russains wouldn't call us out? We lost a spy plane, and we denied it. They released the evidence that it was infact a spy plane." They didn't know what to say.

[@DAndyLord]

Really, they all hinge on a much larger secret supergovernment sitting atop all global institutions.

[@aldominic]

The problem is that when you point thst out to people they will say thst the international conflicts are all a facade to keep the statuous quo.

[@ScorpioneOrzion]

Also think about it, if they could work together, why would the war in ukrane then exist?

[@kingkiwi4]

I find this conspiracy both very funny and terrifying. It’s like starring down the barrel of a loaded gun and claiming bullets don’t exist cause you can’t see down the barrel.

[@rumfordc]

its also like claiming god doesn't exist

[@TiL_Deimos]

@@rumfordcwhat were you trying to do there.

[@GrievyRZ]

@@rumfordcor in your case, it would be like staring into nothingess and claiming nothing is there... -wait a minute...

[@rumfordc]

@@TiL_Deimos drawing a comparison between denying the existence of god/karma and nuclear weapons

[@rumfordc]

@@GrievyRZ that made no sense

[@bedelian]

Science communicators in the 90s and 00s: "And that, kids, is how friction works." Science communicators today: "I'm begging you, please stop commenting that photosynthesis is fake."

[@meci6625]

As a biologist, I will defend photosynthesis until my dying breath. RuBisCo for life!

[@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960]

@@meci6625 plants are fake and are made of chocolate

[@darthplagueis13]

The problem with suggesting simple tests such as examining a bit of trinitite to conspiracy theorists is the following: They believe that you are either intentionally lying to them or unknowingly working with information that is all based on lies. Simply put: Because they do not believe in the science underlying such a test, any given outcome doesn't mean anything to them.

[@dannygjk]

Exactly, that is one point I have stated to people who think it would be easy to prove something to a conspiracy theorist.

[@whysprs]

The really stupid side is they will refuse to even attempt to try and figure it out for themselves via viable options or say they want to see research that is mainstream, yet tell you at the same time that they want you to present published facts from some mainstream deal that they just said was unreliable. Basicly they talk out of both sides of thier mouths and still will butt heads with you regardless. Its how they are taught to have the conversation for evidence which is actually self defeating. They also want it all spoon fed to them. As I stated in another comment, its like a cult religion and they have been brainwashed into it by thier own doing.

[@thesciencefurry]

Also the test isn't that simple. You need to buy the trinitide and either buy or rent an gamma spectrometer. And even then what you said still applies. They could think, all the trinitide samples are fake.

[@16rumpole]

it's not just that they don't believe it, it's that they don't understand it. They have no ability to abstract.

[@techleontius9161]

Conspiracy theories are fascinating. They magically convert disproval into proof and become stronger.

[@apawhite]

Like many conspiracy theories, this is a textbook case of "The real world is terrifying and complicated, so I choose to exist in a reality where things are simple and controlled instead."

[@ldawg7117]

Yep, small minded weakness/cowardice.

[@NeightrixPrime]

That's... usually the opposite of how it is. Normies don't believe in globalist goals, don't believe covid was manmade.

[@mrjpb23]

Owen Benjamin is a special brand of eejit. He’s an F-tier “comedian” who sucks at piano and can’t sing, yet tries to make those a hallmark of his act. He’s one of those guys who wouldn’t sell a single seat were it not for the brain damaged “anti woke” crowd that will clap like trained seals at the mere utterance of certain key-phrases and tropes they foam at the mouth over. One time I told him his singing sounded like a dog being drowned in a bathtub and he called me a pedophile and then blocked me 😂 He’s easily triggered.

[@julius43461]

Almost all people live like that to some extent. Conspiracy theorists just have their own flavor of delusion. The things that keep us going, or the life hacks as I call them are illusions we invent or come to believe as reality comes knocking on our door, and the world turns out to be much harsher than we ever imagined, just like you said. Some of these are extremely fundamental for our everyday existence, and we never question them at all, like free will for example. We also go through our lives assuming everyone else is conscious just like us, when we have no proof of that being the case. If I were to be purely scientific, then solipsism should be my default, but I don't like that and I find the idea that everyone is conscious more convenient.

[@daexion]

@@ldawg7117 A percentage, maybe half, are likely trolls because it amuses them just like the Flat Earth club is most likely just a bunch of bored trolls as it was when it first started a few centuries ago.

[@seanbordenkircher7854]

I read once "People who think conspiracy theories are real have never had to helm a group project, their faith in other people is adorable."

[@triciac.5078]

As a project manager, I laugh at the level of coordination these conspiracies would take.

[@majorramsey3k]

Some conspiracy theories end up being true. Not all are created equal.

[@robonator2945]

and I once read that the earth is flat, doesn't make it true. These arguments completely fail the second you remember the Snowden leaks. You know, the leaks that only happened because one guy who was already disillusioned with the government happened to wind up in a dead end position that no-one knew about that still somehow had completely unrestricted access to highly restricted government documents? Sure, it got revealed, by pure dumb luck, so if you're counting that in your favour then that's not an argument at all it's just begging the question, "any conspiracy theory that got revealed did so because of incompetence, and since all conspiracy theories we know are true got revealed, that means 100% of known true conspiracy theories failed due to incompetence, that means any conspiracy will inevitably fail due to incompetence" Real conspiracies exist sure, but the majority of 'conspiracies' now are literally just 'the government might not be telling the truth actually'. It's a word that's been overexpanded to the point of meaninglessness so these arguments don't work anymore. They only ever worked in *_any_* capacity because what was classified as a conspiracy was narrow enough to require the discretion of tens to even hundreds of millions of people who all knew the whole story and all chose not to reveal it. However, isolation of information is at the heart of most actual government operations, with only a few people knowing enough of the story to know what's really happening, and all of those people having great personal incentives to not reveal it. (again, see Snowden leaks where this *_exact_* thing happened)

[@vast9467]

@@majorramsey3k they’re not conspiracy theories if they’re true

[@piscessoedroen]

​​@@vast9467they were conspiracy theories until they were proven true. Though tbf conspiracy theories that hinges on world goverment (especially ones that are against each others) doing something together that would really benefit one of them if they reveal it to the public is very, very stupid

[@kovanova9409]

Invisible stuff isn't hard. I find it quite clear.

[@DetectiveWraith]

Ow

[@kovanova9409]

@@DetectiveWraith indeed

[@kovanova9409]

@@DetectiveWraith I share in your pain

[@cameroncorrado3935]

Underrated comment

[@erikopnemer]

Normally I'd say "I see what you did there" but it seems that I can't.

[@WorldofSoupS]

I don't believe in Canada because I've never been there

[@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052]

ever met anxone from canada? didnt think so. Drake is the only canadian ive ever heard of and he got fuckin atomized by kdot

[@Callie_Cosmo]

I don’t believe anything exists unless it is within my ~85 degree view cone, and even that is tenuous :/

[@jrgussngussn7093]

I believe in canada... but there are no pokemon there.

[@KJames2345]

I don't believe in the United Kingdom, and I live in England.

[@DaNinja60]

How do we know there is an East without ever being able to walk east to reach it?

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

Remember when we thought people were only stupid because of their lack of access to information and education?

[@andrewcharles459]

Those were good times.

[@chrisgage1051]

I would say intelligence these days revolves around the ability to quickly and correctly piece things together.

[@PostalHeathen]

Yeah, it wasn't that.

[@OriginBullet]

There is more bad information than good now and people only comsume information that confirms their preexisting bias.

[@eartheater2]

I mean boenhoffers theory about stupidity disproves that. Simple said it suggest that stupidity is something people use to never grow up bc u don't try to prove something urself u just follow something that some people say and block every other information to not get consequences. Like a child

[@LoneWolf343]

Far too many people believe that the fact that you don't fully understand something is proof that it is faked. Smart enough to question what they see, but not smart enough to go find the answer.

[@wakomikro]

I like this

[@munchkingod6]

1000% this. Anti-Vax, Flat Earth, QAnon, and right wing economics. All easily disproved idiotic ideas that people keep endorsing because they’re too stupid to understand how things work or they refuse to learn.

[@realzachfluke1]

This is an especially spot on characterization of the phenomenon we're talking about here.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Don't forget too stupid to realize the standard of proof isn't "see with my own eyes".

[@PumpedSmartass]

Thats how dumb they are

[@animistchannel]

Kinda late, but fun fact: steel from pre-1945 shipwrecks is actually extra valuable, because metal smelted after the nuclear age started has small amounts of radioactive / isotopic contamination that is very difficult/expensive to eliminate. This older steel that was already smelted and then protected by lots of water is prized for use in highly sensitive scientific and medical scanning equipment.

[@nicholasholloway8743]

That's cool to know, so basically old as shipwrecks, if you salvaged one , should get you a good amount?

[@Noubers]

@@nicholasholloway8743 It's less than you think, since there are ways to produce new steel without nuclear impurities, its just expensive, but the cost is justifiable for things made that are so sensitive to those impurities that its negligible in the grand scheme of the product being produced.

[@snowhusky6689]

I was waiting for him to mention this lol

[@spvillano]

The water didn't protect the steel from radiation or well, anything, save from being already recycled for cheap before anyone realized the value of low radiation steel. That said, steel from newly mined ore can be smelted without introducing contamination, the process involved dedicated crucibles, special furnaces that are sealed and either noble gas filled or vacuum chamber based and well, ridiculously expensive overall to operate. It's also how that low radiation steel gets recycled without contamination. And absolutely necessary for things like radiology, which I'm sure those idiots will insist also doesn't exist.

[@sonofandria4636]

There are people who think the earth is flat… are we really surprised about people thinking nukes are fake?

[@OccultistResearcher]

there are people that think austrailia doesn't exist

[@ronaldvancrombrugge1851]

Visiting Hiroshima was one of the most profound experiences I've ever had. This conspiracy is so insulting to all the victims.

[@tonyversus9787]

When I went it looked like a nice city.

[@lightningleopard8877]

I was going to say something similar like. Go ask Hiroshima they’ll tell if they are real or not

[@Masterbaiter1000]

Cool bro that's called an atomic bomb. To think they could make something worse than that is the conspiracy. Js.

[@plasmicgoat7749]

That's the first thing I thought of when I saw this video, denying the existence of nuclear weapons is an insult to every single person who has been effected by them.

[@davidbgooch9587]

​@@plasmicgoat7749hey there are people who don't believe the Holocaust happened so yea I can believe there are people who would believe this also

[@chadb9270]

Never, ever underestimate the ability of a stupid person to deny evidence directly in their face.

[@chadb9270]

I have a sister that thinks the Earth is flat and a mother that believes in literal magic…..

[@asherstribe5695]

@@chadb9270so what’s the problem? seems like they have it figured out.

[@Takyodor2]

@@chadb9270 So sorry to hear that!

[@MrClickity]

​@@chadb9270 funniest part about the flat earth nonsense is that it wouldn't just require every single agency of every single government to coordinate, it would require a whole bunch of civilians to be in on it, too. Every long haul ship's captain would need to be in on it. Every pilot would need to be in on it. Hell, everyone who lives near the ocean and has seen large ships leave would need to be in on it, too.

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

@@chadb9270yeah, I’ve got a step-mom who thinks crystals give you powers

[@96Houndoom]

these people play too much Fallout and now think nukes are made up because there are no wastelands

[@nicholasholloway8743]

Those idiots need to realize that the fallout universe is based on MAD, which means everyone nukes everyone, which would indeed make a fallout like planet.

[@quirinoguy8665]

Don't worry, once some Chinese tomfoolery escalates and WWIII actually happens, they'll be regretting everything they said when they become Ghouls.

[@spvillano]

You've obviously never saw the Nevada test site. Some parts are open to the public now, it remains a wasteland, despite those opened sections being cleaned up at ridiculous expense.

[@spvillano]

@@nicholasholloway8743 actually, the entire series is hyperbole anyway. The main fallout from actual nukes lasts pretty much two weeks or so, the cesium-137 and strontium-90 being actually in small quantities, as there isn't all that much fissionables actually fissioned inside of a nuke - it's actually one of the main selling points. It's fission, not Harry Potter's magical fuck stick.

[@JasonAtlas]

Nuclear bombs are real and to prove it I've built one in my shed.

[@bschleevs2723]

well my extensive knowledge of jet engines and nukes doesnt put me on a watch list like you bro you are on the visit and apprehend list

[@spvillano]

@@bschleevs2723 meh, I could trivially build a nuclear warhead right inside of my apartment. If it doesn't contain explosives or fissile elements, nobody will care. Literally. That'll not happen though, as for one, it'd still be quite massive and I'd not want to have to shift the damned thing around when cleaning my apartment and well, I have a small apartment and only keep useful things around. Like that Americium-241 source sitting over here, just harvested from a recently defunct smoke detector. I'll be throwing together a cloud chamber in the coming weeks, just to have something to do. A little for the cloud chamber, a little for me... ;) Yeah, I actually took the source from a dead smoke detector for that purpose. Boy, have they shrunk the source by a lot over the last 20 years! The source on this one is a quarter the size of an old model, pretty much the rest of the circuitry was literally the same, down to the chip driving the unit.

[@cocomier]

Wat

[@chrisfromsouthaus2735]

While I haven't seen a nuke first hand either, when I was younger, I knew a man who served at the Maralinga test sight. In 2003, I sat down, and interviewed him for a high school assignment. He said that seeing a nuke was like looking God in the eye. Utterly humbling.

[@TheWebstaff]

I'd argue it's his bum hole after a vindaloo.

[@johnnyb2909]

Seeing a weapon as god is the most american thing i have ever heard :D

[@Averagesonarian]

@@johnnyb2909As it should be.

[@breannathompson9094]

@@johnnyb2909 that is a gross misinterpretation to how most of humanity saw it, not just the americans were involved. The guys in the upper echelons of the military for both sides of ww2 were in love with it. Not the rest of us. It is more like seeing a god come reign destruction for the horrible shit humanity has done. Should have been a real wake up call, not something to worship.

[@erictheepic5019]

I'm reminded of a quote from Larry Niven's *Footfall,* wherein a spacecraft uses an Orion Drive (AKA Nuclear Pulsed Propulsion) which produces thrust from atomic bombs going off a few hundred feet behind the craft, the blast of which is absorbed by a massive steel plate at the back of the craft. When the ship was under thrust (continuously detonating nukes every few seconds), one of the characters described the sound thusly: "God was knocking, and he wanted in *bad."*

[@DoguDoge]

My mom used to tell me nukes dont exist to stop me worrying, but I wasnt worried, my small little child brain thought the idea of a bomb that could destroy a city was cool as hell

[@Kepesk]

I mean, it is cool as hell.

[@speenta4879]

@@Kepesk specifically 11-22 degrees cool

[@appa609]

Don't let life get you down. Nukes are rad!

[@TheManinBlack9054]

Nukes are horrible. I wish they didn't exist.

[@RackemDawg]

I mean, psychopathy can show up early I guess.

[@WitchidWitchid]

I was caught off guard when I first saw comments claiming that nuclear weapons, nuclear energy, atomic radiation, etc. is fake. At first I thought it was just one lone nutcase.making such absurd claims. Then when I saw it parroted by others I realized that I discovered yet another crackpot conspiracy.

[@nicholasholloway8743]

We really should just call these ppl idiots because actual conspiracy theorist have been correct on alot of shit lately, I mean look at what's been happening? 😔 Ignoring ALL evidence doesn't make them conspiracy theorist lol, if they ain't bothering to research anything and blindly following a narrative.

[@WitchidWitchid]

@@nicholasholloway8743 Throughout history there have been conspiracy theories that have turned out to be correct. However, these fringe conspiracies thet depend on things like mass participation by millions of people, or, centuries of knowledge is all lies, or vast brainwashing of everyone on earth or, secret science that nobody knows about, conspiracies that laxk any evidence, etc. are almost always false. Examples are the "nuclear is fake", "flat earth", "chemtrails", etc.

[@levicoffman5146]

I think Rule 36 of the Internet Rules is "if it exists, there is a conspiracy theory that it doesn't".

[@thomasrogers8239]

I feel like this conspiracy has the same energy as the "birds arent real" conspiracy. Asking if anyone has seen a nuke is the new asking if anyone has seen a baby pigeon. Of course you haven't.

[@robertchungus4824]

To be fair, birds aren’t real started as a parody of flat earthers

[@Fleato]

That’s cause pretty much all conspiracy are on that same level lol. It’s brain dead idiots who want to pretend they are smart by having some secret alternate knowledge which makes them smarter than every other person on earth. (Of course not a single one of these people have ever produced a single mathematic representation of any claim they ever make about science)

[@MeeBacon]

People actually believed that? I thought it was all a joke.

[@NikeaTiber]

Ask Mike Tyson if he has ever seen a baby pidgeon and tell him that birds aren't real and see what he says (Mike Tyson raises homing pidgeons) Also, if birds aren't real then where do eggs come from?

[@quinsutton7097]

I've actually seen a baby pigeon; pigeons made a nest above the door frame at our camp.

[@AwTickStick]

You gotta love it when they forget we had telescopes back then. And cameras can look through them too.

[@SonsOfDeForest]

a camera that was several miles away would have to also be several miles in the air for it to show the house from that angle.

[@AwTickStick]

@@SonsOfDeForest I am willing to bet you that is not the case.

[@ianobrien3248]

In bunkers even!

[@Dead-Not-Sleeping]

​@@SonsOfDeForestno. Do the freakin' math.

[@ricomock2]

​@@SonsOfDeForest How many miles away are you claiming the camera was, and at what angle are you claiming it was viewed from

[@MacCoy]

those cameras during the tests werent like 5 dollar go pros on a stick left in the open. one would asume they were shielded in their own bunker like contraption.

[@jackdbur]

With the film inside lead boxes!

[@qhu3878]

and a good few of them were vaporized, often early tests and notably castle bravo vaporised a few, they were incredible feats of engineering, these people dont need answers from the government they need a basic education

[@erikopnemer]

If those cameras were Mitchells they would survive the sun going nova.

[@greatestcait]

Now the real question is who's stupider: the flat earthers, or the nuke denialists?

[@frantaspacek]

flat earthers. it's always the flat earthers.

[@dontforgetyoursunscreen]

One believes most of the universe doesn't exist and the other believes a small portion of the universe doesn't exist

[@flydrop8822]

100% the flat earthers. Even explorers during the time Jesus was born knew the Earth has a rounded shape and had a bunch of equipment designed for navigation and observation like spyglasses, compasses, astrolabes, maps, etc. You can literally tell the Earth is not flat by having a fucking spyglass and looking at the horizon, or just taking a long trip and marking down the route taken on a map. Flat Earth theory isn't denying modern science, it's denying basic ass common knowledge from millenia ago. Radiation on the other hand is a much more mysterious phenomenon by comparison. The first scientists who studied it had 0 clue what they were witnessing, and it fundamentally changed the way we study matter in general because of all the things we learned from it. While nowadays we have a bunch of knowledge about it and it's relatively easy to get your hands on a Geiger counter and measure it, it still remains something that is a lot more hidden from view, and unless you are an actual scientist, dismissing it doesn't change much the way you look at things in your life, especially if you are not dismissing the concept of radiation as a whole but only the usage of it in weapons. I once had a portuguese teacher who denied the man walked on the moon. Obviously she was wrong and crazy, but aside from that she was a normal person. A flat-earther will have trouble even replying basic things in a job interview, if they truly believe in the flat-earth theory (a lot of them actually dont, they are just trolls).

[@nigelhirth2181]

"Why wasn't the camera destroyed?" Are telephoto lenses a government coverup too now?

[@Macky2Tacky]

Conspiracists main defense to a genuine argument is always "B-but the government made u think that🥺" or "The government is lying😡" You could show them hard evidence and their only defense would be that its fake, and when you ask them why it's fake they give you an answer equivalent to "Just cuz"

[@RBrown-uk4xt]

It's like saying that all plane crashes are fake because a real crash would have destroyed the flight data recorder. Ignoring that some do, and that the FDR is specially made to withstand crashes. Only to get the response of, "Well, why don't they make the entire plane out of the same stuff?!" 😵‍💫

[@gatling216]

Big Photo doesn't want you to know that you can see things from really far away like they're close up. Don't believe the lies, man. Big Geology says you can't eat lava, too, but they're just trying to keep us from the truth.

[@GrifHowe]

And they can easily look it up and find out the cameras were buried, and using light from mirrors via a periscope like device. It's just more fun to make up interesting BS than looking up the reality. This is a big problem in our society right now.

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

@@GrifHowe Then we have the problem that is particular to politically-charged topics where people don't want to believe statistics etc because the cognitive dissonance kicks in and all of a sudden percentages are somehow "'racist" or whatever. It's sad how widespread this sort of "willing" ignorance is, it's everywhere.

[@Dennyh025]

I never knew there were people who think nuclear weapons don't exist, that's just insane.

[@Ryanisthere]

there are people that think the earth is flat

[@Nocommentsuwu]

​@@Ryanisthere😂

[@Myrgard]

I can one up you even more disgusting: holocaust deniers...

[@whysix3417]

I didn't know either until I started seeing comments on KZbin videos talking about ww3.

[@NPCSpotter]

Me neither. I just now found this out from this video and I’m chronically online

[@bland9876]

Wasn't Finland made up for that one sponge bob joke?

[@CrimsonWolf1775]

I mean Finland is a joke and Finland doesn't exist. ;P

[@bland9876]

@@CrimsonWolf1775 is everybody there named Fin?

[@theplayer1997]

Simo sends his regards.

[@CrimsonWolf1775]

@@theplayer1997 Simo is long dead, what else you got? Oh, thats right, nothing.

[@CrimsonWolf1775]

@@bland9876 I'm no stranger to sarcasm.

[@Lord_eBatts]

If nukes don't exist, then WHY does Nevada look like mega-scale Swiss cheese from space?

[@moonpigeon9]

Space ain't real cuzz not no globe earth

[@theplayer1997]

​@@moonpigeon9 real?1?1?1?!!

[@nunyabaznus7851]

Stacks of TNT piled onto a single area and detonated would produce the same effect. The military has high yield explosive devices that they do regularly test, and do produce large craters.

[@moonpigeon9]

@@nunyabaznus7851 this not Minecraft

[@erikopnemer]

Plot twist: it actually is swiss cheese

[@Loreignss]

There is a story of a Japanese guy who got hit by both nukes, and its absolutely insane. Guy went to work after being nuked and tried to explain to his bosses what happened and literally got caught in the second one.

[@peterbs5555]

Bro what?

[@SnakeChkn]

Tsutomo Yamaguchi should be the name of the guy- not sure- look him up.

[@Loreignss]

Yeah just google it, there is an audio story about it in great detail on the "ridiculous history" podcast I believe, but its an outlandish story@@peterbs5555

[@joseberger7737]

the bosses did not believe him, and then as they were calling him crazy the second bomb cut of their sentence and less than 2 days later their lives

[@cheekybastard9312]

Japan sure did learn their lesson on Good Ole Murica Freedom

[@kurotenshi1973]

Sir Terry Pratchett summed up conspiracy theories most succinctly and eloquently. “It's amazing how good governments are, given their track records in almost every other field, at hushing up things like alien encounters."

[@granatmof]

MKUltra. Massive CIA lead medical research without informed consent at hundreds of hospitals and universities across the US and Canada. The only reason why we know anything about it was a single box of 20,000 files were misplaced and avoided being incinerated.

[@billyumbraskey8135]

ummm, have you been paying attention to the last few years? this is a weird example to use at this point...

[@karnickel-s33d16]

That's one of the reasons conspiracy theories are so popular. We've seen the government fail at hiding so many things, who knows what they've succeeded at hiding. I believe that if all governments were completely open and forthcoming to their constituents about what they've done and what they know, there would be very few conspiracy theories, or at least a lot less conspiracy theories.

[@dereknoto6555]

@@billyumbraskey8135 Put the meth down, Billy

[@gbonkers666]

or "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand." Milton Friedman

[@TemptationsEnd]

I’m legitimately confused how people think nukes don’t exist. So what the heck do you think Putin is theatening to use every other month? A tacpack of puppies?! 😂

[@theplayer1997]

Definitely a tacpack of puppies.

[@jeffnealjr9543]

These are probably the same people who claim that the holocaust isn't real either

[@promethium2302]

Yea

[@vibaj16]

confirmed by the comment section

[@CrimsonWolf1775]

Nope most of them do believe in that.

[@eligoldman9200]

It’s weird that people see a tweet from a stranger they don’t know and think damn that’s more trustworthy than any expert or news source that exists and no one can convince me otherwise.

[@jaredf6205]

I think because it clicks something for them and makes them feel special.

[@adamcummings20]

Makes them feel like a character in a scifi drama

[@Diogenes_von_Sinope]

((( expert or news source )))

[@RetroProg]

@@jaredf6205 well, most of them really are a bit "Special"....

[@aoki6332]

conspirationist in a nutshell pretty much anti vax and autism they use the work of a guys in that created this narrative to pretty much sell his own vaccine all his research was debunked yet people still use is work as proof when the dude never said that all vaccine cause autism just a certain one that why they should use a new one that weirdly enough he invested a lot of money into it

[@nemo-x]

Calling internet devices "depression generators" is just about the best thing i've ever seen on this channel. Thank you Kyle!

[@mwinesight9048]

[@xBurzurkurx]

It really is. Luscious hair, not so luscious logic. Bahahahaha. Oops sorry depression generator alert. Better listen to the guy from the depression generator and stop now. Wut?

[@RottenHeretic]

What?@@xBurzurkurx

[@the_kombinator]

or Anger generators.

[@mcbr9127]

Timestamp?

[@billberg1264]

Conspiracy theorists aren't real. Everyone who claims to believe in a conspiracy theory is just trolling you.

[@RicochetMayhem]

Are you American?

[@billberg1264]

@@RicochetMayhem Americans aren't real. Everyone who claims to be American is just trolling you.

[@funnydude69]

billberg1264 doesn't exist. Everyone who claims to be one is just trolling you.

[@spvillano]

Stop being silly, conspiracy theorists are real! Birds aren't real! I'll just get my hat...

[@poison-alarm.mp3]

The only country that exists in the world is Russia because i've only been in Russia(and Belarus but that doesn't count) and everything is being faked by Russian government

[@operation4wheelz]

People think Australia doesn’t exist…

[@C.RDingo]

I know mate. Hurts.

[@theplayer1997]

​@@C.RDingo it is a harsh emvironment. Could you blame em? I mean the entirety of australia is just, black air force energy.

[@ultimazilla9814]

Honestly, that is pretty understandable. There is literally a plant there that makes you want to end your own life.

[@JoKingMemer]

it doesnt

[@operation4wheelz]

@@JoKingMemer I’m sitting in it

[@justicefool3942]

Another reason why the cameras weren't vaporized was because they were also much farther away than they appeared. They used telescopic lenses to zoom in on specific points.

[@habilterserah4075]

That's what the government would say. You paid actor

[@Draconiangem]

@@habilterserah4075 payed reply commenter 😆

[@destro6424]

@@habilterserah4075 I certainly hope that's a joke😂

[@di99utpe]

But since the fotage is on the blast side, would'nt that place the cameras closer? I imagine that the engineers and scientists setting this up where no dummies. They knew what they where dealing with and could just build a concrete shelter with proper shielding for the camera and other equipment.

[@Noubers]

@@di99utpe A lot were placed on metal poles with lead shielded camera boxes and a quartz glass window. The poles had guy wires bracing them. Also most of the cameras extremely close to the blast were not filming the blast themselves, but were filming effects targets (like houses, vehicles, entrenchments, etc.) so they were pointed away from the most intense heat. You can see some of these camera boxes in footage from other cameras filming the same test targets. It's not particularly hard to build something that can survive a shockwave and the heat flash (even pretty close to the hypocenter).

[@Chlorate299]

The amount of nuclear bomb testing in the 40s-60s actually increased the global background radiation by a measurable amount - this lead to problems with the manufacture of sensitive radiation detectors as any steel used in the construction would be contaminated by radioactive particles from the atmosphere (most steel at the time would have been made by the Bessemer process, which injects air into liquid pig iron to decarbonise it). There was actually a black market for "low-background steel" harvested from pre-1949 shipwrecks for a while because of this.

[@demoncet1998]

China has been getting in to trouble for scrapping European WW2 shipwrecks for the low background steel. Though they have been actively avoiding American shipwrecks.

[@MrThhg]

@@demoncet1998it’s used for stuff like geiger counters, etc.

[@maltheri9833]

​@@demoncet1998They'd have to venture closer into the Pacific and I'm sure they aren't ready to crack that can of worms considering it'd rile up the American people. They need the people distracted and disinterested

[@ArtoPekkanen]

This is interesting. Had no idea background radion was elevated so much as to effect the detectors :O

[@greenhaloxbox3850]

This is a large reason for the WW1 German navy sank off the coast of Scotland not having many ships left to dive to. Sad really

[@jjtheblanketyblankblank770]

Until I saw your thumbnail, I never once heard the conspiracy that nukes don’t exist.

[@mrmale9985]

Well you heard it now 🤨

[@kingfairytale4306]

Same here, generally every person I spoke with about it said how Rad or terrifying it is to them, but none have ever denied their existence because they didn't understand it!

[@chalkeater1427]

As far as I know, it's not that Finland doesn't exist, it just statistically might not exist. It's population is roughly equivalent to the margin of error or the total human population.

[@MrShifty1]

This implies there may statistically be a second Finland, somewhere out in the world.

[@JarieSuicune]

@@MrShifty1 That would be a MUCH more interesting conspiracy theory. Still stupid, but interesting.

[@internetlurker1850]

@MrShifty1 yeah I'll add that to my belief system.

[@oshawott4544]

The fact that these people believe the bombs aren't real, instead of the cameras being in specialized housings, and far away from the explosion, is truly baffling to me. It feels like true NPC behavior.

[@joeogle7729]

It's peak conspiracy theory logic isn't it. I once had some fun annoying some flat earthers and they tried to whip out the Michelson - Morley experiment. Now as we know, that experiment has 2 conclusions. Either, a stationary aether (ancient space medium) is most likely bollocks or the Earth doesn't spin. So naturally which one do you think they chose...

[@YOU_CANT_BE_THAT_STUPID]

There was some fake footage used as a psy-op on Russia but still...

[@jaydenwilson9522]

@@joeogle7729 ..... they only debunked a stationary medium, not a dynamic one. Also even Einstein created GR to put the aether back into science, he just called it a different name dude.

[@nocturn9x]

​@@jaydenwilson9522 what? Aether and GR have fuck all in common. GR assumes space is a perfect vacuum

[@greenblood1211]

i believe nukes are real, however there are some inconsistencies in those test videos, like cars not being there, then right after the blast a car suddenly appears. which is probably why people don't believe them to be real.

[@Jeffrythesheep1]

my god, a friend and I were drunk one night coming up with really dumb conspiracy theories and this one was what broke both of us into a giggle fit. Now seeing people actually believe this makes its 10x funnier.

[@timolynch149]

Considering that people with access to nearly all the accumulated knowledge of humanity via devices they carry around in their pockets it is even more crazy to see that there are people out there who genuinely believe the earth is flat or 6,000 years old or that there was a "mud flood".

[@Zidbits]

@@timolynch149 The benefit of that is obvious; the entire world's knowledge in your pocket. 30 years ago, that would have been science fiction from Star Trek. The drawback is that conspiracy theories and general craziness gets spewed to every corner of the globe. Back in my day, that one crazy uncle who thinks unicorns are real and the moon landing was a hoax was kept sequestered away from society by their family. Now that same person not only can spread their ignorance but find a sizeable audience.

[@mr.jamster8414]

​@@timolynch149that's it, isn't it? Information Warfare.

[@mr.jamster8414]

​@@timolynch149infowars... heh heh

[@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan]

Yeah, but birds aren't real.

[@bracey191]

other countries don't exist, it's all just people hearing costumes and doing funny voices

[@henrysanecdotes5323]

The plane takes you to mars where they made tons of sets to make you think other countries are real while traveling. That’s also why flights get delayed, it’s the actors sleeping in and needing time to get ready

[@Salaundre]

I went to both Nagasaki and Hiroshima and it is amazing how those cities have come back from such destruction. Seeing the memorials and museums were pretty harrowing. I didn’t get to go to the Hiroshima museum but did go to the Nagasaki one. So many melted artifacts and literature talking about it. The Hypocenter still have some of what was left and it isn’t much. Just a pillar from a church arch. That entire area is a memorial for what happened.

[@kaipakta817]

Imagine living in Vegas in the 60s, seeing the bomb tests down South during your lunch break, and then talking to these people.

[@ryann935]

To be fair, seeing a giant explosion doesnt prove anything.......no i dont believe theyrefake, this just isnt proof

[@omstout]

Working in Vegas 1960 so a 20 year old would be about 84 years old today...So Dementia is a thing...( Joke! But how old is President Biden (not joking))

[@TheLeftHookLBC]

Umm the nuclear test range is to the north of Vegas. Not the South.

[@gemmapeter7173]

Those bombs were clearly destroyed in those tests, what makes you think there are others? Why not fake having a nuclear deterrent? All the benefits none of the costs or accident potential.

[@SlumberBear2k]

they exploded conventional munitions and detonated radioactive material but they didn't actually have atomic bombs. they were dirty bombs with the intention of creation fission, not actual atomic bombs like we are taught. the explosions underwater were detonations of cold war stockpiles. don't be afraid of questioning things just because some wanker calls you stupid of a conspiracy theorist. people that call you stupid or a conspiracy theorist are cowards.

[@thatonedude5237]

I kind of feel like the more people forget exactly how devastating these things are the closer we get to doing it all again.

[@happy_waves9786]

Unpopular opinion: The US should do a public nuclear test every few years to remined the country just how world ending those weapons are.

[@MisterFanwank]

Fear doesn't last forever, nor should it. You can't live in paralysis.

[@gelo1238]

Its like with war. There is no peace without war.

[@nero5971]

⁠@@gelo1238you’re mistaken, there can always be peace without violence, it’s just that the peace appears greater in contrast to the horrors of war…

[@nikolaimcfly6883]

Never happened in the first place though...

[@HusKrWolf]

Where tf did they think the Japanese got the idea for Godzilla? Not to mention the 2 big ones that were dropped on them. And the loads of documentaries about nukes

[@JOpethNYC]

"Do stupid people even really exist???" Yes, yes they do.

[@rigrmortis3393]

Never underestimate how far people will go to make themselves feel special. "I know the truth! All of you are wrong."

[@jamesmnguyen]

People want to feel unique and choose something that goes against what a majority of people agree upon.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

​@@jamesmnguyenI miss when that used to mean just "yeah no yo see I've never watched game of thrones and I think breaking bad was overrated" Simpler times ...

[@zetsu6888]

​@@matheussanthiago9685well those werent simpler times, there still were just as many conspiracy theories and people denying known fact, youre just more able to see it because of how much information is visible now

[@Retrovorious]

Maybe these conspiracy theorists should be placed on a planet somewhere by themselves so they can see how special they are.

[@robotnoir5299]

So you're saying... you know the truth about how they all think, and they are all wrong? ERROR# Infinite loop, memory exceeded.

[@Artemyst]

The fact that we can have so many people that think war, nukes and radiation is fake, in todays age where we have an unlimited amount of information at our fingertips is mind boggling.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Just like the Flat Earth movement around the globe.

[@gideonmele1556]

We can have libraries but getting people in there let alone read the books are other matters… and even then it might be reading something else

[@kellywalker1664]

Waiting for toenail truthers. 😑

[@user-xn6dw6tt5x]

Go watch the test video yourself, keep an eye on the car behind the house. Yall are caught red handed ... again.

[@vtubersubs3803]

@@user-xn6dw6tt5xOk boomer time for your nap

[@redengineer4320]

you will never convince me the Finland is real.

[@The_great_M0N0LITH]

True it doesn't exist like bielefeld.

[@The_great_M0N0LITH]

We need a dispenser here

[@matthewboire6843]

“Nuclear bombs don’t exist” man I wish that was true, everyone reasonable does.

[@Manxeli]

As a person who has lived in Finland for all my life, ~35 years... It always makes me giggle when someone believes we dont exist 😂 Darn it, my life is a lie 😖

[@vardaruus5243]

no, you're just a paid actor bruh

[@Manxeli]

​need to ask for my paycheck then, havent received mine for many many years 🤔@@vardaruus5243

[@flameguy3416]

Prove it by telling me every single place in Finland. See? You cannot do it because it is not a real country.

[@CodeLife_12]

How much did THEY pay you to write this!? Admit it! We all know the truth!

[@awmperry]

Finland can't exist. Who, after all, could possibly believe there's an entire country where people eat salmiakki?

[@thecheese8145]

I worked as a Nuclear Reactor technician for 5 years and we had a security guard who swore that we were actually working on an Alien spaceship in containment.

[@patrickcardon1643]

Don't know how you managed NOT to pull different pranks on him ... I would have a hard time resisting dropping small clues every now and then

[@Dubmaster3]

​@@patrickcardon1643I would have found a costume and ran out and have the scientists chase me screaming about me escaping.

[@TheoRae8289]

...

[@nayriin9161]

Shoulda muttered nearby with your workfriends about "Subject Zeta"

[@user-vm9mv3zu8j]

Oh, so you met my dad..... My dad swore he was area 51. I learned a long time ago, he has a LOT of interesting stories, 90% fake, but interesting none the less.

[@danieldempsey8297]

When did everything go so wrong and people because so stupid?

[@the_pelican_real]

in the very beginning

[@terrencebreed4839]

Just wait until these conspiracy theorists hear that the atomic bomb was made before the first commercial nuclear reactor.

[@bloodyneptune]

I love that clip of Buzz clocking that heckling conspiracy theorist. Imagine getting laid out by a 90 year old and not being able to do a thing, either. What're they gonna do, arrest _Buzz Aldrin?_ Are you gunna punch a elderly man? Of course not, and Buzz knew it and moon punched him

[@arcturionblade1077]

Pow, straight to the moon!

[@barrishautomotive]

Buzz Aldrin is my hero.

[@archentity]

He sent him to infinity, and beyond!...

[@myrcutio]

I think this incident should be a national holiday to recognize scientific achievement. Lies should be met with the swift fist of overwhelming evidence.

[@RyukyuStyle]

Idk, seems like a pussy move. Hit someone because you know they can't legally or morally hit you back. While refusing to do a simple thing in which every single one of them react the same way. And now we suddenly don't have the technology to go to the moon again? I am not saying we didn't go, I am saying these are valid questions, and considering the last 3 years you would think people would give a little more credit to 'conspiracy theorist' whether it was the 'island' of which we still don't have a client list, or thing related to the epidemic, or how about the government is now coming out telling everyone 'yep aliens are real, we have spacecraft, and non-human biologic bodies' people are to devastated economically and socially at this point to even care. But they were all mocked the same way, so I think it does a disservice to the truth to be dismissive and mock people who question things just because you disagree and believe what you are told. You act like there isn't any reason to question anything because they never lie, keep information compartmentalized, and exploit crisis for profit at the expense of regular people, who are shunned for point things out we know to be truths. Remember when Twitter banned anyone who questioned the epidemic, or retweeted the Hunter Biden laptop story? I do. Not that I have time to care. But I wont pretend that these are proven facts now, and Kyle starts out buy mocking Elon buying Twitter, a social media company who actively engaged in pushing falsified information and suppressing truthful information in order to craft and social engineer an agenda. Denying and mocking these facts just make conspiracy theorist more credible. And conspiracy theorist and the theories themselves are growing in numbers, not dissolving as you would predict with access to information and connection on a global scale via the internet. I think a lot of conspiracy are valid questions that deserve valid answers, but instead of valid answers, they are often just shunned and mocked. The more time that passes, they more they are either proven correct, or incorrect. But certainly questioning information is not as harmful as suppressing information.

[@theangryMD]

Nuclear weapons don't exist? I'm consistently reaffirmed in my notion that there should be a competency test before you're allowed to use the internet.

[@frantaspacek]

it doesn't even have to be a test, a simple third grade quiz would be enough to kick millions from the internet

[@rachelleintexas338]

Or vote, or breed, etc…

[@varnix1006]

Suddenly eugenics sounds a lot less horrible.

[@user-ee9cz6mc1x]

His parents definitely failed the pre pregnacy cognitive competency test, this should have been taken care of at te root. And not now the sickly plant has "matured"

[@Qwentar]

Hear, hear!

[@leeames9063]

Conspiracy theorists is just one of several or more reasons we need to improve STEM education in our public schools.

[@godzilla964]

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a conspiracy that air isn’t real.

[@stevec3223]

I'm beginning to think this isn't a conspiracy theory but instead is a coping mechanism for extinction. If you hide under the covers and can't see the monster then the monster doesn't exist and can't get you 😂

[@flameguy3416]

I mean why would nuclear physics be a conspiracy? To whom would it benefit? Regular people barely even think about physics let alone nuclear physics, and who would be in on it? Some conspiracy theories are legitimately logical, but this is just bizarre.

[@fedos]

Owen Benjamin spreads, and even makes up, conspiracy theories for money and attention.

[@pugasaurusrex8253]

@@flameguy3416 This is one of the weirdest conspiracies to defend tbh

[@zanemob1429]

@@pugasaurusrex8253He isn’t?

[@pugasaurusrex8253]

@@zanemob1429 That was a general statement. I’m agreeing with him.

[@dominic.h.3363]

A quote comes to mind I've heard my father paraphrase often (this is the youtube-friendly original from Wayne Dyer, adding this info just for the sake of transparency, never expected so many likes): "The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about."

[@TroyPacelli]

I see what you did there.

[@dominic.h.3363]

@@TroyPacelli I don't know what you believe you see there, but autistic me is not in the business of implying anything. The words stand for themselves and there is nothing intended to be present beyond their semantic meaning. There is nothing to see between the lines...

[@buckhorncortez]

The original statement is by Wayne Dyer, "The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don’t know anything about."

[@dominic.h.3363]

@@buckhorncortez I'm aware. My father's modifications to it aren't exactly youtube compliant, that's why I quoted Wayne's version directly.😅

[@dragonfied321]

@dominic.h.3363 If you don't mind, I'm going to yoink this for my Discord status. Dyer's one of those authors I've never read but hear about constantly.

[@masterplanet420]

I wish I had a bottle of tritium water so I could give it to anyone if they say they don’t believe in radiation.

[@victinim2512]

Sadly for conspiracy theorists, science doesn't care that you "don't believe" known facts.

[@chris7263]

At the end of the day, if you're willing to believe that everyone is telling coordinated lies, then there can be no proof of anything. All knowledge beyond, like, "I think therefore I am" requires believeing other people on some level.

[@NiekNooijens]

Yes but for that we have the Segan standard: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This means that for an ordinary claim like "i have a horse in my stable" you don't require much evidence in order to believe that. You know horses exist, you know stables exist, you know horses often reside in stables etc. But if the guy says "I have a pink unicorn in my attic that fullfills all my wishes" You'd be very suspicious and require a lot of evidence to believe this!

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@NiekNooijens But that saying only extends to personal probable experience, and following it would never net us any improvement as a species beyond the middle ages. As we progress as a species on a technological level, there inevitably comes certain break points of relatability where "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" goes out the window, because it's no longer applicable due to how advanced and specific these technologies have become, and how improbable it is for 99% of people to ever gain first hand experience with any relatable aspects of that technology. I could bet 1000 bucks nobody here has actually seen an MRI scanner disassembled and analyzed each internal component and their properties - yet we don't require extraordinary evidence to support the claim that MRI machines are real, and the scans they generate aren't just faked on a computer to maintain the idea that doctors can do more good for you than you could on your own without such medical devices. Likewise nobody here has been the first-hand receiver of images from the James Webb telescope, but we don't need that evidence to believe that it exists and that its data is real. You can either stop believing in what institutes of science and scientific history teaches, or you can embrace the fact that acquisition of extraordinary evidence is no longer feasible for the average human, thus we must rely on a collective trust in these institutes when enough of them independently present the same conclusions, that stands as a good enough proxy evidence to replace our own need for personally analyzing evidence first hand.

[@thetalantonx]

Ultimately solipsism, polylogism, nihilism, and this sort of absurd skepticism lead to one of two diametrically opposed extremes. If words don''t have meaning, other people aren't real, and the world outside yourself isn't real and thus you have nothing to do with other people and you withdraw from the world, that's ascetic hermitage or complete psychotic derealization and withdrawal. If words don''t have meaning, other people aren't real, and the world outside yourself isn't real and thus you are free to use and manipulate people as you desire that's antisocial personality disorder (combination of narcissism, psychopathy, and sociopathy) and ultimately evil. If someone is advocating for any of these positions and is talking to you, it's pretty clear which extreme they're tending towards.

[@RetepInk]

@@thetalantonx i think this is more edging on philosophy Theory of Mind now but I'm gonna go there anyway, Does it matter if a brain in a jar? if my experience as far as as my perceptions concerned it is a conscious experience regardless of whether i am a brain in a jar or not bears no perceivable difference on my conscious experience, Does it matter arguably not. Further more I have no way to disprove or prove that statement making it irrelevant to my lived experience. Secondly to this I would call on occums razor to suggest that the simpler answer is that other people are also conscious and experiencing the same world as me. Rather than to believe that all my experiences are false. I can't disprove skepticism but I do see it as irrelevant if you can follow that logic. Its also pretty impossible to live like that.

[@hugegamer5988]

Dude, the Internet isn’t even real.

[@LoudWaffle]

This feels like almost the same tier as the "Roman Empire never existed" conspiracy theory. Some are not worth the headache to disprove, but we appreciate your work on it nonetheless haha.

[@arcturionblade1077]

But isn't the joke of the meme is that men constantly think about the Roman Empire everyday?

[@elijahford3696]

Every time someone feels the need to eat bread, Rome comes rearing its head.

[@crow5946]

@@arcturionblade1077 that's a different meme, I'm pretty sure they're talking about that TikTok "historian" that made up a bunch of stuff about how the Roman Empire wasn't real and then insulted anyone who disagreed with her

[@thomasboys7216]

....oh FFS, is this a frigging conspiracy too?!

[@DneilB007]

@@thomasboys7216I *think* that was supposed to be satire. (At least 50% of my thinking on that is that no one can be that stupid.)

[@Illuminatisheep]

Conspiracy Theorists when you detonate a nuclear bomb above their house:

[@antifurrybase]

theyd more look like this:

[@burghleyimeanberdly6513]

The Finland thing is one of my favorite jokes, basically less than 0.5% of the earth's population lives in Finland and global population percentages are to the nearest 0.5% so statistically, there is a 50/50 chance Finland doesn't exist

[@RageMojo]

We live in an age where everyone has the knowledge of the entire planet in their pocket and yet society is getting dumber and dumber.

[@rayxtime]

We have access to both all of knowledge and all of ignorance. Dumb ideas formerly limited to a handful of idiots are now easily gobbled up by an entire world of idiots.

[@antibull4869]

People would rather look at that which they understand rather than learn about that which they dont.

[@NightmarAkashi]

​@@antibull4869 and another thing : lot of social website have recommandation, making it feel like everyone think like you

[@khanhnguyen-tt3ff]

I think we as a human race are smarter, but the dumb one stand out alot more and these people are so dumb they are thinking they are the smart one and the rest of us that are the dumb one.

[@xagon2012]

Maybe most people never really thought for themselves and had much of an ability to in their own minds have a realistic understanding of the world. Before the internet those people read the newspaper, watched the news, etc, and followed the reality constructed by those "authorities". Today there is a nearly infinite numbers of such "authorities" to chose from and it shows that a lot of people are just not that great at distinguishing fantasy from reality.

[@muffinn1337]

My favorite part about this type of Conspiracy Theories it that it doesn't just say "The Government is playing us", but every government of the world works together in unison just to make us believe that Nukes are real.

[@Heracles_FE]

You really don't understand, do you ? Yes , all of the governments work together because they are all owned by the same central bank system . The whole world shut down at the same time, and idiots still can't see what is obvious to a blind man .

[@conspiracypanda1200]

Not only that, but they would have to rationalize that countries who were _actively fighting each other_ suddenly decided to work together to keep up this global conspiracy. My country was one of many being bombed by Japan in WWII. Why would Japan stop bombing us if there wasn't a giant, horrific thing that happened to make them stop? And why would both my government and theirs, who were _enemies,_ as well as every other government who was either Axis or Ally, all look at the evidence and agree that nuclear weapons did indeed exist and were the reason for Japan's sudden surrender? It makes no sense that proud Japan, who had soldiers who would kill themselves for their country and brought theor own horrific torture to so many, would suddenly give up their conquest and bow to anything less than or exaggerate the destruction of the nuclear bombs that were dropped on their people. If anything, were this conspiracy real, the more likely thing to conclude wouldn't be "pfft nukes don't exist", but rather "oh my god, whatever they have is worse than nukes and that's why they're hiding it from us". Imo people who believe in this conspiracy specifically seem like cowards.

[@InfamousAlliance]

I mean these people believe every single government is lead by a family of Jewish people that form a shadow organisation and run everything from behind the scenes. (My stepdad being one of them)

[@Heracles_FE]

@@conspiracypanda1200 What happened was the Soviet union amassed an invasion force and told them if they don't surrender that day they would invade . This is well known and uncontested . WWI was the first step to force central banking on the world , and WWII finished off the plan . After WWII there were few countries left not in debt to the banks . The next 50 years was a show to get compliance from the remaining countries. As of now there are only 2 countries not on the central bank system , officially at least , Iran and Syria . The banks control the world now . Everything you have been told is a lie .

[@peachypet808]

My favourite conspiracy theory is still the moon landing. They are claiming that the USSR and the USA worked together 100% and Russia is still in on it to this day.

[@sydliminal]

oh! another interesting one is the fact that we have to harvest what's called "low-background" steel (also known as pre-war or pre-atomic steel) from shipwrecks or scrapping old ships! steel produced _after_ the detonations of the first nuclear bombs are contaminated with traces of nuclear fallout and therefore can't be used to make things like particle detectors.

[@judet2992]

Huh.

[@NobodyInParticular...]

Source?

[@sydliminal]

@@NobodyInParticular... pretty sure links put the comment in "held for review," but google is free, so.

[@NobodyInParticular...]

@@sydliminal can you give me a website name or exact topic to search

[@sydliminal]

@@NobodyInParticular... low background steel

[@victorcapel2755]

This is understanable, these people just confuses nukes with horses. Horses doesn't exist.

[@gray7433]

I work with one of these people. I thought he was just spouting the craziest thing he could think of. "How do we know the Russians have a nuclear bomb?" Because we have nuclear technology. "How did you know that the Russians have nuclear technology?" Because we both got German scientists. He's also concerned by 5G, finds a way to link everything back to conspiracy theories, and really hates chilling with all coworkers.

[@rareroe305]

I feel for you. I've got one of those too, except he likes to listen to his 'news' during breaks. Until I told him that I didn't care about nor believe his conspiracy theory BS.

[@joshsquatch7474]

Yeah i work with a literal flat earther, I seriously wonder how some people draw these conclusions.

[@alphagt62]

We’ve had satellites in space that can detect a nuclear explosion from orbit, when the Russians, the Chinese, the Pakistanis , and lately the North Koreans, they knew the instant it happened.

[@functionatthejunction]

I would totally f with that guy. Like randomly stop mid-conversation with him, stare into space, and then immediately change the subject. Act like your brain is receiving secret 5G programming.

[@ManiaMac1613]

@@functionatthejunction Start speaking Latin every now and then to spice things up even further

[@deez8993]

I've never understood the "nukes don't exist" theory cause in the end if they were able to fake a nuclear bomb with conventional wepons that powerful it doesn't matter as the target is still getting annihilated.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

I guess if you claim that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chemical explosives it lets you pretend we don't have weapons over a thousand times more powerful now (Tsar Bomba was literally over 2000 times more powerful than Fat Man)

[@razorburn645]

It would be terrifying if we had conventional weapons that powerful. City killers with no nasty fallout? How many would have been let off the chain in Korea or Vietnam? History would have been very different if cold War nations were comfortable with those bombs.

[@tomstonemale]

​@@razorburn645There was an anime show, Ghost in the shell, where the backstory for the setting was exactly that. The Japanese Miracle was like a "sponge" (can remember if quimical or a bacteria) that could absorb radiation. And the first thing the world does with that knowledge was to start World War 3 using nukes as long as each nation have enough of these sponge to reduce fallout.

[@razorburn645]

@@tomstonemale I am aware.

[@leighz1962]

Umm.. conventional bombs can be hugemungous. Japan had been firebombed with similar effects to what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not saying nukes aren't real, but "consp theories" are based on real info.. often exagerrated.

[@cferracini]

"They don't like the light. The science light" -> Truer words would be impossible hahahahah

[@elilastname2610]

Cant belive kyle invented nuclear energy to prove people wrong

[@kavinaderrow3269]

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” -Mark Twain

[@eliannafreely5725]

So we need to trick people into believing in science? "Your brain has unlocked potential the government DOESN'T want you to use! This one simple trick will allow you to discover and prove the TRUTH on your own, in a few steps. Don't let THEM lie to you! Give your brain the ability to learn about anything with this easy method!"

[@dannygjk]

Which proves what?

[@CertifiedSunset]

@@dannygjk It's easier to brainwash someone into believing something than it is to prove to them that they are wrong even in the face over overwhelming evidence to the contrary of their belief. That's how propoganda works, and people buy into it way too easily.

[@djjackson2200]

Which proves that a lot of people are hanging out on Mt Dunning-Kruger

[@dannygjk]

@@djjackson2200 but it doesn't prove anything related to this video. It's vague.

[@tesseract5569]

If nukes aren't real then what exactly is being built in my garage?? Checkmate theorists 😎😎😎

[@eacalvert]

And now you're on a watch list 😂

[@themeantuber]

@@eacalvert aren't we all [on a list] 😂

[@eacalvert]

@@themeantuber at this point probably 😂

[@Dumb-Comment]

​@@themeantubermaybe it's just you but I have made friends with the furry CIA agents after they watch me draw their favourite kinky shit

[@themeantuber]

@@Dumb-Comment maybe it's just me what? On a list? What I meant was that in today's day and age everything is recorded anyway.

[@gurumagoo]

I think this must have started as a troll and then an idiot saw it and ran with it

[@someboredguy193]

Just learned that some people believe that planes don't use fuel or use it purely for takeoff and landing... Dunno why I was taking tests on fuel systems then

[@charlesevans4621]

"the source of this conspiracy is this single tweet" pretty much sums up all conspiracy theories lately

[@electricay]

Who else misses the good old conspiracy theories?

[@minestar2247]

@@electricay if you want one, watch the documentary hold up on youtube, it was made when covid was still a popular thing to talk about

[@TheSH1N1GAM1]

​@@electricayI just watched the government did 911 conspiracy south park episode today. Good times.

[@ctdaniels7049]

@@electricay Tbh the family tree of conspiracy theories tends to begin on a great-great grandpa of xenophobia

[@guitaristkuro8898]

I wouldn’t say so. There are tons of “theories” that can’t even be considered theories because of the sheer amount of hard evidence they have. Only thing that doesn’t make them true is lack of direct official statements by the subject. This is a fallacy where because some topics in a subject area are absurd or stupid, people use those to discredit any other topic. There is also the problem of large scale events that are seen as true by one group and seen as false by another purely due to where they source credible information as they can have an extremely constricted world view resulting from bias.

[@NoahSpurrier]

With respect to question of why weren’t the cameras vaporized while photographing nuclear testing, there is a book titled “How to Photograph an Atomic Bomb”. It gives details on how this was achieved. It wasn’t easy. Great book.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

“It wast easy.” This. People with a lack of insight and imagination can’t possibly fathom how something was done by smart, creative, hardworking people….so instead of wanting to learn, they declare it impossible.

[@spvillano]

One of the Castle Bravo photographs shows a bunker on the left edge of the screen being vaporized. They had light pipes to carry the x-rays to instruments within that bunker. Unfortunately, the bomb yield was 2.5 times greater than anticipated and that bunker and its contents was vaporized, with a equivalent yield of 1 kiloton of TNT.

[@Simboiss]

@@spvillano Do you have references of that photograph? Some Castle Bravo before/after photographs also show pristine beaches untouched where there should have been heavy transformations due to large waves.

[@Simboiss]

@@extragoogleaccount6061 Interestingly, I heard the opposite argument for Apollo, many times, not just once. Some people jest about how faking the Apollo feats would be so difficult that it would be easier to just go there for real. Kinda ironic. Faking Apollo was extremely hard, and they took a lot of extreme measures to make sure some parts of it would be kept confined to as few people as possible. Something being difficult or intracte doesn't make it automatically real or false.

[@thenomadrhodes]

FranLab did a in-depth video on this. There is literally documentaries made on the building of these special cameras. Just gotta look my dude.

[@nathanstruble2177]

Sure Finland obviously is real, but Delaware... You'll never convince me that Delaware is real

[@JMonty0100]

I’m a minute and 30 seconds in and this is already half personal to me. My dad worked in nuclear power for most of my life and I won’t abide by anyone claiming it’s not real

[@Aidan303]

I work at a nuclear research facility. When they built the whole body contamination monitor, they had to make a shell around the room that had absolutely no contamination so it didn't effect the highly sensative radiation detection equipment. Their solution was to cut massive thick slabs of steel from sunken ships at Pearl Harbor because they were one of the few places where they could get large amounts of metal that was forged before the atomic bombs were tested and radioactive isotopes were spread across the world.

[@toxicgracie3772]

WOW

[@michaelmcnally2331]

Scape flow also another source of such material.

[@saturnslastring]

Hey! I work at a nuclear research facility too! We don't have a whole body counter though. I'd like to use one sometime. Does this make us atom buddies? Nuclear neighbors? Can I come tour your facility?

[@keirfarnum6811]

There’s a thriving business in salvaging ships from before the nuclear bomb; most of it illegal.

[@demoncbr9981]

Hey I work too! Y’all have like a flash x ray or neutron gun I can use?

[@Adhdanny75]

''Depression generator' must be the best description of a smartphone ever.

[@JoshuaWhitehead-qd2tv]

"Nuclear bombs dont exist." Hiroshima and Nagasaki: are we a joke to you?

[@proxywargaming3017]

Yes they do, people just call everything fake that their small minds fail to comprehend or understand.

[@wolfiemuse]

One of my things I like to do is to feign interest and pose questions like “Oh, well if Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren’t nuclear bombs, what else could they have been?” just to see how much deeper of a hole they dig. Conventional bombs? Oh really? You know how many bombs that kind of destruction would have needed? Way more than 2 planes could carry. Also, what about that kid who built a breeder reactor in his shed? Was that kid paid by the shadow government to be obsessed with science and radioactivity and use his own money to build a reactor? Yeah. I didn’t think so. lol

[@aliengranpa]

I'm surprised more people don't simply blame Godzilla.

[@GeldUndKokaine-kc1hp]

Mind you, it’s not true but you’ve got really shoddy ones here 1. It was the results of the conventional bombing campaigns that happened over Japan, much like those in Europe. It’s accumulated damage being passed off as a single strike 2. Yes it takes a relatively small portion of money and a couple of NDAs to pull something that simple off. People make such hoaxes for fun now-a-days

[@UpperDarbyDetailing]

Kid was a boy scout. There was a person in my area who was as bad a nuclear technician as Homer Simpson. I don’t know what material the idiot brought home, but BOTH of his homes along with ten surrounding homes were all demolished, the top soil stripped and all of the material properly disposed of due to the rads.

[@TheOnlyBootlegger]

David Hahn, the guy you're talking about, didn't just use his own money. In 2007 he was arrested for stealing smoke detectors from apartment buildings to harvest the Americium

[@awesometwitchy]

The easier proof that I’ve resorted to is pointing to test footage they believe to be staged using conventional explosives and asking them about the black smoke that rises from the cars and buildings seconds before the shockwave. You only get that effect with an XRay burst, not TnT. Same could be said of the footage that American soldiers took days after the bombing of Hiroshima, showing shadows imprinted in concrete. I doubt you can get such perfectly shaped scorch marks with a blowtorch, or by calling in a crew of set painters from Hollywood before the city was rebuilt.

[@troikas3353]

Anyone that's ever tried to manage a group of more than three people, or even just done a small group project in school, knows how utterly insane these conspiracy theories are that would require the generaions-long perfect and unerring cooperation of tens of thousands of people.

[@RichMitch]

Exactly this

[@adamofblastworks1517]

Millions.

[@camelthegamer7165]

Agreed but remember the Manhattan project remained a secret. I'm against these fools but the government can and does keep secrets.

[@catwell88]

The government has to censor soldiers letters home when overseas because they blab too much 😂 I’m sure there are secrets, there has to be at some point. But stuff like this is utterly ridiculous.

[@Simboiss]

You don't need that. Same for Apollo. Only a few know (or are delusional), the others are just doing their job. Proving that nukes exist with science would be relatively easy, though. But whoops, they refuse to detonate one (as a test) because of treaties. That's convenient.

[@jacobrigby3172]

I choose to believe people aren't this stupid and just spout conspiracy theories as a shitpost and dont actually take it seriously