For your reminder, Obito didn't start the war just because of Rin and Kakashi, he want to change the failing system of the ninja world and its society. He said that by himself when he talk to Kakashi in the Kamui dimension.
@GabrielSantos-pz7mh6 сағат бұрын
Exactly. He was tired of the world. As he says it's a black hell. But it's true that Rin was the trigger.
@ThePINOYZONE6 сағат бұрын
Technically he did. If he didnt see how rin died or if she didnt die, he wouldnt get influence
@songoku-jx3cb6 сағат бұрын
It’s the problem of becoming what you hate . This is what happens to everyone who wants to play god . Obito harmed so many people and took away their loved ones just like rin was taken away from him and that’s what makes naruto different . He doesn’t respond to hate with hate . He understands that more hate just makes the world a worse place . Obito could have chosen the same way and worked towards actually trying to fix problems but he let hatred consume him .
@amarnathcr73356 сағат бұрын
@@songoku-jx3cbExcept that Obito didn't consider this world to be real. In his mind the casualties aren't even real as he thought the world will eventually fall into Infinite Tsukuyomi where everyone can be happy. So the events leading up to it as cruel as it may be he didn't consider them to be real.
@songoku-jx3cb5 сағат бұрын
@ that’s the thing . People with god complexes impose their will on the world . No one has the right to make choices for others on their behalf . He was so consumed by hatred and disgust towards his misfortune that he projected his will as the truth which is what every tyrant in history did . He forgot that he is causing others the same pain that he himself couldn’t endure .
@henleyhun2 сағат бұрын
18:27 I think Obito was always late because he would stop to help grannies in need along the way. It seems Kakashi was inspired by him, as he was sometimes late for helping grannies as well during the early OG Naruto series, besides going to memorial stone to pay respects to his friends.
@zile88696 сағат бұрын
Yall keep saying Obito is full of hate. Why? He made it exceedingly clear, that he feels no hate, anger or sadness towards anyone or anything in their world. He just doesnt want a broken world like that to continue existing. He want to replace it with a perfect one, for everyone, and he is willing to do whatever it takes to get it! Rin is not his justification. She was just the catalyst that opened his eyes to the harshness of reality. His justification is global salvation. What he was debating, was just whether or not a false world was worth it, and whether or not he was willing to throw away his true self, and sense of identity to achieve his goal. Also, Sasuke has support from Naruto and those around him. Naruto has support as well. Obito didnt have anyone supporting him when he experienced his moment of despair. Instead he has Madara telling him "Yeah, that what reality is like! Everyone experiences this pain, and it never gets any better. Some dreams just dong come true. There is only 1 solution, and thats the tsukuyomi" And dont get me wrong, everyone Obito did, was still ultimately his choice and reflects HIS OWN personal views. But Madara was able to recognise these dark quality in Obito and knew how to grow them. As Madara said to Obito himself: "I taught you that in order to control people, you need to use the darkness in their hearts. And if there's no darkness, then you just create it"
@اميرمادرا5 сағат бұрын
I agree with you here obito he broken hero l fell sad for obito and Rirn here😢❤
@JACpotatos55 минут бұрын
He's definitely filled with hate, anger, and sadness.... That's the only reason he starts to change his mind. If he felt nothing, then those flashbacks wouldn't bother him
@Zesar426 сағат бұрын
Having the Nunoboko sword in his hands played against him, he himself said that it is the sword that reflects the soul, when he had it in his hands we saw what his soul really felt.
@banshotenin11784 сағат бұрын
Ron I think u forget, Even the happy go lucky never give up "Believe it" Naruto gave into revenge and letting Kurama (whom at the time was just known as the 9 Tails DEMON fox and embodiment of pure evil) take over as soon as he saw his loved one perceive as dead after Pain stabbed her. The difference is instead of having a Madara further push him down that dark road, Minato literally had to come and stop him...and Naruto is the Good guy main character. If feel more for characters like Sasuke and to a certain extent Madara because regardless they are born with a direct curse of hatred and steered that route throughout their lives by outside forces. Then just the Uchiha clan in general that's also just cursed. The literally could never be the goodie 2 shoes so many people wanted them to be. And that's outside all the trauma they XP.
@DiES3L245 сағат бұрын
Man you gotta go back and watch the flashback where Tobirama told Hiruzen and Danzo that he was staying behind to hold them off. “As of tomorrow Sarutobi, you are the Third Hokage”. Crazy moment considering how young he was at the time and how long he ended up being Hokage. Dealing with Danzo’s bs the whole time too. Always feel people don’t give Lord Third a fair shake
@djoetma3 сағат бұрын
Yeah, they should've established that more. Hiruzen in his younger days was basically known as one of the strongest shinobi to have ever lived. And he basically went toe to toe with the brought back versions of the 1st and 2nd on his old age. I wish they did a filler arc about him.
@haroldcanfly5 сағат бұрын
1:15 CANCEL RON. CANCEL RON.
@c3p6Сағат бұрын
People always complain about "Talk no jutsu", but this is honestly one of the most appropriate times for it to be used. Its not like he can just use it on any opponent; he always has some connection to the person. Naruto and Obito reflect 2 sides of the same coin. Naruto is realizing that, meanwhile Obito is struggling to deny it. That's the whole reason why Obito lost; his will wavered which is why his god sword shattered (a sword that is literally strengthened by resolve). He still had regrets. Ever since he started fighting Naruto he has been trying to deny their similarity by cutting him down, but that's only further reaffirming his denial. There is a lot of "psychological" warfare for Obito in this arc.
@chicopatata336 сағат бұрын
i guess the differentiating factor that made obito the way he is despite having not as bad a past as maybe sasuke for example, was madara. him being reminded of madaras words in that moment with rin that broke him. how he realized how futile this world really is
@اميرمادرا5 сағат бұрын
I agree with you here l fell şad for obito and and saskue too❤
@djoetma6 сағат бұрын
I always felt like Obito deep down wanted to switch sides and wished that he never chose against Konoha, but felt that it was too late now. But Obito doesn't really have an excuse. Sasuke and Naruto had it way worse, so did f.e. Neji and Gaara against Sunagakure. Obito only lost Rin and he knew why and how she died, and even if he wanted to hate Kakashi, then still the rest of the town could be there for him. He says he wanted to take the darkness away from the world, but that's not for him to decide for everyone else. Like Naruto said, he only did it for himself.
@اميرمادرا5 сағат бұрын
I agree with you here but he love her she wil be amzing wife for him if she ok😢 l hope she rest in peçe ❤
@phoenixgamers26904 сағат бұрын
read the above comment so u can understand obito’s character
@AizenDuduk6 сағат бұрын
the ultimate talk no jutsu is here
@اميرمادرا5 сағат бұрын
I love my boy nrouto and saskue team up vs obito iş amzing episode❤
@bub30805 сағат бұрын
I think one of the reasons why Kakashi wears a mask is because he is bad at showing emotions and doesn't want anyone to be able to read him. And probably Kishimoto just wanted to have a cool ninja-like character :D
@mohidahmed47393 сағат бұрын
Ron talked about characters facing more shitty stuff in their lives than Obito. I think the character that has suffered a lot more in the show and still did not turn evil is Kakashi. Father commited suicide because of the village, lost everyone dear to him, went through traumas. Only Might Gai was there for him until team 7 showed up.
@JEYEL28294 сағат бұрын
this is why i like all of the villains in Naruto they all have a bad past and they all want some peace although in Naruto they all have a different perspective in peace
@user-jd2kv1mr7m6 сағат бұрын
5:00 sasuke’s genjutsu
@اميرمادرا5 сағат бұрын
Saskue cold with it here have nice day❤
@c3p6Сағат бұрын
Don't let this distract you from the fact that this was the first and only time Lee ever used ninjutsu
@jarmstrong196 сағат бұрын
Man. More BestfriendoObito. Why do I love this guy?
@اميرمادرا5 сағат бұрын
Me too l love obito he my favorite villain in show❤
@ajayimoses249553 минут бұрын
Obito’s one of the more impulsive of the 4 remaining main uchiha like sasuke Madara and itachi are the types that have full control of the screen when they show up
@BuKorostearu6 минут бұрын
Unlike Nagato / Pain situation , the talk no justu was not forced and bad written in Obitos case :)
@nirvana185Сағат бұрын
Naruto's Ultimate Jutsu: Talk no Jutsu
@isaiasrach75032 сағат бұрын
Funfact: when the manga ended the author made a little novel of kakashi and in the end showing his whole face🎉
@ajayimoses249551 минут бұрын
Obito can never be redeemed because of the insane scale of innocents that lost thousands of lives because of him All for the flimsy reason of him losing a teammate…
@jeromefriend24092 сағат бұрын
Yall forget when madara saved obito he placed a seal that would stop his heart and kill him. If he diverted from madaras plan
@awesomeness12276 сағат бұрын
his early childhood might not have been “sad”, but man his whole life has been nothing but despair. starting from where he sacrificed himself to save kakashi till now
@AquaSenpai19954 сағат бұрын
the 4th hokage's teacher was jiraiya like naruto
@DidYouKnowAnime-ny5bl5 сағат бұрын
Uchihas feel emotions way way way way more intensely then anyone else. They have no control over this(Itachi and shisui just felt this way for the leaf )
@mr.m74912 сағат бұрын
We already got a flashback to how he became hokage. Lool. He got it really young and grew up in a time of war. The 3rd is also a bum (not talking about his battle capabilities btw)
@Pharo026 сағат бұрын
Benz? He means bench, he loves the gym
@FluffySylveonBoi6 сағат бұрын
Mercedes Benz!
@Pharo026 сағат бұрын
@@FluffySylveonBoi Yes, I am German
@ajayimoses24956 сағат бұрын
Did obito start the war because of rin?… No Would obito have started the war if rin didn’t die? … No Make up your flipping mind y’all 😂
@MahnTinz6 сағат бұрын
Yeah, he started the war because of her not for her
@songoku-jx3cb6 сағат бұрын
Because of her and for her are different things . She was just a trigger of how cruel the world is . But what obito did is just as cruel .
@zile88696 сағат бұрын
It's really damn simple: Rin is the catalyst, not the reason. Do you know what a catalyst is? A catalyst does not CAUSE something to happen, but it greatly assists that thing in happening, making it much more likely and causing it to speed up in how quickly it happens. Obito wanted to change the Ninja world and get rid of the good-for-nothing world, filled with the harsh reality, in which dreams dont come true, replacing with a new world, where all dreams come true. Obitos entire character represents the theme of "hope vs despair". What he is doing is trying to create a world of hope, to replace the real world which he sees as one of despair. But he wouldnt have been able to even CONSIDER this goal, if he didnt have a moment of despair himself in the real world. If he didnt experience the harshness of reality for himself, then how could he come to this realisation about reality? Rin just served as that experience. Her death, made obitos dream of being with her impossible, meaning there was no hope for that dream anymore, only despair. If rin didnt die and instead something else happened causing him to fall into despair then he would have gone down the same path. But considering how very few people he had that he cared about and that cared about him, as well as how tenacious he was in pursuing his other goals in life, despite setbacks, it would be difficult for Madara to get him to fall into despair using any other menthod. So yes, he didnt start the war because of rin, but he probably wouldnt have started it if she didnt die.
@اميرمادرا5 сағат бұрын
I agree with you here have nice day❤
@ajayimoses249554 минут бұрын
Still a flimsy reason to try end the world Whether as a catalyst or directly
@DragosReloaded75 сағат бұрын
lol there's a reason for the wifebeater 😄 jk IK Ron is not that typa guy
@Ciffer-19984 сағат бұрын
5:50 Sasuke dosnt have curse mark anymore, he used Jugo before so for them to have curse mark as well on top of that susano armor they would need to have Jugo with them as well
@Kaileigh_Broko7 сағат бұрын
We are here already? Another tearjerker 😢
@autograph4153 минут бұрын
lord third is the 4th cousin of lord 4th
@hkaayaakuu5 сағат бұрын
Back for more kidzz. I drop bentleys all the time
@mrsaagar73 сағат бұрын
Yes Obito does not have the worst past, but he by far has been manipulated the most (well there's Nagato but I'd still say Obito). I don't see why that's so hard to understand. Or maybe the concept of manipulation is just to hard to grasp for Ron. Edit: that came off way worse than I intended. EN is not my first language, idk how to word it differently but it is essentially what I mean, just not as petty or butthurt as that sounded
@Itachi-Uchiha5 сағат бұрын
pretty sure we don't know anything about the third hokage's parents... besides his dads name which is sasuke sarutobi. itachi and sasuke's parents asked if they could name their son after the thirds dad
@BigDaddy-ve5ct16 минут бұрын
Naruto did not have a harder upbringing than obito lmfao
@joaobeardman6 сағат бұрын
4:45 someone call 911, please.
@autograph41526 минут бұрын
naruto san never gave up on sun sauske u better beleive it yo
@MugiwaraWayne6 сағат бұрын
Episode start @2:09 next @13:22
@deehinker18486 сағат бұрын
Because of Ron's stubbornness and his "this is how it should have been" way of thinking, I appreciate comments like this.
@deadmanThorTempestСағат бұрын
🐐💯🏆
@michelsanchez89034 сағат бұрын
Thank u for not taking to loooong
@Yashaanzm906 сағат бұрын
you haven't seen any of his backstory yet!! But it's coming!
@davidarrubla4506 сағат бұрын
We have reasons to see Obito wanted to change?, yes. (Well, he could´ve thought about that before doing all this sht but whatever). This anime is a masterpiece, but this part, everyone forgiving him is like... so fake and and slightly bad written like... Obito killed hundred, thousands of people, killed Naruto´s parents, formed the Akatsuki and everything that happened because of that. And then Naruto and Rin forgive him, saying he "tried his best" or something like that is like... wtf. Madara is evil and has done bad things, manipulating Obito, but the fact that Obito agreed to his plan and did eveything with his own hands is undeniable
@dondawest45294 сағат бұрын
TALK NO JUTSU GOES HAAARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@cykablyat94492 сағат бұрын
I wonder what they gon do when Naruto ends? Everybody is Fed Up od Ron, only wievs they get is Naruto
@abyssaldemon92196 сағат бұрын
I'm still waiting for you to watch Sword Art Online and I know that one day you will definitely watch it because this anime is just for you (in my opinion)
@nexoz80516 сағат бұрын
For me this is the most stifling part, I will have to endure it
@raniericardoso49865 сағат бұрын
About the Third, the anime has already shown that his senseis were the First and the Second. He was known as "shinobi god", only the First and the Third had this title in Naruto Shippuden. So in powerleveling and achievements, he is more powerful than the Second and the Fourth. In fact, it is very likely that the Second is the weakest Hokage in history (or second). He is a genius who invented many techniques, but does not have such extraordinary battle feats as the others (for example, he faced Kinkaku and Ginkaku and lost).
@JACpotatos52 минут бұрын
He beat the twins... It was the overwhelming numbers with them that beat him. He lost to a small army that was with the twins
@voodiethemoody4 сағат бұрын
Naruto did NOT have a particularly hard upbringing. Total nonsense.
@rushipatel73993 сағат бұрын
His upbringing was difficult, but it was not in the top 3 saddest. Maybe it was in the top 5 saddest. Not trying to play trauma Olympics, but that’s my opinion
@JACpotatos49 минут бұрын
Never knowing your parents and being forced to raise yourself while being completely ostracized by everyone around you isn't "particularly hard?" 😂
@zazoreal55365 сағат бұрын
Talk no Jutsu!
@Atalino-hr6dw3 сағат бұрын
For 12:35 ginger says obito isn't in the top 5 saddest or fcked up backstories but remember, he lost his crush infant of his best friend who he gave him his own eye by sacrificing himself. He lost his sensei and basically his body which got repaired by Madara. Also his whole life he was manipulated till now so... I would definitely say that his backstory at least in the top 5
@thawatsay5 сағат бұрын
ronald duck
@GamerShen987 сағат бұрын
yo
@jamezplayzroblox88433 сағат бұрын
Ron don’t start having double standards now you say this about about but you don’t even know obito You have to say the same thing with characters like mardara nagato pain and itachi all these characters you have to say the same thing to RON 🙄