This Old House | Tanks for the Propane (S41 E8) | FULL EPISODE

The new propane tank gets buried in the backyard. Norm advises an apprentice in composite decking. Jeff and Tommy add final touches to the coffered ceiling. A shelving system goes into the new office. Outside Mark applies a stone veneer to the new chimney.
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Kevin O'Connor opens the show in the new basement, formally the garage, where the homeowners want to make a modest home gym and use the rest for utilities and storage.
A new furnace is already in place. Upstairs the finish woodworking has started, and in the living area there are two new sets of slider doors that lead out to what will soon be a deck.
In the backyard, a trench has been dug for a new pipeline. Richard Trethewey is with propane supplier Peter Sherman who has brought a 1,000-gallon steel propane tank that will be buried. The tank is filled 85% with liquid and the rest is vapor. It has to stay under constant pressure to maintain a steady flow of vapor into the house. Even though it's not required for this particular project, Richard demonstrates how in-ground tanks in high water table locations need to be anchored down.
Norm Abram shows apprentice Kathryn the durable composite decking that will be used for the new deck. They begin with setting the perimeter boards, and then they start to work on the field pieces using the special slots to space each board and screw it down to the joists.
Inside, Kevin finds Tom Silva and Jeff Sweenor working on the coffered ceiling. Mineral wool was put above for sound dampening, then 1x6 inch v-groove poplar was nailed into the field. Now they're building the crown molding in a picture frame on the table and lifting it up to be installed in one unit to create a coffered ceiling in a grid pattern.
Down the hall the old bedrooms have been converted to a laundry room, playroom and home office. Courtney Cavanagh is a local designer who worked with Scott and Shayla on creating cabinets and book storage in the office. Courtney shows Kevin the design on the computer and they look at the system of partitions and shelves being installed.
Outside Mark McCullough is at the new chimney with Buck Sharpe. The gas fireplace vent has been boxed in with plywood and covered with a weather barrier and cement board. Now Buck is using an architectural stone veneer that's lightweight and easy to cut. He applies it to look like dry-stacked stone.
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This Old House | Tanks for the Propane (S41 E8) | FULL EPISODE
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[@mendonesiac]

Norm: "make sure you get that screw in straight!" Proceeds to put his next screw in crooked: "Meh, close enough"

[@flat-earther]

mendonesiac I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@lmr45241]

Excellent propane tank explanation - thank you!

[@BamBamBigelow..]

Hank Hill would give this video a thumbs up

[@christophercurtis2315]

This Old House: Tanks for the Propane Me: you’re welcome

[@wmeemw994]

This woman (Kathy?) apprentice is very alert and asks very important things, makes valid points & shows that she is absorbing all that Norm, Tom & Jeff are teaching them. Impressive product of their program.

[@flat-earther]

It's all acting they ask what they are told to ask. BTW wmeemw I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@larrymoore6640]

I had a house that had a cinder block chimney with a rock facing. After a number of years it developed a leak with winds coming from one direction. New roof and flashing was installed but it was later determined it was coming in from the mortar between the stone. It was fixed by spraying the chimney with clear sealant but I was told it would have to be done again every 2-3 years. I like the look but personally not worth the headache.

[@darinladick6666]

Great questions asked about burying the tank.

[@skeeburton3360]

Excellent very excellent

[@cleroyster2610]

Brick man could work that mortar......good craftsman.

[@scallywag1716]

Oooo yeah....back buttah

[@codesent2125]

Make shua it's wutah tight

[@flat-earther]

cleroyster I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@gpslightlock1422]

Very nice porch. That gal's going to feel those muscles when going to bed!

[@flat-earther]

gpslightlock I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@bennetfox]

Oh wow it's Norm!!!!

[@chrisg2779]

Nice porch, but you’d want to put some dark tape (they make special tape for this) on top of the joists. Ascetically, it will look nicer, and it will also protect the joists.

[@flat-earther]

Interesting. BTW chrisg I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@rudycolt45zigzag71]

Time for that Milwaukee set

[@flat-earther]

rudycolt I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@MakeItWithCalvin]

Knowing propane has a much higher BTU than natural gas, curious what the operating costs of the propane setup are vs a natural gas setup and how much a refill is/frequency too.

[@Matt-dc8lp]

Nat gas is almost always cheaper and much nicer to use if you have a stove top.

[@donabele1243]

So much to comment on here... The tank part seemed common-sense and well thought out - enjoyed that, especially the discussion about the anodes and the anti-float considerations. Thank you! Not sure why that second course of decking got face-screwed instead of using the same 'biscuit-style' joinery used in the rest of the field. Just use a standard biscuit jointer to cut the slots in the skirt board. More time? Nope...driving and plugging those long screws takes more time! And it results in a cleaning field. That ceiling has more nails holes and poorly mechanically set nailers dinging up the trim - so much fill work work. Glad it will all be painted! Thermo-something-pretending-it's scientific...it's MELAMINE covered FALL-APART-ICLE-BOARD !!! And I bet they are paying a premium for it! I have no idea what was going on with the brick piece..."It's a dry stack look, no joint over joints"...commences to show multiples joint over joints and even sets one himself! And if the spacing is 'dry-stacked' there is a lot of vacant space between those joints - are they going to fill them or just rely on that thinset and the concrete board to keep it watertight? And...why three days to finish that little stone veneer project??? Maybe a small syringe to fill out those "dry stacked" joints ??? Again...more questions than answers on this one (though this is becoming a normal thing!).

[@augustreil]

Very good comments. I don't like that there's no mortar between the joints either. Seems like a giant sponge to me ? I would've had him do the joints and then soak it with the best sealer known to man ! Jmo.

[@zack9912000]

As I get older I understand a lot of their experts are butchers

[@flat-earther]

donabele I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@mikefox2379]

Norm, when you were doing the deck with the young lady I noticed how long that screw gun took. Can you get those in an impact driver?

[@cleroyster2610]

You are gonna hate the sunken living room....Just sayin'

[@rawbacon]

I grew up in a house with one, as I recall my Mom broke her leg once and also fell and smashed her head into the coffee table once.

[@cleroyster2610]

@@rawbacon Thank you.

[@warnerrobins8542]

@@rawbacon I am a older person and can attest to falling down in my own home walking into a slightly lower living room. In fact several years ago I hired a fella to level the floor. If I hadn't I think I would have broken something or worse

[@cleroyster2610]

@@warnerrobins8542 I too was victim to this....had to level up the floor..before we got killed.

[@rawbacon]

@@warnerrobins8542 Smart move, a lot people don't realize how many older folks end up dying because of a fall........I can think of 2 in my own family, my Uncle fell and hit his head a couple years ago and died and my Grandmother fell, broke her hip and it never healed and she died months later because of it...........Not a hundred percent sure but I think that's also how my Great Aunt died too if I remember correctly.

[@jimg8218]

That decking material, does it get to not in summer sun, that you cannot walk on bare foot ?

[@mattpastore2177]

I have composite decking as well, we can walk on it in the summer months, unlike the wood decking that we use to have. We live in Richmond Va, pretty hot here. We also face south.

[@AlGoYoSu]

When I built my deck I went with pine boards, face fastened, and stained it. Re-staining is a chore. I would go composite on the next. If I did wood again, I would use a hidden fastener system like CAMO.

[@ericr2zz]

@@AlGoYoSu Agree on Camo. Great system and easy to install and remove boards if necessary

[@mendonesiac]

Color makes a big difference, as does location. Here in California light gray isn't a problem but dark brown gets so hot it actually gets soft.

[@lucky1206]

The ending was quite sudden lol

[@josuefisher6083]

a tip: watch movies on Flixzone. Been using it for watching all kinds of movies recently.

[@christiangibson2960]

@Josue Fisher yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for since december myself =)

[@flat-earther]

lukcy1206 I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@HAMRADIOJOE4178]

JUIST SAY HELLO TO JEFF NOT THE OTHER GUY, YOUR A NICE GUY KEVIN :-)

[@mm-gl7sz]

HAMRADIOJOE and right after he he's saying goodbye and the episode is over. Never seen This Old House end an episode like that

[@rogerweaver7686]

1 1/2 inches off in about 10 feet? That is an issue that should of been addressed. For the amount of money they are paying for this remodel they should expect a little better than that.

[@borys444]

Agree.

[@mm-gl7sz]

Especially after Tommy did a segment of Ask This Old House which is right here on KZbin where he fixes an uneven floor for a homeowner. Why on this project did they let that go? Kevin just says"oh we see that alot" and blows it off like it's nothing and it could indicate a serious problem either with the supports holding the floor up or the foundation of the house.

[@BrockPageProductions]

How often do I need to replace my anode bags?

[@bmay8818]

I'm surprised they didn't cover the tops of the deck joists with any form of weather-resistant tape or whatever. They'll rot out where they're exposed between the deck boards.

[@pavelow235]

The joists were Pressure treated, no?

[@bmay8818]

@@pavelow235 Doesn't look like it, but it's possible. Even so, covering the tops of the joists is cheap insurance since leaves and gunk build up and hold moisture there.

[@flat-earther]

bmay I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@stevenfoust3782]

So they rebuilt the entire house and don’t both to repair the sagging/ out of level floors??

[@byronwatkins2565]

The boiling point of all materials depends on pressure. At atmospheric pressure water boils at 100 Celsius and 212 Fahrenheit, but at 20 atmospheres pressure it is liquid at 2000 Celsius and can be used to move heat from a thermonuclear pile to a turbine boiler.

[@BiggMo]

....also the principal of a pressure cooker - at 15psi water boils higher, something like 230°

[@brhop1982]

The boiling point of water at 20 atmospheres (294 psia) is 213 degrees celsius. Nuclear reactors operate at pressures over 153 atmospheres (2250 psia).

[@flat-earther]

byronwatkins I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@byronwatkins2565]

@@flat-earther I don't see how this relates to my comment. To about 100 ppm accuracy, earth is an oblate ellipsoid.

[@flat-earther]

@@byronwatkins2565 No relation. Random suggestion. There is no curvature so it can't be an oblate spheroid or ellipsoid spheroid whatever shape with curvature. Many people have measured large frozen lakes for curvature and found none but you don't have to trust them because you can test it yourself.

[@Tavbiy]

Buck and Mark look related.

[@flat-earther]

Tavbiy I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@jacobramsey7624]

Question, my family build a barn last year and this spring we want to reseed the lawn because the land around the barn was reshaped. Before we can reseed though we have a million little rocks to pick up first. I am using a metal rake to rake a pach of land, sift it, put the dirt back and put the rocks on a stone wall. Do you or anyone reading this have a easer solution?

[@mendonesiac]

Add a layer of a couple inches of mushroom compost over the rocky soil after you rake out the really big stuff

[@jacobramsey7624]

@@mendonesiac ok. Thanks for the tip.

[@flat-earther]

jacobramsey I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@peep39]

no joist tape?

[@CPUDOCTHE1]

10:30 You missed with your miter cut. Also, one of the other good things about burying a propane tank is that they can not be dug up and reused. That way you don't have to worry about selling used propane tanks.

[@jamesbobo3128]

Hello from Ohio you know if that was. my place I would'nt care what anyone said I would have me several wood working fireplaces in the house made from real bricks and stone

[@nukelaloosh4795]

noooooorrrrrrrmmmmm

[@steveuible5915]

How many times are you going to re-release this show ?

[@clintrussell]

They were hoping you'd be stoned and not know since it's 4-20 =)

[@flat-earther]

steveuible I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@LetsGoBrandon-FJB]

If you wanna get warm When you're down on the farm Propane If you live in the sticks And your income is fixed Propane Its so high, its so high, its so high Propane

[@stclairstclair]

Only real men use Propane for their homes, I live near chicago, barf...........

[@AresGodOWar]

Tommy better stay away from the molding work , CA glue and pin nails not screws wow lol

[@borys444]

Thought that was a little overkill as well. It’s finish carpentry not rough framing!!

[@AdamDaley1]

Im pretty sure I already saw this video??? Am I wrong here? Why are these guys re-posting videos they already posted

[@jjyemg2397]

they've been doing this for a year or two. It's just marketing and sales. They just want to make some extra money from youtube.

[@flat-earther]

As jjyemg said I too believe they re upload videos for youtube money. They also cut videos into many parts to get even more views to get more money. BTW AdamDaley I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@Ted_E_Bear]

Where is Miss Molly hiding ?

[@SuperSpecialty]

How near & what height from the ocean? After all, the sea level is rising!

[@zunedog31]

That's for the great grandkids to theorize about

[@flat-earther]

SuperSpecialty I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@johnames6430]

19:16 Rachel huh? 😐

[@flat-earther]

johnames I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@steveuible5915]

HaHa

[@alexgt4110]

♥️♥️♥️FIRST🇬🇹🇬🇹

[@88cameras]

So is the propane tank gonna turn into a the next news gender revile gone wrong?

[@cleroyster2610]

White people showing black people....who built everything for white people.....how to do carpentry ...is quite interesting.

[@LetsGoBrandon-FJB]

fckin racist! btw the first save owner in America was a black man

[@64eski]

You couldn’t be more ignorant or racist.

[@ianbutler1983]

Right, just drive down Martin Luther King Avenue in any city to admire the architecture. Are you on drugs?

[@mikeznel6048]

Lol nope. You poor thing. You actually believe that?

[@cleroyster2610]

@@64eski Your problem is you have never studied history. Just sayin'