42k a year, and she takes 50% of sales? Yikes, thats bad.
@sj-red Жыл бұрын
@@octopusdreams Because they’ve changed their pricing strategy, subscription is much less the £42k/year even for enterprise package and they get nowhere near 50% of sales. That was ludicrous.
@sj-red Жыл бұрын
@@octopusdreams $0.0025 per impression beyond allowance, $0.00015 per second streamed beyond allowance
@AScaryOrange123 Жыл бұрын
@@octopusdreams Large companies like Louis Vuitton could quite easily pay an independent software development company to create their own version of this system and avoid paying 40k anually and 50% of all profits to this woman's company. Its a terrible business model. Small companies are the only ones who would potentially use this company's system, and yet its financially inaccessible for them with the model she is proposing. Large companies are making tens of millions of dollars in profit why would they give this woman 50% of that when they can invest a few hundred thousand and create their own system?
@AScaryOrange123 Жыл бұрын
@@octopusdreams How so? Please elaborate. She said herself that the system is relatively simple to develop and could be implemented for approximately half a million.
@mrhaltonok Жыл бұрын
No big brand or established company is paying a 50% affiliate fee. Imagine trying to justify to your shareholders that to sell a £2000 bag costs £1000 in customer acquisition cost. The referral would be making far more than the manufacturer
@DavidYoel13 Жыл бұрын
No one will ever EVER split 50% of profit after paying a fee of 42k
@Locutus Жыл бұрын
I agree. If there was an option for splitting revenue 50/50 instead of the yearly fee, that might be acceptable.
@Chrisxsmith3 Жыл бұрын
Agreed she’s always making more than the actual retailer by 42k a year, maybe a giant may consider but she’s excluded smaller businesses
@thomasdalton1508 Жыл бұрын
She said 50% of sales, not 50% of profit. 50% of profit wouldn't have been so bad.
@jessebella9322 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasdalton1508 Exactly
@DIVADUCHESSE Жыл бұрын
What a crazy thief = a huge ANUAL FEE AND HALF OF TURNOVER/SALES.
@markallanson7921 Жыл бұрын
3:38 Duncan's face!
@danielvanr.8681 Жыл бұрын
I see you noticed, too, mate. 😄
@prodigalparties Жыл бұрын
He’s Oat!!!
@DIVADUCHESSE Жыл бұрын
He is damn right to be flabbergasted
@RichMye-wx1ob3 ай бұрын
That look to camera breaking the fourth wall was epic
@Squish-TheUrbanScribe Жыл бұрын
It's the 50% cut on top of the maintenance fee for me.🤨
@Deadhammer218 Жыл бұрын
@@wf3644 It's giving away half of the pie, while paying for all the ingredience, cause that's 50% off the product, not off the top. She would make more on the sold item than the producer, which is just bonkers...
@nikostsigos4998 Жыл бұрын
that 42000 is not a lot for big companies but imagine making millions and have to split it. It would be a lot cheaper developing your own app even if it costed a million dollars
@neonwired4978 Жыл бұрын
it wouldn't cost that, not for something this simple.
@rjmunt Жыл бұрын
@@remydk based on your screen name ... If you like, you can code the backend and I'll do the front end for you. We can split it down the middle.
@giftedfox4748 Жыл бұрын
It is bad on both fronts on small and big businesses. Small businesses will have to cut down on a lot to afford the 42k whereas the big businesses will be loosing 50% of their profits. The small businesses won't get this and will move on whereas the big businesses will spend that money they would on this to create their own. This does have a market to go to, but she rigged the price so high because she is very proud of herself and her business that she deserves so much money. If she was in the world that she thinks she is, then she will be a million air in two months. But I don't see any reason why anyone with sense would buy that app.
@Deadhammer218 Жыл бұрын
@@giftedfox4748 "million air"?
@jack-a-lopium6 ай бұрын
Yes! At that price, definitely.
@ScottOSaurus Жыл бұрын
Kelly “I’m broke that’s why I don’t invest,” Hoppen even gets a pass on this one
@ic1815 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t she have a net worth of £50m lol
@ScottOSaurus Жыл бұрын
@@ic1815 you would never know it by all the investments she hasn't made.
@Squish-TheUrbanScribe Жыл бұрын
@@ScottOSaurus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@GodotOfficial Жыл бұрын
50% of sales??? Do you get a reacharound with that?
@kmdewhurst Жыл бұрын
Only 50% of one.
@giftedfox4748 Жыл бұрын
I am not into business or even understand the whole business model most companies have. However, even I when I heard 42k yearly with a 50% of sells know that is highway robbery. On a plus side, I do know computers, coding, and servers. If they didn't copyright protected that code then what is stopping me from getting said code and make it on my own basis? Also, even if it is copy right protected, I can just look at this and create something using Python to get something similar or better for far cheaper. This women is just greedy.
@jasonm4332 Жыл бұрын
this lady's face and voice was the template for all those AI people we now see
@niadavies6418 Жыл бұрын
Her voice could cut glass !!
@Pugetwitch Жыл бұрын
Her voice is terrible!
@trunderwood Жыл бұрын
Smartzer is still going and, yeah, the revenue model is significantly different. I was around in e-commerce during this time and there was a dozen offerings like this. The 50% rev share would be one problem - the clients in the market for this simply didn't make enough profit to agree to that - but the other problem was that the user behavior just wasn't there. Now, the problem is even worse - they only watch on KZbin, Meta, TikTok. I would suggest that tools which allow you to upload better content to those platforms might get more traction. Also - lol at Deborah and her 'I could build this for 42k'. I suspect at some time some poor dev has sat in front of her and heard the brief of 'I just need a simple photo sharing app...'
@remonakkermans5220 Жыл бұрын
Wel lyou can build this for less than 42k I would even say it takes max 10k including testing.
@thomasdalton1508 Жыл бұрын
What is the revenue model? Their website just says to contact them for pricing.
@trunderwood Жыл бұрын
@@thomasdalton1508 there’s a pricing page. It’s basically a combination of impressions and seconds of video, which starts at around $0.0005
@thomasdalton1508 Жыл бұрын
@@trunderwood The pricing page just says to contact them for a quote. Where are you looking?
@thefonzkiss6 ай бұрын
You could 100% build it for half of that. You just need an engine and a database with timecodes and information.
@amandadonaldson8748 Жыл бұрын
It's always nice when the Dragons see the potential in a product and offer some good advice, even if they don't feel comfortable investing.
@SiriusMined Жыл бұрын
Deborah doesn't understand how much software development costs
@jbird4478 Жыл бұрын
@@kos15280 No, but you don't develop it anew for every client. You need the same number of devs regardless of how many customers you have.
@Jayrage Жыл бұрын
@@kos15280 Yeah, Deborah is clearly wildly out of touch with this lol.
@carpii Жыл бұрын
whats the point of increasing sales if your margin is crushed by her 50%. Id be surprised if its not underwater with that split, especially since the retailer is left dealing with all the costly returns
@b-dogs1038 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Make more sales but at what cost?! Blimey
@jamiebrown6194 Жыл бұрын
Still in business and very successful. She was named in Forbes top 30 under 30!
@da3v1ls93 Жыл бұрын
Terrible business model
@joewas2225 Жыл бұрын
I call bullshit.
@jamiebrown6194 Жыл бұрын
@@joewas2225 Look it up.
@raveninnsbruck9166 Жыл бұрын
@@jamiebrown6194 You look it up bozo. The business is not successful at all. Current net worth of £28,144! Assets and cash flow have been on a dramatic fall the past few years, meanwhile liabilities have increased to almost £100k (£96,307 to be exact). This business isn’t the only thing she has going though, which is probably why she has Forbes interest.
@kamma44 Жыл бұрын
@@raveninnsbruck9166 Somebody doesn't know how to read financial statements? Must be that 'bozo' Raven? Balance sheet - Total assets less current liabilities.
@AWOOGO Жыл бұрын
50% of sales is a huge big deal no matter what. Even a superbowl ad that gurenteed tons of sales wouldn't justify 50%. that is a joke of a number
@7th.trumpet Жыл бұрын
Jenny "Hi I'm Jenny, I've been wearing this same dress for 5yrs and live in a one bedroom flat in Glasgow...I'm out !".
@rodbodnod Жыл бұрын
Kelly wouldn't buy an app that turned water into wine-to say that she never opens her wallet is a profound euphemism.
@austinpibworth172 Жыл бұрын
Crazy model even way back then. You think now, even my grandmother could build these features with the abundance of tech products on the market
@kbeesmot9928 Жыл бұрын
Hark at Meaden, she clearly doesn't understand the idea but doesn't want to look daft. So she waffles and declares she out. At least when the others dont understand a product, they admit it and then say 'out'.
@danielvanr.8681 Жыл бұрын
3:37 Duncan Campbell be like "are ya away in de head, lassie?!" 😂🤣(Edit: I've since learnt that his surname is Bannatyne. My bad.)
@remonakkermans5220 Жыл бұрын
A tag or overlay on a video with a symbolic link to the product? I do not like to sound like Peter Jones here but this app / site integration system I can build within a week. Not worth the licensing fee let alone the profit share.
@zxylo786 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy. You would need to double your sales for this to be worth it. I fully agree that it isn't a good idea
@mikafairystar2 ай бұрын
50% of sales is crazy! They have to sell 100,000k to break even of the yearly fee, she takes 50% not of profit but sales. The other 50% has to pay for the product, marketing, staff, production, shipping, rent, etc. many companies would be at a loss.
There was a similar product On Shark Tank US but she didn't get a deal if I remember correctly
@Ziggykitty666 Жыл бұрын
They must not have given a showy performance there, that’s all that matters over there.
@pianoflat Жыл бұрын
So no song and dance act?
@beavis4763 Жыл бұрын
It would be more appealing for large companies if she gave 2 options. 1. £44k yearly fee for support and maintenance or 2. Offer the app for free but with a 10% or 15% commission on all sales through the app.
@remonakkermans5220 Жыл бұрын
Might work, the app itself can be created with 10k total and that is where the real problem is. That said, large corpo's might go for it.
@alrighty6898 Жыл бұрын
KZbin can you please add in the feature to hide comments. I don’t like to click on a video and see a comment that spoils the video
@jamesstead2256 Жыл бұрын
Then dont read them
@jinx8624 Жыл бұрын
If u paid that fee for 10 years that is 420000 Does she really think that having that app will generate the company 840000 over the course of 10 years because remember she also wants to take 50% of all the sales and thats just to break even smh
@jordancambridge4106 Жыл бұрын
She just pitched Pay Pal and Patreon to these guys.
@jakejoselitoramirez59887 ай бұрын
Big licensing fees are a major turn off and barrier
@dani15sports Жыл бұрын
I don’t think any of the dragons understood the buying market, probably for the first time ever I’ve seen! There’s many big corporates that I’ve even worked for that pay way more than what she’s offering
@SiriusMined Жыл бұрын
exactly
@mullah4638 Жыл бұрын
They don't you do So 50% off millions earned just to give half away 🙄
@neonwired4978 Жыл бұрын
bullcrap
@rjmunt Жыл бұрын
Shut up Dani, you're out of your element - Walter Sobchak
@dani15sports Жыл бұрын
@@mullah4638 it’s 50% of selected earnings within a entity not your entire sales revenue
@ianoliver7271 Жыл бұрын
So Karoline left the Den pitched off!!😁!!
@tamas59312 күн бұрын
She did a lot of things right
@JJW410Ай бұрын
3:38 THE MAN'S LOOK 😂😂
@conneljp Жыл бұрын
Guys, the 50% sales was obviously a verbal typo. Most companies do not make anywhere near 50% profit on sales. How could a company survive if it was LOSING money to Karoline's company every year?
@conneljp Жыл бұрын
50% of profit is realistic, although still crazy
@bvds2007 Жыл бұрын
Flawless delivery
@gdog7391 Жыл бұрын
Is her name Anna Delvey?
@punjabiexplorer Жыл бұрын
she was recently nominated for noble prize in economics
@dannemannen18 Жыл бұрын
How noble
@BenjaminGoose Жыл бұрын
You mean Nobel, surely?
@raveninnsbruck9166 Жыл бұрын
Why? Her business isnt very successful at all
@SvPVids Жыл бұрын
That elevator is so fake
@BenjaminGoose Жыл бұрын
You've just realised?
@jamesstead2256 Жыл бұрын
The whole show is all fake
@alrighty6898 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesstead2256 then don’t watch it
@ruperttristanblythe7512 Жыл бұрын
Why are these people prohibited from selling their products on street stalls and let the public choose whether to buy? Why do they have to give half their business away?
@chrishansen4810 Жыл бұрын
Give me $ 20k i will develop the whole system and give it away forever
@tamas59312 күн бұрын
‘seriously investable individual’ is the most pretentious thing anyone could say
@pandisunartoandi6694 Жыл бұрын
Semoga pak bu sehat selalu
@kathleenlock8963 Жыл бұрын
I think she's pricing herself out of the market. She said for a business to have a developer make that program for them would cost 150,000, but even if that's accurate, it would only be a one time cost. With her it's a continual cost of $42,000 every year, she's either naive or greedy.
@kamma44 Жыл бұрын
Well after 10 years her company is still trading and she has an impressive list of clients, including LVMH, Valentino and Barbour. What do you have Ms Entrepreneur?!
@zxylo786 Жыл бұрын
@@kamma44 What even is Valentino and Barbour?
@mirianadimitrova2112 Жыл бұрын
@@kamma44 I doubt they signed in under those 50% she pitched.
@caitlinx3816 Жыл бұрын
They know way more than you would ever know Danni 🤦🏻♀️🤣🤣
@thefonzkiss6 ай бұрын
She re-invented PopUp Video
@markbrown-sb2zm Жыл бұрын
I think she was excellent,very confident,smart answers.I hope does astoundingly well and sure she will.
@kamma44 Жыл бұрын
Why hope when you can look it up?!
@elastronaute1198 Жыл бұрын
she did.
@devarajn5910 Жыл бұрын
Which year was this pitch made ? Any iOS expertised developer could build this in 2023 in few months 😅
@alrighty6898 Жыл бұрын
42k/year for this is ridiculous I could do it for a lot less. It’s basically a modal with a link lol
@Locutus Жыл бұрын
Damn, she was incredibly credible! I remember years ago reading about similar technology with MPEG4 videos, where you could see a car, click on the Ford logo, and it takes you to Ford's website.
@DaveWhoa Жыл бұрын
you don't have to pay $42k per year and lose 50% of your revenue for MP4
@grandexporter Жыл бұрын
42k a year or 50 % of sales one or the other... Not both..
@benleah47833 ай бұрын
I could build a pretty fleshed MVP of this in roughly 3-4 weeks.
@Vladishit_Putler Жыл бұрын
"more targeted product placement for monetization" ... yea we really need more of it ...
@animefan7424 Жыл бұрын
Well it’s better than crappy ads we don’t care about
I agree with Deborah Meaden that the annual licensing fee is too close to the development cost. Even if she claimed 0% of sales thereafter, the licensing fee alone is very cheeky. I can't imagine what she was thinking to pitch her costs so high.
@vinkobosnyak4463 Жыл бұрын
Too greedy much?!
@TYNEPUNK Жыл бұрын
Im an app developer, could develop this for less than £20k.
@TheEsotericProgrammer6 ай бұрын
The costs come from your work though so ofc you could. Also, this was 10 + years sgo
@pablothomas52 Жыл бұрын
The more I watch dd, the more I think its mostly just a revolving door for ideas that the dragons don't have think up themselves. Oh its a good idea but it could be developed cheaper ...hint- hint.
@markwhigham99742 ай бұрын
Surprised she didn't charged the dragons for her time😂
@helpfulron Жыл бұрын
Where are they now? The company is still around with £310,255 in current assets and £96,307 in current liabilities. It has a net worth of £28,144. Credit to Mr. Raven Innsbruck for the research.
@raveninnsbruck9166 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. £310,255 in current assets. £96,307 in current liabilities. The company only has a net worth of £28,144!
@helpfulron Жыл бұрын
@@raveninnsbruck9166 Thank you kind sir.
@BenjaminGoose3 ай бұрын
@@raveninnsbruck9166 WRONG!
@Kcarneirowashere Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait til season 15 comes on in the US so I can possibly get a spot on the tank. I’m excited and my idea is better then all of these entrepreneurs 😛
@nightingalebloom1801 Жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@BarmyTwubble Жыл бұрын
It's face in the lift ruined it for me before it even came out and spoke
@viernes-5 Жыл бұрын
I am afraid won't be commenting. I am out 🤤
@rachmadsuhartono Жыл бұрын
Is she touching on the video of an ipad?
@prodigalparties Жыл бұрын
Living in a world of her own lol she’s basically wanting the penny and the bun
@ianoliver7271 Жыл бұрын
I've just got one comment - wots app?😁!
@CroatianComplains Жыл бұрын
1:40 "Pizz Linny" it's pronounced pEez lRnE
@David_Mc_Our_God_Reigns7 ай бұрын
😮😮😮😮😮
@ic1815 Жыл бұрын
Baby these veneers are *not* working you 😂😩
@jamielee4743 Жыл бұрын
The company is worth £642000 currently. So not too bad
@elbentzo Жыл бұрын
Firstly, can you provide a source? What I've found places them at under 100k after liabilities. Secondly, even if you're right, that's still VERY bad. They've raised just under a million dollars (which over 6 years is an astounding failure in the adtech space, where even preseed funding rounds are in the millions). Their worth should be about 50 times greater than what you've posted to justify the funding they've taken. Apart from the fact she was featured in Forbes, this is a complete and utter failure the likes of which you see four times a day if you work in the industry.
@remonakkermans5220 Жыл бұрын
The current net worth of £28,144 liabilities has increased to £96,307 according to the most current data i have seen.
@kamma44 Жыл бұрын
@@remonakkermans5220 Someone doesn't know how to read a financial statement?!
@Jasper-Holland Жыл бұрын
50%? Lmao
@Kiwi-ICU-RN Жыл бұрын
She’s actually doing really well, and was written about in Forbes, so…🤷🏼♂️
@peaky2372 ай бұрын
Damn she fine.
@DanielMooreDJ Жыл бұрын
I can do this to any video within 5 minutes. It’s just a button with a bit of coding over a video
@jamesstead2256 Жыл бұрын
very true
@mirianadimitrova2112 Жыл бұрын
Yep, good idea, but not worth anywhere near 42K a year, let alone 50% of profits. I'm surprised KZbin hasn't developed something similar already.
@josephmcdonnell402 Жыл бұрын
Smart - classy - gorgeous She will go far & fast Good luck to this girl 🍀
@wootle Жыл бұрын
What does "gorgeous" have to do with it. If she was not good looking would you have said the same.
@josephmcdonnell402 Жыл бұрын
@@wootle yes I would have,she was very very impressive,if it was shallow of me to add I found her attractive,then I understand. I still found her very impressive and confident
@moogleking Жыл бұрын
This is a too expensive application lol
@seekeroftruth8658 Жыл бұрын
Very expensive, very unuseful 💀
@opulentpi Жыл бұрын
she sounds like Anna Delvey from the movie.
@hahab9379 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what's her of?
@codysorel74862 ай бұрын
Can I get a shout out from the people who think any of these ideas featured here are good?
@tianshi2006 Жыл бұрын
Why is Deborah even on this show. She rarely invests.......
@thabangkhatide2041 Жыл бұрын
Let's go
@CouldBeSaladFingers Жыл бұрын
where?
@boludoescoces Жыл бұрын
£42k a year would only get you one decent software developer (maybe two, in those days), so it's actually quite reasonable. The 50% revenue share though... feels a bit steep.
@tmaddgh69627 ай бұрын
Sounds very robotic
@JackTheLad1991 Жыл бұрын
Her teeth are better than the app
@samosa112 Жыл бұрын
It's much cheaper on Fiverr 😀
@24cimbo Жыл бұрын
At 8.31...the man always be a man😎😜
@nettiebetti1484 Жыл бұрын
Borriiiing
@mickharrison9004 Жыл бұрын
She d have more chance of getting 100 k ,indecent proposal 😉😋😀
@Firedancer100 Жыл бұрын
Ethereum 💰
@dodoltaladodol2412 Жыл бұрын
Not often do you see smarts together with looks. They didn't invest in her just because she's too smart
@kirbyhatesincels917 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually extremely common, you’re just chronically online.
@TheEsotericProgrammer6 ай бұрын
Dont think youd be saying that if you walked around a unis computer science departmentb@@kirbyhatesincels917
@Mogamishu Жыл бұрын
Is she shaved?
@CouldBeSaladFingers Жыл бұрын
hope there's some deepfakes out there of her
@DavidYoel13 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@DavidYoel13 Жыл бұрын
Finally a comment that makes sense
@DavidYoel13 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you made my day
@thevalkyrie8 Жыл бұрын
You have a low, almost primitive, consciousness
@brentfu1119 Жыл бұрын
Greed.
@moishe43 Жыл бұрын
not even listening to her. Hubba hubba....
@kirbyhatesincels917 Жыл бұрын
Yikes.
@cl4231 Жыл бұрын
Maybe not with Donald trump cards. Everyone will buy. Not.
@RockyDave Жыл бұрын
Boring presentation today. I'm not going to comment. Out.
@charlisays Жыл бұрын
Is this really old? This technology is already embedded into Instagram, TikTok etc with plug in catalogues and in platform checkout. I can't see the market.
@Vladishit_Putler Жыл бұрын
Instagram has this product placement feature for free...