THIS ONE TRICK LITERALLY SAVED MY LINEART

[@SomeNormalArtist]

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[@TNinja0]

I didn't even know Best Buy sponsors people

[@hassassinator8858]

@@TNinja0 They sponsor the Best people

[@machuag4884]

Hey ! thank you so much for sharing your knowledge again, very nice tutorial ! could you send a link to get your lineart brushed ? it would be amazing ! thanks again !

[@jerrycoob4750]

Yo Normal, what music did'ja use in this vid? I'd love to listen to it for my art

[@juliaalvarez537]

Your videos have helped me with my art so much like literally thank you-

[@vommy_vom]

1. Do not zoom in all the way 2. Do not push your pen too hard 3. Make sure your not sketching your lines. Do it in one stork . Practice lines.

[@Mirdehoo]

One stork 👌

[@spritedrink7617]

One stork 👌

[@Styxintheriver]

One stork 👌

[@VuKohl]

One stork 👌

[@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376]

2 stork ✌️

[@sadia6503]

zooming in excessively is one of those sins that no one really mentions when getting into digital art so I'm glad you covered it! I generally render completely zoomed out but ngl I wanted to try a really detailed lined piece and committed that mistake and it turned out very questionable. This was a really nice vid! Edit: I thought I'd add on to this since I seem to have missed mentioning it but there is definitely a time and a place for zooming in. I just speak from my own personal experience when I say that something that made my lines smoother personally was staying more zoomed out throughout the process and then cleaning it up afterwards while zoomed in. Not to attack the idea of zooming at all, I think it's very helpful too :)

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

Well, zooming in is great for mobile phones, small tablets, and generally working on details. Well, "sins" is probably metaphorical, so I won't go on about how debunked religion is (thankfully materialism atheism dogma is debunked too). People can zoom in as they please. I guess you don't like it. Many like me prefer the zoom wheels and such. To each their own. Various artists have various methods. Some prefer little to no line art and work with shapes instead. Etc.

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

Plus, he doesn't like his line art, but I love it. So, he's pessimistic and overly analytical. So, I wouldn't take his advice on the zooming here and the line art anyways. Lmfao. The one he says much better is actually not as nice as the one he calls an abomination.

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

But it's also not for digital art, he says it's for line art. As I said, plenty use zoom in, and plenty paint while zooming in. Heavy lines is a style in itself too. So, some of what you both say is ridiculous. But whatever. Lol.

[@sadia6503]

@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked hello, I appreciate your input on this but I'm just talking about reliance versus proper use. Of course zooming in is a great tool, but I speak from personal experience when I say that it can be a problem at times. I much prefer how I do lines now where I don't generally zoom in unless something important needs to be fixed because it makes my lines much more smooth. But on my phone, it was super useful for me because phone screens are small and difficult to work with. That's more or less helpful depending on the style your going for and your preferences, I'm trying to work on my composition skills so I find staying zoomed out helpful There are many lovely variations on line art and unlined art and this is just one particular artist's type. I'm guessing you don't mesh well with this style so I wish you luck looking for a style you do prefer :)

[@marcozolo3536]

That's why as a beginner I'd recommend Illustrator over Photoshop. Master Illustrator first and you don't ever have to worry about lineart looking pixelated as you zoom in since you are working with vectors. You can zoom in as far as you want. With raster images the bane is too little detail the more you zoom in and as a force of habit most artists are perfectionist and want that added detail the more they zoom in. I feel it takes more mastery to become comfortable with pixelation and be able to work within those confines. Your art will certainly face a steeper learning curve with Photoshop than Illustrator

[@jojo.mp3]

But Drawing with sketchy lines can also make your art look more alive and less ‘digitally’ if executed properly. It really depends on style. But overall I don’t think it’s a bad thing

[@LinceSensei]

true

[@FrootDeMoN]

I agree

[@mrwizzygiorosales7930]

Most definitely

[@maggie3060]

Yep it's a stylistic thing. My book on retro cartooning (think like fairly odd parents) says to use thick outside lines. I think the advice for any art style is to ask yourself "how will this affect the end product. Will this mesh well with my goal for this piece."

[@battilinn8523]

he doesnt word it all that well but there is worlds of difference between doing lots of tiny lines to create one big one and a single smooth, clean line. i have a sketchier style and it looks a lot nicer. ofc if youre going for a sorta horror esque, scribbled style it works but thats when youre actively going against the rules. in general it looks nicer, also its better for your hand! also also its kinda silly to do if you already do a sketch layer, and then do that over top

[@PikRabbit]

"This art looks ugly" The art: *god quality* "But this art is way better" The art: *Also god quality*

[@belshazzarsf3ast]

The lineart was fucking ugly as he said.

[@PolenCannotIntoSpace]

It usually looks different for the artist that’s why

[@julievrhackzor]

@@PikRabbit to an extent

[@catmail6361]

You can notice what he meant by ugly lineart tho

[@jtamiing559]

Your lack of attention to fine detail is why clout chasers with dumb opinions exist The lines are thinner on softer areas like skin (some areas) and hair

[@sheppin_]

It's always good to remember that sketchy/messy/thick lineart is also valid and can look very beautiful! You want to use different types of lineart for different purposes. If your art is more shading dependent, then you'll want thinner and cleaner lines. If your art is more graphic and cartoony with less shading, you'll have more wiggle room for messier and thicker lines.

[@lynn4840]

i know that another certain popular art youtuber talked about this, but i do think it's important to add here: if you're a manga/anime fan & have ever wondered why in some anime, they don't capture the personality present in the manga, this is why!! there's a reason it's extremely rare for animation to have very sketchy or painterly art styles; it's absurdly difficult to animate something with a lot of intricate details, so more often than not, the linework for animation needs to be super clean. but what lends the manga that personality is often that very same sketchy style that the manga artist uses. it's sort of a catch 22; the same cleanness that makes it easier to animate is the same thing that makes it lose that personality that was so beloved in the manga version. just something to keep in mind. c:

[@SoulGuitarMetal]

​@@lynn4840 It is very rare for manga to have sketchy art too even when done traditionally. Manga inking is very clean. The only difference is that is has more thickness variation but not really sketchy.

[@kuroro9949]

@@SoulGuitarMetal Well, when HxH started it was really sketchy, and I kinda like it, but with time it seems manga started to need to be cleaner too, so the style of the manga got cleaner too. It's the only older Manga I've read so I don't know if it was juste Togashi's choice or if it's an actual trend that went on. Just wondering.

[@wida13]

@@SoulGuitarMetal look at jujutsu kaisen manga super sketchy lines

[@mihaelatrpevski3857]

I don't actually have a style when drawing digitally because I want to try different techniques and brushes such as cartoony style and more detailed style So I am learning how to do better lineart when it comes to anime and manga

[@girlweird833]

If my lineart looked like your “bad” one, I’d be so happy.

[@keith_gz]

Thank you for saying this lol

[@mrjanssen3856]

Same

[@Thatboijjay23]

IKR _

[@kitkatmelon]

Same

[@julyol119]

True. I have a tremor in my hand. Have tried for years with exercise and stuff to get rid of it. But even if I nail the line confidently, it's still going to be uneven. So I basically stopped doing lineart completely and I'm pretty happy with my lineless art.

[@ArtOfShannonLee]

To anyone who doesn’t see how the first version is “ugly”. He means his lines were thick without purpose; he drew thick lines by default and lines of different weights weren’t placed with intention. Thick lines aren’t necessarily an issue but he didn’t have everything equally thick in a way that served the piece. Instead, he had lines so thick it chopped off some of the form of the fingers etc. which is why he hates the fingers- the line weight he used by default was too thick to capture the delicate look he wanted for them and they ended up looking like hands but not the young, cute ones he wanted and probably captured in the looser sketch. Conversely, his preferred line work still has some thick lines! But it’s intentional line weight variation as the thickest lines all have a purpose! They’re on the eyelashes for emphasis and wherever shadows are cast. Note how in the previous one, the thicker lines are disorganised- there are thick lines around the top of the hand but not the top of the shirt- even though each would be equally well lit- and it makes for a less clean look because it’s less deliberate. There’s nothing wrong with thick lines in general! It’s just not what served his illustrations, where he’s better off being intentional about where the thicker lines go.

[@apollidoe6651]

Fantastic analysis, thank you so much!

[@ArtOfShannonLee]

@@apollidoe6651 no worries at all! Thank you! I was a little concerned that some ppl misinterpreted the video to mean that thicker lines were bad so I wanted to add my 2c to clear that up 😁

[@madixoxo246d6]

Yes! You put it into words very well, I agree.

[@apollidoe6651]

@@ArtOfShannonLee much appreciated, it helped, thank you!

[@jt_manic]

came here to say the same thing. Line weight variation and intention are exactly it!

[@RadicalYue]

My strong armed king, thank you for these tips. I always have these insanely thicc lines and I've always struggled to figure out how to draw thin lines and like, I feel like this is going to be a massive help. Bless you.

[@ElvisRocking1]

Big lines doesn’t mean bad lineart, but if thats not what you wanted then its ok to say that.

[@RadicalYue]

@@ElvisRocking1 Oh for sure, I LOVE some thick lines but I've always wanted to draw thinner.

[@ElvisRocking1]

@@RadicalYue Im glad you figured it out then. Sometimes things bother you and you let them slide but it turns out they have easy fixes. Problem of being self taught.

[@Keni2431]

It’s always best to learn new things once you make it an end you can have fun by redrawing your mistakes like Bob Ross says mistakes are happy accidents

[@mcgeefumblebum4246]

This comment here is me. Like my style is actually perfect for thick lines but Im feeling a style change and I need variety for sure

[@user-li8sr9zo9l]

For people struggling with drawing lines in one stroke and not making them wobbly, something that helped me make my lines a lot cleaner was practicing on actual paper using a pen. Try drawing likes from one point to another using your whole arm to make your strokes. Focus on being confident with the strokes of your pen. You can also practice drawing cubes with this method. Do it before drawing, and you'll improve the confidence of your lines gradually. Edit: Also don't do this on tablet. It'll be a lot more useful to you if you do this with a pen and paper because you won't be able to erase.

[@TheMassConqueror]

@Ratio lmao

[@user-li8sr9zo9l]

@Ratio lol

[@siddharthpatil2683]

Or you could just increase the stabilization, no practice necessary lol.

[@HammyNotFat]

@Ratio I hope that works for me too

[@mikan0347_]

But I use my fingr (thumb actually)

[@Mister.O]

i am basically just a rookie when i comes to lineart so these tips are helping a lot already! My main struggle is finding the balance between thick and thin lines, but that takes practice of course. Tnx a lot!

[@enzie8786]

In order to avoid the awkwardness of the sketch to lineart mess, I did smth that i found works really well for me. I start with a very light and loose sketch, then keep overlining and adjusting the spots that will be closer to the final look until i have a relatively dark and thick line there that can’t be overlined anymore. From there I erase the surrounding sketchy lines and use a soft eraser to make the thick line thinner. And finally, I can keep adding thickness in some places on that line and erasing others to make it cleaner and add variety. In the end, I’m left with a lineart-like line without having to struggle with doing ACTUAL lineart, which is something that’s always been immensely difficult for me.

[@margaritamikalauskaite9875]

I like your method and I have done it before but I found it took me ages to go in and erase everything without leaving rough bits

[@ytttttt411]

as a person that did traditional art for many many many years and started drawing digitally quite recently, pressing hard is okay to me because i have the balance and know how hard i have to push to create a line i need, my lineart always ends up looking extremely clean in the end, just pros of doing a shit ton of traditional art...

[@captainstroon1555]

My biggest problem with lineart is that I don't know which brush to use. I'm currently most comfortable drawing the lines with a coloring brush because all the specialized lineart brushes I tried tend to have very low opacity on fine lines, which then resulted in me pressing harder, which then in turn resulted in thick lines again. And in hand pain.

[@ignightroad]

That's the best part of pens: you can tweak them to your liking! if you find you're pressing harder because of the brush, then tweak the pressure on it OR search for brushes and try a bunch out on a simple sketch, like a few lines of hair and see which feels the best.

[@ranggasetya1984]

"the lines looks thick and GROSS" *me who likes using thick lines :"(

[@naniidoodles]

Oh nyuu he meant according to his style and what he wants

[@Jmarron529]

Thick lines are good for certain styles, and if you plan on dipping into animation, they can actually be better then thinner lines

[@ArtOfShannonLee]

His lines were thick without purpose- he didn’t have everything equally thick in a way that served the piece, he had lines so thick it chopped off some of the form of the fingers etc. there’s nothing wrong with thick lines! It’s just not what served his illustrations.

[@FrootDeMoN]

I personally prefer thicker lineart When done right it can look really cool and it can make the character pop alot I also really don't like the whole " thiner the lineart better the work" tip because this doesn't apply to every artist and artstyles And I actually liked your "bad and gross" lineart way more than your "better" one But again that's just personal preferences 😀

[@SATALIT3]

agreed!

[@altair5072]

there's probably not a single piece of linework advice on this entire planet that could apply to every artist/artstyle, so its not really fair to critique the video on that aspect. lineart and style are things very personal to the artist. if you're looking for advice on thinner, smooth lines, great! if not, also great! its all finding what works for you

[@allanredhill8682]

it depends on how the thick lines are used imo. You can use line thickness to accentuate form or imply lighting, and it can really add to the depth of a piece. A anime that does this insanely well is demon slayer. But if the lines are just really thick with no methodology it can end up looking pretty flat (tho, ofc that can be a stylistic choice too)

[@FrootDeMoN]

@@altair5072 nah I wasn't really criticising him I just said my own opinion I loved his video actually alot 😀

[@FrootDeMoN]

@@allanredhill8682 I agree

[@renr9769]

I've watched a lot of tutorials and rarely do I see people address line art weight or changing up how hard to press your pen so this was super helpful to me! Sometimes the simpler stuff like that is what really makes a huge impact on the piece overall as you've shown us. Thank you for sharing!

[@harshbarj]

Honestly the two drawings simply look like different styles. I'm not sure one could say one is "better" than the other. Both look fine. I know when I draw some lines I draw thin and others thick. It's more about consistency than anything. If your lines wobble or the thickness varies that's a problem. But if your draw consistent lines, that alone will make your drawings pop.

[@bloomfui5103]

I saw a lineart video by a tiktoker that said "make light long strokes" and I realized how heavy handed I was! It's crazy how something so small can make a HUGE change in your lineart!

[@naniidoodles]

Dropping some gems I see 👀 Oh an ever since I've been pressing lightly and layering my line art for variation, I can draw for longer periods so my wrist won't hurt! Not only will you get better line art following these tips, but you'll avoid injuries from pressing too hard for so long and having a really tight grip on the stylus

[@PowerfulKundalini]

I believe with how the pens are by holding lightly you’re allowing yourself more dynamic range to the pressure of the lineart. Great tip!

[@lawnmower16]

Am I the only one who thinks the bad example looks better than the good example?

[@NeeveeBoogerBurger]

With u right here

[@bigwill4]

I am so glad that somebody has said something about the zooming in for line art, for so long I would zoom all the way in for lineart and it took me so long to realize that it was making my art worse. Really wish I saw this video back then because it really does change so much

[@ArtOfShannonLee]

It’s also WAY better for you! I grip the pen really hard sometimes when I’m anxious and it has led to a repetitive strain injury. Clenching or pressing hard can add to tension in your joints and that was my mistake. I still draw but with a hand brace a lot of the time and I’m better at taking breaks and stretching.

[@diogo763]

It's so interesting seeing how his art evolved trough out these tutorials, all the way from the "how to color anime skin" to now. Looking good tho. Also holding your pen lighter, more like a brush pen instead of a pencil, is healthier for your wrists

[@yuri_nori]

The miku Lineart is actually still pretty beautiful but of course we all have our one preference but both linarts is *chefs kiss*💗💕

[@kentanggulung]

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO, THIS IS GREAT, i was also just figure this trick lately! If I can add one more thing is that "take your time", I figure that I unreasonably rushing with my lineart, all I need to calm down, steady hand and let the stabilizer do their work. Coming from panting basic, I always being too comfortable with rush big brushing instead light lineart, it end up making me "sculp" lineart from sketch instead do the actual clean line art. I applied this trick and my lineart indeed getting better

[@kaizze8777]

I seen pros use super sketchy messy lineart that still sells the merch. But I defo have went from super stiff thick vector lines to thin, crisper and cleaner lineart thanks to not pressing down lol. Doing one stroke at a time and the longer the stroke is what makes me tense up and do it thick. But I adjusted my horizontal tablet to vertical so it feels like I'm drawing on an easel and it's waaaaaaaay better that way for me. Also I have a wacom one but I'm not a beginner lmao

[@neolordie]

yeah I love sketchy lineart, the likes of tokyo ghoul looks so cool to me, but it needs to be a choice, not a limitation, it's important to know and be able to choose when and when not to add thicker or messier lines

[@кружокармреслинга]

Pros get away with sketchy lineart because their drawing is good. Drawing quality>line quality. If you have a good drawing any lineart will look good on it and vice versa best lineart in the world like idk you hired Scott Robertson to ink your drawing wont save a bad drawing anyway

[@karimsabawy1142]

Dude I guess you are going hard on yourself both line arts are top quality may god bless you for your helpful tutorial I wish I may get my line art as close as yours one day stay positive and enjoy your art journey

[@boots1622fan]

i love that kind of manga style... i usually skip lineart because i hate it and feel like painting helps me visualize the piece in 3d space but what you do here adds a lot of dimension too even tho its just lines

[@artistsayi]

I’m definitely guilty of bad Line-art. Which is why I’m focusing on learning quality skills. I’m tracking my progress on my channel, and you’ve definitely showed me I have a long way to go. Thanks for the tips!

[@razororder9493]

i started doing this not too long ago and it helps so much!! my older art all had lineart that was thick without much variation and i couldn't figure out why it looked bad for so long, now i draw everything lightly first then go back and make the outlines thicker while keeping the inner details thin it takes much more time but it looks beautiful

[@Inyobedfool]

Your php is slay

[@wispravine]

I wanted to ask if you guys know about vector layers in csp? Using them really helped with my lineart. You can do a ton of different stuff with them, but my favorite feature is the ability to thicken or thin out your lines AFTER you make them. You can also change the brush texture, and if you wanna make any adjustments, resizing won’t make anything blurry. The program will see it more as an object than a brush stroke. There are other things but they help a LOT and I’ve been using vector layers for my line art exclusively ever since I found this out. Given this video is all about line thickness and getting lineart to look dynamic and correct, I thought I’d mention it. Especially because being able to thin out lineart overall sounds like it would have helpd the problem you had. Even though you’ve figured out how to fix it, since many people still struggle with lineart I thought I’d just put this here

[@SpringySpring04]

Wow, the change from hard pressure to light pressure is really cool! It was hard to tell because I'm not a huuuge professional at art, but I could tell it was definitely noticeable I also didn't skip the promo, I really like drawing tablets, I think I'm gonna try to get one sometime soon

[@ДокторЯдо]

So many videos from so many artists on the subject, and only yours is actually useful.

[@ThedGrill]

Oof as someone who is like really hard struggeling with lineart and actually thinking that I just dont do Lineart anymore this hurts. Even the "Clunky" Version as you described it looks way better than my best Linarts. I am just at the point where I just dont do Lineart anymore because I get so frustrated. But yeah I am also more a Painter than a Lineart person, and I enjoy the process of rendering my Illustrations with 3D Shapes.

[@sheridanmcavoy3817]

everyone is at a different stage of their art journey and each with their own unique style. The longer you go and the more you do, the better you'll get~ Don't give up on doing them, or else, you won't improve QwQ Gl, fren

[@frickinfrick8488]

You don’t have to do line art if you hate it lol. It’s absolutely not a necessary step for every artist, if you wanna go down the route of coloured sketches or paintings that’s perfectly acceptable.

[@common6265]

Dude. I just tried this for a little bit just to see if itll work and i can never go back. This is amazing! Thank you 😭❤

[@__3liot]

i like thick lineart tbh

[@themaskedfacade9939]

I love how you're showing art and talking about how one looks super clunky and I can't see anything wrong with it lmao. Shows I have a long way to go!

[@malakaithedemigod]

Honestly, I did think lines early in my digital art career, over time I jut started going thinner and made lines thicc when necessary, thicc lines for subtle details and thicc ones for certain borders and for dimensions in your art

[@williamperkins4279]

When drawing in black and white such manga etc. A thicker line can help to bring attention to the focal character as well.thinner lines are good for background elements that are not the focal point and adding the nice little details. When starting and drawing it's good to have a zoomed out full body dynamic sketch layout first using fluid light lines and shapes getting the feeling and gesture down then fleshing out the elements then zooming in when necessary.

[@mysteriz_madi]

It's probably cause I generally perfer cartoony styles, but I perfer the thicker lineart. The thinner lineart is good for a more realistic style (which I think is what he's going for). Good video 👍.

[@azurestar3417]

Woah, I literally bought the Wacom One yesterday since it was on special at my local store. Glad to see you recommend it!

[@chaon93]

7:25 Someone gonna tell this guy that with CSP if he draws in vector he gets this neat tool called "redraw line thickness"? This message brought to you by "I can't do raster lineart worth a damn and use vector lineart as a crutch gang"

[@DarkMoon2476]

3:25 "it looks super bad" (me thinking oh wow that looks really good i wish i could draw like that :O)

[@Lewillust]

It looks MILES better now, just 1 tip: making the silhouette lines a bit thicker will give a special pop to that character, it really makes a difference!

[@yume2626]

omg your line quality looks really really good, the demo at the end truly demonstrated that. look i dont wanna be that guy but can you please share the line brush? LOL. its so wispy and your pressure control is just sublime *chef kiss

[@Dinahsour]

TYSM! YOUR THE BEST- I'm sure this is gonna be good!

[@K0IBEE]

bro this actually fixed my art block i hate doing lineart but i never considered i could do this , this is rlly helpful

[@fluxwise]

ngl, that blep + fangs at the start lookin' hella cute My bias really enjoys the early Miku's thicker lineart, but it's not as thick as stuff I would do I wish I could set up the program to prevent me from going past 100% zoom, I can only get it to stop the magnifier zooming, but scroll zooming still makes me go past it But I think I've gotten better at not zooming in way too much unless for small details

[@NegaKill13]

The clunky lineart looks way better than my "literally all lines have the same density" thing i end up with when i do it

[@sotoriya9810]

what's your opinion on using stabilization? do you think it's a good tool if you are not very comfortable doing confident strokes or does it make lines too much inorganic? i've heard a lot of different statements on this so i was curious

[@16ShiningUmbreon]

Since no one has replied to you yet I’ll just give you my opinion. I have my smoothness/stabilization at 16%. It’s just enough to smooth out any wonkyness but it doesn’t take away from my gesture. Experiment and see what you like. :)

[@ignightroad]

Stabilization is there for a reason! I do my lineart on S-3 or S-5 usually (SAI). I have naturally shaky hands and it helps a ton.

[@RiniiFluff]

Don't know whether you still would like a reply but I'm just gonna say one anyway. I use max stabilization (Procreate) and I find it helps me achieve the clean look I like with my art. It also removes all the wobbliness I have with my digital lines in comparison to my traditional. It all depends on the type of linework that you want to achieve though. I've heard of artists that don't even use linework, and instead just use a neatened sketch.

[@colehaney8836]

I’m glad I’m not alone in that a lot of my motivations for artistic choices is “idk it just looks cool”

[@tejeraillustrator3810]

Since I was a kid ive pressed uppon the paper with my pencils as if I was trying to make a hole through the table, so Ive had the same problems with controlling lineweight on my tablet. I havent watched the video yet but I hope this helps me.

[@caleightilson8030]

Yes! Draw gently!! That's like the first thing I learned in art school

[@MattRBX]

"dont zoom in all the way" people with 1080p screen tablets (me): gaussian blur = 100

[@moxikyutube6924]

Literally everything you said not to do is everything I was doing. I'm so glad I watched this video, I'll probably watch others but for now, I must thank you for making this!

[@noxanneballadynasowacka6125]

I was originally going to type, "but the Miku line art looks far better?" Then I imagined myself coloring it and immediately realized how obnoxious and annoying it would be to mask a line art this thick (as opposed to the second one) and I started laughing at just how stupid I'd been two minutes ago. Seriously, this is genius.

[@vo7kz]

me: *laughs in draws with mouse* also me: *cries in draws with mouse*

[@SilvyReacts]

Good advice. Another/alternate solution to this (in clip studio paint), you can use a vector layer. You can then adjust line thickness after. Though, I personally don't think it entirely replaces learning to do it properly. But I do think this can be used an additional way to adjust things at a later point for even more refinement.

[@25tundra95]

Whether you adjust the lines afterwards or make lines with different sizes doesnt matter. The outcome is indistinguishable. It is just a pixel value increasing and decreasing.

[@SilvyReacts]

@@25tundra95 Not sure I understand what you mean. Are you disagreeing with or correcting something I said?

[@25tundra95]

@@SilvyReacts im correcting

[@SilvyReacts]

@@25tundra95 On what exactly? I am still confused?

[@25tundra95]

@@SilvyReacts You say you dont think that adjusting line thickness on a vector layer replaces learning to do it "properly". But there is no difference between doing the lineart manually or adjusting it on a vector layer. If i plan to have lines thicken at a certain point i can either press down harder with my pen or i adjust it on my vector layer. There is no difference at the end.

[@theprocrastinator6813]

another cool thing about lineart is that theres different approaches to doing it, like drawing it in a way where the thicker lines are where the darker shadows are. since the light is hitting at a particular angle. some artists use this kind of technique for their lineart which gives it a really nice result too. completely optional though, although it can help alot with character designs with detailed outfits (like armor for example) , since it lets you make each part look more distinct from each other so they dont clash with each other as easily

[@AJSketches]

I have a problem with my lineart looking too clean, like thin to thick to thin, too smooth, I feel like I need a brush that isn't the built in brush, but I can't find anything that works well thats free since I can't really afford anything rn. I feel like I need a rough brush for variation but I can't find one that looks good with my style

[@Anna-gq9bk]

Do you use vector layers or regular in your lineart. Some aspects of vector are nice but others are frustrating. Great video!!

[@hassassinator8858]

They look like normal layers in the video

[@danowarkills4093]

Probably not vectors because they seem to have varying opacity throughout the same line, not just varied thickness

[@Zyrodil]

"Check out this lineart, it's super bad and clunky-" 💀

[@RED_XLR]

Dood, that "Your favorite artist you're obviously subscribed to" was so quick, witty, and clean/smooth, that it made me subscribe. Now a days u see a lot of youtube videos where it feels like people beg for subs, but no one cares. Especially cuz' of how KZbin works now a days with the recommended system. Barely feels like we have to subscribe at all to keep track of a specific channel's videos. So yea props to you for not being that annoying "please subscribe bla blah blah" type of youtuber. GG EZ ;P

[@kandalpower]

I don't agree with this idea. It depends on the art style. I have read a bunch of mangas and - despite being drawn with thick lines - the arts were beautiful anyway. This video is not useless, but I would say it's just "what you feel right for you and why you feel satisfied in drawing this lighter way, actually". I was used to drawing the thickest lines possible, but my drawing were not bad at all because I wanted them to look traditional, not clean. It's timeconsuming to master a style, and clean art is just one type a person can master. I do like it more than any other, but there's no point in saying it's the only way to create amazing art. Peace.

[@Da_Shrooms]

Another big thing for clean line art is the stabilization setting. I struggled for so long with getting the right curves, because I have very shaky hands for some reason. I literally can't hold them still. But a while back I was in a brush's properties and saw stabilization and it changed my world.

[@danielav.5879]

How was ur bad line art bad 💀

[@tehprotrollboi6472]

i am happy you discovered this discovery to level up your art to the next level, always nice to see people improve

[@TNinja0]

I dunno, I love thick line arts, though.

[@NickGuy0320]

That “old” miku drawing is fine, you’re wilding. It has good line quality, stable and nice variations.

[@theCrazyJohn]

Which brush was used for the lineart?

[@tadashihatsudai]

Oh damn I have a chronic problem with zooming in, and including lineart! A lot of this advice is going to be super useful!!! 💕

[@25tundra95]

please check out vector layers in CSP. It will make your work flow much more flexible.

[@moomooojoos]

Jesus bro, your example for "bad line art" looks freaking amazing man!

[@AccelSternritter]

You're trying to make it sound like thick lines are "bad", wich i disagree with. There's amazing artist out there doing thick lines in their drawings.

[@NicaRox15]

I personally do super thick, cartoony lines - however, the principle of what he's saying still holds true. Regardless of what style you're doing, it's always good to start out thinner and then make it thicker so it has a natural flow to it

[@teamili7957]

Probably for his style he doesn't like thick lines. Thick lines in other's styles can fit really well

[@HiritoKaitsu]

i mean i combine both, works perfectly for me though i am not picking sides but thinner line arts is very clean and the thicker line arts are generally ok if you do it right but i just like to combined them like there's a right spot of the thinnest lines and the thickest which in comparison makes the art itself whole .

[@orangeoog1766]

I'm appreciative of people with the skills sharing their tips and tricks.. But I would love to see a shit artist applying them. Never seen a bad art youtuber growing and improving their art. There's something about going straight from a youtube video of a decent drawing to my dogshit art, it's the least motivational thing ever and I actually suspect it's been making my art worse bc now I'm hyper aware of how crap everything is, before I tried to improve my style I was kinda blissfully ignorant and drawing quite happily.

[@NotALotOfColonial_SpaghettiToG]

Pressing lighter also saves your tablet in the long run.

[@scooip9461]

I just watched this and went to try thin lineart and I can't believe it was just what i needed. Thank you!

[@seikojin]

Good tips. Especially being more mindful about pressure and stroke length.

[@lizardamiibo]

regardless of style its good technique to hold your pen more lightly. its better for your art and for your body. you can get any line weight using this technique, especially with digital art where you can adjust your pen pressure settings.

[@zamachich6255]

I feel so dumb not noticing the difference lineart of both pictures till this day

[@danowarkills4093]

I think I actually prefer the sitting Miku lineart. It looks more confident to me, but then again, I've been told to work on my linart, so maybe I just don't have common sensibilities.

[@austinharuhi3637]

Only with the first tip i notice my art gain so much (I love sketchy style so my lineart sucks), thanks bro

[@rainbowconvers]

Using vector layers really helps with Line art. If u don't have a steady hand, vector helps with fixing it

[@animaegusanimagi2251]

Drop the brushes king 🫣🥴🥴🥴

[@tlewy485]

This boba tea looks better than anything i draw bruh

[@leenadrawz7860]

Am I the only one who thinks the Miku drawing was actually so good-

[@kinghubris2536]

yooo, the issue you had with pressing hard all the time is literally the exact thing I do rn, thanks for the tip dude :D

[@Andee...]

I like the look of sketched lines, or a more "sketchy" artstyle 🤷‍♀

[@mlghardcolt9865]

Something that helped me with lineart was to plan the stroke before touching the paper.

[@ryder1658]

For anyone confused, always keep in mind an artist is giving tips on how they got to where they are on their path! SomeNormalArtist knows what he's talking about and is a great artist, but keep in mind there is never a best way to do anything! Try out what he's saying, or try a different method! A lot of these are good tips, but not all of them will work with every artist/art style! Don't be afraid to experiment though.

[@23aki]

damn the zooming tip literally clicked something in my mind

[@schleepy6362]

I think I definitely see the difference between your two pictures, I'm so happy to find someone with a similar issue to mine. I DREAD lineart every single time because I can never get my lines varied... I gotta try this when I have access to my tablet :D

[@thecosmicgoose]

If your like me and have issues unconsciously pressing to hard, you can adjust the pressure curse of the stylus to be firmer. Might make it a bit easier

[@zackx1]

Nice Tutorial and good advice at the end. Keep up the good work.

[@jilliancrawford7577]

In regards to the zoom-in problem, there's a setting you can toggle on or off to make it so that the brush size isn't effected by how far in you zoom. Unfortunately I don't remember exactly which one. I found it by accident one day and haven't successfully pinpointed it across each tool. Also, the size of the brush tip image marterial matters. I really love the real gpen and its brushtip, but the image material used for the brushtip is very small, so the brush is ugly and doesn't work well after a certain size. I recommend using brushes/tools with large and high-quality image materials because of this.

[@polar6066]

him: i smash my hand thru the screen while drawing me, literally downloading a third party software driver so i could lower the distance and force threshold of my wacom:

[@VentiVonOsterreich]

"This looks better than my previous abomination" The Abomination: *literally 200 times better than anything I've ever drawn in my life*