This Plane has been Forgotten for over 10 Years - DCS World Su-25 T Frogfoot

[@PaVVroo]

Oh trust me, that plane is not DCS's biggest problem. Not even close.

[@louisurquhart9466]

literally haha

[@Bandit_i27]

then what is it? I'm planning on playing it next week

[@Optimaloptimus]

@@Bandit_i27F-15E is my guess.

[@roxout5743]

2024 has been a really rough year for DCS

[@PaVVroo]

@@Bandit_i27 lack of trust between main developer, 3-rd party devs and community

[@networkgeekstuff9090]

Community pressure is way higher for dynamic campaign than this, and we manged to get ED to say "we are working on it" for 13 years now. With this people power, we might get updated su25T somwhere in third millenia.

[@GoldenGnu]

Yes, not even the RAZBAM ordeal could get people to stop buying modules or at least not to the point it made a difference, hence I foresee no chance of success on getting ED to working on their free module. Let’s hope I’m wrong…

[@pteronoid]

but... but.. but we already are in the 3rd millennium... so... next Wednesday then?

[@buscadiamantes1232]

@@pteronoid ...he's so fkcing right!! dude is using 200% of his brain!!!

[@maciejpieskasta493]

@@buscadiamantes1232 LMAO HE ACTUALLY IS, 3 millenium 21 century

[@1over137]

They did introduce a whole bunch of stuff as pre-cursors to dynamic campaign. Like the entire logistics system. Nobody gives that any credit though.

[@awizor]

Su-25 should be full fidelity f2p module as introduction to DCS. Period.

[@hunormagyar1843]

Exactly. I didn't download 100GB of shit just to get a Mustang that doesn't get guns and a Frogfoot that the devs couldn't speak the Russian of or some crap. And then if I *were* to buy an aircraft, it is the cost of like, 2 sorta comparable, full simulators... My wallet isn't cut for that at the moment.

[@JammerDodge]

@@hunormagyar1843 ED are Russian 👍

[@hellcatdave1]

@@hunormagyar1843 What sorta comparable simulators cost 60 dollars and offer what DCS does?

[@hunormagyar1843]

@@hellcatdave1 Il-2 titles for one. I haven't tried getting into... what was it, Falcon 4.0 or something? Flankers? They're some older titles afaik, but you'll see I'm not one to look down on an aged sim either. Keyword: comparable, not same, nor better. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. In some ways they are, for the price, way better than DCS, in some ways, they fall way short. Even Il-2 Great Battles (the modern "flagship Il-2 currently" is overpriced by default, but DCS is crazy, at least in a relativistic sense to other sims. Of course, buying a real aircraft and maintaining it is way more expensive, but in the end these are computer games for the "poor", common people. Il-2 Great Battles' cockpits are not clickable, but they are more or less at least, fully animated to every switch in there. More consistently than in DCS. And it more or less has the best ground handling physics and damage model of all the sims I know of out there. Of course, depends on various factors when this last, slightly bold statement actually holds true. And you can buy six aircraft of matching ww2 theatre and era and a map for the price of a single DCS aircraft... that is not even full fidelity sometimes, which makes it the same in fidelity as Il-2 aircraft or worse when so. The base game costs like 70 euros? I advise waiting for a discount on this one, just like I would with DCS modules. Are there good discounts for DCS modules? Cuz don't get me wrong, I'd like to get into it, that's why I'm writing this pissy comment. And then there's Il-2: Cliffs of Dover. Clickable cockpits, just like DCS. Just a little old unfortunately, but it's DIRT CHEAP at 9 euros and you get like the whole British-Italian-French-German confict. Sure, just one map, two with the DLC. A 3rd DLC is only coming soon, with the US joining the fight I think. Shame its physics fall a little behind Great Battles, in terms of ground handling, most prominently. Still, dirt cheap and offers ten times more than what you buy off DCS for a mere 10 euros. You only get a single Spit for 10 euros in DCS. Then there's the likewise dirt cheap, good ol' Il-2 1946. Hundreds of aircraft, all theatres of WW2 covered, PLUS a huge library of mods that even let you get modern combat. And you just generally get a ton of freedom in that game that modern titles don't offer. Sure, it's not the winner of a graphics competition. But the sheer definition of lag is unknown if you play 1946, it even runs on a pocket calculator. Complete game with all free mods for 9 euros. Of course, multiplayer back in the day was known as LAN parties, so you gotta figure how to work around that one. My point is simple. It is NOT that DCS is inferior to any Il-2 title. It's simply that it is not the only good sim on the market, but certainly the most expensive one. Kinda sad in a way that it's almost unrivaled in terms of the modern side of combat flight simulation.

[@1over137]

@@hunormagyar1843 Then pay for it your free loader.

[@pinkfloyd7572]

The Su-25T is a great plane but it definitely needs some love.

[@bobcoughlan929]

Full fidelity SU-25T would be popular, IMO

[@Rokaize]

Not sure if you could even get that. The T is rare and as far as I know only Russia uses it. The su25 base model would be a much better option I think.

[@bobcoughlan929]

@@Rokaize Base model with a professional flight model would also be cool

[@jstMir]

Impossible to make full fidelty russian planes due to their laws, soviet-era SU-25s are free game though

[@samwise7538]

@@Rokaize It's not even rare, it virtually doesn't exist. It was essentially a tech demonstrator with a tiny, tiny production run. Two were exported to Ethiopia. I don't believe any are still in use at all.

[@louhodo5761]

​@@RokaizeRussia doesn't use the 25T. The 18 that were built, 8 were stripped down to slightly better Su-25As and sold to Ethiopia, and 8 were kept in Russia as trainers also being stripped down. Last 2 were scrapped.

[@tetraxis3011]

I feel like DCS should add more free models. So that the gun-less P51 teaches you how to fly, the Su25T teaches you air to ground, then another plane(maybe something like a Mirage 3) introduces you to dogfighting, then something like the Egyptian variant of the F16(f16 but it only has Aim 7s and aim 9s) introduces you to BVR.

[@CoolDoctorToad]

Then people would buy less modules meaning ED gets less money

[@samwise7538]

I said they should add Mi-2 as a free helicopter. Unarmed but teach people the basics and how good the ED rotary-wing model is. But their current business model could never possibly allow that.

[@gusty844]

bro u can test flight any plane u want for 2 weeks

[@l.a.xgunner]

we really do need an early variant of the F-16

[@tetraxis3011]

@@samwise7538 Ooooo yea, I forgot about Helis. Yea DCS needs a free heli to introduce newcomers to Helicopers.

[@janithawikramasinghe6777]

DCS is great when you first start using it but after a few years you quickly find out how bad the leadership is at ED

[@nateweter4012]

I really wish we could get a high fidelity Su-25 of some variant. One of the big sore spots of DCS is the enormous opportunity/potential that doesn’t seem to be a priority in any notable sense to the dev team.

[@Danissimo321]

To be honest, the whole Russian faction is forgotten. I know that they are unable to make normal version of any modern Russian plane, even Su-27SM, but still. We don't have as good planes for Russia as F-18 or F-16. Even cold war planes are worse than their US counterparts, and I have no idea why. It would be awesome to have detailed Su-27 or MiG-29S(I know they have MiG-29A in development, but they have it for 3 or how many years)

[@testplmnb]

Money

[@hunormagyar1843]

It's very simple; the devs don't speak Russian probably. lmfao I tried the DCS demo but decided upon sticking to Il-2 for now. Those devs are Russian, they speak languages. For the cost of a single DCS module I get a full game with several equally well detailed aircraft. Only downside is the cockpit isn't clickable, "only just" fully animated to every switch... Shame though, I wanted to get DCS exactly for the cockpits and modern jets. I'll buy a module if I get rich, lmfao

[@ivan5595]

Isn't Eagle Dynamics a Russian company that just moved elsewhere?

[@thurbine2411]

They should try to make a mig 23 or 25 or some older plane that is still different from the migs we have but can be modelled very well

[@vavord5181]

​@@thurbine2411 yeah, with that new F4E module, MiG23 probably will fit nicely as a counterpart and releasing this one with a finest level of detail would make a perfect sense. Sadly, I don't see this coming.

[@pju28]

I would love it to see an enormous update on the SU-25

[@virenkeswani]

justice for fogorfoot

[@c.g.262]

DCS does have the two week free trial. People can always try that. I do agree with you, the I would love to get an update SU-25T.

[@branimirantic3625]

T-45 is an excellent training aircraft, and it is a free community module. A solution for all beginners.

[@theflyinggasmask]

Sending me on a full nostalgia trip with that FSX theme

[@Airtayjay]

Holy crap you unlocked a FLOOD of memories with that opening music. Wow...I need to sit back for a moment after hearing that.

[@darkstar0000000000]

Would buy a full fidelity frog-foot immediately. One of the planes I would like to see the most along with a FF Mig 23 Flogger. I enjoy my blues but the reds need some work across the board.

[@admiral_alman8671]

The awful selection of free planes was the main reason why I didn’t bother to get into DCS

[@Halozocker104]

You couldve literally tested every single aircraft for 2 weeks on standalone...

[@TheTemplarnight]

DCS always interests me then i see all the prices for basic stuff and it's like yeah no way

[@Mike-w5d2t]

I'd like to describe my experience and journey with dcs. As a newcomer (started 1st January with only previous flying experience in gta sa, gta v and battlefield 3, 4) first DCS impressions were great during the Frogfoot training, though I had problems with finding lacking informations online, because forums often used technical nomenclature, however I was having fun. First problems started during Vikhr lesson where Mercury pod wasn't working (was using single threaded version at the time, but I found nowhere any info that I had to use MT for it to work). I struggled a lot during training, but after few tries finally managed to complete all of it. So I moved on to campaign thinking that this is a logical next step for every noob and boy, was I wrong... I think a spent a whole day there trying to complete it (with labels on). When I googled up my problem every forum I found said something like, yeah, just use mercury so you see something on TV (x years ago mercury was thermal, but now it's just night vision so it doesn't help anymore). So I created some missions in mission editor for myself and practiced on them, but it all felt too simple or AI was doing something it wasn't supposed to. So I tried multiplayer where it turned out that everyone just flies for themselves and F16s and F18s together with apache just take every ground target I could take for themselves. I bought at the first quarter of the year SU33 and then Gazelle, had some fun with it, learned theory of dogfighting, bvr and flying a chopper, but again, I tried to create a mission for myself, and Gazelle wingman simply refuses to shoot anything, autohover sometimes stops working (lights are flashing green/white and chopper spins out of control, even saw someone mention it on reddit, but no solution) neither of those modules can even use built in jtac (I prefer air to ground), AI wingman sometimes does what it was supposed to, sometimes doesn't, sometimes they will randomly eject. I have 327 hours at the time of writing this and someone will tell me that it's a skill issue or that I took the worst modules to buy, but seriously, that was my experience and the best time I had was simply learning the basics. And at the time of writing this I don't really wanna go back to dcs I don't really wanna throw more money in it, because I don't see that it's worth it. I learned a lot in DCS, but when I finished learning I couldn't get much fun of it. Either my missions were to simple or something didn't work in them. I once tried creating recon flight followed by SEAD followed by ground attack starting from ramp, but it didn't really work out. What are biggest problems I see? The community in forums acts like it's godhood of recreating real life in computer (yeah, with notching working every time, duh) while my experience was that coming back in Gazelle to a ship after mission I could only ask for request takeoff, because ATC is buggy as hell. If you want to roleplay in a sim things like that KILL THE MOOD, because I'm not in a chopper, I'm at my desk holding plastic joystick trying to immerse my self. What was wrong with Flanker - D experience? How should I practice if single player AI knows everything? It's a skill issue and I'm a noob, I know that, so I should have a place to practice. Even csgo is able to host match with bots. I don't really see the difference between AI difficulties except for the lowest, where it won't even drop countermeasures. Why I didn't have fun doing air to ground? Placing target myself and then trigger to have some smoke indicator or anything on it killed all the mood and roleplay I wanted to do. I don't have a FLIR in my free plane, so I should at least be able to communicate with JTAC. And it IS in the game, because I saw a tutorial for it, just not for this plane. From top of my head: last week I had idea to use gazelle as intended scout chopper. So I thought I could use smoke rocket to trigger f18 air strike. That would be so fun! So I sit to mission editor and look for trigger "rocket in zone". Guess what? We have bomb in zone, missile in zone, but no rocket in zone. I wanted to give it another try and buy F18 or F16, but after I learned that Falcon BMS exists, has working JTAC for something that doesn't cost 60-70 Euros, has working AI, working ATC, well, I'm going to try this in near future. Just wanted to pour my thoughts and experience into internet, maybe it will make sense for someone. (Yes, I started using MT version of dcs after I learned that half of the things doesn't work in ST) Tl;dr Either modules I bought didn't have a functionality I'd like them to have or had some bugs that broke all the immersion I had. Maybe it's just for ex militaries, but I think they would be more prone to immersion breaking things since they know how it should be. At least I learned to A2A refuel which I really like and have fun with, but come on, it gets boring after a while :p.

[@spinningsquare1325]

Dude, you cant play dcs single player. Its unplayable. Just do MP

[@Mike-w5d2t]

@@spinningsquare1325 Unfortunately my PC can't handle DCS in multiplayer. I can however update you , that I'm having lots of fun in Falcon.

[@Bombu-b5h]

great editing! new sub

[@ryantrahan2240]

I'd pick up a full fidelity su25 to help support an update for the frogfoot. Love that plane even though I have most of the modules.

[@LongTran-em6hc]

The intro reminds me of a certain car show that I grew up with

[@FortySeventhGear]

I thought what if I mixed top gear intro with eyewitness theme. And I liked it too much to scrap it even though it extends the intro a lot.

[@CFD737]

I think ED will do anything BUT make the module prices regional

[@Kenedienz]

YOUR SO CLOSE, JUST ONE MORE SUBSCRIBER DUDE!

[@determinismo7771]

love the su25t, having full fidelity model with realistic procedures will be so awesome

[@paeturis]

No matter how many modules i buy and learn, i will always go back to Su-25T. Phantasmagoria pod | 2x Kh-25MP | 2x Kh-58 | 16x 9A4172 Vikhr | 2x R73 | 2x S-8OFP2 ... and you are ready to solo a whole enemy airport. So much fun.

[@AdmiralQuality]

LOL! Exactly! Their ambassador aircraft are not very inviting. (Though the TF-51D's flight model is what "sold" me. Didn't need guns.)

[@blackfalco33]

its such an underrated plane... btw there is a SU25M mod being devoped... :)

[@FortySeventhGear]

@@blackfalco33 I totally missed that.

[@blackfalco33]

@@FortySeventhGear kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIO9mZmAjMyVppI :)

[@torides.]

whats a Su-25M? i never heard that. i know there's a SM3 Mod being developed, i would love to check it out

[@blackfalco33]

@@torides. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIO9mZmAjMyVppI

[@DaSteeJ07]

Isn’t it TM?

[@louhodo5761]

The 25Ts biggest problem is that it is mostly mythological.

[@Winstonthesheep]

that intro made my day I loved that show as a kid

[@roxout5743]

finally someone who points this out

[@9487航空協會]

the music is def reminding me of my childhood of playing fsx

[@jcugnoni]

The A4 mod and all other free mods + Flaming Clif 3 bundle make DCS really great for not much money..

[@Stealth86651]

Woah, I haven't heard that intro in like 20-some years lol

[@gazgazgaz2]

Need a long TV visor for blocking sun reflection and Trim reset. Damn ED!!!

[@Tiber234]

And an honourary mention to the HUEY

[@endingender]

There’s a lot of other problems. It actually received a texture update with FC3 updates a few months ago.

[@M0LOCK]

I just want the Tornado,Typhoons and a couple of those newer Ru birds...

[@janintelkor]

not forgotten by me, still flying it 9 years later very often, together with other modules I have. But hell yeah it was forgotten by ED, still has things to fix/add....

[@Locutus720]

Pressure Eagle Dynamics? lol no. You had it right in that quick blurb, sell now and (maybe fix) later. Now buy that Iraq map so it can be finished (southern northern portion) in spring of 2045, right after they release the dynamic campaign😂

[@InsertCallsign]

I should probably do this too😉! Great video

[@hoverbike]

That intro music man Dont think i didnt recognise it immediately. EH REH

[@dxhvtrvf]

There are rumors, that Eagle dynamics are planning to release clickable Fulcrum cockpit

[@scotthulsey8763]

I fly it every once in a while. Got hit by two stingers and ground fire and was able to limp back to base the other day.

[@arnoth777]

WE NEED NAVAL SU25 AND NAVAL MIG29

[@radustefan8945]

i find it sad that the main free aircraft of dcs which every new player flies the first time when getting into dcs is just left as it was years ago. if i was ed, the main focus for getting new players is to give them something exclusive and well made, so the su25t would be the main goal. and when you think about it, it's not even that hard to give it better textures, weapons, mechanics and so on. i personally don't even take kh25 because they have awful textures compared to the other weapons

[@px1_]

The german livery su25 looks almost as cursed as those textures. Almost...

[@STRYKER1467]

However germany did not operate the Su-25 they had many soviet jets but not the Su-25.

[@AllisterCaine]

I clicked on this video because of Bundesluftwaffe Su-25 Froschfuß... 😂

[@MultiVeeta]

The Toad is legendary. Leave it alone.

[@gaborfeher741]

All ED developed (non-third-party) Soviet, Russian aircraft types are obsolete in DCS.

[@Nero-Caesar]

The FSX menu music brings me back

[@samiboukhalfa9040]

why did ED use algerien camo on the su?

[@vincebagadonis8016]

Aren't they only a few examples IRL Su-25Ts in existence? Am I wrong about this?

[@iNcog_AoE]

It's a borderline fictional aircraft

[@nomaambundy9989]

Honestly, I LIVE in the Su-25. I love its simplicity and speed compared to the A-10. Many fighters have underestimated the speed and maneuverability of the 25, and I'm not all caught up on graphics. I'd rather the game ran well than looked great.

[@ImpendingJoker]

Make Frog-T Great Again.

[@PeterMatthess]

Yo that Dorling Kindersley intro music is part of my childhood!

[@LuisCaneSec]

I was wondering why it looked and sounded familiar.

[@IgrikShit]

4:55 This is readable if you know Russian.

[@subjectc7505]

It would be cool if ED upgraded it to A-10C standards.

[@DriveByShouting]

Bring on the F-20 Tigershark 🤘

[@supershark0210]

What about the free full fidelity T-38 talon that’s coming soon? That will be a better introduction for new players seeing how it is a training aircraft

[@johngray3449]

That's basically just a F-5.

[@robertkalinic335]

There is no reason at all to have novices fly trainer models when you can just have them start learning planes they are already interested in. Its not like sims have to imitate real life pilot career progression. And full fidelity trainer of all things...

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

@@robertkalinic335 I agree with that TBH. The C in DCS means combat... so they might as well make a free multi-role combat aircraft. I think a good candidate for that would be the F-16. Falcon 4 BMS already has them beat on that front... but if DCS had a free F-16, even if the simulation quality is not as good as Falcon 4 BMS it could still be a better deal for players since Falcon 4 does cost money (free beats $7). The only thing for the player to consider then is if their PC can run DCS.

[@scotthulsey8763]

This is how it looks in real life.

[@carlosmaurokrma92]

I hit subscribe just because of that intro

[@ashestodust2313]

tonight, on dcs

[@smudgekenobi7126]

In addition, there are many bugs with the aircraft that ED have failed to fix over months. Including but not limited to the complete break of the KH-25MPU ARM (Anti rad missile). ED has been a let down at every corner lately to the point they can’t even maintain their freeware base aircraft in the sim. We NEED a new sim!

[@Ringachev]

im your 700th subscriber🔥

[@Rasmus_0211]

The SU25-T is by no means bad in terms of functionally however it does need some love, personally i think the idea of a free module to test things with is a bad option while also claiming the steam edition should offer similar trial as the stand-alone game, every DCS pilot knows ED is driven by sales of modules as the video demonstrates and frankly any FC module is more than enough to start off with for the lost cost of around 10€.

[@jacobdoolan4978]

As someone who used the crap out of the frogfoot, it’s not like it was looked upon positively by ED. They actually nerfed the damn mercury pod you can bring. Right now, it’s completely unusable during the day, but it used to be a decent white hot targeting pod

[@delayed_control]

Mercury is a night vision pod, why the hell should it be usable during the day, it's unusable during the day IRL. It's not a FLIR pod.

[@ziepex7009]

absolutely right you are

[@kalanihanako6087]

I’m not paying for anymore modules or maps until they fix things.

[@Eleolius]

Many of us feel the lack of a SU-34 on redforce in FC3 level or better is the single biggest problem for redforce fliers and limiting huge numbers of players.

[@doltBmB]

didn't they do a major update of all the FC3 planes recently? it's not forgotten.

[@FortySeventhGear]

If you mean flaming cliffs 2024 as mentioned in the video the update did not do much about the su25 if anything .

[@XCougar85X]

Gave up on DCS a few months ago. With all the crap going on, enough is enough. Own most modules but had my fun. FC3 style planes in general should get some more love and a much widened roster to include more Red-For to balance things.

[@themightybeast4716]

that frog makes me regret life

[@mro9466]

>

[@Movinfast]

I’d like a full fidelity frog

[@CrazyRussianPilot]

this is the best pilot in DCS SU25T, please donT update 😇😇

[@FortySeventhGear]

...Pylote*

[@martinlagrange8821]

What do you mean , 'Forgotten' ? I fly it all the time ! Its fun !

[@WaffenCat]

Хотелось бы видеть Су-25 и Су-25Т в новом качестве и с кликабельной кабиной…

[@MrPeperoni79]

Su25T is appropriate Gopnikplane.

[@RetroAmateur1989]

I love Top Landing Gear

[@ED209no]

I mainly fly KA-50, but I want to get into more flying with Plane. And since SU-25 has a very similar cockpit to the KA-50, that is the one plane I want to learn. But it's a bit boring since the cockpit is non functional. Hope it will be upgraded, or maybe be re made into a plane I can buy. And if it is re made, I hope they can add the ABRIS into the cockpit. 😅 ......yeah I know. The ABRIS wasn't installed in SU-25. 😔

[@jastrtva9505]

song in the intro?

[@FortySeventhGear]

Eyewitness theme

[@TopiraqAviation]

I did played it in 2 of my vids :/ (and it's a freaking russian a-10.)

[@MagicZazzi]

enter the Forgottenfoot

[@AW33COM]

What are you talking about? That Su-25T is the best airplane in the sim. I beat the BLUE team on DDCS for years in that thing. You can win the whole war in that SU. Russia would never allow the SU-25T to be full fidelity.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

Doesn't DCS have more helicopter modules than history has production Su-25Ts?

[@Juho-uf8si]

I tried DCS for few hours flying the frogfoot, the weapon selector/ripple etc. switches is not even readable in any way for me. its really not a great for making me want to spend any money or time on the game. i rather just play it in warthunder lmao

[@phill5917]

ED doesn't care much for Redfor. That's why its been forgotten.

[@maciejpieskasta493]

Hello, I am a new DCS player. I started 3 days ago. I knew some planes were free, i was disappointed at first that only free plane with weapons is dedicated to A/G and cant carry a lot IR missles. BTW first mistake I made was installing steam edition. Its a shame you cant get free trials on that and that it is not told on the front page, It is also not told that A4 is a free community made plane - BIG MISTAKE. I really like the su25t, but at first i thought it was a normal jet, so when i tried taking tight turns i was surprised when my aircraft started uncontrollably spinning. While trying to learn the game i decided tutorials must be the best thing to do, sadly i was kinda proven wrong. Tutorials are lackluster, you cant skip the dialog, (you only can change timescale but it is NEVER mentioned) and it makes for a really frustrating experience, also you cant reset the mission without commiting fratricide and you CANT REWIND DIALOGS BACK. like If you miss one thing, you have to go to main menu and load the whole mission again. Despite that i manages to complete all tutorials and even joined an MP server (even tho i didnt know shit bout what i was doin), YT tutorials helped me a lot, As well as tuuvas tutorial on Setting up XBOX360 controller. I dont have HOTAS, and will probably never buy one, i can only imaging making one myself (DIY arduino stuff,etc.) since they are either expensive or look like shit if theyre cheap. Today i managed to shoot down A10 warthog from "Instant action - dogfight mode" with an IR missle, so even with just a controller I;m somehow getting the hang of it although the aiming fells wonky(especially with Shkval). In my opinion there is way tooo many stuff thrown at once at a newcomer, you have like 30 different armaments and you're supposed to choose between them when setting up your aircraft, While there is NO DESCRIPTION when you hover over a missle/bomb. Real shame here, and loadout presets are not labeled, you dont know which one is for armored targets, which one is anti radar focused ETC. Also autopilot Really sucks at first because you;re not properly taught how to use it. Simply following the circle will often get you nowhere, idk why. Now i know how to use it more or less, but i put my trust in HDI and HSI, not the HUD sadly. I also dont know how to see replays of my engagements. There are guys on YT that open this view where you can see both aircraft(yours and enemys), their trajectory, weapons used and you can analyze that, but i dont know how the hell do i open that "tactical" postgame replay. Shame, this would be very handy to learn which missle got you, why your chaff/flares didnt discract it ETC. Today i also opened up first mission in campaign and it kinda sucks if you dont know what you're doing. You're not told what weapons you;re carrying, and at which stations, (youhave to use ALT+') I know this is not meant to be a tutorial, but come on, its literally THE FIRST MISSION. Give the newbie some tactics, concepts, possible engagements routes etc. It would be soo cool and informative! Anyway i know thats a long read, sorry 4 that but i wanted to share my 2 cents of my "beginner experience" I;m gonna keep learning su25t, probably will download A-4E and learn it too, then i will abuse free trials after reinstall. If you reading this and are also a beginner you can hit me up if you wanna play, see ya!

[@FortySeventhGear]

DCS is not a very accessible game although with it's nature it just is not capable to be as convenient and quick to get into as the snail for example. I think you are looking for a tacview when it comes to trajectories. Some missions in DCS Are Broken that's a fact. On the other hand DCS is mostly a sandbox where you make your own fun. Your points are valid but ED couldn't care less. Thanks for sharing your opinion Cheers

[@maciejpieskasta493]

@@FortySeventhGear Yeah thats it! thank you i needed that tacview! BTW Right now I;ve discovered A-4E and i;m in love with it, honestly it would make for such a great first aircraft for newcomers, that thing actually turns lmao

[@corsa.21-93]

Frogfoot's life matters🙏

[@glebshow8590]

It has been forgotten for 10 years because it is free

[@kralicekbubla7165]

3:50 what map is this

[@FortySeventhGear]

Looks like Southern Atlantic. The footage is from a DCS trailer.

[@Kilanov]

Honestly, I think the free trials are fine enough as in intro right now. What DCS needs to break the slump in players is better gamepad support. You can never make jaded old players happy again, the solution here is to bring in new faces. Sure sure people say you can't play DCS on a controller. I'd argue THEY can't play DSC on a controller, I do just fine. I've spent near on $1000 USD on the game at this point, plus a trackir that I elected to stop using in favor of an analog stick, new monitor, and PC upgrade, yet im still lurking PvEvP servers using a regular 2nd gen xbox elite controller. if that doesn't show that they could make some serious money by introducing more accessible preset controls, I don't know what does. The worst part is that they wouldn't even have to do any work. Hell, I'd be happy to provide my control presets to ED, that'd be 21 modules total, including most of the full fidelity ones. Imagine how many new players would show up overnight if you told them they could trial any aircraft (except two) for a 14 day period AND they could fly competitively in PVP using the same controller they play forza with. Last time I spoke to ED about the possibility of adding premade controls for gamepads, they stated they didn't want to set a precedent of "handholding" because making and knowing your controls is such a big part of the DCS experience. To that, we asked for more support adding modifiers, and got zero response. Steam controller support is a lifesaver in that regard, and Tuuvas is a true hero of the couch gamers for enlightening us on its usefulness. Now, the veteran players issue... Pay Razbam, show us the progress on dynamic campaign, and drop the prices on maps that effectively overlap with OTHER maps. If they did just that and nothing else, I'm confident the next ED module to drop into release window would sell MUCH better.

[@tahzib1451]

the ridiculous marketing model of DCS is why i am so rooting for Falcon BMS to get at least an F-14

[@CynicalOldDwarf]

The worst thing about the SU-25T isn't the poor textures, the worst thing is that it lacks the clickable cockpit which is one of the main features of the professional modules. If a modder can make one, why can't ED?

[@AndreiCeleste]

The entire video gets dismissed by the Trial Program, truth it that is available only on standalone. Good choice for the topic, but saying you asked the ,,community" I ask you: Who? 700 people on this channel? 17k from views? Or who? DCS has over 300k active users if not more and over 1 milion community members. To reach and ask ,,the community" will require a big effort from multiple sources. If you did all this work, I applaud you 👏

[@joeds3775]

Can we crowdfund it?

[@steelpill]

Giant prises is the biggest problem 😢 new players scared of buying something That affects an online.

[@mamarussellthepie3995]

Pov it's handled like us vehicles in war tinder 😂

[@a-tech5452]

ill save the su-25t guys dont worry

[@STRYKER1467]

They should add the SU-25SM3 thats the newest russian SU-25 Fighterbomber.

[@lasselahti4056]

The Su-25SM3 is a modern Soviet strike aircraft introduced in Update "Alpha Strike". While it seems to be a downgrade from the previous Su-25T at first due to the lower air-to-air missile count and lack of 9K127 Vikhr ATGMs, the Su-25SM3 is far more than meets the eye. For starters, the Shkval laser sight was upgraded to the SOLT-25 thermal imaging and laser designator system, not only making this the only Su-25 with thermals but also the one with the largest zoom to its optics. Its not like update to su-25t (which was dropped from production because of high costs, was it like 30 pcs made.. :P) The point of Su-25SM3 was not to update su-25t, it was to make su-25 overalls cheaper with never parts, and that has led to compromises mentioned. Basically it is just cheaper su-25 with newer avionics and cam (thermal) system . Though gotta mention it has few upgrades (more countermeasures basically..)