This Plane Was About To Break (BKS Air Transport Flight C.6845) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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The film you just bared witness to was captured on July 3rd, 1968. It was filmed by an amateur film maker by the name of Frank Mills. The site, London Heathrow Airport. This plane photographed here had crashed at one of the busiest airports in the entire world. The accident involved the ill-fated plane crashing into a terminal building and damaging three other planes in the process.
The curious case of BKS Air Transport Flight C.6845 involves the breakdown in the relationship between the pilot and a key aspect of controllability when flying an aircraft. This is a plane crash that is not all that known about even the United Kingdom, despite the fact that it crashed into an airport building killing most of its occupants. So what went wrong here? Well to begin with lets establish the nature of this flight. As Flight C.6845 was what you could consider to be an unusual one given what was actually on board the plane, and some people, especially some in the United Kingdom may already be familiar with one name attached to this disaster.
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@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown Жыл бұрын
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@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 Жыл бұрын
Hello I love your videos! I really will donate, erm, as soon as the financial situation soothes a little I am so sorry not to do so immediately. I read a comment below that someone wrote about an emergency landing on a race course. I think that you could make a WONDERFUL series on "Close Calls" apart from accidents. I would love a whole series not on crashes, but on close calls! We never hear about close calls because it's chiefly crashes that make the head lines and some of these close calls would be just as interesting mechanically and psychologically. Not that you're not probably busy enough, but if you are ever wondering what you might like to do next. And thank you again!
@TheaSvendsen
@TheaSvendsen Жыл бұрын
I second the proposal to do close calls on your channel instead of only focusing on the crashes - there must be a lot of near disasters that changed aviation and its procedures for the better, most likely saving many lives. That is something I’m sure that we all would love to hear more about!
@saminaneen
@saminaneen Жыл бұрын
@@charlotteinnocent8752 Only if he gets, some decent freeware, or pay ware planes, and gets current with MSFS 2020
@NorwayT
@NorwayT Жыл бұрын
Fascinating story and very well researched.
@willlecomber7509
@willlecomber7509 Жыл бұрын
Anyone find it weird that the trident that had been hit in the crash, only had the tail piece taken off, and when the trident had its fatal crash, pretty much the only piece of the the plane that was still in tact was the replaced tail section
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown Жыл бұрын
wow yeah I hadn't noticed that myself
@monkofdarktimes
@monkofdarktimes Жыл бұрын
That is odd
@nikshmenga
@nikshmenga Жыл бұрын
bizarre
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I never considered that before. It's really creepy.
@R8andGT3Fan
@R8andGT3Fan Жыл бұрын
That's the first thing that I noticed! 😥
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza Жыл бұрын
Hearing that the plane that survived and was repaired became the Staines crash? That just sent chills down my spine.
@nikshmenga
@nikshmenga Жыл бұрын
the hair on the back of my neck stood up
@TheaSvendsen
@TheaSvendsen Жыл бұрын
Flying might be safer than driving in a car etc., but there’s still a lot of plane crashes when you dive into it :-/
@6yjjk
@6yjjk Жыл бұрын
And it looks like only the tail survived...
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza Жыл бұрын
@@6yjjk you know when my flatmate watched this video with me this morning he said the EXACT same thing
@giggiddy
@giggiddy Жыл бұрын
​@@6yjjk Exactly what I thought. The first crash. Only the tail was demolished. The second crash, only the tail survived.
@emills6525
@emills6525 Жыл бұрын
This is a good example on how complicated these machines are, and how one broken system can prove to be fatal.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 Жыл бұрын
And why redundancies are so important!
@TheaSvendsen
@TheaSvendsen Жыл бұрын
@@dfuher968 Yes, exactly this! Hearing that the right side was “borrowing” the mechanics from the left was a huge surprise to me. I know that we’ve come a long way in aviation safety but I had never imagined that anyone would think such a design could ever be a good idea. But if the plane was previously used in WW2, then it probably needed to be as lightweight as possible (in order to carry heavy bombs etc). Still, I was pretty chocked at that revelation. Thank god that we’ve learned from the mistakes of the past …even though it cost dearly in lives lost.
@freddiecunningham2860
@freddiecunningham2860 Жыл бұрын
That's so scary to think about that. Is that's why planes now have 2 yokes etc?
@forceawakens4449
@forceawakens4449 Жыл бұрын
​@@freddiecunningham2860 yes, redundancy prevents any one problem from being too serious. Modern planes go as far as to double or triple up the clmputer systems
@hernerweisenberg7052
@hernerweisenberg7052 3 ай бұрын
@@forceawakens4449Unfortunately there are some things that cannot be made redundant tho. Like the computer evaluating the output of the triple flight computers. Its very rare, but i think there was one case where a cosmic ray flipped a bit in that evaluating computer and despite the triple flight computers all agreeing on the altitude, that flipped bit changed it to think it was somewhere else entirely and it nosedived to get back to where it thought it should be while on altitude hold autopilot...
@kevinnorth9927
@kevinnorth9927 Жыл бұрын
I was there a 7 year old kid with my parents observing Aircraft from the Queens Building. I did not witness the crash but felt it as he ground shook an incredible explosion with a huge plume of black smoke darkening the skies. I'll never forget that day , thanks for covering it here I never knew the cause.
@emilycormeraie8858
@emilycormeraie8858 Жыл бұрын
So I’ve mentioned before that I live in Ireland; and my town has actually just celebrated the 40 year anniversary of a planes emergency landing! You should check it out, it’s a cute story. A Mexican private jet was to land in Shannon Airport to refuel. However, due to poor weather, they were suddenly diverted to Cork Airport. They weren’t able to make it and made a fantastic landing at our local racecourse!
@emilycormeraie8858
@emilycormeraie8858 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Ocana Mallow Racecourse landing
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - I spent the last 2 hours reading and have updated the Cork Racecourse Wikipedia with information about this fantastic story, along with a mention of Ocaña Fest and his daughter spreading his ashes. That is genuinely one of the most heartwarming stories I’ve ever read
@emilycormeraie8858
@emilycormeraie8858 Жыл бұрын
@@ZombieSazza Awww thanks for looking into my little town and this story. It’s one of the legacies they have.
@cristiancristi9384
@cristiancristi9384 Жыл бұрын
My sister lives in Ireland... I will tell her to find out about that story.... Definitely interesting 😁
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 Жыл бұрын
I hope she does make a video on that! I would love a whole series not on crashes, but on close calls! We never hear about close calls because it's chiefly crashes that make the head lines and some of these close calls would be just as interesting mechanically and psychologically.
@sunnyfon9065
@sunnyfon9065 Жыл бұрын
It shocks me when I heard that one of the 3 planes, which were damaged by this crash, was later repaired but crashed few years later as BEA Flight 548.
@nikshmenga
@nikshmenga Жыл бұрын
shocking if the damaged/repaired plane hadn't crashed few years later
@awuma
@awuma Жыл бұрын
The crash of BEA Flight 548 was entirely due to pilot error, a heart attack and negative CRM. Many lessons were learned, although it took many more accidents for crew resource management to become hugely important.
@geoffhunter7704
@geoffhunter7704 Жыл бұрын
Another Airspeed Ambassador was involved in the Manchester United,Munich Air Disaster of 1958 with the sad loss of the Busby Babes Team Members!!!
@NeoTheKuria
@NeoTheKuria 11 ай бұрын
The tail was the part damaged but in BEA548 The tail was intact..🤨🤨📸📸
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 10 ай бұрын
@@awuma Agreed 100%, and I watched that one a few hours ago, and it was sad that the pilot of 548 got into a fight about politics (he was against the BEA employee fair wage protest/strikes). Personally, I support fair wages, and peaceful actions, but the pilot of flight 548 didn't listen to the younger generation. It always seems that these tragic events lead to safer planes, but sometimes, and sadly it takes too many tragedies before people decide to change. The silver lining is that cockpit resource management and actual automation systems have made planes safer from the late 20th century into the 21st century (The 2020s have been much safer for flying compared to the 1970s for instance).
@stephanieparker1250
@stephanieparker1250 Жыл бұрын
The horses… 😰💔
@robinsonsstudios
@robinsonsstudios Жыл бұрын
Tragedy aside, can we agree that the Airspeed Ambassador is an utterly beautiful aircraft?!
@RatPfink66
@RatPfink66 Жыл бұрын
In the same sense that Princess Margaret was an utterly beautiful woman...except that both had rather prominent noses and tended to make unfortunate headlines.
@super20dan
@super20dan Жыл бұрын
no it was a ugly ass plane with a very poor safty record
@zacktong8105
@zacktong8105 Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of this unfortunate accident, but after the infamous Manchester United accident at Munich involving an Ambassador the plane probably NEVER recovered its reputation and this one killing eight prize race horses was the coup de grace!
@awuma
@awuma Жыл бұрын
But it was such a beautiful plane! One is being restored at Duxford.
@nigelbond4056
@nigelbond4056 Жыл бұрын
I’d never heard of this disaster before, thank you Chloe for explaining it so eloquently. Quite how anyone survived that impact is beyond me. Remarkable when you see the impact and subsequent explosion.
@sunnyfon9065
@sunnyfon9065 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this plane crash footage before but never knew more about this accident. Since you have covered on this accident, I will watch the whole video. I love your videos, Chloe. I do like to see you covering on the accidents and incidents of Malaysia Airlines flights.
@bigdmac33
@bigdmac33 Жыл бұрын
I thought that I was familiar with every UK air accident, yet here's one that I knew nothing about. Thank you for this splendid presentation.
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in :)
@Tikibunss
@Tikibunss Жыл бұрын
That footage hits hard. Seeing the nose tilt up especially...Thank you for sharing this incident with us. Fantastic work as always.
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 Жыл бұрын
Watching the clip, I can see the nose very high, the a/c struggling for power to gain height but it simply stalls, just falling out of the air.
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 10 ай бұрын
The final second of the footage was too difficult to see, so the best course of action for me was to turn away during that few second period near the end. No airline in my opinion should have been using late 1940s (well, 1950) aircraft with faulty parts in the late 1960s, when more modern technology was available. Well sometimes, it could be expensive for an airline to replace a 15-20 year old aircraft with a newer plane, so it is understandable. But the designers of the plane should have made the flap rod redundant or out of steel or titanium, but I'm no engineer. Thankfully nowadays in the 2020s, metal fatigue is better understood, and planes are much safer.
@kellylingro3288
@kellylingro3288 Жыл бұрын
It's always more sad for me when i know animals were on board
@joannegaughan6132
@joannegaughan6132 Жыл бұрын
For me as well. All the people chose to be on that plane, but the horses didn't, they had no choice, and I'm sure they were even more terrified than the humans.😢
@5amH45lam
@5amH45lam Жыл бұрын
I'm British, in my 40s, yet never heard of this event! 😯 Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Great vid, as always. 👍
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@johnhill8529
@johnhill8529 Жыл бұрын
The chief engineer at BKS had realised that the flap rod on these aircraft was vulnerable and a potentially catastrophic single point of failure. The certification engineers at the CAA had over ruled him. John Moody’s family were very nearly left penniless, but a campaign by some of the BKS crews and ground staff raised a considerable sum to help. The Ambassador was the first aircraft I ever flew in on a commercial flight. It was beautiful, noisy, but incredibly comfortable. I saved this to watch later as my grandfather flew them. I’ve just stepped out of £65M of incredibly complex jet tonight, my flying career has 5 years left and our real knowledge of metal fatigue still sees engineers doing dye penetrant checks, parts are lifted for fatigue, and we still don’t know as much about metal fatigue as we’d like to.
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg 11 ай бұрын
A fatigue failure in a wingflap bolt caused a Viscount crash at Ringway, nr. Manchester, in 1957: the plane was only a minute or so from landing.
@johnhill8529
@johnhill8529 11 ай бұрын
@@None-zc5vg thank you, I’ll take a look through the AAIB records for that (if they’ve uploaded that far back yet) the Viscount was the first aircraft I flew for a living and is a much loved memory in my career.
@matthewc7334
@matthewc7334 3 ай бұрын
More on the story about the Chief Engineer and the flap lever fatigue is in "Behind the Cockpit Door" by Arthur Whitlock, pp262-265. It is sad that often a person's concerns are over-ridden by finances and people who do not want to know! John Moody is also mentioned several times in that book.
@johnhill8529
@johnhill8529 3 ай бұрын
@@matthewc7334 one of the best aviation books I have ever read.
@annabethchase2569
@annabethchase2569 Жыл бұрын
This could've been soooooo much worse in terms of lives lost - one of the few accidents that unfortunately veered a plane into a terminal. You had a near empty terminal building at Heathrow in the 60s, 2 completely empty planes where 1 of them was unrecoverably destroyed, the original plane without many passengers as it was a cargo plane, and even on top of that 2 people and a horse survived. I shudder to imagine how bad it would be if the accident happened today on a busy day at the busiest terminal in Heathrow with a full passenger plane hitting multiple other full passenger planes. And there would probably be more planes too, some waiting to enter or exit from the terminal or taxiing. It's less likely due to checks and balances, but any issue causing a plane to uncontrollably veer into the terminal area is terrifying.
@TheaSvendsen
@TheaSvendsen Жыл бұрын
That was where my thoughts went immediately as well - incredibly lucky!! I actually breathed a huge sigh of relief when I heard that there were ZERO fatalities on the ground. Seeing the footage in the beginning of the video, I was positive that this crash left little to no survivors.
@GeorgeMCMLIX
@GeorgeMCMLIX Жыл бұрын
I remember way back in the early 70s, as a young teenager, seeing a BBC documentary featuring this tragic incident. Titled the Air Crash Investigators it looked at the work of the UK CAA Air Accident Investigation Branch. I was fascinated by the intricate investigation and reconstruction of the aircraft remains, which eventually led to the discovery of the cause of the crash. Excellent presentation 👍🏻 Thank you.
@thirdwheel1985au
@thirdwheel1985au Жыл бұрын
I almost changed to a different video when I heard horses were on board. Glad I stuck it out.
@sarahmacintosh6449
@sarahmacintosh6449 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great vid, Chloe! Always stoked when your channel pops up in my feed 😁
@aaronallen943
@aaronallen943 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found this channel. Chloe, I absolutely love your work. Your tireless dedication to what you do shows in the quality of your content. I subscribe to a ton of channels. There are a small handful of whom I make DAMN sure I get those notifications… You’re one of them! Thanks so much for everything you do. You actually helped me get over my debilitating fear of flying so, I will be a fan forever!! ✈️☺️🖤
@brianmuhlingBUM
@brianmuhlingBUM Жыл бұрын
I love the graphics in your vision. They are so well done. Your narration is excellent, very clear, not hurried, and no loud, excessive and annoying music. Thank you. 😊
@skunkrat01
@skunkrat01 Жыл бұрын
Wow what an interesting story. Expertly told as always. I never dreamed of a plane completely renovated to just carry horses, but it does sound like some crazy rich guy thing
@anna_in_aotearoa3166
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the accessible technical explanations Chloé! Your clarification of what flaps actually do was new to me, and really interesting.
@stephenboitoult8774
@stephenboitoult8774 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this light on a not well remembered crash. I was only 13 at the time and COULD have been at Heathrow when it happened as I was an inveterate plane spotter and habitual inhabitant of the spotters enclosure. But I was at school and missed it. My mum also worked for BEA at that time and I well remember the fuss around Papa-India's fate in Staines. Even so I was shocked when you mentioned the recommissioning of the damaged aircraft and, 50 years later, the callsign Papa India rose unbidden into my mind even before the sequence zoomed in to highlight it!
@jonyjoe8464
@jonyjoe8464 Жыл бұрын
The flap breaking down in the worst time possible, the pilots had no way to save the aircraft and crew/horses. I think as soon as the landing gear touch the ground the pilots should have just done a crash landing instead of trying to do a go around, it would have been less catastrophic. The trident plane damaged and repaired that crashed later but it wasn't due to the repairs, it crashed due to pilot imcompetence , they retracted the flaps too early and stalled it.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
-Flaps do increase the area of the wing yes, but primarily they increase the effective camber. And thus increase coefficient of lift. Lift = 1/2 r V2 S Cl, where r is air density, V2 is the velocity squared, S is wing area, and Cl is coefficient of lift. Adding flaps adds a little S but a whole lot of Cl. Which means that V2 can now be reduced from cruise speed to landing speed with the same lift being generated....
@awuma
@awuma Жыл бұрын
I often here that wing size misconception regarding flaps... kids don't build model planes any more, don't know about camber.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
@@awuma When I was building RC model airplanes at the age of 13 I sometimes stopped working on them for 10 minutes in my bedroom because something in my pants was getting a whole lot larger than it had ever been before, like 20 cm long. So size does indeed count~
@DiecastPowderCoating
@DiecastPowderCoating Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video once again. That was a very sad accident
@oilfan9445
@oilfan9445 Жыл бұрын
Holy hell, the ending of the video blew my mind. Great video as always and thank you for enlightening us plane nerds
@57Jimmy
@57Jimmy Жыл бұрын
A very good report on yet another less known accident. And as a double whammy, this is the first I’ve heard about the Trident that crashed being the same one that was damaged by this episodes aircraft! Great work!!👍🇨🇦
@kornazov4
@kornazov4 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! Thanks!
@MarkSmith-hy9ll
@MarkSmith-hy9ll Жыл бұрын
I was a six year old spotter who, with my dad, left the Queens Building viewing area overlooking that line of Tridents literally five minutes before it happened. So glad I didn't see it. Even so as I got older it naturally drew my interest into why it occurred so can say that this is excellent video explanation of the event. Liked and subscribed.!
@VHKDK
@VHKDK Жыл бұрын
I can remember seeing the footage on the BBC evening news that evening but I didn't realise until your video that the plane was attempting a go around. A very interesting video with the twist in the tail concerning the Trident involved in the Staines accident. Not sure if you have done this one but have you considered doing a video covering the accident involving BOAC flight 712 G-ARWE at Heathrow? An amazing survival story as well as the bravery of stewardess Barbara Harrison.
@kimgarrard2570
@kimgarrard2570 Жыл бұрын
I was due to be admitted to Hillingdon hospital that afternoon but was sent home as they had to deal with injured people from this crash
@nyxqueenofshadows
@nyxqueenofshadows Жыл бұрын
i sort of peripherally knew about this (or, more specifically that william hill was related to a plane crash) but it's interesting to get the full details! great video, as always :)
@SinaLaJuanaLewis
@SinaLaJuanaLewis Жыл бұрын
excellent job on this! what a plot twist too😮
@noahthesarcastictd
@noahthesarcastictd Жыл бұрын
That trident has to be one of the unluckiest plane ive ever heard about. The plane was in a crash and was repaired to later crash as BEA 548. Ironically the tail broke in the first incident yet in the accident, it survived...
@desdicadoric
@desdicadoric Жыл бұрын
1968! Looked like ancient history, and I was alive then, just. Damn
@MUHAMMADLUQMANAIDIDBINRONISARI
@MUHAMMADLUQMANAIDIDBINRONISARI Жыл бұрын
Your narrative is very good btw
@noondayx2011
@noondayx2011 Жыл бұрын
Quality content as per usual
@darkfox2076
@darkfox2076 Жыл бұрын
Great video again chloe.
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stevenkrupka3670
@stevenkrupka3670 4 ай бұрын
Great content, very professional channel.👌
@RO-pd2nn
@RO-pd2nn Жыл бұрын
Great video. 👍
@odenviking
@odenviking Жыл бұрын
thanks for uploading this video. i have had not heard about this accident . 👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
@royfearn4345
@royfearn4345 Жыл бұрын
I well remember this disaster along with details of the failure of the port flap actuator due to metal fatigue. Thank you for reminding me.
@stevemcnair-wilson6106
@stevemcnair-wilson6106 Жыл бұрын
What a tragic story, although not so bad as the Munich Air Disaster in 1958 in which a similar plane was involved. Today one last example can be seen at Duxford Air Museum. For those not familiar with this airliner, it was exceptionally beautiful and it was powered by 2 Bristol Centaurus engine, which would start up with a huge puff of smoke and the occasional backfire. Spectacular. In my late teens I worked for Aviation Traders at Southend Airport and was familiar with these, DC 3's, Curtiss Commando's and a raft of aircraft long forgotten, including our own ATL 98 Carvair. and BAF's Bristol Superfreighters.
@r.o.1330
@r.o.1330 Жыл бұрын
.....my wife was looking into getting me a ride on a vintage WW2 aircraft for a present. I thanked her, but said no thanks for this very reason.
@british.scorpion
@british.scorpion Жыл бұрын
Interesting information, thank you.
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, as always, Chloe!!! Only even more awesome of you to find footage of the incident, itself... You might find it interesting that there's some footage (largely archival from the USCG of the time, but I've seen several clips online) from the Pan Am Flight 6 Ocean Ditching in 1956. Whether or not you were inclined to include any or all footage of it, I'd be interested in your take on the matters. It's kinda famous for being the first ever oceanic ditching where EVERYBODY lived. It also concerns a prop-driven Boeing 377 Stratocruiser, so a bit of an obscure plane to hunt down, BUT I'm sure we'd understand a bit of a shift in visual aids, and you might have some fun finding whatever you can. It's a neat old plane. IN any case, this disaster reminded me of that one... mostly from the few odd clips I've seen shot from a nearby Coast Guard vessel and kept all these years. You always do such a great job hunting down the details and researching to truly understand the incidents you choose. Good hunting!!! ;o)
@Alan316100
@Alan316100 Жыл бұрын
I could tell you so much more about BKS/Northeast, which was an excellent airline using, certainly in the early days, mostly ex RAF pilots. The pilot of the plane in question, Ernie Hand, was one of those and a well above average pilot, and I would also note that his 'clearance' of not being in any way to blame for the crash was just about the fastest clearance ever by the CAA. I might also point out that when taken over by BEA, for the first few weeks the Northeast pilots regularly had issues over signing for the aircraft becasue they were not up to the maintenance standards they were used to! But, it was all a long time ago and just about all those pilots and 1st officers are long gone now and flying for a much safer airline 🙂.
@pops2728
@pops2728 Жыл бұрын
I have not heard of this accident before. I remember the Manchester United crash which was an Airspeed Ambassador. I was coming home from school when I saw the headlines in the evening papers. I am eighty years old and love aviation. I flew to Majorca on an Ambassador in 1959, 1961, 62, 63, and 64. Dan Air mainly. I could have flown on this one! A very noisy plane inside. I remember it used to fly around the Pyrenees Mountains instead of over them. I have been to see the Dan Air one at Duxford and it brought back some great memories.
@cheirodonnoe4465
@cheirodonnoe4465 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Being a racing fan, are the names of the 8 racehorses recorded anywhere? I would like to know who they were and what the loss was to racing and breeding. I looked online but haven’t found anything. Thanks
@geoffhunter7704
@geoffhunter7704 Жыл бұрын
A neighbour worked for this Airline i am sure the names were Berkeley,Kerr and Stevens and at least of the Directors were ex RAF our neighbour soon lost his job and another neighbour was BEA Chief Pilot got him a post with BEA that is all i remember as i was in the Army since 1967.
@geoffhunter7704
@geoffhunter7704 Жыл бұрын
Ah well memory plays tricks the Founder/Directors were James Barnby,Thomas Keegan and M Stevens so slap on wrist for being 2/3rds wrong!
@Joyce_Aneila
@Joyce_Aneila Жыл бұрын
the one trident has cheated death, but death came back to get it years later
@lesoswald324
@lesoswald324 Жыл бұрын
I was an Air Scout in Newcastle, where BKS were the main commercial operator at the as-then Woolsington Airport. Most of my weekends were spent there and we would trade doing small jobs in exchange for flights or simply visiting aircraft or other facilities. Once, we helped carry new seats out, which were being replaced on G-AMAD, when it was mainly flying the Heathrow to Newcastle route. I was quite shocked when I learned that an aeroplane which I saw almost weekly, had crashed. I recall that BKS had two more ex-BEA Ambassadors in service back then.
@shoob7979
@shoob7979 Жыл бұрын
It sucks that anyone/horses died in this crash but it was somewhat of a silver lining that no one on the ground including the construction workers were not further casualties in such a horrible accident
@billygdj
@billygdj Жыл бұрын
This haunted me as a 10 year old when I saw it on the night time news and I'll never forget it. We lived near Glasgow Airport and about a year before this I had witnessed a BEA Viscount accident when it over ran the runway and crashed into a field with no loss of life. Ambassadors were common at Glasgow , Autair , BKS , Dan Air etc so to see this really shook me up knowing there had been fatalities.
@jawavartenuk6770
@jawavartenuk6770 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to “I Found Your Cheetos”, from “Where are my Cheetos”! Another great video, as always!
@guyseeten2755
@guyseeten2755 Жыл бұрын
'The failure occurred only just a few moments from when they were expected to touch down, it couldn't have occurred at a worst point in the flight.' The left side landing gear touched the grass and the pilots decided to execute a go around. I don't agree, I think it was the best moment for this failure to occur. It was a normal reaction to execute a go around, they are trained to do so. But chances are everybody would have survived if the pilots had accepted a hard landing and a damaged airplane and slammed the brakes. It probably would have come to a complete stop without crashing.
@X_mezo_X
@X_mezo_X Жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the video, the pilots were caught off-guard ,were under heavy pressure, and couldn't properly think of it the same way we're able to think about this incident 50 years after it happened,
@Brian-kl1zu
@Brian-kl1zu 9 ай бұрын
@@X_mezo_X It's a "what if" question.
@anantr99
@anantr99 Жыл бұрын
The Viscount was also lost in 1975 in a crash at Phnom Penh International Airport. The pilot was unqualified to fly the plane, having forged his credentials. He ended up losing control of the aircraft during a landing. The crash killed all four occupants of the aircraft and ended up damaging a parked Cessna 172 beyond repair.
@user-jh3dw4zi3l
@user-jh3dw4zi3l Жыл бұрын
I have flown in G-AMAD several times with the Captain E. Hand who was tragically killed in this accident.
@boeing777pilot5
@boeing777pilot5 Жыл бұрын
Another great video as always Chloe! A quick question for you, do you only make videos about incidents where the plane crashes/has fatalities, or do you cover incidents the situation is resolved and the aircraft land safely?
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown Жыл бұрын
Last week we did a Disaster Averted video, death count or fatalities had no bearing on whether or not I make a video on it. if I find it to be an interesting case and people want to see it then i can put it on my list to get made
@anna_in_aotearoa3166
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the inclusion of your Disaster Averted vids! It helps psychologically balance the tragedy of the worst disasters, but IMO near misses can also be just a valuable source of learnings, especially as the flight crews are able to provide first-person testimony of their experiences, actions, & thoughts/decisions?
@boeing777pilot5
@boeing777pilot5 Жыл бұрын
@@DisasterBreakdown ok, cool. My suggestion would be the 1978 Cessna 188 pacific rescue. A Cessna 188 was on a delivery journey from the USA to Australia. On one leg of the journey the pilot got lost flying over the pacific due to a piece of navigation equipment failing and was eventually located and saved by an Air New Zealand DC-10, fight 103. The Cessna landed safely on Norfolk Island after flying for over 23 hours. Another interesting thing about this incident was the Flight Engineer on flight 103, Gordon Brooks, who was unfortunately killed less than a year later in the crash of Air New Zealand flight 901 on Mount Erebus.
@cherylschantz9893
@cherylschantz9893 Жыл бұрын
Those poor horses! They had no choice of being on the flight.
@e.scottdaugherty8291
@e.scottdaugherty8291 Жыл бұрын
OK, the tie in between the 2 incidents with that aircraft was too creepy.
@user-ep6od1zs5p
@user-ep6od1zs5p 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy your movies very much: they are authoritative, clear, impartial, balanced and intelligent, and beautifully narrated. I admire you for your trans journey and I offer you my best wishes. Stay true to yourself, and keep producing quality videos.
@Clementinewoofwoof
@Clementinewoofwoof 11 ай бұрын
Hot damn, I can’t believe there’s actually footage of it
@Tailsdude11
@Tailsdude11 Жыл бұрын
I love your vids
@gauthamsunil1780
@gauthamsunil1780 Жыл бұрын
And one final thing( I feel like I’m getting to annoying now but) there was that other Viscount that was damaged. In Wikipedia, it says that aircraft also got into an accident in Cambodia. I don’t think there is a lot of information on it.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh, I knew this as the William Hill crash. Quite a lot of older folks in the horse racing world now this one, but don't know the plane or airline or such, they just know it due to William Hil's involvement, and you probably coverd this, I'm a few moments in, but one of the Tridents would go on to be BEA 548, which is a spooky coincidence really.
@TheSecurdisc
@TheSecurdisc Жыл бұрын
A number of the horses actually survived but were destroyed in situs by the on duty Vet at Heathrow Airport. BKS created a 'Blood and Livestock' division for the Company to carry horses and livestock. Two Conversions were carried out at their engineering base at Southend Airport. BKS called them 'Lizzy's'. There is just one survivor of the 20 built which is now at Duxford. Of the founders, Barnaby died young, Keegan moved to British Air Ferries and then onto motor racing and Stevens became the Chairman of British Midland Airways. Although essentially a northern airline (Newcastle) their Engineering base was at Southend. 66 years on their football team BKS Sports still survives in the local Southend borough FC Combination League. I worked for BKS as did all my family before they were absorbed in the British Air Services group (BAS) in 1968.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 Жыл бұрын
Nice bit of additional history.
@johniksushibar165
@johniksushibar165 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was born and lived not far from Heathrow airport, i have never heard about that crash before, when the trident went down, i was fishing with friends near Staines and only found out about that one when i got home.
@sunnyfon9065
@sunnyfon9065 Жыл бұрын
Damn, what a horrifying footage
@jamesgraham6122
@jamesgraham6122 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, I have no memory of that accident in spite of living close to Heathrow and later becoming a pilot. I would have been 20 yrs old at that time and thought I knew just about everything that had happened and was happening at Heathrow. A reminder of just how quickly things can go tragically wrong, one crew land the plane, no problems, off home or to the hotel, the next crew get airborne and suffers a fatal failure of some essential item. The lottery of life.
@brookwimbury8342
@brookwimbury8342 9 ай бұрын
I remember this BKS accident and the subsequent BEA Trident crass in Staines.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 Жыл бұрын
8:30 This is not true. Not all aircraft have flaps. Several models of aircraft, such as the Taylor/Piper J-3 Cub don't have flaps because they don't need there. As you move down in size and performance you have a situation of diminishing returns. At some point the flaps simply don't make enough difference to be worth it.
@matthewc7334
@matthewc7334 3 ай бұрын
I saw this aircraft on the approach from my parents' house in Kingston. I was also listening to the Tower on 118.2 - aircraft landing 28L or 28R went out of my sight at the outer marker. Then I heard the next aircraft to land seeing mention smoke on the ground ahead...
@KTRisnot
@KTRisnot 11 ай бұрын
Thanks
@theapplecraft1672
@theapplecraft1672 Жыл бұрын
Well seeing in the comment that some people say the viscount involved in this accident also gotten into another accident, is freaking me out. that 2 aircraft involved in this accident (trident and viscount) gotten in to another accident that kill lot people
@ihatemegatron216
@ihatemegatron216 10 ай бұрын
Quick correction. The high lift devices that extended from the leading edge of a wing are not flaps, they are slats. Flaps are only on the trailing edge.
@markjennings2315
@markjennings2315 Жыл бұрын
I flew aircraft based at Heathrow and have never heard of this event. The Trident flight I certainly have heard about though.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder how often things like that have happened really. It's something out of Final Destination, just get on a plane and have it run into and through a building. Makes me also wonder about how building codes are and if they are designed to cope with impacts from planes. esigning a building to withstand a car or truck hitting it is one thing. A plane? Mmm, bigger problem.
@mjc8281
@mjc8281 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of BEA411 at Manchester Airport(Ringway) that you did a video on a year or so ago.
@lyedavide
@lyedavide Жыл бұрын
The worst possible failure at the worst possible time. I don't think the weather conditions would have made much difference. I'm astonished that anymore survived at all.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 Жыл бұрын
13:00 The sad part is, the pilot made the correct choice here, given what the pilot knew. If you can't stabilize your approach with the aircraft at the right speed, in the correct position and configured for landing, or if the approach should become unstable at some point the pilot is trained to abandon the approach and go around. The most common cause for what the pilot is experiencing is wake turbulence. Wake turbulence can induce an uncommented bank. I would bet good money that the pilot believed he had hit wake turbulence and died still thinking that.
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 Жыл бұрын
Informative comment, cheers.
@annafellows9616
@annafellows9616 Жыл бұрын
I actually said “Oh NO” out loud when you said the mechanics borrowed from the left side
@pelnapkins4379
@pelnapkins4379 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for detailing this event. Do you think you could do a video on the Trident (G-ARPY) test flight crash in 1966?
@MavAuto-Pete
@MavAuto-Pete Жыл бұрын
Very tragic, especially as it had livestock on there as well, a maintenance error again caused a major accident. Never heard of Aloominum...lol
@RatPfink66
@RatPfink66 Жыл бұрын
i believe your people call it Alyouminnium
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg 11 ай бұрын
@@RatPfink66 Actually, "aluminum" came first, and "aluminium" came to be the 'British' version
@FranciscoCamino
@FranciscoCamino Жыл бұрын
Shocking footage 😢
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 Жыл бұрын
They were being tested during my first holiday at Fairlight, c. 1949 or 1950. I never liked the 'plane; there was something about the design that just seemed wrong. There was a Tyne Ambassador but turboprops were not generally fitted tho' Handley-Page's Herald had the Dart to upgrade it. Strangely enough, though I was living under one of Heathrow's stacking areas and we also took the London Evening News (as it then was) I do not recall this crash..
@dazuk1969
@dazuk1969 Жыл бұрын
If the wheels had touched ground wouldn't it have been better for the crew to just try and slow it down as much as possible ?....even if it was veering off course. It was well past the go around parameters at that point and applying full power for a go around just meant you are going to hit something faster and harder.
@Brian-kl1zu
@Brian-kl1zu 9 ай бұрын
Wondered that myself. A few have made the same comment; no one has replied. There must be one or two commercial pilots who can surmise?
@IceWasHere.mp4
@IceWasHere.mp4 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the Lion Air Crash Landing At Ngurah Rai Bali (I think it was Lion Air Flight 904) And Also A Great Video As Always!
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 Жыл бұрын
Wow that Trident was really jinxed wasn't it? I feel really bad for the pilots. Who knows if they hadn't performed a go around they might have lived, but a go around was the SAFE and PRUDENT option for the weirdness they experienced on trying to land. They thought they were doing the right thing and with the limited knowledge they had, they were. They can't have known. So hard on them!
@robertbandusky9565
@robertbandusky9565 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft! Corrosion probably played a part o this disaster? Similar to Lockheed Constellation 🇺🇸
@martinharvey2390
@martinharvey2390 Ай бұрын
I went on holiday to Majorca on a BKS Trident in the late 60's
@robinsattahip2376
@robinsattahip2376 Жыл бұрын
The Airspeed Ambassador was the same type involved in the February 1958 Munich Air Disaster involving the Manchester United Football Team. A fine piece of engineering, kind of the Boeing Max of its day.
@terryandjanicewillis470
@terryandjanicewillis470 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, but one tiny niggle. The Airspeed Ambassadors flaps did not increase wing area, the way that modern airliners flaps do when they trundle out on tracks. These modern ones are called Fowler Flaps. The Ambassador had Split Flaps, which means that the flaps, mounted on the underside of the wings, merely hinged when moved by the actuator, although the top surface of the wing , above the flap, does not move. It does mean that great stress is placed upon the actuator when forcing the flaps to move against the air loading, which led to the fatigue failure. Having grown up in West London, where many worked at Heathrow,, I recall that a friend's father was working on the construction of Terminal One on the day of the accident. I look forward to your future videos, whatever the frequency.
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg 11 ай бұрын
Fowler flaps were in use in the '30s; see the film of Chamberlain flying to Munich.
@nexgeo1
@nexgeo1 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how G-ARPI, one of the Tridents impacted by the crash had crashed years later with no survivors.
@martinwade9421
@martinwade9421 Жыл бұрын
Irish people remember William Hill for another reason. He was one of the "Black-and Tan" special forces sent to Ireland by Winston Churchill to quell the IRA during our War of Independence from the British empire....
@martinwade9421
@martinwade9421 Жыл бұрын
The novelist, Nevil Shute ( Norway)was a founder of Airspeed. He was a volunteer stretcher-bearer in Dublin in easter 1916, when the rebellion that led to Irish Independence broke out.
@AnAvgeek
@AnAvgeek Жыл бұрын
This proves how fatal some of these small mistakes can be.
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