This Player was a "Future STAR"... but Federer Beat him like a CHILD!

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7 ай бұрын

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@TheTopspin77
@TheTopspin77 6 ай бұрын
I remember this match and no one at the time thought Donald Young had a chance to win this match. In addition, although Donald was a great junior no one thought he was going to be a grand slam champion or a major force on the ATP tour. I don't understand the headline of this video. "Beat him like a CHILD! " It was a typical Federer match and Donald played his best.
@amsd1231
@amsd1231 6 ай бұрын
I remember the media hyping him up as an American tennis phenom(like they are doing with Shelton).
@johnandersson8258
@johnandersson8258 6 ай бұрын
The title most likely is a wordplay on Donald's last name, since it's Young. Not a good one, granted, but the most likely explanation.
@titusstrom5727
@titusstrom5727 6 ай бұрын
He was pretty hyped for a while. The guy was an amazing junior and turned pro at 14@@amsd1231
@mpa1931
@mpa1931 5 ай бұрын
@@amsd1231 Shelton has already achieved more than Young did in his whole tennis career
@touluevang3471
@touluevang3471 5 ай бұрын
Just gotta work on playing smarter. Feel like most of the time his shots weren't wife enough hence why roger can get to those shot so fast. Can see him trying but he definitely wasn't confident hence why he started going stronger and making bigger shot, but it just lessens his accuracy and ball kept going out.
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne 25 күн бұрын
When it comes to Tennis, nothing is more exceptional and beautiful than what Mr. Roger Federer had to show us. Complete Legend!
@edgillis4686
@edgillis4686 7 ай бұрын
So many levels in tennis. What appears to be messing with Young’s mind in this match is how quickly Federer is on top of Young’s shots. Young responds by going for bigger and bigger shots as the match progresses. Federer won this match with his feet - leaving Young with the impression that its a long way to the top - if ya wanna rock n roll with the likes of Fed, Djoker and Rafa…
@kalorakalora
@kalorakalora 6 ай бұрын
Fed does that to everyone. He takes shots way earlier than most people on tour these days, cuts off the time you have to respond
@germanpenn
@germanpenn 6 ай бұрын
Roger is why we had the golden era of him, Rafa and Nole. He set the bar so high for so long, that to reach it you had to become a beast yourself. I remember Rafa trailing him as number 2 in the world for YEARS, becoming better and better every year. Same thing with Nole. And thanks to that we had the pleasure of enjoying for more than a decade perhaps the best 3 players of all time playing each other .
@ronporter7830
@ronporter7830 6 ай бұрын
I don’t recall Donald Young being hyped in the US… like ever!
@luigicirelli2583
@luigicirelli2583 2 ай бұрын
with good reason as we can see - no up to the task
@danielradu7853
@danielradu7853 6 ай бұрын
Nadal djokovic and Federer in the same class with Federer the valecdictorian.
@jonburton1935
@jonburton1935 6 ай бұрын
Federer is a completely different class.
@MentalWarrior217
@MentalWarrior217 11 күн бұрын
Federer vs Alcaraz or Sinner would still be my favorite fictive match up
@trumpingtonfanhurst694
@trumpingtonfanhurst694 6 ай бұрын
I remember seeing Young once or twice back then and liked his play, but then didn't see him again. I just read something about his parents, other drama, etc. Imagine what it takes to play at World Championship level tennis. Few are those who do.
@vjr6939
@vjr6939 7 ай бұрын
Alcaraz fantastic player, but there is nobody currently on par w big 3, in fact don’t think we will see anyone in our lifetime who is same level as Djoko, Fed or Rafa
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 7 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@yakzivz1104
@yakzivz1104 6 ай бұрын
Nah I think that Alcaraz, Medvedev, and Sinner are going to be the next big 3.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 6 ай бұрын
@@yakzivz1104 Agreed, but that doesn't address the main point here. So as to your point, agreed, with some substantial interference from a Rune, Rudd, Shelton..... and maybe Korda. Your Tsitsi's, Tiafoe's, FAA are all going to be down a tier.
@yakzivz1104
@yakzivz1104 6 ай бұрын
@@KingCast65 My comment directly addresses the main point- I literally listed the next big 3 in my opinion. I didn't list any of the players that you listed and it is perfectly fine for you to disagree with my perspective. I most definitely disagree with yours and the OP's perspective. Sinner has been giving Djokovic a run for his money lately and Alcaraz is improving at a rapid pace. Medvedev is always a threat.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 6 ай бұрын
@@yakzivz1104 No biggie - we are not in large disagreement ab out the future, but as to the present even with Sinner's brilliant recent KO's it's still a stretch to say even he is 'on par' with the Big 3 when he hasn't even yet won a Major.
@mellow5123
@mellow5123 7 ай бұрын
Interesting though how Rog had to play very aggressively to match that guy who was relentless. Lots more power hitting from RF, rather than ebbs and flows of finesse. Less dancing than powering through. Had to put up what he's faced with and of course beat him. Tiring match, I'm sure.
@perfectionbox
@perfectionbox 7 ай бұрын
Young should be proud. Most players dream of getting a point on Federer, but Young managed to even break serve. Pity about the unforced errors though.
@luigicirelli2583
@luigicirelli2583 2 ай бұрын
consistency is 100% of the sport
@stepaushi
@stepaushi 3 ай бұрын
6-3 6-2 6-4 is a strong win, but "Beat him like a CHILD" is false sensationalizing for youtube hits. 👎
@jollymolly2521
@jollymolly2521 6 ай бұрын
Hehehehehehe...FH at 7:19... that reminds me of a story from about 6 years ago when some of the young Americans players were talking about playing Roger for the first time in a real match because some of them had practiced with him. IIRC it was Fritz or Tiafoe who said they thought he'd hit harder...until he did and all he could do was watch it go by them.. LOL!
@janethu9169
@janethu9169 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful.
@camalary
@camalary 7 ай бұрын
This reminds me of Pete Sampras 2002 US Open against another upcoming American player with a lot of power, Andy Roddick. Sampras beat Roddick and the score of that match is very similar to this match.
@pydiboy
@pydiboy 6 ай бұрын
Roddick, however, was a very successful player on the ATP tour. Best American tennis player and won a grand slam. Young was never of that.....
@amaurydiaz7438
@amaurydiaz7438 6 ай бұрын
Donald Young never turned into the player he was supposed to be. He was a coulda shoulda.
@aysundogan755
@aysundogan755 7 ай бұрын
I believe they have different talents.Federer was playing with intelligence, technique and logic. Alcaraz in the other hand , play with stamina , power and endurance. Different mentality...
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 7 ай бұрын
Alcaraz plays with intelligence and logic too..
@aysundogan755
@aysundogan755 7 ай бұрын
I meant his biggest strength, ofcourse Alcaraz is smart , if you are one of the top players in tennis , you have to be very smart.
@yakzivz1104
@yakzivz1104 6 ай бұрын
all top players play with intelligence and technique- that is not unique to Fed. One cannot make the top 10 with poor technique and no court strategies.
@aysundogan755
@aysundogan755 5 ай бұрын
I will explain what I really meant, because Alcaraz is very young, his stamina and energy outweighs his other talents.
@caspersrensen8693
@caspersrensen8693 6 ай бұрын
What a terribly degrading title, utterly disgraceful and disrespectful!
@stevel.2759
@stevel.2759 7 ай бұрын
Donald Young was killing UCLA alumni journeymen at the Calabasas challenger in 2007 I think. They couldn't keep up during practice rallies he was too clean! I watched and listened. And Federer won easily here. So many levels.
@johnwilkinson4683
@johnwilkinson4683 2 ай бұрын
Federer beat everyone like a child. I recommend changing the title. Donald was the top ranked Junior back then. The press was hungering for the next big star and saw the potential in him.
@JohnnyJohns-eb9qb
@JohnnyJohns-eb9qb 6 ай бұрын
Make that "distant future" star. Like a century or so.
@redtesta
@redtesta 4 ай бұрын
why is score blocked out?
@Agent77X
@Agent77X 4 ай бұрын
Donald Young the greatest ATP player ever!
@polokucoch8112
@polokucoch8112 6 ай бұрын
This version of Federer seems to be able to beat alcaraz in my opinion. Graceful Tennis without burning yourself out like carlos.
@rustamsharapov464
@rustamsharapov464 6 ай бұрын
Almost every version of Federer (
@polokucoch8112
@polokucoch8112 6 ай бұрын
@@rustamsharapov464 I think you have great insight. alcaraz is just destroying his body and doesn't play smart for the long run.
@rhoclouds
@rhoclouds 5 ай бұрын
@@rustamsharapov464 alcaraz isn't a great returner aside from the rare insane strike up the line. he has trouble returning mediocre servers and therefore would get absolutely obliterated by federer's serve. his versatility, disguise, and precision would get 20+ aces against the young spaniard.
@brokeboy4559
@brokeboy4559 5 ай бұрын
wish we could have seen them play
@polokucoch8112
@polokucoch8112 5 ай бұрын
@@brokeboy4559 Yeah. Would have been nice to see.
@alishahid9253
@alishahid9253 7 ай бұрын
highly exaggerated title
@danield.7359
@danield.7359 5 ай бұрын
Young's highest ranking was 38, now, Jan 1st 2024, beyond 1000 somewhere. Obviously no serious ATP career anymore. God knows to what extent his health got damaged by the repetition of a certain medical procedure in 2021 and 2022. However, in this match he seemed be lacking self confidence, being his own opponent. And he actually wasn't even giving his best. Young just didn't run enough in this match. That's what happens if you're hyped up to the sky and then have a reality check with half of USA sitting in front of the TV watching your failure.
@martillopis9814
@martillopis9814 4 ай бұрын
never heard of that donald young until today
@user-bx1sz9kw6z
@user-bx1sz9kw6z 5 ай бұрын
A只是個好手,F是大師,無法比
@denisfogel286
@denisfogel286 4 ай бұрын
Young should be thankful he didn’t have to play a prime Federer(2005-2008).
@kylemoland1365
@kylemoland1365 7 ай бұрын
Yeah Donald young was massively over hyped
@TheMarciolima1967
@TheMarciolima1967 4 ай бұрын
I think Youg played well, he broke Federer sometimes.
@Bontsr
@Bontsr 5 ай бұрын
Tell me when D Young became a star please I probably missed this part
@whowantstoknow401
@whowantstoknow401 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunate that Fed didn't win a single Slam from Wim 2012 to Aus 2017. Esp in 2014, 2015
@unowen7591
@unowen7591 7 ай бұрын
Not sure if Young was a “future star” but ok
@tennnis498
@tennnis498 7 ай бұрын
He was hyped, similar to Eugenie Bouchard. In the tennis mecca of Atlanta, he was well known and one of the biggest hopes ever. To this day, Chris Eubanks mentions him as being instrumental to his own development. At the time of Young, I don’t think we had many American men in the top 50, but I may be wrong.
@springfield03sniper
@springfield03sniper 7 ай бұрын
@@tennnis498young was there with the Sam Querrey, and Isner generation. My former doubles partner actually played DY in juniors when DY was 13 and my former dubs partner was 14, and he said DY had phenomenal,hands at that age and was a good athlete.
@TheseHoesAreLoyal
@TheseHoesAreLoyal 7 ай бұрын
He was the next big American potential in 2006-2008, kinda like Gael Monfils. But he couldn't even achieve half of what Monfils did.
@TheseHoesAreLoyal
@TheseHoesAreLoyal 7 ай бұрын
@@tennnis498 Bouchard became hyped after she reached the Wimbledon final in 2014, not before that. Donald Young was already hyped as a junior after he won the 2005 Australian open junior championships as the youngest male player and then went on to finish 2005 as the world no.1 junior player.
@TheseHoesAreLoyal
@TheseHoesAreLoyal 7 ай бұрын
@@springfield03sniper Young was overhyped as a junior tennis player and was practically a washout during his years on the ATP tour as a men's player. Querrey achieved much more than Young and Isner much more than Querrey.
@KikiLetsgoo
@KikiLetsgoo 5 ай бұрын
when i looked at him i thought "KANYE??"
@danielkane8533
@danielkane8533 7 ай бұрын
If you actually look at Young’s technique in this video, it’s not as refined as the new young stars arising(Shelton, Sinner, Felix, Fils etc.). He looks too stiff when he hits his shots, hardly bends his knees, and is too close to the ball when he hits it. At a young age he became pro but didn’t take advantage of the time he had to make himself better which could’ve been done with realizing the weaknesses in his game, and fixing them. With that being said he’s stayed at the same level for the last 15 years with little to no improvement so it’s obvious that the above is correct.
@benj10s
@benj10s 7 ай бұрын
Actually his groundie technique was just as good. It was his serve, tactics, fitness and mental game that kept him from getting better. He had enough talent, but stuck with his parents as coaches and never grew up as a result. His serve was never fast enough, and he didn't try to change anything after. His forehand and backhand is actually better than Shelton's but Shelton's serve was miles faster and heavier, plus he's willing to come to the net more than Young. Young also didn't add anything like drop shots or slices. And if he got more time in the weight room, he'd be able to crack shots like Shelton more. But he also didn't play smart, just trying to hit it hard to Fed's forehand and not spin it heavy to the backhand like Shelton does until he gets an attackable ball.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 7 ай бұрын
@@benj10s I think you analysis is bit more accurate.
@nickfury959
@nickfury959 7 ай бұрын
Too bad. I’ve seen him in Omaha in 2005 at NE high school state championship. I was an exchange student from Thailand at LHS in junior high competed in class B double. I believed he was in sophomore year and already turned Pro. Years later I saw him on TV he did not grow up an inch nor his physique improve. 😢 I hope he is doing well in his life.
@danielkane8533
@danielkane8533 7 ай бұрын
@benj10s yeah a combination of both forsure. Tactics I agree. He kind of just hit the ball anywhere.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 6 ай бұрын
@@danielkane8533 Yeah man at that elite level of tennis you've got to have it all. I was never more than HS 3rd singles/club player 4-4.5 kinda guy but I still know the Game and love it.
@Mr10usdad
@Mr10usdad 6 ай бұрын
Donald statistically had one of the weakest serves on the tour. This a was a major problem for him. He had trouble holding serve. It put a lot pressure on him.
@rhoclouds
@rhoclouds 5 ай бұрын
donald young's best slam results were the 4th round of the us open. he had around a 40% singles record and only beat three top 10 players in his entire career. 2012 federer beating someone of this status shouldn't be much of a shocker or accomplishment haha; he was only really hyped up in american media. federer lost promptly after to the likes of tomas berdych who had only won two atp 250s that year.
@gavinf.7890
@gavinf.7890 5 ай бұрын
Yeah honestly I'm not sure what this video is for lol. Just a typical one-sided match between Roger and a low ranked player. Somehow it's being treated as some kind of historic or unusual occurrence? Besides I was never under the impression that Donald Young was considered a "star" by anyone who closely followed the sport. Idk
@ridgero
@ridgero 4 ай бұрын
I thought Federer will be the champ in 2012, but nope :/
@Khinh-xq6lx
@Khinh-xq6lx 5 ай бұрын
prime federer performance
@andreaho
@andreaho 27 күн бұрын
Not even close! His prime time is 2004-2008 with brutal attacking styles and ballet footwork.
@evanrobinson3844
@evanrobinson3844 7 ай бұрын
Beat him like a child 🧐
@sybersecurity277
@sybersecurity277 6 ай бұрын
If Roger would not have choked 3 times in a Slam against Nole, it would be propably 23:21 in Slams now.
@gigyoung1983
@gigyoung1983 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 You nut hugger, you. Feddy must take his seat behind Nadal and two seats behind Nole in the triumvirate order…forederer, er, forever. Don’t forget the “mono” excuse, too, Mueller.😅
@Jimbojoebob
@Jimbojoebob 6 ай бұрын
Gee, I wonder why he was hyped.
@malinamooz6095
@malinamooz6095 7 ай бұрын
Donald who?
@johnm5131
@johnm5131 6 ай бұрын
US media is always looking for some young hip POC to replace the William's Legacy. The hype and fawning is nice, and encouraging, but also rather superficial. I'm not sure if it gives the player any psychological help. Probably just puts added pressure on their careers.
@fraerot
@fraerot 6 ай бұрын
noone can forgot Wimbledon 2019 and you know who got his nose red
@yoyoon9761
@yoyoon9761 6 ай бұрын
Maybe because I'm a Hokie, but he looks sorta like Michael Vick, even left handed. Anyone?
@freakofgoodsoul
@freakofgoodsoul 6 ай бұрын
peRFection
@h-dawg1876
@h-dawg1876 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what would have happen to these early days if he went to the bigger racquet. Probably would have won a lot more titles. But it’s crazy that Federer was so dominant with a racquet head size of 97. Others having 100 or bigger like Novak and nadal
@KoRnBaL19
@KoRnBaL19 5 ай бұрын
Young needed dad to leave and get a different coach
@mpa1931
@mpa1931 5 ай бұрын
Donald Young is a future star said no one ever, what a dumb title.
@petersu4869
@petersu4869 4 ай бұрын
what's the point of this video? you just posted a bunch of replays
@wvmnst
@wvmnst 6 ай бұрын
Title a bit misleading... doesn't look like Roger beat Young that easy. Was a reasonable outcome for Young, it's just the winners by Roger are awesome!! :o)
@ferruccioveglio8090
@ferruccioveglio8090 4 ай бұрын
Young a future star? Oh yeah, clickbaiting...
@josipdolibasic4143
@josipdolibasic4143 6 ай бұрын
Career record 124-190 (39.5%) Career titles 0 Highest ranking No. 38 (27 February 2012) Current ranking No. 698 (07 August 2023)[1]
@gavinf.7890
@gavinf.7890 5 ай бұрын
"Future star" meaning we're still waiting on it to happen...
@massivemoon7495
@massivemoon7495 6 ай бұрын
Always good to see "hyped american rising superstars blablabla" getting roasted. Young was a good player tho. Shelton can go back to NFL or something. #closedcall
@dmahan8841
@dmahan8841 5 ай бұрын
Aaahhhh Donald Young. Never hit a single tennis ball without his mom by the sideline. Not a single ball. Parents would not hire a real coach. Donald switched racket brands yearly. Had the worst attitude ever. Had low ish power so got over powered too often. I totally blame the mom. He was a real talent and should have stayed top 50 for 12 years...or so.
@niceguy1774
@niceguy1774 6 ай бұрын
Donald Young. Blurring out the names and score is cringe. Aren't you embarrassed?
@pratnama
@pratnama 6 ай бұрын
he was not 23 but 26 dude!
@eyesOnJayda
@eyesOnJayda 5 ай бұрын
3, 2 and 4 isnt beating one like child
@kw19193
@kw19193 6 ай бұрын
Young was never more than a chump. But as a black in a traditionally white sport the American sports media of course had to portray him as the second coming with the only thing between him and the record books was his inexperience. Good riddance. Cheers!
@mcximus
@mcximus 4 ай бұрын
Seen Donald Young when he's in his late teen. He's overrated.
@StealthyAssassin007
@StealthyAssassin007 4 ай бұрын
young biggest flop of all time
@kham08
@kham08 6 ай бұрын
yeah, I don't get the setup. Was expecting Young to have two bagels and a 1-6 set. He lost two of the sets by one break. How much better is this kid supposed to be against a prime Fed in a Slam?
@lszujo73
@lszujo73 7 ай бұрын
difference between practicing 5 hours a day vs 8-10 hours a day....because Young had the talent
@beast602
@beast602 4 ай бұрын
Title is clickbait. A pro tennis player broken 4 times by Federer in 3 sets at the height of his powers . Federer did that to top ten players. Not noteworthy. Roger was indeed amazing and so much of what he did was beautiful. Now I don’t like you. Enjoy that click! #dontrecommend
@KainSwiss
@KainSwiss 5 ай бұрын
Terrible title. Donald played ok. Just too many errors. I've seen worse matches against Federer than this one.
@YuzukiEba
@YuzukiEba 5 ай бұрын
ah another federer dickrider video, very classy
@themaster5185
@themaster5185 6 ай бұрын
ennesimo bidone del tennis modiale, brocco e scarso.
@dusansumina5087
@dusansumina5087 7 ай бұрын
9 out of the last 10 videos were all about Federer.I get that hes retired but you could put a little more Djokovic,Nadal or Murray videos
@yakzivz1104
@yakzivz1104 6 ай бұрын
completely agree with you.
@aemiliadelroba4022
@aemiliadelroba4022 7 ай бұрын
Young was never a good player ! he just gave up and left ! 😮
@TheTopspin77
@TheTopspin77 6 ай бұрын
I would say he was a decent player. He was top 40 on the ATP tour in 2012 and number 1 as a junior so he had some talent, but he was never a great player hence he never made top 20.
@giamp8127
@giamp8127 5 ай бұрын
Far from being a star
@samlee3056
@samlee3056 7 ай бұрын
US media hypes up american tennis players that aren't even good. Then it was Young, now it's Shelton
@mpham815
@mpham815 7 ай бұрын
Shelton actually just won an ATP title in Tokyo though and reached world #15. Also reached the semis of a grand slam just a month ago. Young never did of any of this. Shelton's hype is actually kind of warranted lol
@c3vzn
@c3vzn 7 ай бұрын
@@mpham815 Exactly. "Not even good" lol, barely had one year on tour and is already beating the best players in the world.
@dannycooper7552
@dannycooper7552 7 ай бұрын
You must be Top 10 yourself to say those players aren't "even good"
@GGGinJe
@GGGinJe 7 ай бұрын
@@dannycooper7552 Well said!
@billybobjosh
@billybobjosh 7 ай бұрын
but boy does he ever serve it fast
@heliumbiscuits
@heliumbiscuits 7 ай бұрын
Very weird title choice on this video. Pro-child abuse vibes.
@user-es8tt4nr2z
@user-es8tt4nr2z 7 ай бұрын
why was federer #1, where the hell was Djokovic
@lmadigan1971
@lmadigan1971 7 ай бұрын
That is funny If Alcaraz attacked prime Federers backhand it would have broken down just the same as Rafael did to him
@unowen7591
@unowen7591 7 ай бұрын
Federer beat Djokovic at Wimbledon a few months ago before this and reached world number 1 by winning Wimbledon. You must be new to tennis.
@user-es8tt4nr2z
@user-es8tt4nr2z 7 ай бұрын
@@unowen7591 Well that's unbelievable considering 21xx was the prime of Djokovic and Federer faded.
@unowen7591
@unowen7591 7 ай бұрын
@@user-es8tt4nr2z Lol yeah you must have just started watching tennis. Yeah go back to watching 2012 matches before you try and start acting tough.
@MistahhMingus
@MistahhMingus 7 ай бұрын
Dude you’re gonna make your fans angry this isn’t the Serbian wolf goat, this is some weak era baby playing
@Gilgarth
@Gilgarth 7 ай бұрын
Do I have to remind you that Djokovic reigns over a weak era since a few years ago? 🤣
@sean9267
@sean9267 7 ай бұрын
Novak got alot better after all of those lessons Roger gave him.
@panneetantinukul5658
@panneetantinukul5658 7 ай бұрын
The joker Covid is king of toilet breaks after losing 2-1 sets.
@dannycooper7552
@dannycooper7552 7 ай бұрын
He did this like two or three times and he's not even the only one...Come on guys stop being babies...@@panneetantinukul5658
@unowen7591
@unowen7591 7 ай бұрын
Seems like he’s just making you angry, kid 😂 Typical insecure little Djokovic fanboy. Next 👋
@Matthew9818
@Matthew9818 7 ай бұрын
Alcaraz is so overrated . He has none of the class Federer does . Still a good player but it’s no comparison .
@Gilgarth
@Gilgarth 7 ай бұрын
Courts changed from the time of Federers prime to today. So of course they can’t be compared. But what I like about Federer, he always adapted his game to his age, the change of the courts and his opponents.
@Jay23445
@Jay23445 7 ай бұрын
Bro relax. Just because he doesn’t have the class of Federer doesn’t make him overrated. Nobody does. Alcaraz is incredibly talented and shows amazing potential. Federer is already cemented as an all time great. No need to be petty for no reason
@virat5828
@virat5828 7 ай бұрын
Well he has beaten Djokovic in a Wimbledon final, still a dream for many.
@FrankHor101
@FrankHor101 7 ай бұрын
Alcaraz is pure athleticism as Nadal was
@pauljohnson6019
@pauljohnson6019 7 ай бұрын
Shut your mouth, and be glad Alcaraz won Wimbledon! He jusr saved Federer from being equalled- Federer is a bit of a Frauderer tbh, if you want to get picky, two mp on his own serve, which would have put him at 9WB, and the undisputed GOAT- Alcaraz did God's work this year, and we should be forever grateful for that, or you Fedfans would have had another dagger in the heart!
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