This PLUSHIE Was $400...And The Clothes Don't Even Fit

This plushie drama is a big mess o.o what are your thoughts on it? My theory is that they use overseas manufactures which is why the communication is so bad :o
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[@LadyFluffistein-oj3dj]

It's obvious they don't make it themselves. You have to make a pattern you cut out and sew together. A pattern you measure before making it.... I think they ordered doll and clothes from different suppliers.

[@Kakavsprunkiofficial]

bro your gay:|

[@CorpusPrion]

+1 confirming this, this entire shop is something I looked into before and everything on it is purchased from cheap chinese producers that they then markup (this includes the custom items, you can get a doll like this made overseas for much less than 400) and the rest are either dropshipped or resold items they didn’t make. this entire thing is a massive scam.

[@Cuppppps]

And usually people who do stuff like this have simple templates (like a basic T-shirt/ shorts) to measure the size of the fabric to the right proportions for the different available sizes and base extras off of that base. It's risky not to since you might make clothing wrong way to many times before it fits right.

[@sams9462]

I don’t think this shop from the states I the the seller is also in china because of the poor English

[@galacticfire9727]

Probably Vograce

[@Babybearcroche]

I make custom crochet dolls and i think it's already shady that they don't give progress updates, i do a single detail and send to my customers "is that what you wanted? Wanna change anything before it's done?" I ask like 20 times

[@random_dragon]

I do art for people and am absolutely the same way My friend has bought commissions from other people and I'm constantly astonished at the apparent lack of communication Like, there's no way I'm not double checking the hair color at least 3 times-

[@Tonithealtwing]

This is a bit different to plushes or art like random_dragon brought up but I’ll occasionally write things for my friends, and my friends can tell when I start writing them because I ask so many seemingly unrelated questions to what they actually wanted. I want to get every little detail correct so I’ll DM them when it’s like 1 AM in their time zone being like “what’s your character’s favorite flavor of protein shake”

[@random_dragon]

@@Tonithealtwing dude, that's such a vibe though lol

[@josefujosta]

@@TonithealtwingME LOL

[@crybaby6845]

That's the best thing you can do!

[@KryaDiere]

Ok I'm very well versed in this because I took part in like over 30 group orders in chinese communities for custom plushies and I can sew myself. This is a chinese doll style for sure. 20cm is the the most common size. I'm not surprised the clothes factory made it in 20cm. 30cm is really rare and considered a "kpop doll" size, not a chinese doll size. #2, you can order get these "one-off" dolls from china (about $100-$200 depending). Usually they do offer custom clothes but chinese girls know to go to an actual "doll clothes" factory to have them made as the skill level/quality is so much higher. This seller is def buying a one-off doll from these chinese factories, and probably got the clothes done in a clothes factory. By default 70% of the doll clothes in china are made for 20cm, 25% for 15cm and 5% for 10cm dolls though 10cm is rapidly gaining popularity these days. Since the clothes factory and the doll (body) are different factories, anything above 20cm would not have "global" base pattern unlike 20cm. If you buy 20cm from one factory, it should fit your random 20cm chinese doll like 99.999% of the time cos they use roughly the same dimensions. The clothes factory probably just randomly drafted one for 30cm based on guesstimate cos it's that rare lol..... Also it's a really basic ass jumpsuit without custom embroidery (for the patches etc, this costs more) so the factory def already got a pattern for it hence why they got the first 20cm one done like almost immediately. lol Usually an artist will draw the color-accurate sketch and send it to the factory, the factory's "designer" (that's what they call the embroidery software expert) will make a color-accurate digital embroidery file (closest thread color they have) based on your artwork. The fact that you don't even have to send a sketch to buy a doll tells me that this seller is also using a "default template" face. This makes the doll even cheaper cos the factory already has these "base faces" digital files in their library and just changes the eye color and turn on and off the beard lol. That's probably why it was blue initially lmao. Typically it DOES take about 6 months to get it done if you're only ordering one. Hence why we hold group orders for these and they go as large as 500pcs and up for popular artists/characters. This bumps you up in the queue and you can get it in about 3 months. This also drops the price down to a whooping $30 per doll! Crazy right. In this 3 months it takes a LOT of back and forth, voting within the group, making tweaks to the eyes shape, even the color of the thread used for the eyeballs and if you buy so many, the factory usually lets you make 2-3 changes for free (digitally). Each time they have to actually sew/make the plush (head at least), then ship it to the group leader for real life inspection. Each draft plushie costs an extra like $50-100 depending on how big of a change you made so we also vote on whether we want to even make the draft or not. Longest one I waited for was 8 months because the group leader chose to make the clothes in the same factory as the doll and there were soooo many changes to be made. Yes clothes also need drafts. TLDR: Seller is def outsourcing to china and earning about $200 profit based on my estimation. lol

[@CorpusPrion]

@@KryaDiere replying to bump this comment hopefully! This is really important information that I’m surprised wasn’t taken time to be researched.

[@flhuffl69]

i also got some dolls from these chinese communities (I still have some in production becuz it DOES take time) and in discord servers dedicated to collecting chinese doll style I got a 10 cm doll almost $30 from a group order of a character i like. I also bought a 20cm that's around $50 from a fellow doll collector (also another character). I'm not incredibly well versed in this like @KyraDiere is because I order them through a GMM (proxy basically). usually there are listings on weidian (chinese app) and announcements about it on weibo (w/ characters from various fandoms. there's a lot of surprising characters I see lol) I never ordered custom dolls myself, but @KyraDiere is on point with their info from what I've experienced and heard myself dolls are definitely an expensive hobby, it gets pretty pricey when converting currency and stuff (fortunately, my proxy can convert currency for anything on weidian/taobao, so it benefits everyone's wallets) finding a good proxy or doll GO person who is good at communicating with the buyers is the way to go. I wouldn't rely on platforms like etsy for custom dolls tbh...

[@Parsnips001]

Yeah I saw the style of this doll, and it immediately reminded me of ones I'd seen on Ali and vograce, and figured there was probably no way this person was actually making them. It does kinda make me want a custom plushie though...

[@ricktastica]

I recently got into Chinese factory dolls and the look of this one was really obvious to me. Though it looks like some factories advertise their sample making on etsy (I wouldnt say thats ideal but when I was looking at dolls a lot of these 1 off dolls by factories were up on etsy). Hope your comment gets bumped up more. It's a very informative comment too, I learned a bit here. (Plus if anyone is interested in making this style themselves, Check out piyopicco who sells a body pattern and has doll and eye embroidery tutorials on youtube! another maker on Japanese website BOOTH, named ota-made, sells doll patterns in this style as well.) My goal is to learn how to embroidery nicely then sew a doll myself - yippee.

[@telisia5168]

30cm tall chinese dolls are very popular nowadays, but the popular versions are 20cm doll size + longer legs = 30cm tall dolls. So it's really not surprising that the doll clothing manufacturer probably misunderstood and did a "30cm tall" doll outfit instead (which is literally just 20cm clothing plus longer leg portions), but since the jumpsuit's leg portions are open-ended and 30cm tall dolls fit as well, they didn't bother to extend the leg portions further down (probably due to a lot of customized 30cm tall dolls having huge fanned out paws for legs instead of slim, straight legs). These kinds of things require the customer, aka that etsy seller, to communicate with the manufacturer, which they obviously didn't.

[@Abbiegooberr]

Ugh I hate online stores like this>:( I’ve ordered loads of custom plushies for my fav characters that don’t have merch/plushies of them and I hate when people scam like this

[@inspectorbunebi]

Hello! Do you maybe have some shops you can recommend and have good experiences with? I was thinking about getting custom plushies too, but I‘m afraid of this exact thing happening, so I‘m trying to figure out which shops are trustworthy!

[@fristi_201]

@@inspectorbunebiI’ve ordered once from BajkoweCuda! They’re pretty good prices for custom plushies, a 10 inch plush costs €80 and a 11 inch €90. When my plush arrived i was so happy and satisfied, i recommend that shop :3 (they sell out very quickly tho) The shop owner is also very friendly and helpful!

[@Eiol01]

Hi hi! Im also looking for recommendations, Im wanting plushies from my ocs since forever 😭

[@Abbiegooberr]

@@inspectorbunebimy mom ordered them sorry I can’t remember what shops they were from😭

[@LacieAnimations]

@@AbbiegooberrBro can you ask her? 😭🙏

[@Rvandrsluis]

7:10 they’ve sent a fake tracking number and marked it shipped before it’s done to try and keep their shop up to standard for the “top seller” qualifications, certain boxes need to be ticked for a seller to get verified as a top seller and be recommended by the Etsy algorithm and you don’t qualify if either your orders dispatch late or you don’t provide tracking when completing and order. This store is trying to make it look like they’re doing both by marking orders complete and putting in fake tracking. Needs to be reported

[@CodenameOtacon]

THIS!! They do this so people can't get their money back. When I wanted to file a case through Etsy, I couldn't cause the tracking they sent me didn't work. So, I filed a case through PayPal, and I was able to get my full refund.

[@CaptEef]

The problem is Etsy doesn’t have a place to report these stores. You can open a case after talking to the seller and that’s it. And with the way the case system works you are put into a chat log with the seller and Etsy & you’re only given a very short response option to say what’s wrong and it has to be about the quality of the product. Etsy’s customer support is ASS & it took way to bunch haggling with the seller to get my money back

[@GummyDinosaursify]

The one time I had to deal with a seller giving me the wrong tracking number (they claimed they were "dizzy" and put the wrong number in, whatever that meant) and then ghosting me for a month, I contact customer support and they fully refunded me. The product showed up to my house three months later, which was super bizarre. The store stopped selling things a month after that. No clue what happened there.

[@Pericat11]

Yeah, I’ve been scammed like this before

[@MacabreDaymare]

I had an issue with a seller that made patches, I got a tracking number that said it would be shipped from a certain time frame, I waited that time and a couple weeks after. The seller closed their shop after my item was “shipped”, I tried contacting them and waited DAYS for them, and they only got back to me after Etsy contacted me and got me a refund.

[@OrganDusa]

The sketch of the plush looks like Mr.Beast not Markiplier LMAO

[@Y0y0kur0_San3g1yu]

Real

[@AUR1CHEART]

LMFAOO best way to explain it😭

[@-Sponch-]

Markiplier doesn't have that hair or that color of eyes-😓 (it def looks like Mr beast..)

[@ElectroLiteanimatons]

No it’s James Marriott(idk)

[@ghostyvamps]

@@ElectroLiteanimatons oh my god a james marriott fan?!?

[@Skykristal]

The clothing issue gave me a big laugh. No responsible maker would do this. You test the clothing on the plushy. Its obvious they're not doing it themselves or have designers right by their side working with them in a team. Thats made somewhere else for sure.

[@BriBreeBri]

I took one look at the doll style and knew off the bat that it's a aliexpress custom doll. And to be fair, doing a SINGLE custom doll, even through a supplier from Aliexpress, can be expensive. Esp if the detailing on the doll and/clothes is a large amount... Etsy has long since fallen from my good graces. It's long since become another Ebay (minus the auction) and it's disgusting. It used to be for artist and letting artist thrive. Now, they are buried under resellers and scammers.

[@draconicfeline6177]

I was looking for cool yarn bowls and found a cool dragon one that, you guessed it, was a common 3d print/dropseller garbage item. There were so many bad reviews in the profile... I think I'll find a local woodcrafter and ask for a custom one.

[@RenSugiura]

Basically this are resellers, but instead of reselling a product they resell a service, making their service be more expensive to get a cut of the profitt. Basically a service that would cost 200$ costs 300$ for them to pocket 100$ just for being a middle man.

[@LukenYo]

9:24 actually yes, many people can say dress instead of outfit. Because dress up in some languages goes same as "put on clothes" so they might think that the dress part also means clothes (i say that as a portuguese speaker who did mistaken this for almost 3 years 😭)

[@kailathefox]

I didn't know that as an English speaker that other languages refer to dressing up as putting clothes on in general. Very interesting. Your English is also spectacular!! I work with a couple of Brazilians who only speak Portuguese, they're wonderful people. I wish I was able to learn languages a bit more easily. It feels impossible lol

[@LukenYo]

@kailathefox omg ty!! I only speak English like in actual daily life for less than 2 years so I'm glad you like my English! And yeah I'm it's hard to learn other languages 😭 I've been on Russian for almost 1 year and a half now and I only know the whole alphabet and a few basic words. It's so hard- I just know English now because I learnt it accidentally by watching videos as a kid, bc if it wasn't by that I wouldn't have learned too

[@mikaelastefkova]

True! We have "obléct se" for dressing up and "oblečení" for clothes in Czech, not the same, but similar enough! 🤔

[@CompanionBeans]

in english we do often say "getting dressed" or "dressing" when referring to putting on clothing, which probably doesn't help if there's already some confusion due to ones native language

[@diadally]

Plush artist here- 400 is reasonable for a custom plush, though prices vary a lot depending on the artist's skill level, complexity, etc etc. personally i dont think the mark plush is worth that much, especially with the style of the doll and that joke of an outfit. this is an embarrassment. Never in my life would i make a plush with an outfit that only fits over the doll's foot. I send sketch previews but it's very important to update the customer regularly and correct what changes the customer requests, as long as it's within reason. ^^' i know some plush artists work with others on their orders, but i make them on my own so i dont have experience there.

[@LukenYo]

What? But I know a sewed plush artist and they would charge like 10 bucks for that (and they have been working for years on this job) Like I don't get it, is it bc in US stuff are expensivier? Bc in Brasil 20 bucks would already be considered overpriced

[@LukenYo]

But yeah I agree. If a proper plushie of this type would be 400 bucks, then one like the one that they received should cost maximum 150 because it's literally a joke

[@diadally]

@LukenYo if it is a very, very simple doll or a keychain then 10 might be reasonable. Im not sure on your currency value but 10usd is maybe enough to buy food for 1 meal but not much more than that. Not sure how fast the person you are talking about makes their dolls but usually at bare minimum my work takes 10 hours. Usually more than that. im not willing to work 1-2$ per hour lol

[@hinatashouyou2790]

@@LukenYo”I know a plush artist who severely undercharges and instead of encouraging them to charge what its properly worth I think everyone should work for basically nothing like them!”

[@sofiqyu]

​@@LukenYoI buy custom dolls from factories and typically it would cost $50~$150 depending on complexity. Individual makers should cost more so I don't think this is a fair comparison, sounds like they're underpricing themselves because that doesn't even seem enough to pay for materials

[@lucafuyu1019]

I have had a custom plush of this kind made. This type of plushie is very popular within the asian fandom sphere so I will not be surprised if they outsource from a separate manufacturer. I am VERY VERY surprised that it cost 400 dollars as my own plushie, which I made the design off and only sent to the maker to be made, is a 20cm which cost only around 80 USD. Prices I've seen coming from reputable manufacturers would NOT have reached 400 dollars even for 30cm and include a design fee and custom clothing

[@sophiecheng2384]

It looks like they just changed the price from RMB to USD lol

[@gwagwa4745]

where did you get a plushie like this for 80$?

[@lucafuyu1019]

@ i had it custom made by a chinese maker. they have a pretty long waitlist and is pretty sought after whenever they have spots open there are other different makers as well with varying prices and tos, the most expensive one ive seen on the market doesnt even have prices rivaling 300 that include clothing, let alone 400 like thats actually crazy

[@spencerreidd]

​​​@@lucafuyu1019 where does the person sell the custom plushies?

[@lucafuyu1019]

@@spencerreidd you can mostly find sellers on chinese social media sites, weibo or xiaohongshu are some popular ones i got mine recommended from people who had theirs made and got me a referral

[@laceyandlucy3529]

I had actually been saving up to order a plush from this seller! Glad I saw this video before I bought anything!

[@ScarletsPuppets]

Always a good idea to research before buying, ahah!

[@marrowkurokozimoz.nightlor7919]

The most I saved up was about 4 months to get the ones I got. My fursona two times the high cost..

[@Mimix-o]

Its 100% outsourced and overpriced.. Most plushies on aliexpress that are similar are WAY cheaper.. Not around 200$ mostly 18-20$

[@iloveblahajs4982]

If the shop is from China, taobao is more likely

[@Chewingoncrayons]

Yeah, but those are made with child labour.. where the workers arent paid more than 3 dollars per day, making the price low.

[@Mimix-o]

@@Chewingoncrayons damn

[@Iwannarox]

But that's not a custom product? And it seems like the commissioner wanted a custom, HANDMADE plushie not mass produced garbage made in sweat shops. $200+ is completely fair for an artist to make a custom plush by hand.

[@Mimix-o]

@@Iwannarox its pretty obvious that im talking about custom as well.. 200$ is awesome for a doll but ali is just cheaper with the same + better quality of dolls / custom

[@maizymaizy]

A couple things: The plush being from a 3rd party would also make the price make sense. The premade ones are a lot less than the custom ones. When ordering from alibaba they charge you based on how much stock you order. Also, if they're ordering from a third party, ofc they wouldn't want to fix anything, because they already recieved the product from alibaba, and they would have to go through several more months of manufacturing and shipping, and they would have to pay out of their cut of the money to fix the mistake.

[@CrimsonJewel]

2:43 Nearly 15k Pesos for literal clothes for a doll?? You could buy a new phone with that amount here in our country. 😭

[@cherry414]

Customized stuff tend to be expensive even in the Philippines. But yeah, that's a lot of money

[@robbinslol]

Yeah fr, that price rlly shocked me. I can only dream 😭

[@CodenameOtacon]

I've ordered their Alastor plush, total cost; $101.15. Plush was $82.86, shipping cost $29.06. I found it weird that shipping is expensive when both of us live in the US. The Alastor plush did NOT look like in the listing.(I also left a review on their shop.)I was lucky to get my full refund. I opened a case with PayPal.

[@Maddie_mumbo]

aleast you got a full refund.

[@CodenameOtacon]

​@Maddie_mumbo I was very lucky. Thank goodness I paid it with PayPal. Once I got my full refund, I threw away the doll. It was so ugly to look at.

[@shaylav.8521]

That’s really weird, I hope you didn’t get scammed and also I’m not sure how much they charge for plushies so it could be me but DAMN that’s expensive. 😂

[@elliot_rat]

deserved for being a hazmat motel fan

[@Archimedes-v2o]

@@elliot_ratimagine saying someone deserves to be scammed

[@PatchworkRose567]

Just so everyone knows, Etsy does give an estimated ship date for items but it doesn’t require a shipping number to be submitted if the estimated ship date has passed until said item is actually complete and ready to ship. Providing a “temporary” shipping number was definitely a way to try preventing the customer from getting a refund.

[@Lem0n345q]

It’s literally common SENSE that the clothes should be the same as the doll 😭

[@Slipstitched_Magpie]

It’s also a thing where they can say they’re based in the US by having an “office” here but everything actually happens overseas(temu being a good example of that)

[@hynder]

I was actually planning on buying that Gale plush when I could get the money for it and I'm actually so glad I didn't work towards that yet now,,, I swear plushies have got to be one of the easiest ways to scam people because I almost fell for a fake manufacturer not too long ago as well (luckily checked provided addresses first).

[@pepperminttea4658]

It's good that you didn't! This video also helped inform me because I was planning on buying the dmc cats 😭 (I really love your Vash pfp btw❗️❗️)

[@littlemayo4028]

The way my friend has a doll in this EXACT doll style and it was a lil over $40 💀

[@BigBunBirdy]

14:56 “my eyes are up here” ahh plush😭😭

[@Coolartgueek]

LMAO

[@MaskedCommenter]

Proud to be the 69th like

[@hollowkore]

Omg i ordered something from that store and it was such an awful experience, the communication was absolutely horrible but i tried to be understanding because english isn’t their native language. However even after sending multiple images to try and clarify they still got it wrong multiple times and sent me a doll that was completely different from the listing it was the most frustrating buying experience in my life.

[@eliteunicorns]

Esty advertises as being a platform for handmade stuff, but as of recently I can only find stuff that is Ai, mass produced (some small businesses to have mass produced items, but I'm referring to shops where the owner isn't involved in the design/creation process whatsoever), or it's a drop shipper. I am very biased though, since I don't actually buy stuff on Etsy, but if I did...I'd have to do detective levels of research to know who I'm buying from.

[@rhys1264]

The AI is rampant and honestly disgusting, and Etsy doesn't give a crap and just lets it continue.

[@kckasem3360]

It's really sad, I used to buy things from Etsy at least once a month for years because I preferred to buy handmade products to things from mass produced places... everything was so nice! Now within the past two years it's almost all drop-shipping stuff and AI products, and it's so much harder to find the handmade stuff now. Also lots of artists have moved off Etsy because they take so many fees from the artists or will just randomly close down artists shops and not let them reopen them.

[@silvananivis9867]

Good luck buying digital sewing patterns these days that are actually draftes skillfully... Most listings have AI images with people poorly recreating the design, often not even being close to similar (different sleeves, flare, seams, waistline, etc.) It almost would be forgivable if the patterns are well-made but most are made quick-quick with little quality control. It leaves new sewers frustrated and thinking they're the incompetent ones 😔😔

[@strawberryroses]

I really want to shoutout Meizai’s corner who gave me a custom plushie of a character I loved complete with her outfit when i couldnt even sketch it out. Cumulatively all like $175 and when im comfortable financially again I’m coming back to her for another 20cm plushie. Really communicative and the absolute best

[@DarkxLink]

TLDR, both the buyer and seller didn't read. 😭

[@AliceGrayYT]

Yep. Boils down to poor communication but the buyer was the one to agree to the 20cm so the clothes are on them (30 is bigger than 20 and some people don't understand that.)

[@thegorehound3089]

to be honest when i saw this my first thought is that they are a chinese supplier with an etsy store pretending to be a small artist: would explain the language barrier and i swear they communicate in a way very typical of the overseas manus i talk with. ive made plushies with chinese suppliers before and spent $400 on a sample, but the actual plushes were about $25 when put into actual production. a lot of work goes into that first while i still think theyre in the wrong, it also shows a miscommunication of expectations on the buyers v sellers side: these factories get metric tons of orders and one order of one plush is not prioritised. this person came in thinking they were talking to an independent artist (especially with that first message) and not a factory with thousands and thousands of items being made a day. for example, the blue eyes are probably just a consequence of the designer pumping out many designs a day and not having time to research the character. for this type of doll a manufacturer would probably not like taking a photo of a person, and would rather art they can reference off of. obviously they should have changed it after it was pointed out though.

[@PriVerAnimation]

Something similar happened to me but it was with our wedding invitations. The shop stated being in the US; mid-production a lot of strange delays happened and I figured out the invites were being made in Turkey. So the "designer" I hired wasn't even supervising anything - a big problem for something as delicate as custom paper invitations! Consequently, a lot of prints were wrong, messy, we even had to pay for customs (!!) but I'm confident the shop lost money remaking everything until it met the promised quality. Lucky for them, we did get a lot of compliments with our final custom invitations

[@beeskneeslol]

oh hey creu guy

[@Cielinabox]

10:15 this reminds me of when an Etsy seller said they didn’t have the size of ring I ordered and told me they’d be happy to send me a size down. Like ok let me shrink my finger one sec 💀

[@intenseartage]

7:10 I have to jump in as an Etsy seller! 😭🙏 The shipping and Star Seller guidelines can be a nightmare. Etsy requires tracking numbers for all physical products, which is tricky for custom items or those shipped as letters. I run a sticker shop and sometimes get big orders, but with a 3-day processing time, I have to provide a tracking number by then, or Etsy flags me. The tracking for letters is useless, though-it just starts a timer that falsely says it’s delivered after three days, confusing customers who think their package has arrived when it hasn’t. 😭

[@pixel-7388]

I’m gonna go off on a limb and say that this is probably a drop shipper. I have seen many like this for anime styled fursuits as well. They are likely using multiple manufacturers rather than this being the work of a single company, and I say this because I have manufactured dolls like this and know the process for making prototypes. For starters 400$ is wayyyy overpriced. Mine were 90$ for a 15cm sized doll prototype. They are upping the priced and selling other companies work through Etsy and taking the extra cash.

[@pixel-7388]

Also! “10$ per piece” is not actually inaccurate That is about the price of a doll without clothes if you buy 100 of them

[@Tonithealtwing]

Mass produced kigurumi fursuits piss me off SO BAD. I understand younger furries wanting something cheap and affordable, but buy a dino mask or a mouth movers. Not Etsy scam suits 😭

[@pixel-7388]

@@Tonithealtwing unfortunately the ones I’ve seen weren’t even mass produced, the seller was relisting work made by independent fursuit creators in Asia and upping the price nearly 90% the original price (ex: 300$ head being sold for 1500$ usd) very very scummy

[@jessicabluanythingnerdy]

I'm making a 30" custom crochet doll. It's taken me almost a month and I'm not done yet. I have been in contact with the customer through the whole process, sending pictures and getting feedback as I'm making it. Communication with customers is very important

[@simpletic]

this isnt hand made, it is a manufacturing company from china that charge 8$ to make and over price it

[@CalebWolf]

Hugely incorrect...Each manufacture varies depending on order size. On top of huge shipping costs, they charge about $80-200 (depending on manufactures) just for ONE sample. Most of this money is going straight to the manufacture, the designer is more likely to reason like...very little; depending on how they charge the client.

[@CalebWolf]

It will only get worse in terms of cost when Trump's Tariffs happen.

[@colorido-medio]

I as a Designer would be ashamed even asking a customer to acept a product that isn't perfect.

[@shaylav.8521]

@@colorido-medio it’s like the temu version of the Etsy shop 😂

[@colorido-medio]

@@shaylav.8521 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@meredithweston46399]

(This is NOT in defense of the shop, only defense of the work that it takes real artists to make custom physical one-off items like this) If it was handmade by an individual plush artist, I don't think the price is excessive, but of course that is my HCOL western country pov. If you have ever made one-off plushies of this level of finish (e.g. not mass produced), you know it takes a lot of time, physical labor, and materials. Custom embroidery has to be designed, digitized, and tested for each individual customer. But, yes, due to the "low" price and that these shops tend to have multiple types of items (eg plushies and clay figures), my suspicion is that these shops also outsource. It would be nice if that was communicated up front so people know what they're getting.

[@yopi_yopi]

Thank you 💜 True handmade plush work implies hours and hours of hardwork 😊

[@The.Viewer]

Omg Engineer Mark my beloved....

[@The.Viewer]

God I wish ppl knew more on Markipliers egos they're awesome

[@KoiKlutz]

⁠@@The.Viewerso true 🙏🏽 ppl need to stop sleeping on his egos

[@LukenYo]

​@@The.Vieweromg should I start watching? I only watch like 3 minutes of his videos in his whole life accidentally tbh 😭 but is it good? Bc if yes I might start watching

[@sogigi]

@@LukenYoyesss mark is so peak

[@JaliceTheShort]

​@@LukenYo It's beyond peak, it's worth the watch

[@mayzydayz611]

I had actually been thinking of buying from this store, and I'm not active on twitter so I wouldn't have seen this thread. Thanks for highlighting this!

[@tearydrops123]

I think Elsie thought that they made the wrong DOLL that was 20cm instead of just the clothes.

[@P4trickSt4rmie]

Getting a custom plush of a KZbinr is crazy to be in general 😂

[@ShyBiiteVT]

Dealt with this same thing years ago, except it was on Instagram and with a wrestling championship belt. Never got the belt.

[@fruitcakeboi4197]

The fact that you can find VERY similar dolls on Temu for 20

[@HeadsetShiba]

There was a comment from someone who linked a website that you can make plushies exactly like that from china and it is actually very cheap but it takes many months to a year to receive the plush

[@indigonerd]

It's so sad that buyers can't trust Etsy for handmade items anymore. I bought a Noibat (Pokemon) plush off Etsy a few months ago, super excited to add another handmade plush to my collection, only to find out after I bought it and received it that the seller is known for stealing designs/patterns and the Noibat plush I bought is a lesser-quality ripoff of another artist. I was so disappointed. It's really turned me off of Etsy.

[@draconicfeline6177]

You really have to shift through the crap... It's been infected beyond repair.

[@AliceGrayYT]

Etsy and Amazon want money so they literally let anyone sell on there now.

[@FERARecords]

It looks like the plushies arent made by them either, I recognize the style from a custom shop called VOGRACE, I've bought from them many times. They make custom plushies for 20-15 dollars.

[@FERARecords]

not 100% sure though.

[@WolfyAj-sx8sn]

@@FERARecords i also recognized the style from vograce i beleve they may outsorce threw them but that also means they are def scamming bc that plush dose not cost that much to make and isnt made by them but insted by vograce

[@brielabellie]

my main reason why i’ll never pay for anything custom let alone any kind of commission, is bc id most likely end up forgetting i even made the purchase to begin with my memory is my own enemy 😭😭

[@mrdrprofseth]

Every single order came with several excuses like the seamstress hurt her hand or oops we messed up the order. It’s definitely just covering for shipping time from another country.

[@Dustbunn13]

PLUSHIE DRAMA WOA😭😭

[@sseuregi147]

im shooketh

[@RokiKatsuma]

As PERSON WHO ALSO WENT THRU THIS HELL, I AM FINALLY GETTING MY REFUND!! It took MONTHS to even get an update.

[@BMarie774]

$400 for a plushie is WILD.

[@marrowkurokozimoz.nightlor7919]

More like $450.00 is how much I paid for my fursona to be done and he a chibi plush too... Took me 4 months to save up just to have him as a custom plush..

[@pattikakes_zeph]

@@marrowkurokozimoz.nightlor7919 Did it at least turn out good?

[@Marrymochi]

oof, this is why i just make costume merch myself if the charater dont got any, yes it may not look the best but at least not alot of money was spent.

[@tekioshark]

Bro, I fr was going to order from them when I found a better alternative on Alibaba. Dodged a bullet. Edit for grammar. Good job at the video.

[@Eiol01]

Whats the shop name? Or listing or anything to find it? I really want to get a plush of my oc but everything I find is a scam, way overpriced or its for slots? And always sold out 😭

[@hylianevalink]

@@Eiol01 I would recommend IDoodle Studios ! 120$ for a custom plush and I've heard great things about them

[@goodnightgoodnightgoodnight]

PSA the majority of shops like this on etsy dont make the plushies themselves, they forward the designs to a plushie making manufacturer in china and charge you at least twice what they're charging. you're technically already getting scammed.

[@scarletpogonowski]

I recently bought a headband for my Quest 2 on Ebay, and at first they gave me a fake tracking number and didn't respond for a week and only after I had started a case. The headband arrived and it was from Amazon XD

[@miasonic1389]

0:59 my dumbness thought That’s Roblox

[@alicetruong420]

I realized that this salesman was a middleman, and aka the person who ordered for the buyer (because plush needed the designer and maker). Usually the middleman will not take the profit, but this person seems to take quite a lot. The clothes look the right size but not the right body type

[@s3asalt1cecream]

I commissioned a seller (not the one from this video) on Etsy for a plushie because my friend ordered from them and said they were good. The plushie never even shipped out and the seller stopped responding to my messages. It's been over a year now, and other people in the shop's reviews had similar issues. Idk if the seller in my case was a scammer who occasionally did some actual work (bc my friend got their plushie just fine), but like. Idk man, this kind of shit sucks.

[@AliceGrayYT]

What if they died. 👀

[@Pillowie]

Etsy has an issue with drop shippers a TON and while I'm not saying there aren't legitimate sellers, quality has definitely went down since Etsy first launched. It's obvious that the seller was outsourcing their "custom" product, which sucks since she paid nearly $400 for something that looks like a standard plushie imo.

[@wand3ringidi0t]

I have seen this exact style of custom plush and would not be surprised if they outsourced

[@yukilu602]

Gaopeng toy being mentioned... they also lowkey scammed me the same way g4mlitz scammed elsie. They charged me $500 for a custom plushie that I had requested to be 20cm, but instead made her way bigger than what I asked for and I asked them why they would do that because now I cant dress my own doll with any other clothes becausee no other premade costume fits the size my plush is at. and they said it was the only way??? which ticked me off cos it made no sense and the lang barrier didnt help as well and it was already annoying to ask for so many revisions. so anyone watching this video, please do not comm Gaopeng toy. Im so upset I lost so much of my money for something that cant even be used, alot of these chinese manufacturing stores forcustom plushies seem to be realllly hit or miss.

[@vaelia1203]

Honestly I don't blame them for not understanding when they got asked if they were ok with 20cm clothes. The way it was formulated when asked was misleading, if the plushie is 30cm ofc the clothes are going to be smaller since they don't cover the whole plushie so if you don't say straight up "clothes fit for a 20cm plushie" not everyone is going to understand it like that. They should've also precised that it meant that the clothes wouldn't fit because there's no way a customer who's only seen pictures of what you make can do the mental calculation of whether it will fit or not just like that without having seen it. Oh and speaking of having seen it, THEY SHOULD'VE SENT A PICTURE OF IT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THAT MEANT. So yeah I don't think the customer is in the wrong AT ALL on that point.

[@cheesecakesubs]

lot of people resell things from aliexpress to etsy too, especially things like teasets

[@Greendawn-di3dl]

No one wants to bring up how fucking creepy it is to commission a doll of someone you clearly have a parasocial relationship; and the clothes come off.

[@kharmachaos667]

First of all, "engineer mark" is a character he plays in one of his shows. Second of all, in this case, no that's just you. Dolls have clothes. You often want to take off the clothes.... to wash them. Seperately. Don't project your own creepiness on other people.

[@Greendawn-di3dl]

@ engineer mark is also. Just markiplier. Don't try to justify your fetishes to me creep.

[@Greendawn-di3dl]

@@kharmachaos667 engineer mark is just mark with extra steps.

[@elliot_rat]

being paid $400 yet won't make a tiny little hat

[@SukunaYaoi]

I love omodoki dolls Im actually glad u made this video so we know which makers to not buy from, super sketchy for real

[@Internet_Explorer-x1y]

1:49 cutely edits out laugh❤️

[@nightmare2272]

this is why meizai etsy plush store is goat

[@Toa_general]

Sobbing staring at their store and I straight away saw Vograce’s plushies, Vograce is a merch manufacturer that is EXTREMELY popular, I can’t see their style from a mile away

[@jandoel]

Thank you, your plush sketch was absolutely necessary to share with the world 😆

[@Nerd-hq9vw]

14:31 THAT'S A MASSIVE... drape.

[@mor1nor1123]

the sketch of the plush looks like mr beast lol

[@akabaneaki]

Its very obvious the person is just earning middle man money now after seeing it done like that. I strongly suggest loverplier to just look elsewhere to get custom cloths for the doll. Least the eyes is changed to the right color and the doll itself looks fine :) EVEN if they had not missed the communication part where they ok-ed the 20cm doll cloths for the doll, when they got it, at the end of the day it would have not fit as well. Cus as u can see at the end when the seller shipped a clothing they say "is" 30cm doll's doll, it came out as a 20cm doll cloths and did not fit AGAIN. So either way, loverplier would have gotten a wrong sized to begin with. So the fact that they "ok-ed a 20cm doll cloths" in my eyes does not matter cus it would have been wrong anyways since the first shipment.

[@Judgeangels]

I've seen people on tiktok who have plushies like these who got them off amazon

[@Ecliptic-P]

I did NOT expect you here what

[@Judgeangels]

@Ecliptic-P oh no

[@X1Daring2]

Dang plushie drama?! Not the plushies too nooooo 😭

[@GaryCandyPrince]

Reminds me of the time I spent like 200 dollars on a custom plush just for the hair color to be completely wrong and for the hair to look weird. (I literally waited almost a year for this plush)

[@cannimh]

I couldn't imagine paying a half of my run on a doll

[@iosketches]

totally a manufacturer, im from italy and here at comicons you see that EXACT style of plushie for almost every character (especially anime or videogames like zelda), they are cute but EVERY store seems to have them, not artist from artist alley

[@kmon8133]

If the plushie had any self control, it wouldn't have gotten too big for its clothes >.>

[@itzuna2311]

Fiverr is a good platform for custom stuff too! I made for example two dolls there with were extreamly good

[@kaijufriend]

wow i didn't even think to look here but there's a lot of options, thank you for sharing this!

[@itzuna2311]

@@kaijufriend It even has an APROVE Option. Which means you need to aprove an Order so they get the money. Its like this: You pay for an order, the money gets stored on the website (the seller dont get the money yet), than you wait for updates and the finshed order you can look at it and aprove the order if not you can ask for revision (If they dont offer revisions they normally ask in the making prosses a lot of questions) and at least when you aprove it, you get the product you wanted and they get their money. You can also decline and get the whole money back.

[@baaaastoos]

fiverr is exploitative

[@itzuna2311]

@@baaaastoos Why that?

[@CalebWolf]

@@itzuna2311 This I will agree with the other guy on, I have worked on FIVERR as a freelancer and the amount of hours I did is so stupid for little pay. On top of worry if some kid used card and report the transaction as fraud with their bank (FIVERR then giving US the fee), there is no buffer with little time to complete everything in a timely manner.

[@Sknotty]

Damn, I actually bought a plushie from this store back in May and i received it in late August/early September. It cost around the same price. I agree that the communication isn't great when it comes to updates and such. But i did end up with properly fitting clothes and a cute custom doll of my oc. This seems like a big communication issue due to a language barrier and/or miscommunication on both parties. I am sad to learn that my doll wasnt handmade as i thought it was. Not much i can do about it now, though. The doll is in my hands and it was made as i requested. I probably wont go back to them in the future, thats for sure.

[@Sknotty]

For those curious, I left a review on their shop under the username "Mei". I attached photos there if you want to see the finished product

[@baaaastoos]

the dolls are handmade are tou kidding me. no way a machine can make an omodoki style doll. just mass produced and dirt cheap to make …

[@CalebWolf]

@@baaaastoos Not cheap at all...a lot cheaper when ordering in bulk, but individual is going to cost a lot. From working with manufactures, it causes a huge headache in figuring out the costs of everything down to designing, shipping, and ordering custom made items. It's far from cheap.

[@LukenYo]

10:42 sorry but that would NEVER fit a 20 cm doll. If the dolls are the same thickness of body (same ratio from body to head) then a doll that could wear this outfit would be MAXIMUM 12 cm.

[@Artephobic]

Yeah, also their 30cm looks very big and chunky, I have a colletion of these types of dolls

[@AliceGrayYT]

​@@Artephobic20cm is honestly the best size. Learned my lesson when I got a 30cm and it was hard to buy for and looked off.

[@PaperPlane675]

I’d literally love to learn how to make plushies solely to sell them at affordable prices and just be kind to customers, make a quick buck for fun and spread creativity, getting commissioned.. cause this is beyond insane

[@L0rdOfThePies]

This doll style is kinda common , i would not be surprised if it is an outsourced cheap template

[@mayowhishes]

11:49 they are likely BOTH overseas manufacturers.. the way the seller talks is not native english. there are fursuit makers that outsource their makers too and arent entirely clear on it unless you've been following long enough to notice. I generally recommend following an artist for a while before chosing to commission them to make sure youre seeing others receive product ;p

[@mayowhishes]

like it's a common thing for a few asain craftsmin to group up with one english speaking manager to sell their products and manage the orders. This causes miscommunications often 😅 it's just part of buying things from people that speak a different language

[@thefiletypeiswrong7212]

A lot of custom stores set orders as sent when it’s not , but usually this practice is for preorders of people doing a pay for production model. It makes no sense for this instance as this isn’t an item meant to be produced at mass

[@Ac3_Silvers]

Thanks for this I’m gonna link this on the subreddit I run for this kind of plush. They’re called cotton dolls, usually used for fan merch for idols and anime/game characters but there’s a ton of “non atribute” aka non licensed ones too. 4:36 edit for more context: standard size is 20cm. This is very clearly an outsourcing thing from what I’m hearing/seeing.

[@falmarindecarme6469]

the whiplash you experience when a tweet of yours pops up in a video xD

[@pbg624]

I don’t want to fault her but the moment she started seeing red flags she should’ve reported them as a scam

[@TheNotsorealGetosuguru]

Theres no fucking way doll clothes are that expensive

[@GhoulishTeatime]

I have custom plushies! My favorite is my custom bannete ( pokemon) most pokemon plushes are small. But i wanted one that was around build a bear size that i could REALLY snuggle( bannetes my favorite) And as someone who sews and drafts patterns id say its medium complexity. Definietly some difficult shapes I also have a custom ZIM plushie ( invader zim) he was more expensive than my bannete. But still nothing that crazy And i even had the ZIM one shipped from another country AND HE CAME FROM A ETSY SELLER so i know they arent all scams Also both my plushes are MUCH bigger than these like 15 inches Build a bear size And even with such a big custom plush it was nowhere near 400 dollars

[@yopi_yopi]

Plush maker here, the price, in spite of how expensive it might sound, is very typical of a full custom plush work. This shop is definitely a scam (falsely advertised). A plush artist knows what they're doing, can make edits and shows wips when updating customers. At least that should be part of the commission work you're taking. Small tip to avoid scams: most of us have social medias! Research if the maker shows WIPS online or the process, has an online presence etc. (Smaller, less detailed work can cost way less by the way 🙂)

[@Zoopop13]

they remind me of YooTooz or however you spell them. thats what the design looks like

[@jesseerven4859]

yuppers out scouring happens on etsy a lot also sweat shop fronts with people pretending to be home makers is common place and reselling cheaper less known makers stuff happens a lot

[@venuzss]

never in my life i've heard about $400 for a plushie, the overprice is crazy

[@mimizzzeepy]

IT DOESNT EVEN LOOK LIKE MARK

[@Tonithealtwing]

I thought I recognized this style, my friend got two custom plushes from this seller and had minor issues but overall a positive experience - the main complaint I think they had was the clothes. However, it feels like this is a company who fucks over some customers, but makes some happy to keep up their image. Also, as an Etsy shopper, the ONLY time I’ve ever received a tracking number before an order was completed was in a situation where life stuff got in the way on my end, and they printed the label before I was able to respond with commission details. Etsy will penalize sellers for not shipping on time, but you generally should not give out fake tracking numbers. Just set your turn around time far in advance. My situation was an instance of me fucking the seller over on accident 😭 (But I got my commission and they got their money, it worked out)

[@r1nkaku958]

Yeah its really obvious they didnt make it themselves since there are sooo many dolls like that on sites like aliexpress and taobao I dont quite understand how she was confused when they told her the dolls clothes were the wrong size and she said it was fine but yeah still a scammy seller.

[@Ari_love_14]

What I’m thinking about the reviews is that they are Probably bots saying the plush’s are good but they aren’t

[@WendyNoire]

I bought from them and they apologised for it taking longer because "the embroidery is taking longer than I expected" literally nothing was embroidery. Everything was glued on and was honestly really cheap quality for what I got. I left a good review because technically it matched the image, but idk. I ended up replacing it. What people are saying with them using a false tracking number to say it was shipped WAY before it was finished is ABSOLUTELY what happened to me too. Like, mine wasn't even custom and I wouldn't have minded as much if they didn't use embroidery because it didn't have it in the image, but it felt weird they used that as an excuse when it wasn't

[@catsareexcellent]

This is why I will never commission anything no matter how cool I think the product might be.