Phil, if you are in an abusive, on-again, off-again relationship with any Magic: the Gathering format, blink twice. We'll get you out of there.
@ThrabenUniversity8 ай бұрын
XD
@markp72628 ай бұрын
No no, he's supposed to call and order a pizza.
@graefx8 ай бұрын
Phil will look up and shout save me and we'll whisper "Play Winota"
@superluckyhappylife23588 ай бұрын
Or do the 👍🤚✊️
@Nitrox_Costa_8 ай бұрын
Pauper content is back! Love it!❤ Prismatic strands is a concession to mono red, that even if less powerful is still very much a thing in pauper. Omen lets you loop kor skyfishers in grindy matchups, depending on the meta it’s either maindeck singleton or sideboard. Dispute is also a card for removal heavy matchups, Iike BG gardens, but there are surely versions of the deck that don’t run it. Hope it helps a bit 😊
@simonisphording8 ай бұрын
at 25:04, playing the glint hawk + tithing blade first lets you play around counterspell since cast down can still target the mystic if the blade gets countered
@simonisphording8 ай бұрын
Ah you noticed it a little while later :) murmuring mystic is a house when left unanswered
@Martian_Manhunter8 ай бұрын
You saw the ideal Poison "Storm" gameplay in round two. It's a pretty fringe deck. I'm honestly surprised you saw it in your first league back, but Kalikaiz did just drop a new Poison Storm video post ban, so that could be why. I personally haven't enjoyed the deck any time I've played it and found that it often fell flat and/or wasn't fast enough even at its best for what I wanted. Keep your head up and don't let that match weigh too heavily on your evaluation of the format. I'm so glad to see you're trying Pauper again!
@WilhelmScreamer8 ай бұрын
It looks sweet, I want to try it
@leftysheppey8 ай бұрын
The poison storm deck reminds me of boggles. You just kind of do your thing the same sort of way every game. I imagine it's awful on MTGO too, having to click all them permanents multiple times a turn
@usagi29888 ай бұрын
Love the intro! And I do love seeing Pauper content but I also completely agree with how un-fun the format is (particularly from a purely "competitive" perspective like we usually see on MTGO).
@hopeforthebestx8 ай бұрын
Always love the intro skits. Thanks for all your awesome content Phil!
@72182348 ай бұрын
ok, that was one of your best intros in a while.
@Tommino-ez8ww8 ай бұрын
as a long time BW player, I can tell you that omen of the dead is a huge card against all removal based decks (which you only found in the first match), cause your skifishers are basically immortals. The rest of your analysis of the deck is really agreeable, despite your soft knowledge of the format, and even the play choices were quite perfect. Thanks for all and congratulations. If you want to appreciate the power of deadly dispute at the highest level, you should try BG gardens or the "old" grixis affinity :)
@TheBoatis8 ай бұрын
I didn't click the video the first time I saw it because I didn't notice it was a ThrabenU upload. Haven't played in months, but this makes me want to try my abzan food gates list again!
@Alikaoz8 ай бұрын
Tbh, pauper is the one format I can say I've tried, have a deck for, yet hate and can only feel it getting worse for me. Most of the time it looks like the format is aimed towards just durdling with a lot of powerful support with nothing game-winning to support. BUT! I'll still love your analysis so I'll watch and see how it is now. Also, have some engagemenr
@neros_soren8 ай бұрын
Well, it's oldschool MTG, what do you expect? To quote someone: "It's a format of Vintage answers to Draft threads." Because of it, it's a grindy format, because you win by forcing smaller advantages over the whole game. Which also means, more smaller decisions will either win or lose you the games, which in turn makes Pauper very interesting to play, if you love making decisions. Like I said, Pauper is more akin to the old school days of MTG, but without the "creatures are useless" clause.
@Zauzzie8 ай бұрын
I feel the same, the games are slogfests and every time I find a fast deck in the formate to play they end up banning a card out of it. An hour per match is rough.
@llamarama69768 ай бұрын
Phil has become the tf2 engineer. He has done nothing but teleport bread for weeks
@Kaisingsens8 ай бұрын
always happy to see some Pauper or Vintage love on the channel!
@MotorcycleYeti8 ай бұрын
In round 5, you can deadly dispute your bounce creatures and then put them back in your hand with omen of the dead.
@olafthemoose94138 ай бұрын
Man some of these intros lately have been so fking good.
@Svergara18 ай бұрын
Love the pauper content! Always love new brews that have an open mind and a clear heart LOL
@jamesbeck10168 ай бұрын
Glad to see more pauper content hopefully the format will be playable again post swiftspear banning its one of my favorites.
@TalenLee8 ай бұрын
Commenting before I'm done but this was really neat. I find myself wondering about how good the draining half of the tithing blade is, as a way of having reach and inevitability.
@awesomesauce_35168 ай бұрын
I'd love to start seeing some more pauper content from you!
@bricknolty54788 ай бұрын
30:50 LOL I was so confused the first time I saw Pauper Proliferate, but it's such a cool deck!
@killpioo28 ай бұрын
Actually you can tap maestro's theater before you sack it if you have an urborg out. And if you have an amulet of vigor like effect tap the new land for a cool 2 mana from 1 land
@ThrabenUniversity8 ай бұрын
Sure, but this is Pauper XD
@johnmichaelbushman8 ай бұрын
BW Design Mistakes (TM) needs to be the name of this deck moving forward.
@arsteel23888 ай бұрын
The proliferate deck is a "real" deck but it's awful against aggro. With Swiftspear banned, people are trying it out again. It's specifically meant to beat up on slower control or tempo decks.
@ThrabenUniversity8 ай бұрын
That makes sense to me!
@markp72628 ай бұрын
I love the proliferate deck, but hate poison. I'm thinking of building it a different way. I'll have to see what I come up with.
@thejesteramongfools8 ай бұрын
@@markp7262 might want to look at a proliferate +1/+1 style deck with cards like the Kenku that makes a land a 0/0 with 3 +1/+1s usually on an indestructible land. When you add in cards like Arctic Merfolk to bounce your kenku and Tuskguard Captain to give trample, unexpected fangs for lifelink, Stealth Mission to be unblockable, Iron Apprentice to move counters if it dies. The proliferate gets out of hand quick with those Plus if you are going back to creatures you can use thrumming bird. There is a deck out there A year ago pre-MoM Pauperganda played a +1/+1 proliferate deck I think it could use a few of the new cards for sure. There is a deck in all this mess for sure.
@bricknolty54788 ай бұрын
I'm really impressed with how much play this deck has against Ux Terror decks! WB midrange is back on the menu!
@CheeseWedge0568 ай бұрын
Pauper always shocks me because the decks that are really good at grinding are often times not blue decks.
@Deoxippus8 ай бұрын
Great content as always. I love pauper, sort of... The lower power level of individual cards + large card pool makes for decks that depend more on synergies. It would be nice if it wasn't so much of the same permanent-with-etb-thing + dispute/bounce, but still less boring than "just play the good cards" to me. Also really wish they didn't ban everything remotely combo-like as soon as it gets any metagame share whatsoever. Happy to see you running it, and hope to see more in the future.
@drpibisback76808 ай бұрын
The problem with not aggressively banning combo in Pauper is that it just doesn't have the high-impact, non-removal disruption other formats have. There's no Thoughtseize, no Force of Will or Negation, it's very hard to actually deal with decks that play entirely on the stack - especially when the format has a lot of Legacy-quality mana acceleration. When Storm happens in Pauper, it's often capable of winning on turn 2 with a frightening degree of consistency.
@Deoxippus8 ай бұрын
@noesunyoutuber7680 if storm was an issue, fine, but they have been banning combos since 2016. Still don't see why drake had to go.
@CharlotteMimic8 ай бұрын
20:20 when you drew this Deadly Dispute is when I fell in love with this deck. Sacrifice the Treasure from the Undercity to draw 2 cards? That sounds like my kind of Magic.
@nielsholm20208 ай бұрын
best phil intro so far!!!
@LizaPlz8 ай бұрын
YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN I SAW TITHING BLADE TOO AND PEOPLE CALLED ME CRAZY
@blakeprivette59158 ай бұрын
Played this last weekend at my shops weekly Sunday pauper event, went 3-1 beating BG gardens, caw gates, and moggwarts. Ironically only loss was to swiftless red, due to some unfortunate draws on my end and fortunate ones on theirs. Deck is definitely sweet!
@fel_958 ай бұрын
Yayyy Pauper!
@jamiebuzick49118 ай бұрын
Great Pauper gameplay!
@bcocquyt8 ай бұрын
Always here for the pauper games.
@xxthevampirate8 ай бұрын
in M3g2 when you were thinking about saccing a dagger or flyer to deadly dispute. I think just holding it for a chump blocker is the play. It worked out but it's the line i would have taken
@paxtonjk8 ай бұрын
round 4 saying that you dont think deadly dispute should be in the deck and then it immediately saving you is hilarious
@diegojimeneztamame16468 ай бұрын
Praise Keranos!!! Gallagher's back on the Format of the People!!! Common Magicians of the world, Unite!!!
@gabrote428 ай бұрын
15:51 Yu-Gi-Oh moment 23:50 technically you could craft the blade for bonus Sepulchritude, but you navigated this beautifully
@swampybwoy8 ай бұрын
Would love to see more pauper content from you
@alexrodriguez-jf9rp8 ай бұрын
"i feel like all i do is play bread" -phil 2023
@craigrgriffin8 ай бұрын
That intro 🔥
@benlittle55438 ай бұрын
Pauper value!!!!!!!!! I love the grind-fest this deck probides
@evanmasterson79568 ай бұрын
Love to see Pauper again
@aaronhooper48038 ай бұрын
one Omen is kind of the go-to for Skyfisher players because of the loop(pseudo-infinite blockers), it's probably fine since it's okay even in a fair way though. I've been a little off Prismatic strands myself lately, but the red decks are still real, just not quite as prevalent since it's harder to find a good turn one play for them now. Furnace into Hasty Goblin Pirate is still their strongest opener
@ajax47098 ай бұрын
“Free? Oh I wouldn’t say freed. I’d say under new management”
@Locustnism8 ай бұрын
You were previously not pleased with the meta. Are you happier now and will we expect more pauper videos?
@superpepo988 ай бұрын
We want more pauper!
@freya002YT8 ай бұрын
pauper ❤
@Eisenwulf6668 ай бұрын
Pauper!!!
@Luiginicon8 ай бұрын
Welcome back!
@justass30018 ай бұрын
I feel like with combo decks so bad/inconsistent in pauper i kinda like having atleast one semi-good combo deck in the proliferate poison deck
@justass30018 ай бұрын
i might be biased tho, as i love playing bad combo decks in pauper
@ThrabenUniversity8 ай бұрын
From a metagame health standpoint, I think this is a good thing. Pauper doesn't have great tools to fight combo, and when a combo deck is too good, a ban is usually required (e.g. Chatterstorm).
@neros_soren8 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity Sure, but Poison Storm doesn't really see play, and as you mentioned yourself...it's slow as molasses. It gets folded into a paper crane by Affinity and Mono-Red, because so many cards have to be Poison/Proliferate to make it even close to..."consistent". The deck generally only plays 8 Poison cards. If they are unlucky and do not find any of those within the first 2 draws, they generally even die to the slow Midrange decks. I am just surprised that you even faced one to begin with. xD
@graefx8 ай бұрын
"This ancient ass card" i nearly spat out my drink. I have a love hate relationship with pauper. It looks like magic as richard garfield intended. But it gets so snowball-y or grindy that it gives me pause. The swiftspear ban really highlighted that meta. 80% game 1 win rate, 20-30 games 2, 3. Giant board states as everyone just pokes each other. The threats arent huge, counters are limited, theres a lot thst feels like youre dragging yourself to the finish line. But also sub $100 competitive eternal decks. Tempting. I do like the longer games, i still think of the old days when a 6 or 7 drop was kinda common as a wincon. But the early game was a lot more plodding.
@swampybwoy8 ай бұрын
Pauper is the best constructed format and always has been, change my mind
@unicorndogg8 ай бұрын
Try name-sticker goblin burn combo if the grindy gameplay isn't your jam. Love your legacy videos, but would be in hog heaven if you made a pauper video here and there. :-)
@mpl93118 ай бұрын
yes please more pauper
@cheeserocksreviews8 ай бұрын
Yay Pauper content!!!
@rebelresource8 ай бұрын
Pauper is the best format and you all know it. WotC is even pushing it!
@Cevdem8 ай бұрын
As the proliferate player you faced. It's real, but is it good? I would say it's just an average deck honestly. It preys on the free wins from mid-range and control decks that's the reason to play it. As you mentioned there's just no meaningful interaction. However, it really struggles with aggro. My mono blue win rate is like 10% or something terrible. Cheers my guy! Keep up the content!
@ThrabenUniversity8 ай бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate that perspective!
@bricknolty54788 ай бұрын
10:30 Could've Glint Hawked to cast Tithing Blade twice and clear the Serpent
@unicorndogg8 ай бұрын
Yay Pauper!
@naphackDT8 ай бұрын
Why is tithing blade so hard to pronounce? Tiding blathe?
@BIueharvest8 ай бұрын
Id rather play againt proliferate infect than jeskai ephemerate.
@MrToddyPorco8 ай бұрын
Great vid. I think at 1:21:20 you could've Glint, Blade, Dispute the Glint Hawk, get back with omen and Glint Blade again. But luck was at your side that turn.
@goodshipzion8 ай бұрын
Omen + Skyfisher
@davispo75508 ай бұрын
Snuff out as a better option vs affinity instead of strands?
@TheCubicalGuy8 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity, is there a reason to play obscura storefront over scoured barrens? The only benefit I can think of is that it's better returned to hand since you can replay it untapped, but I can't imagine that matters frequently.
@mitchrdawson8 ай бұрын
Personal opinion, combined deck thinning and mana fixing. It satisfies lifegain primarily through lembas.
@tylermfdurdenАй бұрын
Caw-blade?
@basoon878 ай бұрын
Match 2, game 2, I feel like you punted a bit by not waiting for a second artifact for Dust to Dust. Probably a lack of metagame knowledge, but they were very likely to try and get out at least 2 artifacts that benefit from proliferate. If you had just played bread that turn, you'd have gotten Prism and Chalice on your next turn, and still had your Relic to nerf his Deep Analysis
@neros_soren8 ай бұрын
Then again, if they don't have a 2nd one, or just refuse to play one because....well...white generally plays D2D sideboard, D2D is just rotting in your hand and they still have the mana acceleration, which just ruins you either way against a combo deck.
@basoon878 ай бұрын
@@neros_soren Even if they do try to play around it, you can still play it next turn, targeting bread instead of relic, and keep mana up for relic the whole time. And I'm not sure they try to play around it.
@neros_soren8 ай бұрын
@@basoon87 Okay, and why would you exile Lembas over Relic? A close to dead card against Poison Storm. Not to mention that he would have had one mana open on that turn, so the play not only slowed the Poison Storm deck down, but it was also the most mana efficient play, allowing him to se 4 cards the next turn, or play even better cards if he would've drawn actual threads. Your play gives about 0 outs, because you are not trying to go under a very slow deck, that wins eventually by Poison.
@basoon878 ай бұрын
@@neros_soren Because after you play the bread it literally does nothing for you in this match up except get bounced and played again and he had 2 breads in hand at the time, so the one in play is literally superfluous? And because you can both use the Relic to nerf his yard (he knows the opponent plays Deep Analysis), and use it to draw another card. The bread replaces itself immediately, so a D2D targeting prism and bread just ends up being a 1 for 1, rather than 2 for 1ing yourself when you target the Prism and the Relic. Edit: and how does the play he took leave more outs? How does this play make it more likely to "go under" this deck? He's not increasing the clock that turn. He just mildly disrupts the opponent. I'm saying he'd be better off waiting for a juicier D2D to disrupt him a lot more on a later turn, and if the guy chooses plays around it, that just slows himself down while still giving Phil a better opportunity to D2D next turn (by targeting his own card that already replaced itself rather than the one that hasn't replaced itself yet, but still can).
@neros_soren8 ай бұрын
@@basoon87 Again, waiting one turn not only ruins your the mana at hand (4 mana, 3 used - go is TERRIBLE), but you also ignore that Lembas digs TWO cards, not just one. And sure, you can wipe a Deep Analysis, but does it really matter? Lowering the amount of mana on the Poison Storm side, also lowers the chance for a big Weather the Storm turn. Lol...your edit just shows your lack of understanding, which tells me "why bother". I still try to explain you: First of all, to go "under" a deck you need to play mana efficient, period. Or rather, more mana efficient than the deck you are trying to go under. Like I already explained, what if he does not have a 2nd artifact? What if he draws one 2 turns later? Or none at all? The play at hand disrupted the mana base already, cost 3 mana with several 2 mana plays in hand AND to draw into. And no, if the Poison Storm player plays around a D2D they do NOT lose much speed, because they are at a much higher mana value already. And to point it out again: Turn four 3 mana spell - PASS is TERRIBLE if you know you HAVE to be the beatdown. ESPECIALLY with only two 2 mana plays in hand.
@sagelwi098 ай бұрын
pauper!
@swampybwoy8 ай бұрын
Poison storm deck is ultra cool IMo and fun to play
@charleskozel8 ай бұрын
Maybe not fun to play against, but a storm-ish combo deck that you can actually attack them multiple turns through is kinda cool, I really like that infect deck.
@broodwarjc15178 ай бұрын
The poison proliferate deck makes me think they need to print some kind of anti-player counter card at common for pauper. It looked so degenerate.
@justass30018 ай бұрын
it loses to almost all aggresive decks, it just beats up slow control decks
@ThrabenUniversity8 ай бұрын
I think it probably dies to a fast aggro deck, but preys on a deck like this.
@eating_a_cookie8 ай бұрын
love the pauper content, hopefully it does better with viewers without swifty around
@unicorndogg8 ай бұрын
Walls combo! Play walls combo!!
@Syaska8 ай бұрын
Pauper, the format i can afford but have no interest in playing.
@SporePunch8 ай бұрын
Ugh, poison counter proliferate being a deck makes me really not want to play Pauper. I fucking hate playing against non interactive decks like that. I hold a similar position against mill. It's just not fun or interesting to play or play against.
@SporePunch8 ай бұрын
Round 1 I was like wow this was really cool interactive gameplay with impactful decision making, Pauper is good again! Round 2, nevermind I have no interest in touching this format.
@homerjs908 ай бұрын
impossible to enjoy this format
@laurelkeeper8 ай бұрын
Incorrect. Moreover, deterministically false, as I am enjoying it and it looks like Phil is too!
@homerjs908 ай бұрын
@@laurelkeeper correct! as suppose. is impossible for me to enjoy this format
@laurelkeeper8 ай бұрын
@@homerjs90 I think that’s a defeatist mindset. I believe in you!
@neros_soren8 ай бұрын
@@homerjs90 The question then is: Why do you not enjoy it? Did you even check out what you could play? Pauper has a pretty massive selection of decks that can be played.
@homerjs908 ай бұрын
@@neros_soren played pauper for years. At some point I had something close to 10 decks...when MH1 happened...it was done for me