This printer has 1 BIG problem | Uniformation GKTwo review

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@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

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@calamitycal1 9 ай бұрын

I've had this printer for about a year now. I live where it can get below freezing and the printer is in a detached garage. Despite the freezing temps, when printing overnight, the printer almost never fails. And most of those fails are when I have to set up supports myself and I screw it up. Other than that, it's been perfect and an absolute joy to use. I also love that the printing plate doesn't submerge fully into the resin, so you never have to worry about resin on the top of the plate. It's a small thing, but it's great.

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

Agreed, best I’ve ever owned

@aesericho3651 4 ай бұрын

Four months later how is it doing? How many prints have you completed?

@calamitycal1 4 ай бұрын

@@aesericho3651 Tons. I have a full 5 shelf unit filled with painted prints of all shapes and sizes including two full armies for One Page Rules. I've had the printer for well over a year now and it still works great. Used it all winter with no problems, even overnight in VERY cold weather.

@Groundeffected 9 ай бұрын

Lol at the plane bringing the machine, your editing is a madness dude. So much work!

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

It makes me laugh at least, besides, I need the editing to distract from my personality! .. My thumbnail game is whack on this one though!

@GuyOwen-n7c 7 ай бұрын

I loved this review, too! Very heartfelt. Few people own up to their mistakes. Nicely done!

@RisingApe 7 ай бұрын

Cheers

@OnceinaSixSide 8 ай бұрын

Wonderful review. I don't think its unreasonable to expect to preheat the thing before you start printing - I do this with FDM machines all the time. I'll tell them to warm up the bed, and then I return to the computer and slice whatever I want to print, that way by the time I go to actually print the machine will be warmed up and ready to go.

@RisingApe 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, I am a bit of a Luddite with this stuff, so a lot of my mistakes are my own fault! That said it’s getting closer a print out of the box solution now

@willmuckel9131 8 ай бұрын

You heating the printer had me laughing. And thank you for teaching me about the delete all feature.

@RisingApe 8 ай бұрын

I know right, face palm 🤦‍♂️

@WhiteWulfe 9 ай бұрын

It's pricier compared to the competition, but they do definitely get a few key things right in my eyes.. First there's the obvious keeping resin at a decent temperature. No messing about with heating the vat with external things you may forget about. Second is the carbon filtration, which they've actually done a decent job on, especially compared to Elegoo's "we don't sell refills". Yes it's an extra cost to factor, but it also helps keep smells down. Third? The brilliant lid. Sooooooo many seem to assume we're fine with getting out lids messy over time and have some sort of way of dealing with it, or the room to lift it up. Then there's arguably one of my favourites - the fact the USB port AND POWER SWITCH are in the MOST important spot - the front. Glad to see a regular user's review of it, was a nice change of pace ^_^

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

Thanks, really appreciate this comment

@the_arcanum 8 ай бұрын

Actually, the extra cost to factor is the lower life expectancy you can expect from your LCD from being the one that is heating the resin in the vat. It just boils down to the original design of the printer by FormLabs (oh yeah, it's a lower-priced copycat of the 5,000$ FormLabs 3) : heating the resin from under where the screen and electronics reside instead of heating the chamber or better still directly heating a metal vat with resistive traces. Note that the cost of the screen doesn't matter much for pro customers but for enthusiasts, that can have significant impact. Don't misread me though, I think it's awesome that solutions designed in the pro sector finally make their way into the main consumer market. But hidden costs and braindead copying existing designs instead of innovating even on the consumer market should be what we are warned about.

@RisingApe 7 ай бұрын

I get what you are saying here but I think calling the machine a bread dead copy is harsh, the printer amalgamates lots of good features and adds several of its own too, like the plate for example the system is very different from form labs and is essentially an open source option which is a very good thing. and while I am very much a layman here the extra heat cannot make that much difference to the screen life? electronic components are usually designed to withstand high temps that that output by the heater? @@the_arcanum

@the_arcanum 7 ай бұрын

@@RisingApe High temp operation in such a small enclosure will affect the components. Why else do you have active fans in that part of the machine in every resin printer ? It's not immediate failure ofc but it does effect the parts. Some components fail in safer conditions, here they'll just have an augmented risk of failing. For 24/24 pro operation, it sure is going to happen but it's a small cost, for amateur printing with a lighter load, you may or may not stumble upon the problem before it's time to upgrade your machine.

@RisingApe 7 ай бұрын

absolutley fair comments, and I can't comment other than to say, so far im not aware of anyone running into this issue yet. as a consumer I assume it will last the 12 months of its warantee and after that its fair game. At between 150-170 for a replacement its not too bad to replace if you get a year or two out of it. @@the_arcanum

@MrKlawUK 9 ай бұрын

looking at that curing station, my immediate thought was ‘if it was front loading they could have designed it to stack under the printer’

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

Really good point,

@MrKlawUK 9 ай бұрын

@@RisingApe also give me a one-stop sealed unit for wash and cure. wire basket loads into top of unit, close the lid. Basket automatically lowers into tub of ISO for wash. basket raises back up to top sectoin where the UV light is for curing. Bonus points for sealing off the ISO section when not in use to reduce VOCs and a decent filter.

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

At the moment I would settle for any wash and cure! The most interesting one I’ve seen is the HeyGears one

@andreafalconiero9089 Ай бұрын

... or put it on any shelf of suitable size. I bought the GK2 printer, but didn't get either the curing station or the washer. Both seem to be of high quality, but I didn't want a top-loading curing station, and there are cheaper options available for ultrasonic cleaners. I picked up the newest Sunlu RC-2 curing station, which was reasonably cheap and is very nicely designed, with a completely _flat_ turntable (no central post to interfere with large models), and it loads from the front. It also has a fan with multiple speed settings to dry the model before curing. Quite happy with that purchase so far.

@therealjonaswp602 Ай бұрын

Wait, you mentioned LED strip lights. Do those cure? Or did you use some specific LED lights that has UV in them?

@RisingApe Ай бұрын

Ahh yeh these ones are UV spectrum ones, you can get them very cheap online. Need to be careful with your eyes depending on which you go with

@DanaTYang 9 ай бұрын

I have one! its a great machine, and you are right about user error lol my fail happened when I didn't fill up the vat.

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

It’s all a learning curve right

@AlDumbrava 9 ай бұрын

Lol.. I didn't waste a full day.. just an hour (but honestly it's not intuitive)... Thanks to your video I'm going to try printing now 😊

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

Haha, thanks glad it helped

@aaronnunavabizniz199 8 ай бұрын

I over filler my printer and resin hardened under the fep vat. How would I remove it without damaging the printer?

@RisingApe 8 ай бұрын

Head over to the facebook/discord support group there are a few examples of this there. Carefully is the best short answer I can give you.

@Hubiro 5 ай бұрын

one word: hair dryer

@Hubiro 5 ай бұрын

yeah ok that’s two, but it works :)

@aberodriguez4149 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your time and review being new to 3D printing I am still trying to decide if this is for me. Again thanks.

@RisingApe 6 ай бұрын

If you are new to printing it’s about balancing budget and convenience. If you live in a warmer country you can use a model without a heater. For northern hemisphere/ temperate countries they make life much easier

@aberodriguez4149 6 ай бұрын

@@RisingApe Thank you for your advise I will take it into consideration in my brain storming session. XD

@RisingApe 6 ай бұрын

@@aberodriguez4149 happy to help, if you need advice, just jump into the discord

@anthonymontanio1012 16 күн бұрын

Seriously considering this printer. I have a ton of print failures on my Elegoo Mars 4... almost 1 in 4 prints fails in some way. Does this printer fail at all? Does anyone have experience with failures and this machine or is it near flawless like a BambuLab for PLA?

@RisingApe 16 күн бұрын

There are no flawless printers but it’s very very good

@fabmanly1070 4 ай бұрын

So I know nothing about printing. 1. You need a printer 2. You need a cure processor thingy 3. You sone sort of washing stuff. So it’s not just the cost of the printer? I used Shapeway in the US a couple of times, but now they want $50 for postage. So I was thinking about buying, but all these extras and seems like you are constantly buying other accessories as well? Is it worth buying?

@RisingApe 4 ай бұрын

So for the first few years I just had a printer and a container I filled with IPA to wash the models and a UV curing light. It worked fine. Any upgrade from there is about lifestyle improvements. You will need to buy accessories like gloves and mask, and resin and filters from time to time but that’s it. You can get a great printing set up for under $250 so I do think it’s worth it. If you’re starting out check out my video on the Mars 5 ultra, that’s where I would start these days

@Chimer24-qs5wo 4 ай бұрын

Great video. Glad Ross at Fauxhammer made me aware of your channel. Subscribed )O(

@RisingApe 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@xeraoh 8 ай бұрын

I'm just wondering how is the lifecycle of the heated LCD screen, do you need to replace it earlier than a normal (cooled) one ? these mono lcd's are not to cheap, just asking

@RisingApe 8 ай бұрын

Honestly I don’t know the answer to this, BUT the screen itself is only heated to max 30 degrees and most electronic components are able to withstand significantly higher temperatures than this. I have about 300hrs of printing so far and am delighted with the performance

@JonStallworth 27 күн бұрын

i just watched this entire video. i must’ve missed where the one big problem was. what was it? also he said he put 200 hours into printing but didn’t really show any prints?

@RisingApe 27 күн бұрын

Clearly I was being to subtle, the big problem was the printer was me, essentially the point was it’s a great printer, but it’s not foolproof. Thanks for watching all the way through, appreciate it.

@Mikey__R 9 ай бұрын

I think the final bit of user friendliness would be making the internal memory accessible over the network via NAS protocols. Using a USB stick to transfer files has always seemed a bit low tech.

@RisingApe 9 ай бұрын

They do have WiFi now but I just haven’t got to using it yet so left it out, I prefer a USB tbh.

@andreafalconiero9089 Ай бұрын

They supply an external WiFi adapter with the printer that plugs into a second USB port located at the back of the machine, and reading or writing to the internal storage works fine with this via SMB. There's no hardwired ethernet option available from Uniformation afaik, though maybe a third-party adapter would work (?). I connect to it from Linux, but obviously Windows should also work. It would be nice if the printer had a built-in web interface for monitoring print jobs, etc. but so far that's not present -- just simple file access. It's good enough.

@Infections95 8 ай бұрын

Im still on the fence with whether the UK import prices of another £200 are worth the review compared to just getting a saturn off amazon for £400 less.

@RisingApe 8 ай бұрын

Difficult to say, if you are prepared to do some more DIY and cleaning of the various plates and screws then the Saturn is the better shout. There is no doubt for me though the quality of life improvements on the GK2 are worth it.

@Infections95 8 ай бұрын

@@RisingApe that is what scares me, with it being my first printer the QoL seems well worth it but it's whether it's £400 more for these things is very hard to say when you're totally new to the hobby

@RisingApe 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely get that, I would say the heater is a massive plus, with saturn you would need to buy a band vat heater, which are an annoyance. Basically it comes down to budget, if you have the cash, it’s worth the extra money.

@Gorebashed 8 ай бұрын

My temp control is just in system settings, temp on or off and select temp, if I leave it on it switches on as soon as I turn the power on and gets up to temp. Got my Gktwo about 4 months ago, maybe you need to update firmware?

@RisingApe 8 ай бұрын

Hmm I will check

@herculeholmes504 6 ай бұрын

Why are the NFEP sheets so expensive? I'm considering buying a pre-owned machine, but that's a lot of money for sheets.

@RisingApe 6 ай бұрын

They are $40 for 3? That’s not that bad, I haven’t used one yet and I have been printing on mine for at least 6 months

@herculeholmes504 6 ай бұрын

@@RisingApe PFA film for my Elegoo Saturn 2 is $30 for 5 sheets.

@primitiveman6666 7 ай бұрын

Uniformation has not upheld it's guarantee withing a year of purchase and is now purposefully ignoring my emails requesting for support and replacement parts. I bought 2 GKtwo a washing and a curing machine. Overpaid, massive duty fees to canada, and now i cannot get any support or parts. Truly an awful experience.

@RisingApe 7 ай бұрын

Ouch, I have always seen good support via their facebook page or their discord server too

@andreafalconiero9089 Ай бұрын

That's unlucky! I also live in Canada, and bought a GK2 directly from Uniformation a couple of months ago for $630 USD. It was sent with free shipping right to my door with no additional fees. Maybe they made some improvements there since you bought the printer (?).

@primitiveman6666 Ай бұрын

@@andreafalconiero9089 i would hope so... i still overpaid (500 in shipping and duty) and when resin leaked, they did not provide me with help, or parts. One of them was repaired to a decent standard, but has since then stopped functionning properly (the z axis is off) and the other one is un-usable. They have refused to provide me with service, parts, a refurbished machine, or any sort of help.

@Veefan3 3 ай бұрын

2:40 this was so funny idk why 😂

@marencocarmen 12 күн бұрын

Gk3 does exist now😂

@RisingApe 12 күн бұрын

Time doesn’t stand still eh!

@InputVerolian 5 ай бұрын

Think I'll stick to my Saturn 3's with wambam plates...All of these videos seem bought and paid for by uniformation.

@RisingApe 5 ай бұрын

I wasn’t paid by Uniformation just to be clear. And there was no stipulation to make a positive video. I just had a great experience. If you don’t need the heater you don’t need the GK2

@sbar091 5 ай бұрын

Y U No wear mask?? I'm in the research step of buying a resin printer, one thing holding me back is a dedicated work space. I've read so many warnings and spooky stuff about the chemicals, and personally, if I die faster because of a resin printer, oh well. Live fast, print young. BUT I have cats and family I don't necessarily want to kill. Right now, I could put it in a very small shed that would be sharing space with a freezer. Sounds sketchy. Plus this shed bakes in the summer and freezes in the winter. I've heard this thing is great for low-temps but what about some dry-ass desert?

@RisingApe 5 ай бұрын

I actually usually do wear a mask, yup, it works very well in winter time never heard of high temps causing too many issues but stable temps are much better for performance.