THIS Railroad CANT LEAD TRAINS In The USA, BUT WHY? | Rail RECAP

[@FXE4007]

Awesome Recap! Grettings from Guadalajara México

[@southernNMRail-Refuse18]

There’s a couple places here in the USA that are exempted from PTC regulations. FXE motors lead daily in El Paso, TX and Nogales, AZ

[@AllanLoveJr]

Exactly

[@texkoi]

VERY TRUE !

[@southeasternnewmexicorailf9851]

Yup. I've seen them lead trains on the Carlsbad Subdivision now and then

[@southernNMRail-Refuse18]

@@southeasternnewmexicorailf9851 Do they still lead the H-CLOCRL and H-CRLCLO every now and then?

[@3RTracing]

and basically all over the BNSF system

[@horatiohooligan1706]

Meanwhile Feromex owns and operates Florida East Coast Railway and even painted some of their engines in Mexican Feromex colors.

[@awesomevillevlog5798]

That's Ferromex's Parent Company known as Grupo Mexico (Ferromex, Texas Pacifico, & FEC)

[@bensmall6548]

Also I think it may only apply to Class 1 RRs. FEC is a Class 2 rr.

[@juanito3678]

​@Jabba.Da.Hutt_Bnsf dont hace any single share in ferromex but unión pacific do they have 27% of ferromex shares only, but grupo mexico transportes owns 100% of FEC, FERROSUR, Texas pacifico, coppr Basin rail road, southern copper corporation railroad of perú and this year they bought 60% of ferrobuques a company wich cross a whole train in a railferry thru gulf of mexico from veracruz to mobil Alabama as you can see grupo mexico transportes (GMTX) IS GROWING

[@AbelG8781]

@TPW900GP35 calm down GI Joe

[@armandoperez7967]

It is not BNSF that owns a major stake in Ferromex. Union Pacific owns a 26 percent stake in Ferromex and Grupo Mexico owns the rest.

[@cjbeyer8340]

Love the UNION PACIFIC!!! Thanks for sharing these great videos!

[@ronselliers6951]

Guess I should be more enthused by your recap since I had the rare opportunity to handle all the locations that were shown. In my 43 year railroad career I was a clerk, then Tower Operator and then Train Dispatcher. Worked 18 years for the TRRA, 2 years for the MacArthur Bridge Railroad Bridge controlled by the City of St. Louis, 5 years for GWWR, 2 years for SP and finished up with 16 years for the UP.

[@OfficialLiveTrains]

That's an incredible career!

[@charleswoods9938]

And that was a good Rail video from areas of St Louis Missouri and Houston Texas

[@kens.3729]

Thanks for the Info about the Ballast Trains getting Loaded at two (2) Quarries South of St. Louis. 👍🙏

[@WH_Railfan84]

Awesome Recap!

[@sheldonfcarlson]

Very informative! Thanks!

[@thatrcttrainguy]

I grew up in DeSoto Missouri and where I got my love of trains from.

[@kens.3729]

Just up the Highway from you in South County. 👍🙏

[@AllanLoveJr]

FXE are used as MidTrain/DPU unit's all the time on both the Onion Pacific and the BNSF.

[@yusieneqs]

Meanwhile Ferromex in Roswell, New Mexico

[@gp3829]

Hi, thanks for editing and posting and for the info. I liked seeing all the Trains, especially UP GP38-2 680, since it was ex MP with no D/B and there is a good view of the late Air Filter Housing.

[@TSJoe]

At 0:22 Somewhere in the middle of that consist was the 1 of 1 northern pacific car. I caught this exact train in Rosenberg.

[@CentralHoustonRailfan]

I Railfan in Rosenberg too! (If your talking about Rosenberg TX)

[@TrainsPlanesAutomobiles]

Thanks for the info, very interesting.

[@thebenman28]

I have several photos of them on point on CN tracks in Wisconsin.

[@randydobson1863]

hello Live Trains & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Live Trains & Friends Randy

[@ChainsawNW1218]

Lot's of nice foreign/run-through power and consist, good video!🛤🚂

[@jourdanshepard31]

FXE lead a lot of trains when I was in Oklahoma. Saw a lot of their SD70 motors on BNSF Trains on the line Between OKC and Dallas in Moore and Norman,OK.

[@joellawrence1132]

Last year in April I got one of the new scheme Ferromex zebra units leading. They sent it up to a grain elevator in Baldwin, GA trailing second of two as light engines going to get empties. It was facing south and there’s nowhere for them to turn the power around in Baldwin so the Ferromex led the empties south for a few miles down to the town of Lula, GA where the power was turned on a wye. The locomotives sat in Baldwin for three days before taking the empties because they were short on crews. Those were three of the most stressful days I’ve had as a railfan lol.

[@ARP_GA]

Just as an example, FXE locomotives can still lead on the BNSF El Paso Sub due to it not having PTC in effect. I'm going out there later this year to try and document it before they implement PTC on the El Paso.

[@RandomGeneratedMusic]

Someone caught Ferromex leading a CSX train on the Willard Subdivision once, it was quite some time ago though. There was only two ferromex locmotives, nothing else.

[@kenneth748]

So have I in arkansas

[@3RTracing]

These FeroMex locomotives lead all the time on the BNSF Scenic Sub.

[@anonymuswere]

hey, you guys don't happen to have any from MY area, do you? Clearfield and jefferson counties in Pennsylvania. full yard, car shop, and even a tie plant. we even have a rail themed restaurant and drive in in the area.

[@simon631000]

There's a video of one leading in Massachusetts!

[@kens.3729]

Never gave PTC and Ferromex a thought but GOD knows the Restrictions South of the Border are Wild, Wild, West. 😬👍🙏

[@matthewthebluey-brony-trai8006]

0:32 Also, this applies to CN's BC Rail units and their old C44-9WL's, too, because they don't have PTC status either as well. But at least they still let them be trailing units in the U.S.

[@JTTheRailfan]

I believe the older CN and CP units also are not PTC equipped. Depending on what route the train is traveling on they could lead if PTC isn’t installed on the line like part of a line I used to run on.

[@yeahman70]

Most CP engines have ptc now. Meanwhile CN has a lot of units without PTC. Many dash 9s and all BC Rail units. BNSF also has a lot of units without PTC. Many older Dash 9s as well as most SD70MACs and the thunder cab SD70ACes

[@LivingWRailfan]

I filmed that train with the 2 NS D9s and Herzog cars

[@kelmd1030]

A lot of people sees FXE still lead I’m sure it’s because a lot of areas don’t have PTC in effect yet I work for BNSF Chicago division PTC is on 1000s of locomotives but PTC is not system wide yet

[@MuscleLineRailfan]

There are 2 Ferromex SD70ACes with PTC

[@joellawrence1132]

Which two?

[@BoogyWoogyCreep]

A few lines in TWI do not have PTC capabilities and FXE units are in lead on several grain trains.

[@trainchaserelliot]

I have seen a Ferromex loco lead a NS train long hood forward

[@tobylou8]

I've seen Ferromex in the lead before and recently. I think it's odd that they're even here, but that's another story.

[@larrygraus2648]

Amtrak "phased out" those express boxcars because the privately-owned freight railroads over whose tracks those cars rolled didnt think it was fair that taxpayer-funded government was taking away some of their business.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Crybabies.

[@anthonyventi362]

No that autorack mostly likely went to the Done in East Alton IL. Or sometimes they come from up north from NS or UP. Assuming Chicago heights. IL. Does Locomotive scrapping. Not hundred percent sure where that one was going.

[@XDFRailRoadCooler]

Nice toy trains

[@chuckhalen9543]

I’ve seen plenty of Ferromex locomotives leading KCS mix freight trains heading north and south of Shreveport Louisiana! But, this was pre-merger of the KCS/CP! But, the engine consist was usually a mix of KCS, KCSmexico and Ferromex!

[@Greatdome99]

A generation ago, Canadian locomotives were not allowed to lead trains because they didn't have chemical (retention) toilets--just the old dump-it-on-the-ballast "hoppers." It was thus common for such trains to be led by American "toilet units" used only for their toilets.

[@bernardbunney520]

They lead trains on the TXPF in West Texas

[@midwesternrail4729]

Ive seen videos of CN trains on the Freeport sub with full Ferromex consists.

[@railsofmilwaukee]

@@midwesternrail4729 they were all backlit though 👍

[@midwesternrail4729]

@@railsofmilwaukee IC deathstar griffith incident

[@GEVOlutionCPKC]

Like 1️⃣🚂🏁✨🔝🤝🏽

[@railyardfilms6491]

I have seen ferrormex lead baretable up train by Stockton CA diamonds before

[@markvogel5872]

I have photos of Ferromex units leading a train in Arizona.

[@dfwrider3830]

oh, yeah we do the same thing with our subway trains, some dont have functional atc. due to their age and hopefully soon replacement there is seemingly no need to fix them though, we can just tag those 20 or so cars and ensure they dont lead trains. they work fine in all other respects, and theres over 150 which still have functional atc so its nbd

[@asquithmainlines699]

We are seeing now in Canada, Canadian Pacific not leading with KCS locomotives. They are being used as auxiliary power all through western Canada.

[@snagletoothscott3729]

There was a long time, especially in the Soo days and early post MLWK merger, where many CP units (and a large number of their cabooses, hence a lot of 1980 and early 90 videos of CP +Soo caboose) couldn't lead in the US becuase of FRA glass requirements. It's one reason the Alco's got shifted to Chicago-Windsor trains, becuase they were all glazed back when they worked farther east on cross border lines. Many domestic roads had their own internal issues with it, too, throughout the 80's and ealry 90's. I know DRGW's fleet of GP30's and GP35's, even some of their ealry GP40's, had large numbers of them that were never glazed and spent the the latter half of their career as trailing units only.

[@hillbillyrailfan]

I agree Still see them lead in non-PTC territory. Seen them from time-to-time lead on the U P in Illinois in PTC territory with a simple track Authority they can lead.

[@WhiskeyGulf71]

Do assisting locomotives have engineers aboard are they remotely controlled from the leading locomotive ?

[@AbelG8781]

No, it's radio controlled

[@chrischoice2707]

That's funny because i seen two ferrormex locomotives on bnsf in Dallas Texas pulling a train 😮

[@JWRailfan]

I’ve seen them Lead.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

You can still ship freight with Amtrak but because they no longer use boxcars it haves to fit in baggage or passenger cars.

[@Tmann26]

I work for the FNBS and have definitely had FXE on the point, but yes, that was way before PTC was a half-assed thing (It's a SAFETY overlay, which is why it's not active across the system because we don't believe in that anymore), now all we get are the junk CSX(T), NS, UP, KCS, KCSM, CP, and CN motors as borrow engines on the point... I have yet to get a KCCP, er CPKC motor, but I'm sure it'll happen before too long, ours keep blowing up due to lack of maintenance (even the newfangled and gutless ET44ACH's). Btw KCCP would've been better IMO, 'The People's Railroad'... marketing would've written itself. LOL Their logo could've been a reverser crossed with a brake stick or something.

[@Ricky40369]

Given what they are doing to us, why does anything with Mrx in it have a place in the United States ?

[@AbelG8781]

MRX?

[@lia_heeler]

ive seen a 1 engine train hauled by a ferromix loco, and the line leads into a REALLY big rail yard

[@rapcreeperproductions3269]

I always assumed a locomotive can't lead on a competitor's line. I haven't seen CN, N&S or BNSF lead on UP mainline here in Nebraska

[@AbelG8781]

In the days of cab signaling, that was true. Today, it's all one thing.

[@AlleghenyRailProductions]

That’s definitely something, I saw a quadruple header consisting of 3 CN locos leading and behind the 3 CN locos, 1 CSX unit. This was on a CSX sub

[@johnhannahM2.0]

I just figured all the Ferromex controls were sticky from guacamole.

[@brianwoods2430]

Why do some engines run backwards?

[@B_mikey]

Cause that locomotive might end up going back the way it came or down another subdivision at some point

[@Whathandleisavailable]

Wish they could because one can only use toilets in the trail unit and those ones are bad.

[@machendave]

If the “railroad” can’t lead trains into the USA, how do they get there?!

[@sop2510]

But it doesn’t work for fouled tracks or slow speed operation.

[@Cnw8701]

Actually, they can lead trains, but only in dark territory like on the BNSF El Paso Subdivision. I see them lead trains to Belen all the time.

[@aztransportationfan]

This is not true. I live in Tucson and Ferromex often leads on the UP Tucson to Nogales sub line.

[@Averonthegreat1]

It absolutely is, 95% of the country will not accept a non PTC locomotive leading a mainline train without PTC, the territory’s you mentioned are exempt from PTC capability’s along with two others, this is where you will see ferromex leading and is indeed allowed to lead by the FRA due to that exemption

[@joec6804]

They can be in lead. Just got to get initials very high up the operations chain. For the crew. At a reduced speed. Varies in CTC, ABS, TWC. Click bait video.

[@AdamLifeless]

Crews don’t want them to lead because they smell Absolutely horrible inside.

[@MistuhKayTrains]

They cant lead because they don't have their green card 😂

[@RussellRode]

BWAHAHAHA!😂

[@railfanlynx]

maybe because PTC is a L