This Redefined a Genre - THE TERMINATOR - First Time Watching - Reaction!

[@billfinn7380]

WE SAW THE DIFFERENCE!!!! I saw this in 1984 and yes, we all noticed the janky animatronic Arnold after the eyeball removal, and then cut back to real Arnold when he put on sunglasses. I think there is a misconception that earlier audiences were so unsophisticated that they bought whatever effects they had at the time like "golly gee, that looks sooo real!" I think not so. Example when King Kong came out in 1933, people knew what real apes looked like and how real animals moved, so the screen depiction was obviously fake to them even at the time. But then (as now with a lot of cgi that I think looks fake as hell), you just accept it as a suspension of disbelief so you can enjoy the (it's only a-) movie. In 1984 we could tell the difference between a real person and a plastic animatronic.

[@OneTrueScotsman]

To an extent. But I remember watching Jurassic Park in 1993 and being absolutely blown away with the visuals (like the brontosaurus near the beginning), and it looked fantastic. I watched it again recently, and you can see it doesn't look so great. i've been spoiled with more recent fx. But it did hold up for about 20 years. I think it matters less if you're still a kid. I loved Reeve's Superman when I was a kid. I never saw how obvious the blue screen and wires are. Unlike when I rewatched them recently.

[@kevinburton3948]

Yeah for me (as a 15 year old back then) it was a case of totally knowing it was an animatronic Arnie head, but just being impressed at the way they went about doing the effect. I mean I was 15 after all... I think I was just going "COOOOOL!" Especially after getting a gross out scene of him sticking an exacto knife in his eyeball.

[@PotSmokeGuy]

Terminator was a low budget movie. James Cameron was not a famous director at the time. He couldn't afford great effects...people accepted it because it was a good movie. I agree 100% with your opinion.

[@FilthTribeFTP]

I wasn't born until '89, however, from my experience, as well as assumptions, I feel like people in '84 seeing practical effects like that, were probably so amazed by it, that it somewhat was able to override their focus on the fact that it was a noticeable animatronic prop. It was still a great special effect for it's time (thanks to the great Stan Winston). Of course, had that same effect been used in a modern movie today, it wouldn't be so forgiven by the audience...

[@philosopher0076]

I must correct the woman reactor here. She said credit cards probably weren't really used much " back then ". That's beyond silly to say. Credits cards were used back in the 1950's miss. They were solidly part of mainstream banking when this movie came out in 1984. She also said ATMs probably weren't even around when Terminator came out ( again 1984 ). Another silly statement. ATMs were around in the late 1960's. In 1984 they were common place! After the New York City blizzard of 1978 their popularity skyrocketed. Commercials everywhere said, " Just tap Mac " ( Mac machines ). And, " Need cash? Ask George " ( George was another ATM name ). So FYI. This girl perhaps thinks 'The Terminator' came out in the Jurassic period or something. 😮‍💨

[@billfinn7380]

EARLY INTERNET! At my high school in 1979 or 1980 we had computers connected to phone modems. Through them we had access to some basic services, information, and The Oregon Trail game! Good times : )

[@billfinn7380]

ATMs widespread at the time! First ATM in the US was installed in 1960. Widespread by 1973. Everwhere, even tiny towns by 1984. Also credit card use was widespread by the mid 1960s

[@PotSmokeGuy]

The Terminator was a very low budget movie. There were better effects at the time, but he couldn't afford them on his tiny budget. James Cameron was not a famous director at the time, and this was Arnold's second "Hollywood" movie after Conan. People could obviously see the lower budget effects, but looked past it because it's a good movie. The models used in the future battle scenes are actually pretty good. People weren't stupid in 1984, but accepted limitations of effects.

[@rottieshepcalibre9156]

I love how shocked you was at the 80’s flex 😂😂 “you could smoke in a restaurant like that?” 😂 80’s was nuts

[@amylou2395]

@@rottieshepcalibre9156 Airplanes, grocery stores,hospitals😂😂😂

[@scgreek1114]

In 1973's "The Exorcist," the doctors are smoking in the hospital.😂

[@nac.mac.feegle]

The World Wide Web was invented later, but there were other Internet protocols (WWW is a protocol) in use before that. And the Internet wasn't invented (in the 60s) to make communication fast, but as to be a robust network that wouldn't be shut down if one node or a whole country of nodes were destroyed. The military wanted this, but so did scientists all over the world who exchanged scientific information to an unprecedented way. Those other protocols still exist to some degree or other. P.s. Tracy Kidder's _Soul of a New Machine_ tells the story in an engaging way (IMO).

[@mslavender7994]

Kyle Reese and Sarah are John Connors' parents. Yes. Terminator still holds up.

[@kylereese4822]

No one told me.....................

[@Bruce-r4z]

It was 1983/1984 technology everything hasn't been so digitalized and easy before you two blessed the earth with your presence.

[@scgreek1114]

"Back when it was so easy to get all that information." 😂 As someone who's been in the I.T. industry for 30+ years, I can guarantee you a motivated hacker can get your exact height and weight in about an hour. 😬 You could opt out of being listed in the phone book, or just have your name and number without the address.

[@JB-nc7yk]

Uzi's were then and are still legal. Any one of legal age and legally allowed to own can buy one over the counter today too. Also, there were ATMs around in 1984. It was the 80s not the 50s.😏

[@manueldeabreu1980]

I don't know if you guys cut it out in the KZbin edit. You actually have 3 Aliens alum in this movie, Bill Paxton (Hudson), Michael Biehn (Hicks) and Lance Henriksen (Bishop). It is good to see you are fair and respect when the movie was made. This movie was 40 years old and was cutting edge. I saw it in the theaters and the eye cut out was oof. The animatronic head stuck out but it didn't stick out as much because it was still so new. A movie that was amazing from that time is American Werewolf in London during the transformation scene. That holds up pretty well considering how old it is. I prefer practical effects over CGI. CGI just doesn't fit for me.

[@daveb947]

@manueldeabreu1980 I don't mind CGI sometimes. But it's best used to touch up practical effects like eye movements or a bit of touched up gore. IMO of course.

[@StarShipGray]

In the original screenplay there is a scene where we see the Terminator modifying his guns to make them fully automatic. Even in the 80s that Uzi would have been semiautomatic.

[@jiujitsujackson9831]

Bill Paxton even got manhandled in true lies.

[@sergiodavila5269]

…..and got turned to a toad in Weird Science 🧬😂

[@bigraj337]

Paxton also was in Predator 2. And he got slapped around by Wyatt Earp in Tombstone. And a vampire in Near Dark. Bill did it all. And yes, restaurants use to have non-smoking sections that were still almost as smoky as the rest of the place. My mom was a waitress back in the early 80s (usually graveyard shift) and would take me with her sometimes. Helped her get better tips having a kid in footie pjs handing out menus and bring water to the customers. :). After a while when the non-smoking section wasn’t being used, I’d go to sleep in one of the booths with the partition blocking out a few of the tables, smoke still wafting in. Good times.

[@Thezion1111]

Bill Paxton shares the distinction with Lance Hendricson, of playing characters that have been killed by the alien, predator and xenomorph

[@windsorkid7069]

@@bigraj337 It was Billy Bob Thorton that was slapped by Wyatt Earp.

[@tvdroid22]

Paxton played Wyatt Earp's brother, Morgan. Don't forget Weird Science and the series Big Love. A real tribute to the man is everyone agreed he was most loved on set, the nicest person.

[@windsorkid7069]

@@tvdroid22 And Twister with Helen Hunt.

[@tvdroid22]

@@bigraj337 I loved him as that vampire...."Finger lickin' good!"

[@ChristopherTaylor-r5d]

I saw this in the theater when I was 13 years old. Yeah...mind BLOWN.

[@marquisdcarabas]

No you don't understand John sent him back knowing Reese was going be his dad that's an new level of awkward

[@scottlaughlin9897]

Yes we noticed the bad mask back then. And yes we did have ATMs in the 80s

[@nascreates3392]

Y'all got all bent out of shape about Sarah and Kyle... my mind was going, "He's not John's friend, not John's friend..." I think y'all caught on, but there was no "aha" acknowledgement so I don't know for sure... lol.

[@ChristopherTaylor-r5d]

I was SO bummed when Bess Mota got killed by the terminator! She was one of my early crushes. The 20 minute workout girls were fire, and she was the best one!

[@terryconnelly484]

Not sure how old she is, but she has an old soul.You've taught her well. Good reaction

[@JB-nc7yk]

Watch your mouth young lady, Alien vs Predator is absolute classic, campy, movie goodness!!!!😉

[@kimcottingham8043]

2nd one is awesome. My fave action movie!

[@brandonflorida1092]

The military Internet, originally called DARPANet, eventually became our Internet, and even before that, there were computer networks, just not a global one. A computer network was often just for a single company. The World Wide Web didn't exist until 1990, and it was more years before it went public. Bear in mind that the special effects suffer not only from the limits of 80s technology, but also from the fact that this was a low budget movie. Hey, you guys are fun. Do more movies.

[@Lespaul13100]

Great movie! One of my faves! Yes, there were ATMS back then, and sawing off the barrel of a shotgun makes it "Sawed off'. James Cameron helped a lot of actors back then . He had some of the actors in this movie in some of his other ones as well. Love the channel!

[@iconpoet]

80s guy here. Give us a LITTLE bit of credit. I mean, come on

[@mikemarcotte5962]

Oh, we ALL wanted Reese's Nike Airs, believe that.

[@chaosisfun49]

As far as i know Bill paxton and lance henrikson are the only 2 to face off against aliens, predators and the terminator

[@tvdroid22]

Paxton has about two minutes on screen in Commando as well. On a shotgun, it's the barrel length. That was old 80's canned music cuz you couldn't use the good stuff. Miami Vice was the first TV show to have real music by the known artists instead of routinely using cheap covers. Sure movies had soundtracks, but they also were the ones that had a decent budget. It was the first time for I'll be back. Arnold and Cameron disagreed over how it should be said. Cameron won. Reese was wearing Nike Vandals.

[@tokatgibi]

Terminator 2 is the best movie in cinema history

[@TheNextStep851]

That was a great reaction. Regarding Pugsley, the Iguana - word has it that he was framed for what happened to Matt and Ginger.

[@kevinburton3948]

Well Ginger did say she was going to make a belt out of him. He had motive. 😆

[@sergiodavila5269]

I’m sure I’ve been beat to this already but yeah…Bill Paxton has fought & been killed by a Terminator, Predator, & Alien….and fought a Twister successfully 😂

[@RockPowerUSA]

Watching Terminator Salvation first would screw with you a little bit. Today it's an official breaking of the brain with your fans. Now you have to put the family tree together in your head with the dating tree. 😮 Btw, didn't you notice the picture taken at the end by the Mexican kid and it's reference?

[@QualityFrogBS]

ATMs were a thing. The Internet was a thing, connecting government and research organizations. Many bank ATMs were connected via packet switch networks (the technology that makes the internet possible) in the 1980s. Concepts of a global Network connecting everything have been around in fiction for over 70 years. Nikes were not throwaway shoes. Those Air Force Ones that Reese puts on were "the thing" back then.

[@FilthTribeFTP]

A sawed off shotgun ABSOLUTELY is defined only when the barrel is shortened under the minimum length (by law), which is 18.5", and has nothing to do with the stock (as you can have a shotgun with JUST a pistol grip and NO stock, perfectly legal).... Anything shorter would then be classified as an NFA item, and would be subject to much stricter requirements, as opposed to your standard civilian legal firearms. An NFA tax stamp must be paid, along with filing proper forms with the ATF and background checks and about 6 months wait time for approval (all this you must do BEFORE acquiring/converting the NFA weapon/attachment/etc.) If approved, you get your tax stamp and your weapon/item is now federally registered and traceable. Also, the Uzi and AR-18 he stole from the gun store were civilian legal semi autos. It's implied he modified them off screen to fire full auto. But no, you could NOT just buy a fully automatic weapon from a gun store. Not since 1934, due to the NFA act. Buying those today is a whole separate process and only pre May 1986 manufactured machine guns are transferrable between civilians and VERY expensive.

[@mikedignum1868]

Fewer permits to get when you film at night. Count the number of actors in this ended up in the Alien franchise.

[@TheNextStep851]

One thing I always loved in this is when Reese runs out into the street with the shotgun. There are 2 guys in the background that just slowly back into a doorway and out of sight lol.

[@LudusAurea]

Michael biehn I.e Kyle Reese was also in Aliens of course

[@ivanjuarez1160]

She should watch terminator 2 on your channel!

[@Bruce-r4z]

its not going to help the cerebrally chanllenged

[@rickyruckleii4859]

Do you see the how they do the small drones in that one don't they look like the same ones then we've been seeing lately

[@spartanlord91]

When you get to terminator 2, watch the special edition.

[@ClaireWW]

Unless you're going to watch the other sequels, in which case watch the theatrical or it won't make sense.

[@franklegarda6510]

Conan the barbarian that made Arnold Schwarzenegger in action star

[@shabbirshaikh1614]

When are you watching krrish 3 guys

[@sandraecheverria4695]

It is a pitty you laugh all the time, as if it were a comedy

[@williamberry9013]

Wait, she only saw the lousy predator movies too?

[@michellejackson5011]

Abyess

[@carlooldani3150]

Schwarzenegger peak = 70s not 80s

[@philosopher0076]

Too much laughing for no reasons here and laughing just inappropriately. ie: " You could smoke in restaurants back then? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!!!!!!!!!! What's funny? ie: #2: " Look at how big that answering machine is....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!! Really? Technology was a little less advanced. What's so side splittingly hilarious about a bigger answering machine? ie: #3: This one was just inappropriate big time....just cringy. ( Sarah's roomate Ginger turns in fear to escape The Terminator who just slaughtered her boyfriend in cold blood in front of her..... runs, gets shot in the back and falls.) " Oh she's DEAD..... HAHAHAHAHA! " Really? Nothing funny at all about that. So, that's 3 examples of about 25. Ridiculous. I don't get this guys mindset at all...even the girl laughed at the girl getting murdered. I mean. What's wrong with people? Ughh. SMH.

[@williamberry9013]

Terminator and T2 are great. Sorry you wasted your time with 1 of the money grab later pieces of crap.