The girls KZbin channel is called Stout Metalcraft! She’s insanely talented at metal fab
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
@bodiedgmc very talented but the old machinists also were very talented but could never compare to a CNC mill or lathe
@TurboHEMI_4262 ай бұрын
"girl"? If this was a man, would we say boy?
@bodiedgmc2 ай бұрын
@ Dave referred to her as “girl” multiple times during the video, so you can take that negativity elsewhere bud.
@TurboHEMI_4262 ай бұрын
@@bodiedgmc Well Bud, that was for you and Dave.
@johnnieburge49972 ай бұрын
Definitely about to subscribe to her channel! Thanks for info
@AlteredCarbons2 ай бұрын
i watched this twice because it was such an interesting concept my brain went nuts thinking of custom body work for cars... like imagine a low rider, with 100% custom made lace ETCHED not paint... hell any car, you could make custom custom custom hoods, you could make so much from this thats not even cars... like you could get a custom pc case panel... custom signage, all sorts of things. i like this tech
@davidhayes86702 ай бұрын
Stout metalcraft, sheet metal artistry at its finest!
@Randy-q5h2 ай бұрын
Easy to make wide body quarter panels and fenders (plus fender wells) that can be welded in place.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Yeah or a whole quarter where it just needs to be spot welded on in the factory positions that is what has me exited about it
@Rrottweiler2 ай бұрын
Stainless Steels parts, what never rust. Or aluminium for weight reduction. Damn, Mopar C-body guys could finally have floorboards, fenders, trunk floors, window corners etc... 🙂
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Anything you could 3d scan and make a model of it could make which would be crazy
@reginaldbowls7180Ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be cool to have a stainless bodied muscle car?
@glenryan656929 күн бұрын
If you have a perfect mold this thing can spit them out forever, perfectly in less than a hour.
@CZ-kz7ug2 ай бұрын
Repeatability is everything. Be nice not having customers waiting all day just for sheetmetal work. There is alot more to a car than just bodywork. You get in an accident, boom press start and a new panel is made. Worth takin a loan out for.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
@CZ-kz7ug yes it is especially if you want everything to match and be uniform
@matthewpauls24982 ай бұрын
thank you. personally I think hand fabrication is a beautiful but ludicrous art. One accident and hundreds if not thousands of hours are gone. Of course presses and dies are super expensive, but this is the solution I always knew should exisst
@CyberpunkChanel20 күн бұрын
It remains to invent the ideal robot painter
@7seriesmax2 ай бұрын
You have to think about it that machine can make you any body panel or hood skin that you desire for any vehicle ever made. Or make you a one off hood skin for your hellcat wagon.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Yes my thoughts exactly
@PatrickBrown-lv7rv2 ай бұрын
Press tools are for high volume parts, they run a sheet thru 'stages' to achieve the finished panel. This technology is more suited to low volume or one offs, has come a long way! Coach building is a craft which cant be lost altogether & could work in conjunction with this?
@mpetersen624 күн бұрын
A Stamping Press process can spit out panels in minutes with rates of 120 an hour. As stated high volume parts. But prototypes, custom or reproduction this is ideal.
@gerard79972 ай бұрын
This is a great technique to form any sheet metal parts, not only in automotive industry. As a mechanical engineer this gives me more freedom when i design parts. The costs will make the difference. Nice video!
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
@@gerard7997 thanks what had me sold was they are forming titanium panels this is going to drastically change the aviation industry imagine the organic titanium panels they will be able to form and how advanced the planes will become in a short period of time
@BRaff-hl4ip24 күн бұрын
So with the surface stretching of the sheet metal there has to be a reducing of the metal thickness.
@haynesdavis-m3p22 күн бұрын
Not exactly top of the list of their sales pitch. The way they talk about it, no big deal creating a surface area when formed which is 1000 times the area of the original flat sheet. Maybe they should include some word such as nanotechnology to enhance their sales pitch, lol. Also, the way he talks about the dies and the material's spring back issues, yeah an insurmountable problem where technology will never overcome, whereas any spring back distortion with the CNC doesn't exist , tis gonna be all piss easy and become dirt cheap. LMAO.
@johnclary7292 ай бұрын
There is a process with a male and female mold with the composite between the two that squeezes the resin out between them to get just enough resin to cover the fibers which is as light as that part can be made. This would be perfect for that.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Do you mean for carbon fiber? The pressure for that process is 100's of tons
@AllSpeed2 ай бұрын
i love this, i could think of a few uses for it. Replace your steel fenders with aluminum once for instance,
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure he said that hood was made out of titanium which is almost impossible to form
@Never-mind19603 күн бұрын
I wonder if this can work with a scanner that would copy an existing vehicle panel. Say you go to a car show and scan the parts on a really good version of the car you are trying to restore and just print-out a copy. So many cars that you can't get replacement parts for could be saved.
@hu51162 ай бұрын
Yes,I’ve been following this, and I think it’s fantastic! I think the Figur machine give better results than the two finger methods, unless they have improved it. And I think the Figur is faster. Cutting should not be a problem, because you can have it trace a groove with a sharp stylus where you cut it out. Supposedly it’s fairly economical. Certainly less than making hydraulic die press. I think manual sheet metal working is still necessary to bring pieces together, tweak things and both small pieces and very large pieces.
@JeffWade-jq6ib2 ай бұрын
Thank you at the end of the day.
@bruceburns167223 күн бұрын
How thin is the metal after shaping, it would have to be paper thin on some shapes because of the amount of stretching.
@mchristr2 ай бұрын
So how far away are we from sending a file to a company and having them make some flared fenders and quarter panels?
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
You can do that today the future is here
@rybreadification12 күн бұрын
This is neat. I wonder if they can start with a thicker gauge sheet to end up with a certain gauge after it's stretched. Hopefully there will be companies you can go to and have a panel made for a reasonable cost. Even if you have to work it afterwords it's still cool.
@Never-mind19603 күн бұрын
You could probably start out with the panel, then use the machine to make perfect fitting backer reinforcement shapes like the inside of car hoods and trunks.
@rybreadification3 күн бұрын
@ yeah, that’s a good idea, it would be an easy way to make those backer panels that brace the outside panel.
@glenryan656929 күн бұрын
Wonder if you could use a press to get panels 80% of the way the drop into new machine to make it perfect. The stuff you could do is mind boggling, any hood scoop on any hood, any side scoop on any car, something off a fighter jet molded to your car.
@sbennettytАй бұрын
I could see this being useful for one offs or prototypes but I have serious doubts about it being used to mass produce parts for a couple reasons. Stamping a part would be much faster after the initial die was made and also the wear and tear on the robot would be costly to maintain for long production runs.
@johnnieburge49972 ай бұрын
Great video! I’m new to metal fabrication! I would love to get parts from this new technology!
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Thanks and when I talked with the company they said panels would be $800 which imo is cheap for something like that
@tylerbarrett66522 ай бұрын
Soooo... can somebody... ANYBODY... finally make a working replica of the Mach 5? I'm sure someone wants to be Speed Racer at Halloween... and WHAT A PROP!!! I bet you could sell a bunch of kit kars if there is any quality at all to the project.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Im sure you would get sued by Disney
@jcott2798Ай бұрын
I'm stoked. I need rocker panels and quarter panels that have been discontinued and no longer available from the dealership.
@NathansMoparGarage2 ай бұрын
Very cool and even better in a few years when it gets better.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Yeah its going to advance fast each time that orange robot forms a panel it is laser scanning and watching in real time so it is learning how what its doing is changing the metal as its forming.
@jeff51012 ай бұрын
Hand formed bodies are shrunk to size/shape not stretched, the body work gets thicker not thinner. Not that it matters but this is similar to deep drawing an aluminum can. I was fabricating replica AC Cobras and Ferrari GTOs of the same era 35 years ago and they were better than the originals. No lead or bondo and a couple were polished to a mirror finish. It's definitely an art.
@OKFrax-ys2op20 күн бұрын
I can’t wait for the tabletop version 🤔💥🤩
@markanthony327519 күн бұрын
From Harbour Freight LOL!
@user-re6yo7tj5s24 күн бұрын
Any material? Does that include Jelly,wood,paper,cardboard,perspex,glass,slate,stone..........
@myoneblackfriend31512 ай бұрын
I knew the day would come.
@jjoop2 ай бұрын
Wonder what the price is gonna be also debating getting one of those laser rust removing machines looks unreal
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Those machines are cool I would like to get one but I have heard if powder coating or painting you still have to blast the surface
@real82it2 ай бұрын
Wow
@Just_My_Reviews2 ай бұрын
I just watched a video about professional sculptures using the same robots.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Those robots are used a lot in assembly and welding in the automotive industry
@truetech41582 ай бұрын
That machine is the mother of panel shaping, you see ma at sema.
@Rob-z4tАй бұрын
How thin is the finished product ? That's a massive amount of stretching going on there ! Also cost. I imagine it won't be cheap.
@BrucePierson2 ай бұрын
Robots taking over the world.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
In some extent
@samperras2 ай бұрын
This young lady is amazing, no machine will match her work Stout Metal Craft , this machine will cost $$$$$ and will obsolete within years
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
She is good but I remember when the machinists were trying to fight the cnc machines saying the same thing obviously we would never have billet blocks if that was the case
@dubsydubs52342 ай бұрын
Out of any material you say, wow I'd love to see panels made with water, that'll be amazing.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Id like to see panels made with water too
@wyldanimal2Ай бұрын
That Technology is called Hydro-Forming.
@dubsydubs5234Ай бұрын
@@wyldanimal2 No that's different, the title says it can make metal panels out of any material, water is the material I want to see it make a panel out of.
@davidingham3409Ай бұрын
CAD is not the best way to design esthetic shapes. Not at least until we have "feelovision". The artist can feel the clay. We learn and evolve to like shapes that feel good. I say this as a scientist who has been using computers intensively for over fifty years. And as the brother of a great engine mechanic. I have taken a lot of pottery classes.
@isekaiexpress945017 күн бұрын
As a hobby maker, i also love to shape clay with hand and THEN scan it.
@wyldanimal2Ай бұрын
Metal spin forming has been a staple of formed sheet metal for decades. Hydro-Forming and Press forming take flat static sheets and cause plastic deformation of the metal to retain it's new formed shape. Translating that to CNC Pinch forming is just taking the plastic deformation process of stretching and forming of Metal to the next level.
@jeremydiamond88242 ай бұрын
Ya you’re right Dave it’s a faster way of doing it and how amazing they’ve come up with that kind of technology is awesome! Just the labor alone will save on time not your back ,arms ,legs and snorting in them there metals lol ! But at the end of it all you will still have to sand those check marks in the end witch is cool 😎 👍🏻😎🇺🇸🦅
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
The forming marks are getting better and better the machines just need to be used to learn and eventually they wont have any markings from forming. The crazy thing is they were forming a titanium hood out of sheet
@blito3wot26 күн бұрын
you can make it as a die mold...pour molten metal...extract and test.
@beauvrt2 ай бұрын
Oh I want one I have so many good designs in my mind
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Oh you and me both it would be awesome to have one of these and build stuff on the fly quick
@Pops194827 күн бұрын
The lady from Stout Metalcraft probably doesnt give a shit about new technology . . . more interested in having fun showing what she can do
@ralphhandymanАй бұрын
We need one that can make a dashboard when your dashboard crack and old you cannot find your car at a junkyard for a replacement dash you get the machine to make one for you in plastic or metal 🤔
@StaredownGames2 ай бұрын
This is cool! Replicator tech becoming reality right before our eyes. I REALLY hope face-shaped grilles/panels don't become a thing.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
You said it now I must do it lol jk
@jpkatz1435Ай бұрын
Just say NO to Thomas the Train.
@1234568290029 күн бұрын
Impressive! Great video, thanks! Practical applications are virtually endless: Who cares how rusted out your restoration project is? Want "final" prototype parts instead of 3-D printed "test pieces?" "Fender bender?" No problem, print replacements quickly. Geez, how soon before "completed parts" (painted - ready to install) are generated?
@wyldanimal2Ай бұрын
I would take it to the next advancement using thermal pinch forming, by applying both Heating and Cooling to the process. Heat to allow for more precise control of the plastic deformation and then rapid cooling to Lock in the shape. I should Patent this technology. No One is doing it yet...
@DutchKC9UOD2 ай бұрын
Does it run on Solid Works?
@Mike-hr6jzАй бұрын
This could get you into the ballpark a lot faster you still would have hand work to do but still what it will save you weeks of time doing it all by hand I would like to make using the part as a mold for a fiberglass parts or carbon fiber again so much quicker than from scratch And of course, much more accurate especially if you’re making fenders that are round from right to left, keeping it the same is difficult by hand
@leighbrown154526 күн бұрын
As a tradesman I’m under no illusion about the future of employment I know you can spend a large portion of your career developing and improving your personal skills but time and evolution wait for no one I can see the downside and upside of this technology and like the original coach builders this is the future and will only get better the upside is that people who can’t afford classic cars will be able to have a chance at owning a dream car because it will be possible to have something that is as close to original or better at a far more affordable price and there will always be a need for someone to invest in the tech and to upskill into new fields it’s not going to take over the industry in the next few years but it’s only a matter of time
@DutchKC9UOD2 ай бұрын
Ok looks great but how much does it cost?
@michaeldecker2725Ай бұрын
How much can they stretch metal? The depth of some of those examples have me thinking it’s really thin. As far as does go these might be able to help make the molds to make the dies, just a theory.
@markanthony327519 күн бұрын
Yeah...I have the same question. Of course, I'm sure old school stamping produced thin areas.
@tonyacerra2329Ай бұрын
I wonder if it can build aluminum boats like maybe a catamaran.
@feelthesteeltatt00piercing2 ай бұрын
Lawerence howard lynchpin design. Its the future of cranes. Drones can now lift like a crane . Drones will take place of older wire cranes . Construction and tall buildings will go up faster, just like these machines that can produce multiple pieces .
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Yeah I have seen the drone building concept and with a 1000 drones it would be crazy to see a building built
@scottsammons7747Ай бұрын
This isn't a tool for the craftsman, it is a tool for the manufacturer. It lets smaller companies make prefabs. But will be out of reach for the craftsman.
@johnrisher3007Ай бұрын
I agree with you brother 💯. Great for bigger companies not for the small guy
@emeltea332 ай бұрын
Can panels be copyrighted?
@MohammedAhmed-md5hj26 күн бұрын
Usefull for making machine tools or limited production but not mass production panel forming
@McGruff20082 ай бұрын
So if it goes mainstream and auto manufacturers start using it, they'll buy the rights to the body panels so that you can't make them at home.
@victorriceroni84552 ай бұрын
You ain't kidding. They will refuse to make them and forbid you from doing it.
@jordanbest39262 ай бұрын
Stamping sheet metal is exponentially cheaper. This would be used for design phases not full production. If there was a way for manufacturers to enforce the reproduction of body panels wouldn’t you think it would already be in place? There are hundreds maybe even thousands of aftermarket companies producing body panels and have been for many years.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
If you 3d scan something and do a surface model how would they stop you from making it
@victorriceroni84552 ай бұрын
@@Junkyard_Dave I like the way you think.👍
@truetech41582 ай бұрын
Eventually, your cheap humanoid robot will press and bend sheets accordingly in a fast way, while telling you to wait a few weeks till it build you a proper spaceship or its free, and it will be free at that point already.
@Never-mind19603 күн бұрын
Actually, this isn't really the best tool for mass production. This really meant for making short runs like prototypes, repair parts and custom work. When you are making thousands of parts, stamping is still the way to go. But saving old cars for lower cost is going to be great.
@T3glider2 ай бұрын
When robots start building robots … we’re f’ed.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
They already do
@kathrynw32 ай бұрын
I guess the sheet metal workers will be out of a job soon, that includes the Nascar guys.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Im sure they have 10 years before this tech is commercialized
@kathrynw32 ай бұрын
@Junkyard_Dave I wouldn't count on that, anything that can make the corporations more profit will be adopted fast. Profits before people.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
@kathrynw3 the techbis still learning it has been about 10 years for 3d printers, but yes once it' works it's going to be used a lot
@murraymadness4674Ай бұрын
umm, they have this magic material called fiberglass that makes all this obsolete...again.
@royhi18092 ай бұрын
HYDROFORMING IS THE FUTURE!
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Ive seen it used you really cant do intricate detail with hydro forming its more for rounder organic shaped
@omarks27 күн бұрын
The stout metalcraft artisan's name is Jasmine Green. Somebody that talented deserves to be name checked. We don't refer to Dave Kindig or George Barris as a 'boy'....
@Auggies19562 ай бұрын
A million-dollar price tag?
@johnrisher3007Ай бұрын
Tell me how much it costs.
@RobbertW22 ай бұрын
The downside i see to this is that the edges will always be flat, so the metal needs to be stretched way more then if it was done by hand, losing rigidity
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
So where it grabs isn't part of the part the first down push makes it rigid so then the part can be formed its almost like support material on a 3d printer
@RobbertW22 ай бұрын
@ yea i know its impossible to do this way, without grabbing the edges, but just wanted to point out one of the few downsides, the material will get thinner then when its done by an artisan
@alexextreme30262 ай бұрын
Com os governos proibindo combustão e seu uso isto vai desmotivar demasiadamente a reparação e certos setores automotivos ficando demasiadamente caro se for feito sob plataformas eletricas.
@CyberpunkChanel20 күн бұрын
looks like the last few years of companies specializing in the production of new bodies. I can't wait for this robot to appear on Aliexpress and for homemade muscle cars to fill the roads of third world countries. Now you can restore cars from this incredible crap without spending years searching for parts that have long since disappeared
@ronnaccarato48742 ай бұрын
Amazing but.. limited to small run low production vehicles... 8n an industry where composite materials is growing by the day. See , in large scale industrial situations you cannot beat stamping and robotic welding for speed and cost. Manufacturing engineers spend every second of every day trying to reduce costs and increase production speed and a system like this in a large plant would make them have nightmares. It's too expensive for a small fab shop who can knock out small runs quickly with hammer forms and talent. So who does this system best work for, based on cost, talent, flexibility, and time? Basically high tech prototype shops, or very limited run shops with limited fab capabilities.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
People said 3d printing would never be industrialized or used in automotive markets but look at the metal 3d printers doing just that and doing things that could never be done without the tech
@johnrisher3007Ай бұрын
Ok people are probably going to hate on me, but how many small shops are going to be able to buy one of these machines. I mean how many thousands of dollars will this cost. People need to learn how to do sheet metal work by hand first
@gabegabes641929 күн бұрын
What I see is Hot rods and Classic car rebuilds being built for a fraction of the current manual labor cost! great for the consumer, not so great for the artists who do that type of body work
@TinShackVideos22 күн бұрын
The material has to be so thin.
@Never-mind19603 күн бұрын
You could probably start out with the panel, then use the machine to make perfect fitting backer reinforcement shapes like the inside of car hoods and trunks.
@davidgalea611325 күн бұрын
It takes me forever to make an accurate and small patch panel. This thing could make it in 30min... too bad its out of reach...
@BigEightiesNewWave2 ай бұрын
Not as strong as stamp in a piece with a die it's not even comparable
@spencereagle11182 ай бұрын
But there's a guy in Pakistan that can do exactly the same with a hammer and a brick.
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Each part will be different the skill is there but the robot eliminates human error because when you form a panel its by eye and feel
@spencereagle11182 ай бұрын
@@Junkyard_Dave The robot also eliminates your bank balance.
@SuperUbuntudude2 ай бұрын
@Nas_Atlas27 күн бұрын
Just build all vehicles out of flat panels only the way God intended. Problem solved.
@Yosser70Ай бұрын
Should at least credit Smarter Every Day if you are going to use a load of his footage!
Ай бұрын
Soon we will be all unemployed and become 🔋
@nazcaplain2 ай бұрын
In "minuets"? A minuet is a social dance for two people that originated in France and was popular in European ballrooms from 1650 to 1750. It is also the name of the piece of music that accompanies the dance. Seems odd for SEMA. Cool tech though!
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Lol good catch it was late when I uploaded the video
@SteppingR2 ай бұрын
but if a well payed man do that work with a hammer....he punch his personality and soul with every hit in that part ;) ........that cant do a robot arm
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
Its good to know how to do body work and metal forming but a person can never beat a robot
@mikeswindell13724 күн бұрын
It takes seconds to stamp body panels, cnc will be a niche market and not. Cheap.
@brianwaayenberg30992 ай бұрын
Clickbait title This process does not take minutes…..
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
@@brianwaayenberg3099 depends 8n what you're forming that nose cone tool 30min to make out of aluminum
@brianwaayenberg30992 ай бұрын
That was on the single point gantry machine? That’s very impressive tones to form that prototype. I assume being 3 axis it is limited in the geometry it can form. Still awesome tho. The could ass a counter ram under it to for support, heck could add a 5 axis head too. The gantry/ram will be stiffer and more accurate The 2 arms is prototype only to avoid designing a purposed machine and for that its less stiff and takes forever
@Junkyard_Dave2 ай бұрын
@brianwaayenberg3099 the orange arms are 5 axis well technically more since the support arm can allow more complex shapes. The company with the orange arms are going to try to setup as a job shop for automotive body panels plus they are doing titanium forming which hasn't really been done before. The 3 axis one a company will charge 800 a panel which is pretty good if the machine is 1 million.
@mpetersen624 күн бұрын
This is very impressive but l can see forms it cannot do. Yet. But for the purists. Don't worry. Your English Wheel etc is not dead.
@tracymason739328 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what you're smoking Dave having two robotic arms pushing on metal is ever going to be under $100,000... No
@TrustNRuss2 ай бұрын
Second
@alexwambugu82282 ай бұрын
Third
@derfsenoj74392 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, at the end of the day, at the end of the day at the end of the day. Ugh.....
@brianlove841313 күн бұрын
You are comparing artisans with potential high production machines, they not on the same page, not even in the same book! Just go back to press tools as others have.
@FredBlair-bk4cf20 күн бұрын
Not sure your qualifications are enough to be making negative comments
@NAOYFB2 ай бұрын
Sadly just a Service it seems. No machine for sale to consumers, so not interesting to even concidder as a diy person.