This Runescape Streamer is Accused of Being a Predator! |

[@KingCondor]

I'd appreciate if we focussed our comments on the topic of a osrs streamer being a potential predator/sexual abuser/rapist rather than your personal problems with Hanannie. Thanks

[@maniacmatt7340]

Thanks for covering this. Like you said, going to be a lot of toxicity around something like this.

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

@ihatestans99do you understand how serious of a defamation suit she would be opening herself up to if she wasn’t sure the information was correct? Notice how defy hasn’t even denied the allegations yet two days in….rub the two brain cells you have left together before you write your next comment.

[@KingCondor]

George Bush Did 9/11

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

@ihatestans99 I’m mad at life? Bro look at your comments?🤣🤡

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

@ihatestans99 defy already sued hanannie? Your reading comprehension is abysmal but it’s not surprising considering your comments are barely coherent at all.

[@largemarty93]

people sayin he needs help...brother no - he needs JAIL

[@ChuwiEnjoyer]

he needs help getting there though, he's been struggling with that.

[@DynastyTragdyzZ]

Why did I read that like the Arabic homie from the Meme 😂

[@Dy0rk]

Don’t you think some evidence could be useful before you proclaim someone should be in prison?

[@largemarty93]

@@Dy0rk the police are after him you melt

[@StoganNZ]

​@largemarty93 any evidence of this?

[@KamOBannon]

The bit about the script Defy used (allegedly) to monitor chats for his name being used , has a lot of weight behind it, because I've seen his name in TONS of random OSRS streams (allegedly) always was curious that he was in literally every stream

[@JMcAfreak]

Yeah. Even when I would stream OSRS to like... 5 viewers tops, I would always see DefyJ in the viewer list. It was really fuckin weird. I think his script is set to lurk in any stream that's playing OSRS, as well as the offline chats of established OSRS streamers.

[@ONESKEBEAR]

Nobody’s gonna sue u buddy no need to say allegedly. U also said it after your own allegation lmfao

[@EladOSRS]

that's not possible, the amount of data that would need to be processed would be astronomical and is quite literally beyond any one persons capabilities. Unless Twitch had internal servers where you could access every message on the platform, and you could query the database for information. The only alternative would be to have a web scrapper, which would cost an absolutely insane upcost, more than what an OSRS streamer can afford. Or unless he has a bot that he contributed to that's insanely popular in the OSRS section that every OSRS streamer uses.

[@JMcAfreak]

@@EladOSRS Bro there are literally programs (such as Chatty) and python scripts out there that let you read multiple twitch chats without watching streams. You don't need a query. You don't need a web scraper. That's why he's PRESENT in the twitch chats. One need only make a script that lurks your channel in any stream running OSRS and alerts you when a certain word appears. You're not processing a ton of information. You're literally scanning the chat for specific words. MULTIPLE PEOPLE have corroborated this. Multiple people have said they've seen him in every single OSRS stream. Multiple people have pointed out how easy it would be to do such a thing. Why are you arguing against this of all things?

[@EladOSRS]

@@JMcAfreakthat just allows you to see multiple chat channels, not constantly scan every twitch chat on the platform like what's being accused.

[@2imps713]

Step 1. Don’t go to a strangers house you met online.

[@loggen3870]

Aye I agree 👍

[@DogScraps]

Weird victim blame stuff here. Is it better to tell a person to not be victimized or tell someone to not be a predator? What's the bigger message? Hahaha, it's such kid brain out here dick riding.

[@chldshflmngo2283]

Crazy how touting common sense can have you labeled as a bigot. 100% correct

[@Vozzed]

We need to make this a PSA for everyone. Seems like too many people are "flying out to meet streamers" without a 2nd thought

[@N-a-s-e-e-f]

There is no way people in 2024 with all the technological advances are just going to random dudes house😂

[@externalboss9404]

I have nothing of value to say on this situation.

[@loladinn12]

Based

[@currentcommerce4774]

based????????????

[@illustrukarma]

Based, same

[@hidde1638]

We just flies on the wall fr fr.

[@SJXN]

Personally I don’t think stuff like this should be posted without some concrete evidence behind it. Not trying to take away from potential victims I just don’t think it’s right. I’ve never watched Defy in my life, just my two cents.

[@aussieherobrine]

why do you need evidence?

[@aussieherobrine]

why do the victims have reason to lie??

[@Panellll]

What, guilty until proven innocent? Pretty backwards isn't it?

[@CoryWowk]

Thats a terrible argument. People lie all the time with no reason or incentive. @@aussieherobrine

[@CptKorn]

My brother, did you watch the video? This shit was covered like 5 times -He has an opportunity to respond -They can't post evidence as it would interfere with the case -This is hannanies way (with help from lawyers) to warn other of his actions

[@StrykaRyker07]

Snap chat keeps everything you sent and with a warrant police can get records of everything someone has ever sent on the app.

[@davethescrub858]

BuT iT's GoNe AfTeR yOu OpEn It

[@Panellll]

Im glad to see quite a few people wanting to see some verification of whats being stated before jumping to conclusions. Im not saying anything said is false but, proof is necessary for something like this.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Exactly!! Does no one learn?

[@Panellll]

@@MeanBeanComedy there are still so many people that want blood just because someone made a video. If dude is guilty then let him face the consequences of his actions but, its alarming all the people who just blindly believe the things someone said.

[@mockies2701]

@@Panelllli mean deleting all of your accounts is very very telling. anyone that is innocent would be saying they would respond or taking time etc. he straight deleted everything.

[@salvest3rr]

@@mockies2701 when you talk to a lawyer they will tell you not to make any statements that's actually the smart thing to do "you have the right to remain silent anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" sound familiar?

[@mockies2701]

@@salvest3rr He's in Australia, the laws are not the same. Deleting everything means he is never coming back, which makes no sense for someone that is innocent.. thats whats telling. if he didn't delete everything instantly then it wouldn't look as bad, because there is no hard evidence. the fact he did without evidence being shown is really not normal for an innocent person. The evidence not being shown was on purpose because there is an active investigation and it could mess it up.

[@silverscreen4522]

I just want concrete evidence. I cannot in good faith cancel someone without proof.

[@Cxntury_]

It is vital that a person remain INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY

[@HUUGAJA]

is DefyJ deleting his socials enough proof for u dumbass?

[@silverscreen4522]

@@Cxntury_ his Twitter is gone, Discord wiped and he still hasn't responded. It isn't looking good for him

[@Panellll]

​@@silverscreen4522with hundreds or potentially thousands jumping to conclusions I could see why. I don't have a dog in this fight, just trying to think critically about it and stay neutral.

[@Mignunn]

@@silverscreen4522not concrete evidence.

[@mitchellburr7825]

Hey big boi, so happy to see you endorse Hannanie's message. When predators aren't held accountable by our community, particularly the most visible members, then we become a safe haven for them. Reacting decisively keeps our community safe, so thank you for that.

[@jimmy13morrison]

This summer my boss choked me at work in front of witnesses and my reaction was to grab him by the colar to push him away. 2 days later my friend called me and ask why i cjoked my boss because one of the said witnesses told him that thats what happened. Admitting to myself that i was a victim was really hard emotionally. And thats coming from someone who had no prior relation and had nothing to lose from admitting it. Coming out against someone who you trusted and is loved by a community you'll lose every before you have time to gain anything from it Thats why people don't come out against their abuser

[@benbrown3862]

This is silly, press charges on your boss. pay cheque was there

[@jimmy13morrison]

@@yeah_mann damn being to stupid to understand the general idea of a comment because its not perfectly written must be rough good luck in your future endeavors

[@everett5600]

After reading this I can tell you had it coming bud

[@jimmy13morrison]

@@everett5600 ill be honest im suprised it took 28 y

[@vlxke8442]

Hes also now deleted or made private 1 month worth of vods

[@loggen3870]

Sounds innocent to me

[@MeanBeanComedy]

​@@loggen3870Any lawyer would say to not make any statements and leave the internet immediately, guilty or innocent.

[@TTK1893]

If this is all true, this is really horrible. But let's be honest. Who the f is going, as a young ''small'' female, to a random dudes house. When she doesnt even has the money to buy a plane ticket home if she needed to run from the stranger? Maybe im thinking to easy or watch to many crime docs/programs. But that is straight up stupid.

[@intermidable]

Parasocial relationships, my guy. They think they know him.

[@OSRSLUVR]

Supported Defy for well over 3 years, shit broke my heart.

[@ValiantNomad]

Yeah just don't blame yourself for any of it because I know Defy will be the type to tell his viewers "You paid me, you supported this" like any sociopath would. Everything is on him for taking advantage of his community. It's sickening.

[@zped4484]

Not your fault mate. You couldn't have known

[@ayraykaykay4958]

@@ZeroPhilosopherdon’t be a dick. How could he have known the dude was a Pdf? We all just want to be entertained on this platform. You can’t always have a full background check on the people you enjoy watching.

[@Siejrjsoplalp637]

​@@ayraykaykay4958we don't even know if he's guilty... its all just based on what Hanannie said. There is 0 proof available to the public. Why do people blindly believe others, has the world gone fucking mad? Shouldn't we wait to form our opinions once the investigation is complete???

[@rR-fq9tt]

Whats why sub gifters are idiots

[@eh567]

If all of this is true, this is the type of guy that appears face down in a river one day.

[@Wiltings]

The online community of false accusers really fucked it for everyone online. Its very brave of those women to even speak about their experiences to Hanannie and approve of it being put online. Not only do they risk of reputation harm, but also physical harm if Defy tries to retalliate. After all, he doesn't just have money. He knows their locations, their addresses, family members, etc. This hits kinda hard listening to this because I was raped by a woman, and she dangled a false accusation over my head if I told anyone. When I eventually came out I was ridiculed and told "it was just bad sex" by people I trusted. And what defy did was frightenly similar to how my rapist used to control me to keep me from speaking out. There's a reason victims take time and courage to come out, and I honestly hope that, if these alleged accusations are true, Defy honestly gets help and the victims of this monsterous behavior are compensated in some way to ease their recovery. Never would I have ever thought something like this would happen in the runescape community... But of course... there are monsters where you least expect them I guess. Thank you Condor for also spreading this, I hope others from the community also use the video to spread awareness.

[@scrungo7610]

Lmao this dude is apparently a super villain on the level of Dr. Doom with all these accusations. RuneScape is some serious shit apparently

[@ArmyHooah1]

Why you supporting something with no proof? Usually you show proof etc but that weird person didn't show anything and neither did this video ? Expected more from you..

[@eldenfindley186]

The King continues to be based af while being an asset to the community. Good job boi and haters stay mad (you deserve it).

[@mpresz1]

not saying he didnt do this shit but this is the same kinda shit they did to Chris D'elia and then found out that although what he was doing was creepy... none of it was illegal. Sorry but i dont like cancelling people without concrete proof. Also this is coming from someone who was victim to SA...

[@maniacmatt7340]

You know what, I'm glad Hannannie organized his bank by color that time she was traveling. This is wild.

[@demon10205]

L0L

[@filthycazual]

@@zachdabawws1010 you're a bot

[@filthycazual]

@zachdabawws1010 who said I believed anything? This is word of mouth bs, I don't even know who Hanannie is let alone believe her... but her pronoun is her, and you clearly don't respect that, so you're just a bot who wants to hate on her.

[@chief3796]

​@@filthycazual *him... also mentally ill people dont have a grasp on reality, not the kind of person you should take at their word.

[@maniacmatt7340]

@@zachdabawws1010 so where is defy explaining his side?

[@StretchyMCAU]

His RS account has been deleted it seems, he is in massive damage control locking down his shit... his actions after Hannahs video are not actions an innocent person would engage in in my opinion

[@StretchyMCAU]

Evidence frogs are self reporters: the standard has to be police/court found evidence from a victim because they know their victims will never be able to provide those things

[@moose_hunter7834]

@@StretchyMCAU hows it a self report to say that if someone is going to be dragged into the court of public opinion, there should be substantiated evidence? If legal authorities are taking action, then it would be wiser to leave it to them and not involve the public.

[@surfingbilly9654]

I don't normally believe these accusations at first glance, but this one i really do believe is true (at least for the most part). No way you can have 9 accusers, 3 state police looking for you and your ex self delete (assuming these are actually true) without being a bit of a scumbag at the very least. If monimu comes forward with her experience (if any) then it would definitely be a nail in the coffin since she does not seem like one of those people that would make false accusations for clout. If she says she didn't experience anything unusual, than it would be very weird/confusing.

[@DeathStrikeDemolisher]

All hearsay from a mentally ill man

[@surfingbilly9654]

lol the only thing that makes me believe it is the police involvement across 3 seperate states and the fact that there where accusations made years before to the police only and not to the internet. Don't know if there is a way to verify this police case in australia but i'd assume that if this was BS that he would've defended himself by now@ihatestans99

[@surfingbilly9654]

normally i don't believe these accusations at first glance but this guy just has way too much smoke, and where theres smoke theres fire imo the not defending himself part is the nail in the coffin, i know i would if these where false accusations@ihatestans99

[@vivejk4443]

who are the 9 accusers tho? it wont harm the case if you show your face

[@kenneth9416]

I play a java clicking game for a living... ill ruin you

[@ahealthkit2745]

So does the person they are exposing as a huge predator. Your point?

[@kenneth9416]

@@ahealthkit2745 You retarded?

[@everett5600]

Lmao

[@kenneth9416]

@@ahealthkit2745 u wear a helmet?

[@frozenphreak7528]

he'll call defy a bigot and anti-trans and get him cancelled on twitter lmao

[@andy.bernard]

Yeah... I'm not defending J, if he's guilty then fuck em but I just hate the idea of putting someone on the stake without concrete evidence first.

[@1CUR5ED9]

Allegedly allegedly. Possibly. Someone said. We heard this they heard that. Where's the actual proof. Stop slandering peoples names with literally zero proof.

[@andrewtanner5303]

Oh dog shut the fuck up, if it isnt true then it will come out as not true. Hopping states and having the authorities after you without posting an explanation video for clarification says a-lot.

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

Look at it like this. He hopped states to evade the authorities, since this video has come out he’s deleted his Twitter, his discord, his KZbin videos, most of his twitch vods,(besides ones recent enough to be monetized) AND he still hasn’t responded to the allegations 4 days in. Whilst we don’t have proof. I think I can put 2 and 2 together here and say he’s probably guilty.

[@1CUR5ED9]

@JustHereForTheDialogue every part of your statement has "if" "probably" or some variation. To convict someone you need solid evident facts. Until then you're just another pawn

[@1CUR5ED9]

@@JustHereForTheDialogue .

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

@@1CUR5ED9 it’s a good thing I’m not the one convicting him I guess. Do you think an innocent person would delete all of his social media in response to these allegations? I dont need to wait for him to be convicted to form an opinion on the obvious. You can go see for yourself. These allegations are EASILY easily deniable as well assuming they aren’t true. So why is he running away from it?

[@SryYouFail]

Where's the proof?

[@ItWazWritten]

When you talk about Hanannie you keep saying She. Is Hanannie a girl? Lol

[@KingCondor]

I don't think it has anything to do with DefyJ and what he's being accused of, try sticking to the point, cheers

[@workaccountworkacc]

condor is hanannie boyfriend and they are dating. its confirmed

[@kaneburns666]

It’s quite dumb for people to expect proof in a video when it’s a legal matter just have to wait for the conclusion

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

I've learned to not judge because of this happening to a youtuber before and it came out he was completely innocent. I wouldn't take any of these allegations as gospel until evidence is unveiled as horrible as these allegations are.

[@pablos8633]

Yep...don't overlook that key word that was said ... Allegedly... Hope it's not true, if it is though then he deserves what's coming to him

[@derigel7662]

you sir have too cool a head to be on the internet please leave

[@vivejk4443]

@@pablos8633if he did do it, why would u use the word allegedly. apparently hainine even knew the victim

[@harrypjotr4987]

@@vivejk4443you always say allegedly when someone hasn't been found guilty in court because otherwise you can be sued for defamation.

[@Based....]

It wouldn’t surprise me if he started streaming on Kick next week, under the pseudonym “Miss Understood”. Deathmatching while high on pain pills.

[@TheDboykiller]

Mans probably on his way to Rumble.

[@MikaHusk]

this comment killed me🤣🤣

[@45Marlborored]

Man this is some serious s***, in this situation one of these two content creators career is over, I feel hanannie should have came with more proof rather than allegations. She could very well face some backlash herself, watching all of this unfold will be nuts.

[@MikeHawkPEN15]

He....

[@demon10205]

@@MikeHawkPEN15 We found him

[@haveaseatsir]

He**

[@haveaseatsir]

@@demon10205found who, the person who lives in reality? Sit down.

[@EnteiFled]

​@@demon10205so based, remember to tell schizophrenics that their delusions are true too!

[@demon10205]

The thing about monitoring every osrs stream for his name being mentioned is crazyyyy lol

[@heise3086]

Again I don’t know anybody in this topic, but without the receipts this comes off almost the same as Ditterbitter’s classic plagiarized hit piece. Will be interesting to see if there’s any development bc I’m not going in Twitter to find it

[@TillerTH]

If he's guilty burry him under the jailhouse, If he's found innocent, saying things without evidence and promoting loss of his followers can be Credible financial damages due to loss of subscribers I don't know how the aussies are but you're putting yourself in some lawyers crosshairs by influencing people to cut off financial support to someone without evidence

[@d76458]

I dont care unless there is an arrest and sentenced. People cried wolf way too many times

[@looseends1270]

Hannanie loves to play Boy who Cried Wolf

[@sine4217]

yep many times @@looseends1270

[@everett5600]

Exactly

[@yakm9557]

@@looseends1270 I don't follow osrs drama what did he do before this.

[@ScyzorRS]

No evidence, not 1 screenshot, 1 witness account, crazy to make a video without anything to substantiate

[@TheCraydee]

And all the simp osrs community are circlejerking when their aren’t any hard facts. All because a video was out out by some he/she person who even thinks her own gender did her wrong.

[@DoubleJVideos]

Don't defend a predator mate. It's not a good look

[@GuyN0ir]

She said there is an actual criminal investigation going on that she is assisting with. No way in hell would they want her to release any evidence that they have, so it makes sense there wouldn't be any in this situation.

[@ScyzorRS]

@@DoubleJVideos So as long as the accusation is big enough, you can accuse anyone publicly of anything without evidence? Also, not defending, mate, just my opinion it's crazy to make this video with nothing but words

[@yakm9557]

@@DoubleJVideos Innocent until proven guilty.

[@Radishboy]

The ONLY thing I will say is sometimes you can go YEARS with someone and not see who they really are. Trust me

[@ITIicroPenis]

source: trust me bro

[@SlickRickTPB]

19:26 dude I always thought he was just farming channel points too until I found him in a stream that was offline for years while I was getting a clip to show someone and I saw him sitting in the chat

[@JCrews]

At this point it's just he said she said, if this is all true.. why not just post screenshots??? This is a pretty serious thing to say about someone. I'm not defending him but if you say something like this it had better be 110% true with the receipts to back it up.

[@ValiantNomad]

Wonder how Defy's program is working now, guarantee a lot of people in twitch chats are exposing him to everyone. Hopefully all the pings he gets, get to him and force him to stop using it. He has to see all the backlash he's getting and he deserves to have to see all of it.

[@themfga5427]

Someone else mentioned the program but it’s called “chatty” a Java program

[@yardpimps8327]

Do we have proof?

[@sol_theguy]

It’s currently under police investigation so they can’t post said evidence without jeopardizing the case. She uses “allegedly” in order to avoid that too.

[@rhycegarner7689]

​@@sol_theguy So we currently, as the 3rd party viewer, have zero proof. These are serious topics, and I can't just take "trust me bro" as a valid source to base any opinions. Making a video with no supporting evidence to the "alleged" claims, while calling the defendant a monster for committing these "alleged" claims is in poor taste.

[@sol_theguy]

@@rhycegarner7689 so you’d rather her jeopardize an active police investigation so you can believe accusations against a serial offender? 🥴

[@derigel7662]

@@sol_theguy id rather her not make a video and just do the investigation. this is a private court matter. keep this stuff off the internet i just want cat videos

[@PrinceOfProtons]

​@@derigel7662 💯 💯 This right here.

[@janjo08]

If that's true... I feel really sad about those girls.

[@Dy0rk]

“Defy is a super predator, but I will show you zero proof” 😂😂

[@dustroys7239]

Ban him and ban Hanannie. Hanannie is in the middle of all drama in RS, it is getting old. This is a hobby for most of us; we dont need someone to be a martyr or an outlet for drama. Ban all of them and move on

[@fivebucks5095]

his rs acc is banned as well now defy juice cant believe i watched him from time to time glad jagex took action so fast

[@Free_BossmanJACK]

Fr? Damn that was quick

[@MikaHusk]

damn they wasted no time

[@penguinchip]

@ihatestans99look at the hiscores you braindead fuck?

[@escape_ffs7552]

@ihatestans99can we get this DefyJ alt banned? Dude is **** riding this predator so hard. Weird being obsessed with a rapist.

[@fivebucks5095]

look up his in game names @ihatestans99

[@Panellll]

11:04 do you not see the hypocrisy in that statement? Proof dude nobody is saying anything about people lying we just want hard facts.

[@CLSgod]

hananniee spends 10 minutes complaining about someone blackmailing people with threats of canceling them then proceeds to try to cancel someone without any proof.

[@filthycazual]

How is a smaller streamer going to cancel the bigger streamer? Isn't Hanannie basically canceling herself if this doesn't go her way? Like, try to think about how this looks...

[@Kaelsiar]

Hannanie is a man who uses female bathrooms, making unsubstantiated claims about another predator. A predator talking about another predator, hmmmm

[@ahealthkit2745]

Can't provide proof during an ongoing investigation. That's why everything in the video is labelled as allegedly, likely due to a lawyer's suggestion.

[@agrape2887]

What part of "ongoing investigation" is lost on your peanut brain

[@jetslizer2570]

cope

[@dzangdzang714]

who cares about any of this honestly. King Condor stay real hope your doing well.

[@SNChalmerstv]

I personally hope this isnt MamaMax PT 2. If you're going to make an exposed video, show Evidence, we all learned how it turns out if you dont. Stories arent evidence. that being said i dont know whoever this "Defy" dude is. but, witch hunting without showing solid evidence is wild.

[@sauron55]

Exactly my thoughts, mamamax turned out a disaster of a case of fakes and lies

[@SryYouFail]

The fact that this is coming from hanannie already insinuates that it's baised.

[@DayZBanditSquad]

0 proof, its kind of sick that this is okay.

[@Akky_Games]

No response, twitter, discord, KZbin and twitch nuked, sounds innocent to me lmfao

[@riqisilva4354]

Hannanie did a video like this about mccune months before that blew up

[@MikaHusk]

they seem to pretty on it

[@empyre249]

Hannanie is a victim no evidence all slander

[@cj33311]

@@empyre249 Bit suspicous how DefyJ deleted all his vods from the past month randomly and hasn't made any statement of his own.

[@draw4yourlife3]

@@empyre249 She's stated on her Discord that she has the screenshots and proof, she probably got advised by the lawyers to not include any in the video

[@MeanBeanComedy]

​@@cj33311That's not proof! Do you know what proof means?

[@sillysam00]

whats the update? is he in jail?

[@Fraysbricks]

Monimu went on a trip to Japan I believe, hopefully she is somewhere safe.

[@Plebanian]

We are blessed to have someone like you in our community! I always go to you for an outlook on any drama in the osrs community.

[@RsCloe]

i appreciate that you kept this on track when people kept saying dumb shit about hanannie, shes helped us (myself and the other victims) in coming out about him, and shes a fucking angel for that. I also appreciate that you made a good commentary on this situation, so thank you

[@adamwoolston253]

Never watched this dude, but I do tend to take things with a grain of salt when there’s zero evidence put up. I don’t think the standard of proof is or should be “I don’t see any reason to lie about it.” Obviously there’s reason to lie about it when it’s a large and apparently wealthy streamer. Doesn’t mean they are lying but there’s certainly reason to. That said, obviously if this is true, he needs to be in prison. Not “professional help,” not therapy, prison. It’s doubtful that a scumbag like this even can be rehabilitated, and even if they could, why risk him doing this to more people? Prison.

[@lilpope535]

"if someone's like im gunna kill myself if you leave me, do it." - KIng Condor

[@93z32]

The last part about him being mentally ill is truly a “pot calling the kettle black” moment. Did it happen? Allegedly. Guess we will find out. Are both of them in serious need of professional help? Abso-fucking-lutely. Rather ironic to us rational thinkers.

[@alexleroy8498]

This shit is weird as hell but I think there is an important tangential lesson to take from this. Weird people are always going to exist but I think some of this hate comes as a way to deflect from our own lives and make ourselves feel better about not doing shit like this, rather than genuinely caring about the issue (of course, these are not mutually exclusive). But that’s a flawed mindset because we shouldn’t be assessing ourselves against the bottom of the barrel, we should be actively trying to improve our own lives, constantly. Don’t get caught up in drama and become complacent just thinking “im good because I don’t do weird shit like this.” Tl;dr for some but took 35 seconds to write, and not directed at anyone in particular, just the perspective of one zooted motha fucka

[@Panellll]

Yeah, often when you don't like someone it's because you see flaws in them that subconsciously you know are similar to your own.

[@robmckennie4203]

the thing about providing solid evidence, as she specicially brings up in her video, is that it puts the victims at risk

[@yardpimps8327]

Does defy have proof?

[@blackwng]

hanannie just as sus or creepy lmao

[@BigPoppa-Monk]

We'll he's a guy pretending to be a female.

[@francisbalfour1243]

Far too desperate to be seen as a hero to go ahead of an accusational video of not just small drama, but major crimes (aggrevated rape, possesion and supply of illicit drugs, false inprisonment etc) without showing proof, and before anything is proven after being told by lawyers and police to not make a video.

[@xtornbeast]

@@francisbalfour1243 Also, is it a man or a woman? Because people are refering to it as a she, but it sounds like a he to me...

[@francisbalfour1243]

@@xtornbeast biologocal male, hennanae is trans

[@xtornbeast]

@francisbalfour1243 yeah just knowing that alone makes me trust him less lol

[@montanathreehunna]

Ty for covering this if this is true hopefully Defyj goes to prison.

[@JJ-en7dv]

do australian police not collab over states? when i lived in new york the new york police and pennsylvania police worked together many times to track down criminals

[@2147B]

get off the internet and learn how world/countries and states work pal. Man knows osrs drama tho

[@eprimchad2576]

​@@2147Bwho gives a fuck about australia lmfao

[@plinketharry7469]

Yes they absolutely do collab over states there's almost zero chance he is evading police for any substantial period of time. If he hasn't been locked u then it's because he hasn't been charged with anything yet. What's most likely is that they have asked him to come in for a voluntary statement which he's has avoided.

[@erikstrand9876]

it doesnt work with every state. florida and north carolina do not work together the same way florida and georgia work together. They typically do what you mentioned with their neighboring states and that's it.

[@JJ-en7dv]

@@2147B bro back off the steroids getting mad at someone asking a question lmaooooo

[@puffinondasticky]

he sounds at home in new south wales from what all friendly jordie has talked about.

[@TYy-n4m]

I always got a predator vibe from him whenever I would watch Monimu and he would be in the chat or vc for the group iron.

[@brucewayne7187]

My favorite line of video." Do it! Go on!"

[@johnnobon]

I dont know who the guy is, never watched him and probably still won't. I'd like to believe someone like Hananie wouldn’t risk their whold career just to get a shaky accusation out, but I'd like to see more solid evidence. I do not know any of these people or what their deal is so the best way for me to get onboard is to see as much verifiable evidence as possible. I personal think it's likely that there is some truth in this, but if i was asked to make a judgement I wouldnt really be able to at this point in time.

[@vivejk4443]

haninne didnt risk anything. he literally said allegedly like a thousand times which means that defyJ could be proven innocent as well

[@Mignunn]

There should be evidence of him skipping states and him being wanted, right? Or is Australia not like that? If hannanie is wrong can we cancel him then instead? ONLY if he’s wrong. If he’s right, then fuck defyJ. He deserves jail time if the accusations are TRUE. However, someone who’s turned off his social media like this is NOT automatically guilty. He should be allowed to do it.

[@bassamelamin577]

if you're referring hanannie as he, then her pronouns are she/her

[@xvvxvvxvvx4804]

@@bassamelamin577 😂

[@Mignunn]

@@bassamelamin577 i dont give a flying fuck what his pronouns are.

[@MariusNinjai]

Felt more like an emotional reactions video from the original guy and not acutual evidence they say

[@MariusNinjai]

also these weird pauses to add dramatic effect is weird

[@badfriends5206]

America doesn’t have walls between every state lmao

[@jacobjones1849]

It’s hard to tell who is doing psychotic shit even if you talk to them, are friends with them, or stream with them.

[@bleepblop2897]

You mean to tell me the weird creepy freak was a a weird creepy freak

[@PlonsterOSRS]

Hey man, I just want you to know your videos are the best rs ones. It cheers me up in recovery.

[@CoryWowk]

i second this. Best RS content creator for my money.

[@lep1ski]

king youre the only one that didnt sell out for viewbots and gambling money

[@jordanclarxon6246]

What are you talking about?

[@Tedious1]

People like this spend a lot of time filtering out the people around them so that only people who put up with it stay around. My kids mother is just like this. Anytime she would be called out on her shit by one of her friends she would just ghost the entire friend, make up rumors to get other friends to dislike them, and cause so much grief that they just disappear. She pulled the "don't leave or ill kill myself" card many, many times even faking an overdose. The amount of work people like this do to make their inner circles work for them is exhausting.

[@TheLeftReallyWeird]

Got damn there is so many professional victims here 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Jomonji]

Respectfully, if the alleged accusations are true, Defyj doesn’t just need psychological help, he needs prison. What he has done, allegedly, are full blown crimes and pretty horrendous ones too. Sexual assault and battery, false imprisonment of another, and distribution of illegal substances are no small crimes.

[@francisbalfour1243]

If true it's far beyond sexual assault. That's aggrevated rape.

[@SukottoSama]

after years and years of hearing a tv playing in the next room playing shows about predators, rape, and murders it makes me sick to see that someone in my subscription list is using this content this is not healthy material for anyone and if he is a predator there are better ways of dealing with this

[@MicrowavedFurby]

I know that people are complaining about the fact that she didn't present any evidence but you need to remember that this is a legal matter. She specifically mentioned that there's an ongoing police investigation. I don't see why she would put her reputation on the line over something as serious as this. It's not like this is her regular type of content and her video isn't even monetized. Sometimes you just need to get the ball rolling and more will start coming out.

[@neodruidic5539]

Yeah if he would've provided evidence or something but it more of a he say she say bs

[@neodruidic5539]

I didn't watch the rant video all the way through but to long of a video just get to the point. No break down

[@MicrowavedFurby]

​@@neodruidic5539 Except that he hasn't said anything. He didn't deny any of it. He just put his chat into sub-only mode and started deleting tweets.

[@ahealthkit2745]

@@neodruidic5539It's not the content creator's fault you have the attention span of a goldfish

[@BTWAIDS]

Yeah, I haven’t even watched the video yet, but I know they’ve hung out irl and shit. I don’t really see her just throwing a friend, irl, under the the bus like this if she wasn’t pretty sure. :/

[@MassaBroshi]

In the video, Hannanie literally talks about ongoing legal proceedings, keeping him from divulging all details and how the video is just him making sure this is known by the community. It's like some of you are deaf.

[@DeathStrikeDemolisher]

Mentally ill man makes accusations with no proof. Allegedly i hear hanannie is a chimo and i wont release proof because

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

@@DeathStrikeDemolisherwhere did defy’s Twitter go? Where are his KZbin vids? His twitch vods perhaps? You people are clowns lmao.

[@DeathStrikeDemolisher]

@@JustHereForTheDialogue you smoothbrain idiots don't fuckin get it. He probably talked to his lawyer and his lawyer probably told him to while they go through the steps he needs to take to defend himself from the tranny army

[@DeathStrikeDemolisher]

Also hannietranny is an alleged child abuser. No proof but its real to me

[@Handcannon77]

Pretty sure no one is asking for "all" of the details/evidence. Im not sure if you understand how the justice system works but, the copout of "well he cant reveal anything because its an ongoing legal case" is completely bogus...if there are multiple ongoing legal cases against him, and he has been arrested and charged, then that should be public record and is information that can be obtained as evidence. Mind you, thats at the bare minimum of what can still be shared as proof without compromising any case against him, im not sure where some people get this idea that ZERO evidence can be provided because there is (allegedly) cases against him. So its in rather poor taste to belittle others intelligence, when you sound just as clueless as you claim the people youre talking about are. Words you speak anonymously on the internet are not evidence, or "proof" so this Hannie dude can claim these things, but its not at all unreasonable for people to expect some sort of evidence to be included. That being said, if the allegations are true, there is no "helping" pieces of shit like this, predators such as this are very often narcissistic sociopath's. The only way to ensure they dont hurt anyone else ever again(or worse, escalate their behavior...which would be guaranteed to happen if they are never stopped) is to lock them up forever. Personally, I think if someone is a serious serial predator/abuser/manipulator such as this, I think they deserve even more drastic measures, but thats just me.

[@Akky_Games]

Looks like his discord has been wiped, does that say something?

[@xp33dozx]

i dont get osrs drama, its cringe. It is also stupid to meet ppl from internet off the back. Famous or not, who gives a crap.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

I want to see proof. He says he has some receipts he can't post at the moment, so I will be eagerly awaiting the time when that comes to light, and withholding my judgements until then. I'm not sure if anyone has been on the internet before, but this would not be the first time something like this was made up, nor would it be the first time it was true.

[@yoga9161]

Explain why DefyJ has deleted every single vod on his Twitch, and deleted his entire Twitter page then, if he was truly innocent he could easily have proved it, instead of going completely dark

[@EnteiFled]

​@@yoga9161they can pick apart any statement he makes in court, lawyers would tell him not to do that and to get everything together. no point trying to stream through it for money either. dude has like 200 average viewers, he's not gonna make anything streaming in the midst of a scandal like this lol.

[@ItzYaBoyMeech]

easy people spamming hatefull things and threats on every video tweet and vod are better off not interacted with. he wont change there mind replying to them when there's already no evidence actually provided and there's a official investigation going on that will either prove him not guilty or guilty@@yoga9161

[@Duzzii_]

Monimu is so innocent 😢.. somebody needs to report him to the fed

[@CianaCorto]

Why mention monimu?

[@rR-fq9tt]

shes gotta know@@CianaCorto

[@limpyleg1570]

How much you wanna bet tasty don’t say shit bout it

[@Irishslag]

Avg, 7asty is an absolute weirdo

[@maniacmatt7340]

Why wouldn't he? Do they work together?

[@janjo08]

Tasty got some predator vibes IMO, not saying he is, but guy gives me that feeling.

[@Irishslag]

100%, his interactions that he recorded with females gives off sus energy@@janjo08

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

Tasty is a freak.

[@TheDboykiller]

No problems with Hannanie. She's a big boi.

[@daltonsnow5855]

The guy narrating the video you watched sounds like the biggest cringe lord i've ever heard lmfao

[@Sniper200g]

People will try to tell you that's a she lmao

[@ThManHimself]

Can someone explain to me why Hannah included that part in the middle-end that she says "This is all made up, this is all a dream". Why was that part included?

[@KingCondor]

I believe it was to mock the people who would doubt the video and the claims

[@beckyquenneville4068]

Disbelief

[@mynamesnotdavid]

It's usually used as a more meme-like way to say that, at the moment, everything being presented is allegations and shouldn't be taken as fact.

[@ThManHimself]

@@KingCondor For me, it just confused me into wondering how much of this was real or not. To be clear, I currently fall firmly on the side that Defy is a shithead, but in the moment while watching the video talked about in this video, that part just served to make the whole thing more confusing than it had to be.

[@daltonhayhurst8501]

She deleted all the comments blasting elliop when he commented in a cuckhold.

[@jcallii]

Where's the evidence? Alot of allegations and not one drop of evidence.. Not a defyj fan fwiw.

[@JMcAfreak]

If what Hannah says is true, and there are active police investigations, revealing any proof/evidence in a KZbin video would jeopardize the investigations. A lot of people here seem to have selective hearing about that. She ran the video by lawyers three separate times in order to even say ANYTHING, and by her own admission that means what she wanted to say isn't as strong or direct as she would like.

[@ONESKEBEAR]

1:14 u gonna pretend that’s not a bloke?

[@Viperwon]

I knew this dude was a weirdo after clicking on his stream once

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

Was waiting on this bad boi.

[@Duzzii_]

If he didnt do anything wrong he would of been streaming like normal . Clearly doesnt want to reveal his location

[@benjaminpotae4082]

Local police can escalate to AFP or work together with other state police to capture and bring people back for prosecution

[@sawce4031]

This is also what confuses me, our police are very good at this

[@Anndraaaa]

I don’t understand how his friend group never stepped in and said something and or did something about this .

[@Duriel123]

Finding this comment a month later. I've been part of a friendgroup. Where there was a person manipulating everyone. That person is now a comfirmed narsacist and a jealous person. But at the time where things were not so obvious. We had a friend group of 6/7 And most of them woman. I was the only guy for a little but. Eventually i wasn't, but thats not important For context. We were together as a friendgroup alot. We chilled, played games, went on trips. Etc etc. 2 of the woman knew eachother for about 15 years. And were friends for the same amount of time. Wat we didn't know is that one woman i'll call her L And the other one called Z Was manipulating the other one. (L manipulated Z) But while that was going in. L tried to push away L. While L didnt have many other friends, and is not a great communicator. We never had the feeling there was something wrong with L. But we did see that Z was acting really strange. We couldbt talk to her about it because she would explode. And eventually we gave up on talking. The thing is. Z wasn't the problem here. But we all perceived her like a problem, because she was causing everyone to walk on their toes. While it was L actually working on this behind the scenes. Eventually a fight happend. And there was a divide in our friend group. I took L's side at first. Believing her to haven't done anything wrong. But after a year, everyone noticed that the truth was rarely seen in that statement. It wasnt until me and my girlfriend experienced the same situation with her. That we finally talked to Z about it. And finally, everything came out. With proof and answers nobody could've given us. Right now we finally understand wat happend, and the whole point to this story. Things are not always as they seem. And eventhough you can be convinced to be 100% right. You can still pull the wrong rope. Sorry for the spelling😅

[@Duriel123]

Push away Z* i fked up😂

[@RuneWiz]

Glad to see the community united on this. Awareness is key. Stay away from this dude until the facts come out.