This Sceptic Isle - Peter Hitchens

Full documentary presented by Peter Hitchens about the history of the UK's relationship with the EU.

[@sam8290]

Not a voice in the wilderness, though the BBC would like us to believe he is. Top man Peter!

[@ggff3761]

Alan Bates he is though, I love him and find him an extremely interesting voice but his Puritan stance on many things is definitely a voice in the wilderness

[@sirhumphreyappleby8399]

Russ Gallagher - well if he hasn’t been such a clot he may have become leader, alas he opted to spout off to try and advance his career. That’s my own, as well as Peter’s, view.

[@MeMyselfAndEyez]

Why would they? The BBC toed the Tory line and were pretty much pro-Brexit

[@stewartdowbiggin2337]

This is on BBC

[@Ostricht199]

Not joining the euro was such a wise decision.

[@rumourhats]

A stroke of luck, to be honest.

[@lesadams647]

@@rumourhats Yes. The Government tried to tie Sterling to the Euro (by the Exchange Rate Mechanism). Influential speculators had a field day and drained the UK of several billion as described in the video. THAT was only a couple of billion. The Withdrawal Agreement threatens to take £ 39 billion from us while we have an NHS in crisis and homeless people on the streets, drug addictions etc.. There was an exchange rate agreement between the EU and Switzerland (not an EU member) and each time the Euro fell below a set rate against the Swiss Franc, the Swiss National Bank would buy Euros and in that way the Euro was being supported by Switzerland. In 2015, the Swiss had had enough and, without warning, would no longer honour the "peg" as it was called, numerous trading companies had relied on this "peg" and lost millions and a company called Alpari (UK) Ltd, went bust.

[@rikardschumacher178]

Now to complete the excision. BREXIT!!

[@timpo1m]

@Stouffer spot on ... proponents of joining the Euro were thankfully ignored. Monetary policy dictated by the European Bank, entering to fix he exchange rate atthe wrong stage of the economic cycle (ask the Spanish, Italians and Greeks about that one). It's all a stale European construct which will fail. Recent expansion to 27 states total madness. Overarching federalist ambitions of jumped up institutions so transparently laughable.

[@wendysalter]

Mrs Windsor probably stopped that - it's her royal coinage

[@susancurtis1651]

Thanks Peter Hitchens for that excellent review which was helpful and informative.

[@petergill9269]

This Documentary should be shown on TV non stop until we get out of Europe !

[@aktolman]

I like the singing at the joining the EU party: "when we join the eec, you will see fantastic changes in our community" Got that right - everything is now f**ked. Unaffordable housing, massive strain on public services, continual social tension etc

[@haydenbarnes5110]

There was a worldwide financial crisis in 2008

[@davidiand7]

And the destruction of our fishing industry.

[@clemalford9768]

And massive uncontrolled immigration and all controlled by Merkel and her lackeys.

[@sweets1964s]

I thought the same thing! And the worst is to come!

[@rumourhats]

This should be required viewing for every member of Parliament.

[@jimbembridge8133]

I like peter he believe in our country he speaks the truth as it is respect to him

[@hazzawheats3496]

Some great songs on this documentary

[@jamesmurillo144]

His bro Christopher was the only Hitchens that will go down in history. Peter starting to impress me lately tho

[@OldglenSea-cw4ps]

You must remember, Thatcher was the most unpopular PM EVER, until she initiated the 'Falklands Campaign' and sought the help of the evil media (Which it still is!) to help her out. The murderous slaughter of the young Sea Cadets on board the unarmed ancient WW2 ship, The Belgrano, was lauded and whipped-up by the media until the people were convinced it was right to have sunk it. The Labour party put the hippy, Michael Foot, in as leader to fight her. He was the worst choice they could have made. She became even more popular and more savage!

[@grayarcana]

May’s Brexit is not the end of our subservient relationship with Europe. It is not the beginning of the end. It is not the end of the beginning. It is not the beginning. What is it actually?

[@seanmoran6510]

This helped me see what the EU really is and I acted accordingly via the vote

[@yonsi7]

Australia,New Zealand,Canada and the US will remain together as the UK greatest friends and they will do trade with each other and they will not die ever,and Israel will joined them and sane minded countries,no refugees,forced immigration and open borders etc,they only bring n problems because they are not the same color,religion,culture etc,but to eventually domain the country in years to come,due to you know how hiihi

[@stoney139]

Frank Smith SPOT ON, 100%!!

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Stumbled upon this great documentary so much i never knew about those times leading up to the lunacy we have in 2023 now. Why did we deserve such incredibly foolish and stupid leaders?

[@juliantaylor2223]

How interesting that Hitchens is now advocating the Norway model for the UK after Brexit that means membership of the single market. Hitchens knows the disastrous economic effects of a hard Brexit. Hitchens like most sensible and reasonable people wants a very soft Brexit.

[@seanmoran6510]

Julian Taylor I really think you need to listen again!

[@andynew2]

And we all know what Heath meant by "this great enterprise".

[@markmcg293]

What is the classical music piece in the beginning?

[@jamesmurillo144]

The BBC

[@ocevicheband502]

How appropriate,opening with M.Nymans theme for "the cook the thief his wife and her lover"!!!🙃

[@guardianangel6926]

He starts by stating that the sovereignty of the UK Parliament must be protected!!!! Please take note Brexiteers!!!!

[@Longshanks1690]

@Guardian angel If only our MPs agreed and weren't constantly trying to subjugate Parliament to the EU. You people only pretend to care about our institutions because it serves your interests due to it being packed with Remoaners. If it actually did it's job, you'd be it's most vocal opponent.

[@guardianangel6926]

@@Longshanks1690 You are of course entitled to your opinion, but there is no evidence, absolutely nothing, to support it.

[@Longshanks1690]

@Guardian angel First of all, please stop liking your own comments - it's really quite pathetic. Second, it is not my opinion, it is based on the incontestable fact that Parliament is trying to subjugate itself to the EU, against it's own principles, and the wishes of it's electors. And that the support for institutions like this is flimsy, at best, to those on the left who see them as a means to an end is beyond dispute. But if facts were the domain of the Remoaners, we would already have left.

[@guardianangel6926]

@@Longshanks1690 Parliament was elected by the people. Parliament is what makes the UK a democracy. The suggestion that Parliament does not represent the will of the people is completely illogical populist nonsense. Right from the start the advocates of Brexit never had a plan. Ever since the last GE they have been blaming everyone but themselves for their own incompentence.

[@Longshanks1690]

@Guardian angel What kind of childish nonsense is this?! Have you never heard any jokes about Politicians before, heard people say, WELLLL before Brexit that they are all self-serving, out of touch people who don't care about their constituents and only about getting elected again? Do you not remember the Expenses Scandal? This is an incredibly common sentiment on both sides of the political divide because that is how Politicians are characterised, and how people feel about them. Your idea that because they are elected that they actually represent their constituents is complete hogwash. But if you want to characterise one of the most popularly held ideals of the past five centuries as "populist nonsense," you do you I guess. And what do you mean "a plan?" We want a Free Trade Agreement with the European Continent, broadly speaking. No more, no less. It's the Remoaners who had to complicate everything with insisting "No HaRd BrEXiT!" and demanding to stay in the Customs Union and Single market, thus not actually leaving, as well as maintaining Freedom of Movement and the supremacy of the ECJ over British Law. None of those things were what the 17.4 million voted for. You accuse our "incompetence" as the cause of this but the REAL cause is MPs not doing the jobs they were elected to perform and deliver the greatest democratic exercise in the history of our nation.

[@KKTR3]

Great program Peter , but look where we are now , we left EU but the Left still In control

[@ocevicheband502]

Oh my! ☺

[@righteousindignation8879]

Monty Python, is that you?

[@hitlercat9357]

Septic Isle now

[@trevorfowler1]

The section starting at 12:00 and ending at 13:45 made up my mind on which way to vote. Proof of plans for an EU superstate as early as 1970 which have been hidden from the UK public.

[@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED]

This should be made a more high profile for the general populace.

[@Malcolm701]

I don't imagine the BBC would broadcast this today.

[@kronossonork6994]

Malcolm Browning True, considering the EU is cracking down on every negative article over the last decade... We cannot even exercise our right to access information in the public interest anymore.

[@brianthesnail2460]

Malcolm Browning I was going to put that I imagine lots of people have said same

[@gwiz1267]

Definitely wouldn't now

[@jamiejack764]

Sad but true

[@MCshlthead]

Hahaha the BBC just can't win

[@get2rog]

Even as a child I never saw Major as a leader. Just a slimy little man who slipped in through the back door by default.

[@briananderson3799]

get2rog - The Rt Hon John Major. The Bride in the Bath, Moralising, Back to basics grey glove puppet. Just one in the long line of Westminster Traitors.

[@stephentaylor2119]

He ran away from the circus to join the bank! How could anyone trust such an idiot!

[@greyandblue4323]

Whose back door? Not someone with the initials EC by any chance.

[@philster611-ih8te]

@D JL No, it's Britain that is destroying itself.

[@lescorlett4133]

Isn't that what Edwina said as well? Mmmm ... these peas are nice Norma.

[@VincentRE79]

Fascinating documentary that every Remain voter should be made to watch.

[@ralphvandereb66]

correct sir

[@frankday1234]

I agree,.They' might find the experience traumatic, but considering all the fuss they've caused the rest of us, I have no sympathy for them.They'll just have to get over it.

[@PeteWoodcock]

I agree, but it will never happen, your average remain voter would turn it off as soon as they saw HMS Victory

[@antonclark3420]

Peter Woodcock lol... so true...

[@philster611-ih8te]

You mean every Remain voter should watch to see how wrong one particular journalist can actually get to be. Peter Hitchens was never as smart as his brother. BTW how's Brexit going? Still a catastrophe.

[@dandonohill]

As an Irishman I say God Bless Peter Hitchens..He tell it as it is and has great vision.We will always be neighbours and I want to see England do good . That means independence from EU

[@thomasweldon8333]

Light_n_Fluffy sadly after 800 years of oppression that will never happen but as neighbors we wish you well

[@seanmoran6510]

@@thomasweldon8333 Yes the English have been oppressed fully agree with you ! 1066 😢

[@revol148]

@dandonohill my belief in the decency of the Irish remains fully intact after reading your comment !

[@stevencarson9228]

England?

[@stevencarson9228]

How did that go? 😂😂

[@BillyBronco73]

Peter Hitchens work is always interesting and thought provoking. He puts the arguments for and against in the historical context.

[@byronelenica8329]

Th clear evidence - the smoking gun - of the stitch up as shown in the archive papers by Peter Hitchin, must be shown all over the internet.

[@darksharkrafa1]

If there ever is a second referendum to overturn Brexit then this documentary should be televised again for a whole month up until the vote.

[@andrewcheshire7846]

Do you really think the BBC would air this today? there is more truth in 10 seconds of this film than there is in a week of their current news output

[@clemalford9768]

and this kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmOZeIFsp7aVkKs

[@samuelcarnall309]

Yes, along with a rebuttal for everything he says and a follow-up detailing the actual consequences of leaving

[@Siegetower]

Enoch Powell was right. About so many things.

[@tr3vk4m]

Bring it you fucking closed-minded, culturally bereft Neanderthal.

[@tr3vk4m]

Queer?! Haha are you from the 1800's or something? Get with the times, grandad!

[@tr3vk4m]

Siegetower Eradication of white people? Ha ha you sound like a pathetic fucking Nazi coward!

See above......

[@tr3vk4m]

Arc Light Once again, you have added nothing to the conversation. Obviously too thick.

[@flachi32]

I see nothing but good in being independent and self-determining, and anything that Blair is for I am against.

[@99IronDuke]

Good documentary. Britain must vote leave to the UK in June.

[@nevermind824]

And we did it!

[@roundduck7005]

what a surprise May stabed our nation in the back

[@whyter11]

We did. Corrupt government isn't going to let it happen tho.

[@philster611-ih8te]

@@whyter11 Thats because they realise that leaving the EU is going to send the UK over the cliff. Why are leavers so slow to see this?

[@whyter11]

@@philster611-ih8te Cliff only exists in your head. Supposed to go over that cliff if we even voted for Brexit. Big crash. Didn't happen. You NPC's believe everything you're told by the mainstream media lol.

[@Terry-xf5pt]

Brilliant should be made compulsory viewing for the REMOANERS!!

[@5ynthesizerpatel]

he has some rather harsh truth bombs that explode the wilder delusions of the brexit mob too.

[@bobsmith6693]

you don't stand alone peter. I haven't heard anything from you that I disagree with, its just a shame that we have never had anybody in government with any moral fibre. KEEP GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT

[@gofmjhhytgr2129]

Brilliant video, all brexiteers should make links to this, on every post on every site.

[@FannyShmellar]

Loooool how’s that going? What a disaster 🤣

[@GavinFreedomLover]

Ted Heath makes me feel sick !!! for more than one reason.

[@BobFarnell]

Until I saw this Video I could not stand Peter Hitchens Now I will go looking for more

[@KKTR3]

He is going a bit bonkers as he gets older

[@abbamanic]

A fascinating program, now if the BBC showed more of these, if school educational administrations dared, then we'd have had a more focused political debate about the pernicious cancer in the body of the UK which is the EU.

[@briananderson3799]

Trance State - our kids are now taught that an 8 year old boy can now have a menstrual period. If his dad is a Turkey Baster. Small wonder he has mental problems.

[@MeMyselfAndEyez]

How is Brexit going for you?

[@belindathorne9784]

If a school showed the other side of the coin the same people would be talking about indoctrination.

[@takosangbalongkumer9919]

I am not a british person but i enjoyed every minute of that

[@shirleymason7697]

I, here in the U.S. of A., want the UK to stay out of the EU.

[@DieFlabbergast]

"Stay" out of?? You mean "get" out of!

[@madzangels]

Hi Shirley, As promised, please see attached revocation of Article 50. We're out. Kind Regards, The United Kingdom.

[@paulconnelly4050]

Well, your country, the U.S of A., greatly helped to launch the EU. Thanks a bunch.

[@davewarwicker2512]

BRExit was a miracle when you think we ONLY have fake news.

[@Tridhos]

Shirley Mason Yeah I gather that Trump and Putin are the only two world leaders that want the UK to leave the EU. Seems the best reason for staying in it if that orange idiot wants us out.

[@susanmitchell5317]

John E Powell had foresight. The best PM we never had.

[@gemmakane9728]

Great post. Does anyone know when it was made/broadcast?

[@UKConservativehome]

Gemma Kane I found this: genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/dcd0b1a40dad43c192e4da9aaf9facc8 not sure of its accuracy.

[@gemmakane9728]

Thanks-I'd say that's accurate.

[@peterhitchens4240]

Gemma Kane 2005

[@gemmakane9728]

Thanks. That afro picture is wonderful by the way:)

[@pandaonabus]

+ElPocho DelMundo At least is says at the end of the programme (MMV)

[@Mike-tb5gj]

Isn't it strange that Enoch Powell - a straight man, with the highest morals, was always painted as a racist and xenophobe....whereas, Heath, the fat old paedophile, was praised by all those who were for the EU.......all those who had the same perverted tendencies.....all sick old pervs.......they must have known about the fat old "grocer" and his liking for young boys......but nobody said anything.......pathetic, scared and immoral sub-humans.

[@gofmjhhytgr2129]

Enoch was a visionary until he joined the Ulster Unionists, then he just became a sad old fart in the eyes of many.

[@Waterford1992]

Vote Leave

[@Saddamuel]

We did!

[@meestermeesterhastings.3159]

@@leslierainford9525 We voted to leave and if they say we will have a second vote then we will have a civil war the 1% that run the show from the shadows win every time because the system is rigged.

[@leslierainford9525]

@@meestermeesterhastings.3159 system rigged lol ,I think we will be punished , I love my fellow Europeans but I know it's system controlled eu banksters

[@philster611-ih8te]

@@meestermeesterhastings.3159 So you would incite violence if you don't get your own way? The majority of the population wants to remain in the EU. Yet you promote violence? Prison for you sonny .

[@seamonster936]

1984: When the Germans still pretended as if the French were an equal partner in this.

[@wendysalter]

Scream, sigh, pass into depression. I always knew there were too many knots that won't ever be untied, they're all paid for, signed and delivered by traitors to this land. B.....ds

[@lancashirelassnowupnorth191]

Excellent history lesson, thank you.

[@derekreynolds2072]

This documentary should be re-released on national television. Can you see that ever happening? It was on BBC4 back then, it should be back on today in late 2019 - every 'remainer' made to watch. Well done Peter Hitchens.

[@AnaxofRhodes]

The United Kingdom is debatably us Americans' strongest, closest ally. We share so much history, such a strong foundation for free society. Sticking with the E.U. will mean dependence on a federation I cannot support. Please exit.

[@WeAreWafc]

This has convinced me. Britain needs to get out of the EU before it’s too late.

[@rikardschumacher178]

@dan west It's a BREXIT and a wrap!! Goodbye superstate, Hello Freedom!

[@philster611-ih8te]

@@rikardschumacher178 Guess whose still in the EU? Hows that brain fart of a Brexit going?

[@glendakirby5579]

@@philster611-ih8te I shall return later, Victorious!

[@philster611-ih8te]

@FemboyGandhi Ready for the cliff edge? A few more weeks to go.

[@Arborist5851]

It sure doesn't feel like a victory..

[@sylviawernicke2326]

Blair was a slippery self-serving traitor right from the beginning - & he has not changed.

[@looloowhiskey]

we did it chums!

[@biscuitsalive]

Richard Nixon sort of

[@albertrogers4130]

yes, Nixon, we did

[@clemalford9768]

And still waiting until October 2019

[@clemalford9768]

@Samwisegamgee The Brave Until 31st Oct isn't it?

[@Tuffydipstick]

Hopefully on Halloween!

[@cornwallgeezer]

Thanks, get out now!!

3 years on and we are still negotiating we voted out out out but they the left want another vote losers

[@paulmiles6012]

"Brexit" was never a left or right issue... it was about Right and wrong"..... Why can't we all get on as single, independent constitutional states??...

[@keithlynch7239]

The EU is a an administrative and bureaucratic establishment which makes laws to distribute and regulate markets. It is a structure to protect the wealth of the established elite and to regulate everyone else. We are all European idealists, but the EU is very far from the ideal of what Europe should be.

[@bluewrenreilly129]

Very well done Peter Hitchens even though incidentally you lack the undeniable dubiously seducer's charm of your brother, but I like you better.

[@keelanobrien6018]

"An unloved Tory government ran a discontented country with a small commons majority" - 2:30 Why does that sound familiar in 2019?

[@clareswift604]

I would love to see all this but with coverage of the last 10 years - This is a MUST watch for EVERYONE

[@lesadams647]

That scene when Heath signs the treaty is like that of the Senate in Star Wars ("Revenge of the Sith", I think)...democracy died to rapturous applause. The UK should leave and NEVER be part of such a project ever again. It has lost us money, time and effort from our domestic issues. Charles deGualle was doing us a favour when he said "Non!" to our membership. The question remains: Why were politicians SO keen for us to join the Common Market? (Did Britain contain forces that were too un-ruly? Did they see it as a way to overcome the divisive influences in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Spain?)

[@KiljiArslan]

A prophetic film. Really should be required watching.

[@ralphvandereb66]

the voice of reason from a self proclaimed remainer, thank you sir, one has to love peter hitchens one of a rare breed, noble educated savy and honourable.

[@susanjackett9268]

That's a lovely comment, salute . Its nice when remainers act courteously toward Brexiteers. We've one locally who seems to go around trying to find them and then be downright rude and childish toward them! Thanks.

[@luckyWabbit75]

LIke his brother, Peter Hitchens is a genius.

[@NoFaithNoPain]

+super-lucky-wabbit Peter Hitchens is a rabid Church of England non-secularist. Not a shadow of his brother. He is right about immigration and the EU whereas the Hitch was unfortunately further down the left wing plug hole despite being non PC and delightfully atheist.

[@luckyWabbit75]

+NoFaithNoPain Not a shadow of his brother? Nonsense. He's much more articulate than his brother; I agree with Christopher about religion, and with Peter on all other things. While Peter's logic for a faith in God is entirely shaky, his judgement on all other matters completely outclasses his late, great brothers.

[@NoFaithNoPain]

super-lucky-wabbit Peter Hitchens is more articulate? His faith in religion is of course utter nonsense and shows his logical thinking is biased, but I can't believe you think Peter Hitchens is more articulate.

[@luckyWabbit75]

lets agree to differ.

[@toiletfriend420]

+NoFaithNoPain ahahahahahahaha "rabid" "delightfully atheist" what words. i've never met anyone whom i've myself appended delight to their zeal but i guess i myself don't enable the zealous

[@mmcclean8791]

Leave means leave

[@MisAnnThorpe]

I preferred him when he was in Oasis and spoke with a Manc accent. This is what happens when you hang out with people like Tony "Blood on his hands" Blair.

[@josephmaxwell5033]

I grew up in this period and although I am now much more informed, I was carried away with it all back then. I became an avid European and ECC stalwart. Being in Europe helped Scotland and gave us Scots a buffer against Westminster Rule, which we hated like any slave hates the yoke that binds them. It truly did balance the equation, especially after the Gerrymandered First Scottish Referendum for Independence. I still look back and say, how the hell did we accept that way of measurement and the full criteria of the referendum. Now however, in balance, I am happy that the type of constraint applied was successful. The SNP of today has a manifesto that’s a shadow of the true independence that we wanted, not taking off one yoke and putting on another much bigger one.

[@davidiand7]

Excellent documentary!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@stevespencer4045]

Powell right again!!

[@joer2513]

Holy shit, Pink Floyd Great Gig in the Sky kicks in at 2 minutes at Hitchen' commentary of the lost Britain in the 70's, I couldn't ask for anything more//

[@PomBare]

As I learnt on my visit to Oxford; the brightest minds have the crappiest bikes.

[@1stclaret]

Splendid! Thanks for post

[@robertjamison1463]

Tony Benn must be turning in his grave at the actions of his son.

[@steliopolskie]

this has gotta be atleast 15 years old considering the bbc aired it and it wasnt completely slanderess

[@JoseWhon]

We're OUT!!

[@albertrogers4130]

@Straight White Male October the 31st (cmon Borris)

[@glendakirby5579]

Not yet,but soon.

[@jonesy66691]

A great story of lies and betrayal.

[@charliehinde2982]

24:10 I can't trust a guy named David who doesn't watch Top Gear on Dave. I trust Hitchens though

[@coyftigers8928]

Wow this was on the BBC ? wow again

[@keithcarter9396]

well said, a very well presented history of EU membership and the ramifications of same. Food for thought.

[@rct3terminator1000]

Good news Lads! Britain has voted to leave the EU! This country is now well on its way regain its Independence and Democracy! Lets just hope the Anti-Democratic forces from Outside and Within don't try to undermine it!

[@rct3terminator1000]

***** Yes, that's why I said we should hope they don't try and undermine this result. If Theresa May starts backsliding, we need to be able to hold her feet to the Fire!

[@Jc22222]

I wish people who care so mch about democracy would be just as outspoken about the unelected chambers that control our law making in this country. But the masses care about what they are meant to care about.

[@j.cheeverloophole9029]

@Straight White Male Indeed, i said at the time it would never be allowed to happen, or if it did it would be first watered down to homeopathic levels of efficacy

[@MisAnnThorpe]

@@j.cheeverloophole9029: So did I. In fact, so confident was I, that I actually bet a friend £20, that it wouldn't happen and I NEVER bet! I'm expecting to get it back anytime (very) soon though!

[@scobra6652]

MisAnnThorpe Way things are going, no one's cashing in.

[@makjac46]

Did I hear it right? The Bank of England belongs to the EU?

[@wcstevens7]

Enoch Powell was right about mass immigration and Europe.

[@chickennugget6654]

Enoch Powell was a racist bro

[@clonmore819]

Well done Peter - a timely reminder

[@HondoTrailside]

Sadly, at this point Peter no longer cares. He didn't vote.

[@user-dm3xm7jw9s]

Thank fuck we voted to leave!

[@revol148]

58:53 that comment has not aged well and I speak as a former leaver turned remainer

[@andypdq]

20.57 "Have a drink have a drive, go out and see what you can find" LOL, how attitudes change.

[@timothynoble816]

Good riddance TED...What a wanker...He sold us out...!.....

[@pcka12]

This reminds me that I always thought Heath was an idiot!

[@christophermckeon9030]

This was posted in 2015 and had not a single soundbite from Nigel Farage? The fella who brought Brexit? Boi.

[@garylynch9206]

This is around 20 years old or more

[@studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272]

when will you learn to be the Britain the world loves and admires ? When will you learn to be the Island of bloody awesome and stubborn individuals ? Powell was a hero - the voice of truth as we see clearly since 10 years !

[@Dabhach1]

The Westminster parliament is a "trusted institution"?

[@susanmitchell5317]

John Major was a smug git.

[@tomwheeler5861]

a fitting soundtrack

[@garypowell8638]

EU membership is similar to the gay rights movement in this regard. Once gay people obtained gay marriage, employment rights, and a reduced age of consent, they no longer needed to be allied to the Labour Party, as part of its rainbow coalition, and could then choose a party which better reflected their economic, cultural, or religious interests. The same with the EU, once trade links and all that goes with it were established, the EU could not longer offer trade as a carrot, however erroneous that carrot actually was from the start, and is now only left with threats back up by the stick. The people rightly ask. As very little or none of this apparent extra trade is going to be affected to any serious level, what exactly is the point of The EU, and why are we expected to pay over vast sums of money to remain a member of it? As well as a whole long list of other related questions. So they earnestly, repeatedly and ever more desperately, ask these questions of passionate Europhiles expecting a rational reply, but NONE emerges, but completely irrational sky will fall down stories, that you would not insult your own young children's intelligence with. They can't make a positive argument for continued EU membership, while the smart people of Europe increasingly suspect that the reason for this, is that, not even one credible reason exists at all, and likely never did. Or worse, if a compelling reason does exist, these disingenuous crooks, dare not tell the people what it is. When a situation like this is allowed to persist, then the time is ripe for certain kinds of conspiracy theories. Which may at first seem absurd, but as time goes on, ever more become, the only narrative that can possibly make any sense. Has May's life or liberty been threatened, at some time? Has she, and other key members of her cabinet, been made respective offers that none of them could refuse, so to speak? Because there is no other credible explanation for there actions. Our leaders and owners, better be very careful right now, they are treading on thinner and thinner ice, and the water could be very deep, as well as cold.

[@MrTchindele]

As someone from the Continent that lives in London, I hope(I pray) that YOU British will vote out of Europe. For the sake of Europe.

[@ulicadluga]

Napoleon is seen as a liberator in many European countries, even on other continents. He emancipated many people's in his empire, even issuing his liberal Jewish homeland plan in 1799. Starting with the earliest Norman rule of Britain, the Kings, Knights and Barons were all about the exploitative administration of their vassals. Now Britain is lumbered with the ancestors of those murdering and coniving "royals" that really underpin unelected power structures. Britain is the pariah state with unelected power, grim and unjust bureaucracy, taxing the poorest most. Not Europe. Look at the unelected House of Lords where cronies are appointed by the ruling parties. Look at the loopy judges, certainly not elected by the people. Look at the some of the highest indirect taxation in Europe, consumption taxes that hit the poorest most. Be aghast at the failing health service and the demonstrably cruel benefits system. Look at the out of control racist police force, the cover ups of "cash for questions", the Hillsborough scandal, Grenfell. See the waste of public money by unelected bureaucrats, the grotesque Trident upgrade, incompetencies with Crossrail, HS2. Observe the lies and manipulation of the pro BREXIT campaigns. Britain is the "Trouble" with Europe. Constantly blocking social legislation. Really, Europe is better of with Britain removing itself from European decision making. The EU is imperfect, but it is has been around only half a century and will reform and improve. Britain, on the other hand has been on a constant decline for the last 100 years, stuck in an authoritarian, class-ridden zombie state in which it slashes about between incoherent social and economic policies, not to mention the Northern Ireland and Scotland issues.

[@kronossonork6994]

Tony Benn Margaret Thatcher John Redwood Hugh Gaitskell Frank Field Michael Foot Peter Bone Peter Shore Bob Crow Enoch Powell David Davis Nigel Farage Jacob Rees-Mogg Nadine Dorries Esther McVeigh Gisela Stewart Shailesh Verma Nigel Lawson Norman Lamont Just some of the best minds in politics who believed in Democratic Sovereignty.

[@proudtobegrumpy4969]

If only the actual withdrawal wasn't ballsed up by people not fit for public office........

[@drfyel6980]

9:48 music?

[@JandLmagic]

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