Peter Hitchens: Is Post-God Britain Beyond Saving?

[@williamlewis1515]

Well done Elizabeth! I think that Peter is always worth listening to but not always easy to converse with. You produced a very good interview.

[@margueritespringer3687]

Gosh I'm pleased I wasn't the interviewer in this dialogue. He was not an easy man to interview :) Well done to the interviewer

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thanks very much for listening! 🙏

[@richardlancaster9078]

I would feel privileged to spend time with Peter Hitchens. Very interesting man.

[@JimJamJuicy]

@@thesacredpodcastyes very well done. Peter’s honesty sometimes sounds rude but I like him he’s very straight forward and you did very well with this. Got my sub 👌

[@thesacredpodcast]

@@JimJamJuicy thank you! 🙏

[@Loehengrin]

Was it difficult? He seemed to give some very fulsome answers, even if they were quite unexpected. ​@@thesacredpodcast

[@autumnleaves2766]

I love listening to Peter Hitchens, he can seem a bit contrarian at times, but he is always interesting and thought-provoking. I agree with him about the loss of order. I was born in the mid 1960s and there still seemed to be order in the 1970s and 1980s. Things have gone crazy in the last 25 years or so, today we appear to live in an age of collective insanity. It does all have a Biblical end-of-days feel to it, a battle between good and evil.

[@hmq9052]

He'd be on the side of evil though

[@mjc8364]

Congratulations on a wonderful interview. It's probably the most I've seen Peter Hitchens smile in any interview he has taken part in. I think he liked and respected you despite your stylistic differences. Indeed it made for great viewing.

[@thesacredpodcast]

@@mjc8364 thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@greenleaf7777]

Excellent interview Elizabeth. It was very interesting at how you cannot get a person to reveal themselves when they don’t want open up. However, you combined a deep respect for Peter’s privacy with an obvious diligence of studying what he has already publicly revealed to create an intriguing conversation.

[@jansongunn4214]

One of the many feats of your interviewing style is that it enabled you to source and extract smiles out of Peter Hitchens

[@jansongunn4214]

Oh my gosh you got him to smile about happy clappy church and speaking in tongues! When I heard you are open to this I followed immediately! Well done, your style is wonderfully refreshing!😊

[@patrickselden5747]

Fascinating conversation, Elizabeth! Thank you... ☝️😎

[@chrissi3193]

Elozabeth is doing a fine job here. Peter sifts questions very quickly, and doesnt mind being contrary and difficult. Shes very good and empathetic, perceptive and well able to adapt her thinking..impressive!

[@manusha1349]

Peter is a public intellectual par excellence! ✨️ He has a colossal intellect combined with deep humility and a clarity of vision that's almost prescient. He can be quite taciturn though, well done to the interviewer for keeping a sense of levity. Great interview! 👏🏽

[@romeisfallingagain]

"look at all these words i dont speak"

[@manusha1349]

@romeisfallingagain the Resentment runs deep within you, doesn't it? How long have you been living without Hope because you know that you're incapable and incompetent? (And probably impotent) ....

[@manusha1349]

@romeisfallingagain "look at me, impotent and living without hope of ever leaving my mothers basement" 🤣

[@romeisfallingagain]

@@manusha1349 are you projecting? you are making alot of baseless assumptions.

[@RonCopperman]

Great interview. Glad to hear his story to faith. 1:02:03 "That is where I would sit." Cracked up as you were outing yourself. And then he talks about happy clappy and the speaks in tongues! Your reaction was priceless. Q: Would you like to pray? 1:02:32 "Nooo" (...like him: )

[@thesacredpodcast]

Will live in our minds rent free for years to come!

[@RonCopperman]

Lol !​@@thesacredpodcast

[@BibleVerseMusic]

This was a most excellent listen. You have a new subscriber Elizabeth, absolutely great interviewer and came across as genuine. Peter is a interesting man and his journey back to Church is hopefully an inspiration to many more. Thank you

[@RMarshall57]

As usual, a great conversation Elizabeth. Not many people can make the kind of connection with Peter Hitchens that you seemed to here. By the way, the director of the film Freud's Last Session spoke in an interview recently about how he, through this film, is trying to encourage people to have more conversations, and more mutually respectful conversations, across ideological divides. I think he may well have contributed to that in the film. I would love to see him (and maybe Matthew Goode, who plays CS Lewis in the film) in conversation with you!

[@yaboibunsen363]

Great interview. At the beginning you were nervous to counter him but by the end you were openly challenging him in a respectful way. Hes an unwilling subject but not a hostile one. Mostly.

[@Ruminator]

Really thankful for the overall tenour of this podcast. Love the episode too. Reminds me of a quite by the church father Ireneaus of Lyons: “The glory of God is man fully alive.”

[@christoffersjogrentrombone3913]

Thank you Mr Vanderklay. You are my " go to" when I need new input in my thinking on the internet. 🙏✝️

[@JosephusAurelius]

Peter is one of the big reasons I reconverted to Christianity. He’s very often a prophet and is akin to mustard: you either loathe him or love him. I’m the latter!

[@thesacredpodcast]

Lovely to hear! Thanks for watching 🙏

[@zeno2501]

Me too. I love Peter. He is misunderstood by many, I think. A very deep and gentle man.

[@julianchase95]

@@zeno2501yes… and I hope God utterly wraps him in love and dissolves all his prickliness, wounds and defensiveness

[@albertito77]

@@julianchase95ha ha I think that will happen in the purifying fires after his death making him ready for heaven.

[@JayJay-wg5ex]

i don't loathe or love him lol but he's great

[@StephenSpeakman]

Very thorough going interview.I very much hold Mr Hitchens view on traditional family. Thought provoking.

[@izzwizz2094]

Loved this…..he s a prickly character but you drew him out from behind his armour. I have always found him fascinating, love his brain…..he’ll hate this but now i’m a bit fond of him too, have subscribed 😊

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thanks so much! Really glad you enjoyed the conversation 😊

[@Vince-um5nq]

I’m a huge fan of Peter. He always seems an unwilling participant when he’s being interviewed about himself, every response he gives comes across like he’s trying to disagree with the question and shut down any flow in conversation 😂 but you did a great job nonetheless

[@thesacredpodcast]

It was certainly a clash of styles, but there was something almost enjoyable about that... thanks for watching!

[@benphilips9918]

There is no such thing as a two-way conversation with Peter. He likes to talk at people and have them listen to him. He's a awkward so and so and gas no wish to be put under scrutiny.

[@NornIronMan.]

Very enjoyable interview. Peter seemed to enjoy it too. I'm embarrassed to say I've visited Beaune and I can't remember if we went to see that picture. I'm sure we probably did but it doesn't stick out. I don't even drink wine either but the snails tasted surprisingly nice.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Our beautiful Elizabeth thank you for attending unto our OWN! Love you too! Without shame but with boldness! Yes, thy shared "i" AM beautiful came with sincere conversations given just for thee! Obviously sincere answers will be given. Reason my Time liken unto my messenger sent forth! Before HIS COMING VISITATIONS

[@benbeasant3443]

Peter is one of my favourite people. A rare person of depth in a shallow, materialistic world

[@kevingiblin4122]

Love listening love listening to Peter he's always worth listening to😅😊

[@MarcInTbilisi]

Yes Peter! My biggest fear as a parent is motor traffic. Luckily, here in a small village near Tbilisi, Georgia, my children get to cycle off into the fields and have fun, unsupervised. It's still scary but we allow them anyway.

[@hyweldda56]

Yes, he is a nightmare but brilliant and incisive and speaks the truth in a direct and blunt way.

[@upendasana7857]

"speaks the truth"? he speaks his own opinions ina direct and blunt way,and thats not necessarily "the truth",only in his own mind maybe.

[@pedro3474]

😂😂😂

[@pocketjeffs]

I don't get people who hate because they disagree with him. I disagree with a lot of his views but I love to listen to what he has to say.

[@neil5872]

"You don't see many modern day Last Judgments" ,lol, mic drop etc. well delivered.

[@albertito77]

About faith, I think he makes a good point that most people don't need a set of syllogisms to make them Christian. In fact they just won't work. It's through narrative, art, poetry, music-- the whole person! If you are a Protestant then a non-Woke church that offers the BCP is a good place to start.

[@joanneleeson516]

I really appreciate you interviewing Peter Hitchens. Thankyou for this Elizabeth, I enjoyed it a lot.

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnyoungman5865]

Peter Hitchens, you look great!

[@lindontilson471]

Hes a difficult man to interview but a national treasure nonetheless. You did great 😊

[@willhemmings]

Elizabeth has more patience than I can give here. I switched off at 5.41, after Elizabeth asked, could Peter say what truth and justice mean to him?; and he dismissed the request by answering lazily, 'Not really no, they seem to me to be quite unmistakeable'

[@lynntrovert2471]

That's exactly where I almost shut it off. But I continued and Elizabeth gave a master class in interviewing. Her skill at holding open, patient space for him, despite his antisocial choices, was impressive. I'm not a Christian but Christians like Elizabeth makes it a very attractive way of life to me; hence watching this type of content.

[@paulallen1497]

This was a great interview🙏🏼

[@xedasxedas]

Not that you need my approval, but i'll give it to you anyway: you did good. Nice interview.

[@vizveebee]

Lovely traditional schools where we had our Christian assemblies, and particularly the public schools had the best Christian teaching. Me, I was ordinary secondary modern, but yet we can hear the wonderful knowledge that comes back into its own when boys from public schools came to really believe, later in life: C.S. Lewis, Derek Prince, Bear Grylls [he didn't like it, but he knew God was real] and Douglas Murray has that great knowledge of the old style bible teaching, although Douglas calls himself agnostic.

[@alsoascot02]

Jings true Christians went to public schools? Who knew? The traditional religious institutions of the UK didn't loose their potency to some new dangerous ideology. They were increasingly revealed to be hollow, hypocritical and absurd. Folk rejected them well before they subsequently largely chose to up and die. Like folk stopped standing for the National anthem, folk stopped going to church because it no longer seemed relevant, the institutions just didn't command the automatic respect anymore. If you are looking for place when the rot started many would point you at WW1. The Establishments, including the churches support for and prolonging off the entirely unnecessary slaughter of an entire generation saw many see through the hypocrisy that lay at the heart of Christianity in the entirety of Western Europe. God is with us, Gott mit uns etc was everyone's claim. Well the dude himself seemed strangely silent in the face of suffering etc. it had really always been thus of course but industrial war exposed many millions to a new reality. And WW2 further undermined religious belief. And I have to ask of all l those talking about and lamenting lost Christianity in the UK how many are regular attendees? How many know of Daniel, Samson, Solomon etc of the parable of Jesus etc. And how many are lamenting something they actually know naff all about. They just don't like a lot of what they see around them anymore.

[@Ty-nm6qb]

Love Peter, but everytime he would disagree with Elizabeth's question and characterisation of an episode in his life - the next words out of Peter's mouth would be the definition of Elizabeth's characterisation. All Peter's push back and recoiling at Elizabeth's questions and analysis of his life is indicative of a desire to humble himself, to rebuff any notion that he or his life is exceptional; it's why he downplays everything to do with himself. Peter gives off an air of self-righteousness, but, personally, he is really quite self-effacing.

[@kateknowles8055]

Thank you for a helpful guide to listening to this. Luckily I got to this comment before I settled down to listen. We sometimes move among people who are seeking easy answers or an easy answer, or people who are not seeking beyond immediate need or beyond immediate pleasure. But we can choose listening to this instead. Then we may have a mission in this motley materialistic time.

[@Enhancedlies]

can i just say, i am new to you but the way you handle Hitchens's unique honesty in his answering, is commendable? I am very much enjoying the chat, though bringing memories of his talk on Alex Cosmic Skeptic...

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thank you! Really appreciate it. Anything in particular stand out to you?

[@Enhancedlies]

@@thesacredpodcast I thought you came across with honesty and the way you challenged without a sense of righteousness. Hitchens is really interesting to listen to when he is relaxed and you got a great deal of interesting opinions from him. I have never heard the Lenin Maxim which was 'take the bayonet insert it, uh if you encounter a mush continue to push if you got a steel try somewhere else' ... there was a lot of mush around' I will be watching your discussion with Haidt soon - if you can handle Hitchens then it deserves some respect haha

[@julianchase95]

⁠@@EnhancedliesI felt terribly sad for Peter watching that car crash of an interview… I was one of the vanishingly few people who commented in part-defence of Peter in the comments section. O’Connor could absolutely have cut the tape and entreated him to a peace, and either continued the interview, or not published the confrontation. It was massively self-serving for him to have published it, a rising figure with a “gotcha” of an established figure. I felt then how wounded and vulnerable Peter must feel a lot of the time.

[@Plotinolycopolino]

​@@Enhancedlies Alex had laid a trap for him. Into which he fell.

[@Volcanic47]

@@Plotinolycopolino I don't think Alex laid a trap or had any malicious intent prior to that interview, but his misreading the signals given by Hitchens to move on showed a lack of interview interpersonal skills in his part and his publishing it against Hitchens wishes was in part to defend himself against Hitchens posts on twitter. All in all neither side looked good, Alex should have handled it better reading the room, Hitchens should have responded better too tho. I still like both of em tbh.

[@bluj78]

Hitchens is comically unreasonable. I very much appreciate his opinions but find myself cracking up at times because he's so polite with his stubbornness.

[@maxf841]

Enjoyable interview.

[@ClassicsandChristianity]

Really enjoyed this interview. It is very interesting listening to someone so disagreeable. I think there is a lot of oversharing nowadays and I liked his value of privacy. I agree with Elizabeth that our lives are not cliche, though it made me reflect on my own teenage political journey and the ways on which it did and didn't fit the pattern.

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thanks so much for sharing! Really glad you enjoyed the conversation 😊

[@benphilips9918]

He prefers talking to people rather than engage in two-way conversation. He's not interested in other people's opinions.

[@bigtaraniello6876]

I like you both. I don’t think either of you come from too different a place or can see much contrast in what you both believe. Peter is a good man. He’s come from a position where he has come full circle. He’s a natural contrarian. But a kind soul. I read his book, rage against god, and you did a good job asking questions on what he wrote, but he almost wants to disagree with himself at times. Great job. 😉

[@anitachisnell8412]

Loved it how Peter said,‘ not quite right in the mind’. I think he was being very kind and gentle there, lol! My thought was if he wasn’t being interviewed maybe he would have not included the word ‘quite’, lol.😂

[@neil5872]

Hope too hear more from PH

[@kateknowles8055]

This is comment 191, and Elizabeth Oldfield has been reading all of them, so we had better find ways of making fewer and more important comments. Well done with being able to interview Dr Iain MacGilchrist. I am date stamping this so that people can observe a growing number (of visitors:26K by 2024 JULY 12)

[@Phessington]

Peter Hitchens really is a National Treasure.

[@martynblackburn9632]

He really isn't.

[@engageonline9912]

I can save you all the hassle of watching this, (I have not watched it either) AND I can tell you that Peter will say it is beyond saving and he is 100% correct

[@SagaciousFrank]

That isn't a cliché anymore, broken homes all around, and most people dont appear to think they've made a mistake.

[@carolinenorman6141]

A teacher threw a book at me in religious class and called me a heretic I wish I could remember what I said it was 60 years ago. I probably didn't know what a heretic was .IVE been a believer since I was 18

[@KnoxEmDown]

Throwing books at students is not good at all :/

[@theFijian]

You did a great job here

[@PaulDean125]

Unless I'm mistaken, the question in the title doesn't appear to have been addressed in the conversation. A pity.

[@Pastaface]

I really enjoyed Elizabeth's PH trigger warning. I wonder how many of us love him as much as we love her.

[@johnharrison8857]

As a “born again” Christian I am fascinated with the experience of others when they speak about becoming a Christian….Peter’s brother Christopher was clearly anti God and anti Christ and Peter clearly rejected this view….Peter often refers to “returning to the Church” but many people do that but still seem to lack a personal experience of knowing Jesus as a personal Saviour….I wonder if Peter has had such an experience and if so where can I find out more about it….in a book or an interview??? My heart warms to Peter Hitchens……

[@Volcanic47]

I can't see many readers feeling reassured after reading Peter HItchens articles. I may agree with a lot of what he says, but they are generally all of a pessimistic outlook into how society is going. He has such a wide array of opinions too that I'd imagine it's a rarity for readers to agree with all he has to say. That said, he is a much better writer than speaker, and he can be a great speaker/debater at times like in some of his question time appearances, other times not so much.

[@Osafune2]

Peter should attend an Orthodox Church

[@AlanE555]

Great interview

[@aamerali1498]

It difficult but very good inetrview to listen to.

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thank you for listening!

[@pentsmethodology]

Great channel. Just found it. Subscribed!

[@thesacredpodcast]

Welcome!

[@ponderingspirit]

Please interview Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad (Dr Timothy Winters) of Cambridge

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@Philip-w6g]

Yes, similarly I saw a lifesize copy of a painting of the Last judgement; of a faceless Michael Angelo holding his face in his left hand in an agonised expression standing on the edge of hell at a university art sale. He seems to look down at one s own soul in warning. Thank God I was a sturdy Christian otherwise I would have been complety spooked beyond my mortal idea of reality until I was driven to think similarly whether in fact the concept was just a medieval concept or a universal truth being expressed. I was too disturbed to buy it and have it hanging on my wall everyday, but maybe it would actually have been good for my soul and my visitors. The painting Victory of the Ressurection would have to be have been next to it though.

[@Mark_Dyer]

If there is an "English Chartres" [46:00] then that title has to go to the Trinity Chapel of Canterbury Cathedral: not to York Cathedral. Chartres' glass is characterised by a luscious use of deep reds and blues: and the Becket Windows at Canterbury reproduce that, wonderfully. Even the modern windows by Ervin Bossanje, continue this vibrant tradition. The problem with speaking of wanting 'justice' within the created order, is that human beings (including Jews and Christians) are prone to repay God's compliment, by making him in our own image, with our conception of 'justice'. Many churchgoers (the majority?) seek to reify, or even weaponise, the Decalogue, or the 'lex talionis', to demonstrate that their concept of the 'Iusticia Dei' is sound. But Jesus of Nazareth (who seems to get little mention here) skewered those conceptions with two, thoroughly biblical sayings, which emphasise the goodness and justice of the ONLY One who is Holy: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone", and "the Sabbath is made for man; not man for the Sabbath". Contemporary society, let alone the Church, tends to find those two teachings rather difficult to 'take on board'.

[@NeilOB9]

Brilliant interview, one of the main reasons this interview didn’t go wrong is because you gave it no opportunity to (no offence to Alex O’Connor, I don’t think his interview was that bad, but it wasn’t perfect either).

[@FoxyFox999]

The question relishing a reply. Should it be saved ?

[@maxkyrus]

Interviewing Sam Gerrans would be a wild one

[@julianchase95]

How I wish I was Mr Oldfield….. :)

[@upendasana7857]

This man is beyond supercilious and very full of his own rightness or discernment that he so often puts himself somehow beyond "other people".He seems to put himself somehow outside of others and to me there always seems to be somewhat a disconnect between his "intellect"which he seems to have supreme confidence in,his own that is and his emotional life in some way.I don't know,I can't quite out my finger on it but there is some lack of coherence,an unwillingness I feel often to be truely vulnerable or open and hiding behind a rather pompous intellectual personna. I know there are alot of judgements and subjective opinion of him there but theres just something I do not quite "believe",that doesn't ring true or honest and that he sues intellectual arguments and ideas to defend himself against any further scrutiny. Its hard not to think there is something very deep inside of him that he is trying very hard to defend himself against. I can never warm to him even though he calls himself a christian and presumably believes in redemption and taking into account our own "sins"and frailities and finding forgiveness and love etc but I would enever ever entrust myself to his scrutiny as he just seems to be without compassion and seperate in some way from everyone else. The most vulnerable and real I think I have ever seen him was on the programme where celebrities went into prisons and lived with previous prisoners ina kind of mocked up prison scenario and found out what had happened in peoples lives to land them in prison.As I remember he seemed genuinely moved and let down his guard it seemed for a short moment. The thing I have an issue with Peter is he is often invited onto programmes or to comment on things which he himself does not have direct expereince of or work in that area whether its the NHS or education or issues like addcition etc and he gets to speak in abstract notions of what he thinks should be done when he himself is not at the rockface,not say a doctor,nurse,teacher,social worker,prison officer or even politician who has to work in practical solution focused and direct ways to hopefully "make the world better". I do not know really how he has managed to have this place as such a great "public intellectual",he is deeply eurpcentric in his worldview and seems to know very very little about countries and cultures and perspectives which are absolutely at odds with western worldviews,theology etc. He just seems steeped in this colonial type mentality and version of English Christianity,parochial.

[@food4thort]

He said in another interview that he returned to religion because he preferred order over chaos. I often wonder if he is actually a cultural Christian rather than a true believer.

[@Birdy890]

I would certainly assume he's not the latter, but of course that's for God to judge. I do hope he's saved and his articulation about the painting 'moving' him is what makes me think he's indeed saved and understands the gospell. The 'trouble' with him is he's very closed off. Not that I blame him one iota but I suspect the personal things he refuses to go into also occupy his faith. I think his flat refusal to pray is an example of this, I can't put my finger on if it's pride or if it's just his more virtuous trait of not wanting to appear pious or holier-than-thou. Either way he's admirable and a good force no matter how 'pessimistic' he may come off as.

[@RonCopperman]

I think he's quite genuine... the Last few minutes actually reveal his real position. It's hidden in the laughter between the both of them.

[@plumjam]

Bit of a grumpy old fart was Peter, in this one. Not sure why he accepts interviews if, as it seems, he'll spend most of the time being a bit of a closed-off curmudgeonly bore. He was much more interesting 10 years ago. Maybe time to retire altogether.

[@toby_fred]

Jonathan Haidt and Peter Hitchens? That is a very impressive canon for a channel that typically gets sub 1000 views per video. They can clearly see the value in your content and in your soul ❤️ keep up the good work

[@toby_fred]

And Freddie Sayers and Ian McGilchrist!

[@thesacredpodcast]

Thank you! We came a little late to KZbin so are building our following here slowly. But have been around the block since 2017 in podcast form! Really grateful for these brilliant minds giving up their time to come on. If you haven't already, definitely recommend watching some of those other interviews you mentioned!

[@toby_fred]

Excellent. Thanks for your response, too. In terms of the 7 deadly sins theme, if you haven't already covered Greed I would wholeheartedly recommend trying to get Gary Stevenson on.

[@thesacredpodcast]

We did an episode on avarice (the word I use in my book) with Caroline Lucas, so unfortunately taken. But Gary is a great suggestion either way for a future episode!

[@toby_fred]

@@thesacredpodcast that's interesting - from what I hear the Greens have just adopted Gary's economic position in their manifesto verbatim. Thanks for taking the time to respond and I'll keep my fingers crossed with regards an episode with Gary 🤞

[@oliverjamito9902]

Time come here in front and remind! LORD for the who am I and principalities who deceiveth and murderers sitting in high places unseen nor seen in front of thee!

[@motelghost477]

51:02 Unknowable to YOU, not unknowable to me. Some of us can see much further.

[@dylan3456]

Why does he always seem annoyed to be asked anything in an interview? He agreed to be interviewed, didn’t he?

[@oliverjamito9902]

Forgiveness, salvation, and the Redeemer sitteth. Judgment and justice come here in front and remind! LORD thy Seat! Will visit all who am I casting thy Judgment and Justice! Time

[@seanmoran2743]

It’s a pity he called one of he’s book journeys in Mordor while travelling abroad When Mordor was The Worst Aspects Of Modernity in the West

[@paulfroelich1024]

Being cliche is fine. Originality is overrated. See Chesterton's Orthodoxy for details.

[@oliverjamito9902]

What is truth and justice? Unto all puppets Who am I? Pawns from these principalities who deceiveth and murderers sitting in high places unseen nor seen exalted themselves above! Don't belongs sitting! The SON OF MAN HIS ANGELS WHO PERSEVERE AND HEARD THE WORD WILL SAY, unto all these principalities left their habitation. Exalted themselves above! Remember HIS TIME LIKEN UNTO HIS MESSENGER SENT FORTH! For Thee! Just know I HAVE LOVED THEE! BEFORE VISITATIONS

[@expressoevangelism80]

Oh yes a lot of injustices, unfortunately mankind doesn’t have the wherewithal to administer justice fairly. Ideologies based on humanity are fine in theory. Applying Christianity is the only right and fair way.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Visitations will say, ye all exalted! Made HIS HOUSE A REBELLIOUS HOUSE!

[@baruchasriel1948]

Stupid government in UK and Church Pastors Who has no sense of responsibility for the congregation's Christian faith from the influence of the other religion .Indeed I am from Muslim mayority country, very sad and disappointed in UK.Learned from RAMSES PARAON ,who did not want his nation to be dominated and influenced by other nations.Everyone has written in Bible. 😢😢😢🙏

[@motelghost477]

0:20 Jesus is right all the time. So I'll only listen to Him.

[@JayJay-wg5ex]

hes amazing

[@JayJay-wg5ex]

the interviewer is unbearable, she is unaware of her narrowness, i grew up anglican and everyone talks like that, like on a set of playschool, an australian show for children

[@littleboots9800]

​@@JayJay-wg5explayschool was a fixture of British childhoods too. "Let's have a look through the....ROUND window!"

[@SagaciousFrank]

Peter I have time for, his late brother, not so much.

[@crockmans1386]

Hm..... both speak the truth , clearly , and back it up logically. Two very fine writers, journalists.

[@SagaciousFrank]

@crockmans1386 CH supported all that is now wrong with them modern world.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Wait a little our little precious NEW Minds Sons and Daughters! Have no fault of their own! Living in a REBELLIOUS HOUSE!

[@junevandermark952]

I relate to the words of Mark Twain GOD … a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice, and invented hell--mouths mercy, and invented hell--mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people, and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slave to worship him! -No. 44, The Mysterious Stranger Mark Twain

[@junevandermark952]

@Bach-mvz1938-s8g I agree. If a god exists that is judge-mental ... it should be judging its own nasty behavior of BEING judge-mental. "Given a choice between creating humans who will suffer for eternity and not creating the human race … I would simply not create them." Author … Mike Siler

[@jd-gp3nf]

Please don't put up your picture when speaking off camera. It's both distracting and very annoying. You are a great interviewer and do not need this little trick and please keep in mind it's not a good trick just annoying.

[@joerinaldi9291]

Evensong is reason enough to get back into church.

[@FabulousHandmadeJewelry]

Did he stand up and leave?

[@shrunkensimon]

Harking backwards to religious beliefs of demonstrably corrupt institutions is not going to cut the mustard. We need religion alright, but it has to combine what we know from science and the rise of individualism that honours the individual at the centre of the mystery (and not deferring to morally bankrupt authority). Religion should not be used as a prop to hold up a cultural system that honours neither man nor nature. That's not its purpose.

[@piushalg5041]

Show me any institution who is free of corruption. And I would assume that you do not want to eliminate the state and its primary institutions. 😊

[@alsoascot02]

​@@piushalg5041while the state may choose to deliberately ignore its own corruption and hypocrisy it doesn't usually claim divine authority while doing so. Claiming to know the mind of God (their particular God of course) is religions biggest problem. The absurdities come from assigning authority to self bootstrapping Theism not belief in the divine itself.

[@KnoxEmDown]

Shrunkensimon: What you've suggested, if I understand it properly (forgive me if I don't), amounts to little more than self-worship with a bow of scientism plopped atop the packaging to make it palatable; There's more than enough of that in the world already, and it has been absolutely wretched. Wiser men than us have worshipped themselves and found the act lacking, returning backward indeed to ancient truth. As for culture: It should worship God and venerate all good things which He makes and, certainly in the case of humanity, restores.

[@KnoxEmDown]

​@@alsoascot02 As regards the Christian religion, a Christian claims only to know what has been deliberately revealed by God; Christendom does not, nor has she ever claimed to know the fullness of His mind. Such a task is considered beyond the power of we mighty dust specks to achieve. On this, Alsoascot, you've been misinformed.

[@alsoascot02]

@@KnoxEmDownsorry convenient self serving sophistry doesn't change the reality. Revealed means what? In this context it's just another word knowing? Revealed how? Through scripture? That needs interpretation? By who? And what if others don't agree and it "reveals" something different to them. They are wrong because? ALL revelation boils down to interpretation or "knowing" the mind of YOUR God. Who surprise, surprise thinks like you? Uninformed? I suggest you look to take the log from your own eye before you comment on the speck in another's.

[@graceonline320]

I wish he had gone into spiritual things much more than he did. He circles around but never dives right in.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Pop Hitchens should the SON OF MAN replace old hands to be made NEW HANDS? Harmonious as intended. 1 body

[@fastpublish]

Will those Communist Long Johns eventually be donated to the V&A?

[@conorspence5332]

Peter always had bourgeois ideas, he rejected Marxism which he never understood because Christianity was more comforting for him.

[@stuartbritton4811]

You can not be a socialist and a Christian. Peter says you can.

[@ntm3970]

Why not?

[@commonwunder]

Sometimes it may feel 'cozy' inside yourself, to want the tradition and homogeneity of a Christian hegemony. But never forget the same problems that plague 'liberalism' are several levels of torment worse, when people are filled with 'unchallenged' religious conviction. It has been quite a long time now... since Christianity was declawed in the West. The cozy feeling of a return, might arouse warm nostalgic emotions in you. But humans 'blessed from above' ...ordained with supreme power here on earth... is a recipe, for a return to the darkest of dark ages and a violent reign of death and inhumanity. Use it personally if you must, but don't wish it to control your society. Let Christianity sleep... and only in your dreams let it breathe. Only there, wishing it were a pure panacea and not its reality, of it just being another incredibly dangerous tool. To be so easily wielded by charismatic, yet extremely dangerous people.

[@KnoxEmDown]

It's always funny what happens when leaders of men think they can control God. Such leaders have attempted it so many times before, though because restraining God himself is beyond their power, they instead made martyrs of His own, cut off tongues and hands of confessors, exiled holy people to the ends of the Earth, and so on. Yet the Pagan Roman Empire became Christian, and the Iconoclast Emperors of Christian Rome were anathematized. The Church has buried every one of her supposed undertakers in the graves they dug for her; What's a few more for the graveyard?

[@marcomclaurin6713]

My approach to God are absolutes Sonoluminescence:"Let there be light" I'll demonstrate the accuracy of Scripture in my video 'Begining of understanding ' where I give examples of transmutation by electrical process of genetically superior creatures, my icon is a seraph kneeling for example

[@alsoascot02]

A better defense of Christianity is offered by Tom Holland

[@Semi0ffGrid7]

He is extremely deliberately obnoxious, closed off and combative!

[@everythingisupsidedown9593]

Females are to be silent and ask their husband. Never to preach. Only attend to younger females who seek the experience of older females.

[@kateknowles8055]

Oh well. I KNEW I was and I KNOW I am a sinner. And I have a tendency to judge girls that flaunt very much of what they have got. (That's a sin in my book, if the goods are not really for sale! But is it not odd that not so long ago the women mostly wore a hat in a church service and men made sure to take off their hats at the door.) Female commentator often preaching to those who read comments. Thank you The Sacred for this space.

[@greetingsbox4229]

Could you not have asked 10 questions on his thoughts on drugs.

[@dirtywetdogboatsandsailing6805]

Peter Hitchens often seems to use the politicians method of answering a question which is to not answer the actual question but something he has on his mind. Difficult bloke to interview and I think it was Alex O Connor who showed him up for the difficult and combative man that he is.

[@woff1959]

At 1:09, referring to Marxist-Leninist ideas, you say: "Not everyone would agree with this, what he would narrate as the logical endpoint of those ideas in Stalinist Soviet Russia." Let's look at that. I'm Hungarian. I lost my father's family in what can only be described as the Red Holocaust. (Deportations, ethnic cleansing, massacres, you know, what you call 'peace'.) First, when Peter was in Russia, Stalin was long dead, so it was not 'Stalinist', but "Leninist'. As someone who experienced the reality of Marxism Leninism, I must say this is deeply hurtful, like a kind of Holocaust Denial, when you say: "not everyone would agree". Well, if you regret the fall of our Iron Curtain and Berlin Wall, I strongly suggest you read that book you claim to believe in, and I would expect an apology from you. An apology to all the people who had to live in that hell!

[@romeisfallingagain]

peter is an oxonian state propagandist.