This Screen is Amazing - Steam Deck OLED vs. Switch, Ally, & Legion Go

[@TakiUdon]

OLED Enjoyer is now a popular phrase.

[@X862go]

sooooo nice rp the legion go

[@crs9128]

@@X862go RIP?

[@SToad]

Thank you for all these numbers. What is the windwaker-looking game when you start the Gamut measurement?

[@randerins]

@@X862go I literally couldn't see a difference in colors comparing to the Legion Go

[@MA-xd9zl]

@@randerins but the legion go is not OLED

[@Aethelbeorn]

My wife came to me asking if wanted to get an OLED before I had the chance to ask her. She the best.

[@Leopez02]

You have THE BEST wife! 😮

[@Yore0]

Dang. I'm sure my wife would roll her eyes if I told her I wanted to buy the OLED.

[@cicada974]

W wife

[@YokiBrewster]

I can’t get a Oreo cookie out of my wife let alone a OLED steam deck.

[@Leopez02]

@@Yore0 you have a smart wife

[@rla9889]

The battery life is a HUGE improvement! Getting 6 hours in Borderlands and 3+ hours in RE3R at 90 fps? Absolutely incredible for a handheld to be able to play games like this with such amazing battery life.

[@RRihannaVEVO]

3 hours yeah brilliant 😂😂😂😂

[@Mabifield]

@@RRihannaVEVO Yes Rihanna xd

[@andrewz4515]

@@RRihannaVEVO at 90fps, you could lock it to 40 and get more battery.

[@tguy1010]

i dont know man 3 hrs is pretty short

[@LiveAndLaughs]

@@tguy1010just charge it once a day and you’re good. Who sits around gaming for more than 3 hours a day anyway? Thats gross.

[@chilly6470]

I hated the backlight bleed on my SD so much that, I sold it and bought a ROG Ally. But, a 90hz Oled with HDR is definitely a really smart move and I'll be buying asap.

[@sonicandroxas]

Wow. Way too much disposable income

[@chilly6470]

@@sonicandroxas.......I've been working since I was 17 years old so, maybe I do. However, I buy stuff only to sell it a few months down the line so I can afford the new thing.

[@matthewzaloudek]

@@sonicandroxas too much? lol you just jealous

[@spike178]

Have lots of spare income and not worked in decades, so much better paying zero tax and have free rent. Working is for fools and horses and not paying taxes to the evil corrupt UK Government.

[@supafly0345]

@@chilly6470 don't you feel a bit too much like a mindless consumer this way though?

[@BlackjackK7X]

Got a SD64 two months ago for $350 and dropped in a WDB 2TB SSD. The day they dropped the news of this SD OLED, I listed my SD 2TB for sale. I got $535 for it and I'm putting it towards this OLED! Very excited for this new OLED, needless to say. 😅

[@CasepbX]

That's cool. I'm just going to sell my 64GB model to a friend for $150.

[@matosaku0857]

@@CasepbX damn im jealous good friend you are

[@SWOTHDRA]

Smart move

[@gamesworld1309]

ok nobody cares

[@matosaku0857]

@@gamesworld1309 I assume that nobody is you

[@denisruskin348]

Easily the best video to finally make a decision. I was on the fence between the Ally and the vanilla Deck. I like the Ally's perfomance jump but the ease of use and no hassle with Windows was a big factor. Now, seeing this video - I'm 100% decided to go with a glossy OLED Deck. Sure, I could squeeze some extra frames with the Ally, but between Steam OS and definitely better battery life in lighter titles, it's pretty much a done deal. Can't wait to revisit my huge library of Steam games with this device.

[@robinbard1702]

Don’t forget that you can still enjoy heavy titles with GeForce now.

[@VADDY1]

You can enjoy lighter titles on legion go its the same battery. They just rank battery off of AAA games not light games

[@optionlV]

Thanks for going in detail with the OLED. I'm thinking this time around I'll go with the mid-tier option for the Glossy screen. I'll most likely put a screen protector as well which would be kind of pointless on the etched version. Having a glossy LG C2, a glossy OLED screen just pops. I play in the dark anyway, so reflections aren't as much of problem.

[@bnr32jason]

Yup, I have a 42" C2 and an 83" C3 and I've seen matte screen OLED monitors side by side and it's a significant difference. Glossy or nothing for me.

[@n0sferatu]

Same, I've learned to appreciate glossy displays. My work laptop is LCD with gloss and I prefer it a lot over matte finish. Also have a C1 48" for pc use and I absolutely love it

[@erebostd]

Same.

[@theevildice83]

Just a note, the old LCD can actually do 70Hz, for some reason Valve limited it to 60Hz with software, but there is a community patch you can use to allow the sliders to go to 70Hz

[@TakiUdon]

It's an option. It has an issue on one of mine, so I don't use it.

[@oladipupodurotimi4754]

Yeah. Mine is 70hz too. Can even go as low as 10-70fps lol 😂

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

Yeah and the OLED can be pushed to 120Hz too

[@theevildice83]

@@CaptainRx-ss3rt It can? This is the first I'm hearing of it. If that's true that's insane that Valve capped it at 90Hz, knocking 10Hz off the capabilities is one thing, but 30Hz would be nuts

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

@@theevildice83 The panel wasn't made for this so there's no reason valve to "risk" going above. Some dude on reddit gave a tutorial to overcloak it to 120hz. As time goes on we'll probably find more new stuff

[@niclasneziru1854]

Valve really went and took away the only reason why the ROG Ally and Switch OLED screens were better and then chose to release it on exactly the same time frame as the Lenovo Legion Go Utterly vicious lmao

[@MithosDagon]

The OLED is great, but it didn’t take away everything the Ally or Legion Go have lol. The Ally has VRR

[@SweBeach2023]

I don't understand why everyone seem to crown the SD OLED as the ultimate handheld. The Legion Go have a much faster CPU and a substantially bigger higher-rez screen, even if it's a normal LCD and not an OLED. The SD is better in some ways, the Legion Go in others.

[@niclasneziru1854]

@@SweBeach2023 I disagree, I think the Legion Go's stronger APU and FPS mode are good enough to rival the Steam Deck, and to an extent it might be the better device, but still, Steam deck wins in the eyes of the mass market and consumers the Deck is the "best handheld" cause it has the best price-performance ratio You can't just win a gaming device war with sheer power alone, same reason why the Nintendo Wii beat the PS3 and Xbox 360 despite being a glorified GameCube

[@momoware]

@@SweBeach2023 I would say there're 2 points are really essential to me that SD does better: low TDP performance and more console-like sleep/pause behaviors. I'd be curious to see how many handheld owners own only a handheld and not a gaming PC. I personally own a PC and do not care as much about the raw power of the CPU..

[@Ascendant275]

​@@MithosDagon if you're making a decision between the deck and ally now it's MUCH harder than it was before, and that's not good for asus. vrr is good, but it can't make up for the lack of trackpads and big bezels. new deck pretty much killed all of it's drawbacks that'd make people lean more​ towards other handhelds.

[@CaptainEffort]

The difference between 13w and 16w is pretty significant in terms of battery life

[@miloshp7399]

Yeah, 3

[@yangmaster24]

@@miloshp7399 Half Life 3 confirmed

[@NothingHereForYou]

@@miloshp7399like 2 but 1 better

[@NothingHereForYou]

I still think the SD OLED is the best especially for the price. The software and build quality are solid and what you all get makes it pretty great for the price.

[@peachblossom9161]

Thank you very much Taki, especially for including low brightness and switch comparison. Excellent summary and a lot of really useful and interesting information. I’m sure this will have pushed a lot of people over the edge on getting one. I’m going to take the plunge myself now I think, thanks again 👍

[@KoolAidManOG]

It makes sense that the SWOLED and Deck OLED look so similar since the displays are supposed to come from the same source. I ended up selling my OG Deck because I disliked the screen so much, especially when the SWOLED looked so much better. I'll be picking up the new Deck OLED ASAP though, this is a terrific upgrade that fixes a lot of pain points I had with the original version.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

They have entirely different displays. The switch maxes out at about 350 nits.

[@fightnight14]

Same I got rid of my LCD Deck because I got spoiled with my Switch OLED. I’ll also get the new Deck

[@redo1700]

Why SWOLED but no DOLED?

[@Hazemann]

SW OLED & DECK OLED have the same color production, just DECK one more brighter than SWITCH one

[@oladipupodurotimi4754]

Doled vs Swoled 😂

[@123shinryuuji]

I am amazed at the quality of this video, and by this I mean the clarity. All other videos filming the Oled has a lot of glare, while this vid is so pure. Very good job showcasing this amazing new screen

[@Zero]

Best screen review yet, its looks like a 1:1 match of my OLED switch and that makes me happy to see. I wont get the OLED deck because I cant sell my current deck at a reasonable price.

[@StormBurnX]

aside from the oled/LCD backlight issue on black pixels, the deckhd mod looks hella good, damn. Had no idea it was that nice.

[@Sithhy]

It might be nice to look at but it robs you of atleast 20% performance due to the increased resolution

[@StormBurnX]

@@Sithhy as someone who is perpetually annoyed by low contrast and bad colors, I would gladly put up with a 20-30% performance hit for a 50-75% visual improvement, any day

[@HekaWaset]

My deck has served me well so far, i was waiting for the GO to come out and see what the reviews have to say. The bigger screen, better performance are important to me, as the deck has recently more often than not reached its performance limits and that is only going to worse moving forward. Ill still keep the deck for emulation and the occasional steam game, but I'm getting the Legion GO for main portable gaming until the next generation of these devices or a steam deck 2 comes out. Intel has been working on a chip that apparently outperforms the Z1 extreme and the first devices equipped with it have been spotted in the wild. Thanks for the vid!

[@fatalradius]

This will be my first SteamDeck. Incredible how far we’ve come

[@SPISheste]

Shout out to all the homies who bought the LCD version just weeks before this was announced, heart wrenching

[@9r33ks]

As a huge fan of oleds on phones, this is the ultimate version of Deck, and I'm definitely getting it. Still too big for my taste, but now I'm sure Valve will release Deck Mini too, at some point.

[@stephenoneill3134]

I feel like the deck is the perfect size

[@9r33ks]

@@stephenoneill3134 then let other people have a choice.

[@stephenoneill3134]

@@9r33ksI was simply stating my opinion no need to get upset!

[@bibabutzemann5661]

@@stephenoneill3134 why do you think that he is upset?

[@fightnight14]

Definitely big. The ROG Ally and Switch are the perfect size but an even smaller one would have been nice

[@keyboard_g]

Im going for the Deck. I only held out before because the LCD screen color quality. I’d rather forego performance ceiling of Ally and Lenovo to not have to fight with Windows 11.

[@DinoNugsy]

My issue is dual booting on the steam deck. Because you lose steam os if you dual boot Windows and Linux to play anti cheat games. Then you'll have to reinstall Steam OS when you are done after that.

[@koobluh]

As someone who switched from the Steam Deck to ROG Ally a couple months ago, it's really not as bad as people make it out to be. On the Ally, driver updates come down via Windows Update and the Armory Crate software UI is easy to use. At the end of the day, it really depends which is worse: getting locked into only steam games or having to deal with Windows? For me, I chose the Ally for Game Pass and better performance.

[@rust9565]

​@@koobluhQuestion for you. What exactly do people mean with "battle with windows"?

[@koobluh]

@@rust9565 I think they're talking about how unfriendly Windows is for touch input. But after you install Steam/EA/Epic, you really don't do much other than launch the games

[@rust9565]

@@koobluh gotcha, thanks!

[@jakeyam0223]

Hey man, I’m intrigued with your usb cable. Where did you get it?

[@nefariou5]

Another great video on the oled steam deck. the only thing stopping me from being really upset about buying a steam deck a few months ago, is that they didnt make the new entry model oled. The reason I bought a steam deck despite not having lots of time for gaming anymore, was that the cheapest model with a steam sale was incredibly cheap, and I could just put in my own ssd to make it useable. If I planned to buy an oled I'd have to get the mid tier which is $549, which is a massive price difference!

[@leonthesleepy]

u bring up a great point tbh! i also got a deck 2 mths ago and was pretty bummed to hear the oled announced...wish i waited

[@B_Machine]

Perhaps it'll be on sale next year. I guess it's better than nothing, and like Taki pointed out: future handhelds are going to have to compete with this amazing screen. I'm curious to see what the offerings will be in 2024. This year has been insane.

[@rickystafford7433]

this is what i dont understand. If you’re gonna pay $550 why not pay $50 more and get an Ally? who would really want to leave that kind of performance on the table, not to mention VRR, 120hz, 1080p

[@johnbuscher7119]

@@rickystafford7433Because battery life on the Deck is better, and Windows is a terrible experience on a handheld by comparison. For a handheld computer, these seem like persuasive factors to me.

[@alyx4436]

I believe the strobing effect is actually a very good sign for the OLED. The reason the LCD dont get the strobing effect is actually also one of the reasons LCD are sub-par. The frames are blurring together on the LCD which is why the camera does not pick up on strobing. The OLED has such good pixel response, that there is very little blur between frames/refreshes. Its good it means more motion clarity on the OLED.

[@Tutku35]

Valve first led deck hd to be released, then they killed it with their own oled. What a boss move.

[@tonysimek]

Well done presentation! Thank your great info plus making it watchable. So many youtube experts do crazy edits with crazy sounds and transitions. Yours was normal, fun, engaging etc.

[@Yore0]

I'm wondering if those of us that have an OG Deck with an upgraded drive can just swap that drive over to the OLED model to avoid having to re-download and reconfigure everything on the OLED. It'd be nice if you could check and see if that would be possible Taki.

[@zhon5311]

should be fine since they are the same form factor, worst comes to worse u may have to reinstall SteamOS and redownload ur stuff

[@S1RLANC3]

These companies future proof and prepare for those types of scenarios. Just make sure you update your software completely first and review their forum first as someone else would of already done it and posted it. As what was stated earlier, worst case is you just re-download everything but that shouldn't be long as the new one downloads 3 times faster.

[@jordirapper]

People who opened it have confirmed it is a little different so it remains a question as they weren't allowed to swap it out for obvious reasons.

[@zhon5311]

@jordirapper internals are redesigned but u can see in the teardown that the ssd module is very similar

[@Dracossaint]

In case anyone runs across this later it has been confirmed that you can you do have to install updates after

[@Mr.BARBOZO]

Hello, I have a question. Do you recommend changing tdp during gaming. I recently had to RMA my steam deck and was wondering if just lowering tdp can save it from wearing out.

[@sinom]

If you leave the deck at 90 and use v-sync while it doesn't hit the full 90 it will sync down to 45FPS instead of 60FPS. You can not display any 60FPS footage on a screen in 90Hz mode without frame pacing issues.

[@TakiUdon]

This is true, so you will want to use the new simplified menu and per-game settings.

[@sirownzalotgaming3025]

So what’s better? Lenovo legion go or steam deck oled??

[@Cookieman245]

Nothing beats the Steam Deck at this point

[@OTDECK]

Tell that to Alan wake 2 😂 and starfield

[@asuperrandomguy8266]

​​@@OTDECKStarfield run perfectly on deck Well not perfectly but as good as a proper console

[@Cookieman245]

Yeah but those releases are worse than Hello Neighbor 2

[@OTDECK]

@@Cookieman245 Alan wake 2 is a goty contender mate fk you saying ! Mad bastard 😂

[@OTDECK]

@@Cookieman245 starfield was shit tho agreed

[@CasepbX]

Awesome job man! I think I'm really looking forward to playing a lot of retro and indie game at 90hz. So many great retro FPS games coming soon! The Switch appears sharper due to that glossy screen.

[@jordirapper]

I just find it strange. Valve hasn't given ANYONE the 512gb model to see the difference between the normal OLED and the anti glare OLED.

[@redrum801]

All the review units have the anti glare. The special edition 1TB versions are going to be limited only reason they didn’t give them to reviewers.

[@aprophetofrng9821]

@@wigglytriangle Marginally, according to a few reviewers. However, you can negate the slight impact it has by using a glossy screen protector. Some people may then say, "Well why wouldn't I just get the mid tier model then?" And a good amount of people will. But the bigger storage (and cool case) is enough reason for the people getting the higher end model. Also if you're going to be playing the Deck a lot outside or where there's a lot of lights, the anti-glare might be the better option for you even if it has a small impact to the visuals. The impact, by the way, is so incredibly small that reviewers said it was hard to see a difference. I don't think people will tell a difference unless they're being very scrutinous with it.

[@redrum801]

⁠@@wigglytrianglefrom the few reviews I’ve seen so far on the oled SD screens it seems so

[@ShadowMan64572]

LOL, as soon as this comes out, Valve all of a sudden "screws up" the SRGB setting in Preview mode. Now it's much less vivid than it was yesterday for me. Valve is doing some sneaky stuff here...

[@gambaownsus]

what to do to have it fixed? any settings u recommend?

[@matthewjohnson1891]

I usually run my switch oled in normal saturation as opposed to vivid. Is there a saturation slider for the deck oled?

[@christianr.5868]

Saturation can be adjusted yeah

[@tanuki2k]

Yes! Filters for HDR and Linux native titles would be great 🎉🎉 Hears hoping Vale is watching 😅

[@elirantuil5003]

Can you test switch emulation? It was very close to solid in the original deck and the better memory here can maybe make a difference.

[@Justin-dp7pg]

This! I was wondering if Switch can pull another 10fps. Almost bought a legion Go but if we can get playable Switch games i’m sold on the OLED deck.

[@hoylematt1]

Taki, help me decided between etched and no etch. I currently have the LCD SD without etched so I have no reference. Does the etch dramatically affect the clarity of the OLED?

[@TakiUdon]

Go to the end of the Switch OLED vs. Steam Deck OLED section. I talk about it while showing the Control picture.

[@JasonJtran]

This video is pretty funny because your examples do not make the og look much worse. I know oled is a huge difference in person. I have an oled TV. Just doesn't come through as strong in this video.

[@TakiUdon]

I'm not going out of my way to make it look one way or the other. I want to present it how it is (with data) so you can decide.

[@ReGo001]

Found in Spider-Man you have to raise the paper white setting to the base SDR brightness (600nits) or it massively under saturates the entire picture. Once you do that it looks correct and is totally worth using. It looks dreadful if you don’t

[@TheNille02]

What game is it in the Color Range test around 10:00?

[@TakiUdon]

Windbound

[@Deadlines-X]

Another Great video, definetly my favourite for handheld console reviews

[@RUNDiSC87]

Thank you Taki for all the work. Thanks for all.

[@J.Wick.]

Love it. Just got my SD back in June. Had i not bought that one, id be all in on this. As it is, i may wait for a 499$ sale. Ive recently discovered how awesome geforce now can be on the SD... imagine it would only be a better experience on the oled.

[@Legendary_Honey]

Seems like the Legion Go is the best choice if you value performance, a bigger screen, and playing more demanding titles on the go. Also very good for anyone who wants to use it for work, or other non gaming related activities. The Steam Deck OLED is better for incredible support from Valve, a better screen, and a generally more polished package. I think the other options out there are generally just a little less interesting.

[@frizzyelf3812]

im getting rog ally for the same price as steam deck oled as a black friday sale ,which one would you recommend i play some fps here and there love triple As but i have my pc for that wanted to experience that new oled screen plus the battery life is awesome. but the price to performance ratio goes to ally

[@samh5886]

1. Is your switch OLED on standard or vivid mode when doing the comparison? 2. Can you test deck OLED in srgb mode in comparison with Ally or monitors with srgb clamp mode? SRGB should give the most accurate/developer intended colors for SDR content, without the oversaturated effect which many likes 😂. 3. The press material mention 110% of dci p3 coverage while you measure ~ 90? Is it covering areas (e.g rec 2020) outside dci p3, while not covering some portion of dci p3? Or was there some false marketing? Is your tool able to measure rec 2020 coverage? 4. Was your original deck on "srgb" mode when doing the comparison?

[@TakiUdon]

- Standard - I could try to do that. - It was 110% of sRGB. They really should have reported P3 at that point, but it doesn't sound as good as going over 100% -sRGB 02:47

[@didjidks]

Maybe it's 100% when you set the color vibrancy setting to native? I don't think you showed that

[@samh5886]

​@@TakiUdonThanks for clarifying, read too many articles mentioning 110% of dci p3. Two articles (tom's hardware and anandtech) mentioning ~ 100% dci p3 and ~140% srgb as well. Hope they are not sending out different models of panels or panels of the same model that vary so much 😅 Edit: Seems like there might possibly be 2 panel suppliers Samsung and BOE

[@tomoprime217]

Taki I still feel undecided being new to the handheld scene. I rolled the dice on IGG for a Win Mini as my 1st. Should I want to own a 512GB OLED deck too? I would love to see a video on gaming on the new deck in general. Is it still worth getting a deck when something incoming is gonna be more powerful and more portable. I get that the star of the show is the OLED with every previous feature optimized, plus there's the outstanding battery life and better thermals. You get a console steamOS experience with quick resume! The deck is an incredible value but I fear realistically I'll probably use one handheld over the other. So it boils beyond specs on paper. In the next video what do you really love about owing a refreshed deck when so so many handhelds are out on the market? Maybe having both fits 2 different situations I didnt know I needed.

[@TakiUdon]

Win Mini can do more than this, but it will do that with thermal issues that you won't have on the OLED Deck. The Win Mini screen is comparable to Ally, and all of the things that I said in the dedicated section of this video and in the benchmarks apply.

[@tomoprime217]

@@TakiUdon GPD recently posted an IGG Update that the Win Mini domestic presales have gone out shipping today. Will this mean you'll have a cooler revised unit this week?

[@Splackavellie85]

The thing I like most about companies like Valve is that they seem to actually listen to their user base and make smart decisions on what compromises to make. The original Steam Deck had a mediocre screen, so Valve could hit the $399 price point and even though a lot of competing handhelds had significantly better screens, more ports, better specs, more gimmicks and better performance, the Steam Deck remained the handheld to beat for price/performance and console experience. Now that PC handhelds are becoming more mainstream and more powerful handhelds like the Ally and Legion Go were able to hit that sub-$700 price point, Valve comes out with a refresh that addresses nearly everything users wanted to have, while still making smart decisions to keep the same price points. The screen is the obvious improvement. Even though competitors are chasing specs and hitting 1080p and even 1600p resolutions, Valve opted to go for quality over quantity, knowing that most games don’t run well above 720p and that a far superior OLED screen at the same price is better for real world use. Same goes for the battery and the choice to keep the performance pretty much the same, even when going for an updated APU. Again: you get more real world enjoyment out of being able to use it for longer while not having to make concessions to performance in comparison to the original Steam Deck. They even gave us an improved case! In a market where they were already praised for including a pretty good case with the original Steam Deck. I own an ROG Ally and an Aya Neo 2. I sold my Steam Deck a couple months ago, and I’m glad I did, because this refresh is an instant buy for me. I’m keeping the ROG Ally because I love its flexibility, but the Aya Neo 2 is going out the door. I’ll probably mainly use the ROG Ally docked as a multimedia PC and for gaming on the TV, while the Steam Deck OLED becomes the default handheld option.

[@ShadowMan64572]

Fake news. Valve previously added SRGB setting for original model. Now they heavily downgraded it. I wonder why...because they are trying to sell the new model with better screen? Valve is screwing over the people who bought the old model and should not be praised.

[@ant0ine2]

Is the steam deck LCD still worth it to get? Steam deck OLED is twice the price of LCD version in my country.

[@RandoPerson7777]

I wish I waited a bit before getting my normal steam deck

[@Martin-b2m]

i wouldn't worry, scalpers will make this really hard to get for months

[@SWOTHDRA]

​@@Martin-b2mlol not true, the OG deck sold a measily 5 million copies worldwide 😂

[@stopmotionfrance4938]

Thanks for the video. Is this a vertical or horizontal screen?

[@markkeeper7771]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎮 *Software Changes on Steam Deck OLED* - New frame limit menu on Steam Deck OLED. - Frame rate customization for smoother experiences. - Adjustments for game-specific frame rate preferences. 03:09 🎨 *Display Options and HDR on Steam Deck OLED* - Changes in color vibrancy settings. - Color temperature adjustments and HDR mode. - Impact of HDR in supported games. 04:32 🕹️ *90 Hz Gaming on Steam Deck OLED* - Exploring 90 FPS gaming on retro 3D and 2D titles. - Power consumption analysis for different TDP levels. - Benefits and trade-offs of higher refresh rates. 08:11 🌈 *HDR Capabilities on Steam Deck OLED* - Varying effects of HDR in different games. - Suggestions for software improvements related to HDR. - Personal perspective on HDR as a bonus feature. 09:57 📊 *Panel Measurements Comparison* - Detailed measurements of the Steam Deck OLED panel. - Comparison with original Steam Deck, Rog Ally, and Lenovo Legion Go. - Evaluation of color space, brightness, and color accuracy. 13:45 🎭 *Device Comparisons: Steam Deck OLED vs. Nintendo Switch OLED* - Side-by-side comparison of Donkey Kong Country on both devices. - Similarities in color representation and overall panel performance. - Addressing potential concerns related to etched glass. 15:54 🔄 *Device Comparisons: Steam Deck OLED vs. Original Steam Deck* - Highlighting significant improvements in the OLED model. - Demonstration of superior viewing angles. - Side-by-side screenshot comparisons showcasing color and clarity differences. 17:19 🌟 *Day-to-Day Experience with Steam Deck OLED* - Notable improvements in brightness and sharpness. - Subjective clarity and text legibility compared to the original Steam Deck. - Observations from prolonged usage. 17:46 🌈 *OLED Screen Brightness Comparison* - Comparison of OLED screen brightness on Steam Deck OLED vs. original Steam Deck. - OLED screen is darker than the original one, noticeable especially at minimum brightness. - Addressing concerns about flickering at minimum brightness levels, with no observed issues. 18:13 🔄 *Strobing and Refresh Rates* - Strobing issue observed on the OLED screen at minimum brightness. - Camera picks up strobing, but it's not visible to the naked eye. - Strobing intensity varies with different refresh rates; demonstration at 40 Hz. 19:06 🎮 *ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck OLED Visual Experience* - Visual comparison between ROG Ally and Steam Deck OLED. - Similarities in display quality, slight differences in color representation. - ROG Ally has a quieter fan and a higher performance ceiling. 20:00 ⚙️ *Power Consumption: Freedom Planet* - Power consumption comparison between Steam Deck OLED and ROG Ally in Freedom Planet. - Small power consumption difference at minimum TDP, Steam Deck using less power. - Visual enjoyment possible on both, but power efficiency noted. 20:57 🎮 *Power Consumption: Demanding Title* - Power consumption comparison in a more demanding title at 720p on both devices. - Steam Deck uses less power than ROG Ally, but the difference is not substantial. - Highlighting the advantage of ROG Ally being able to run the game at 1080p. 21:49 🖥️ *Lenovo Legion Go vs. Steam Deck OLED* - Visual and power consumption comparison between Lenovo Legion Go and Steam Deck OLED. - Legion Go has a larger screen, but with shortcomings in max brightness and contrast ratio. - Legion Go's fan noise is louder, and it has a higher performance ceiling. 22:43 🌍 *Impact of Steam Deck OLED on Handheld Market* - Concluding thoughts on the impact of Steam Deck OLED on the handheld market. - The existence of OLED Steam Deck is expected to elevate the overall handheld market. - Positive impact anticipated for future handhelds, providing more choices and improvements. Made with HARPA AI

[@MrGrzegorzD]

Just bough it last night. What retro do u recommend guys? Saw there is something called emudeck and retroarch and saw some ebay sd offers with 256gb and like 70 emulators on it for 70e or so...should I use one or there is better way? 1st time noob here, but I started my PC gaming experience with c64, so I would like to see some games from my teens...

[@OrganicGreens]

I wonder how much cheaper valve could make the steam deck if it was just a box that connected to a tv like a console without a display or controls?

[@fravier10001]

They tried a long time ago but couldn't compete with the console market. Now with the experience they gained from the Deck maybe be possible, but i doubt.

[@kuhpunkt]

5 bucks

[@nurlanbekezhan5003]

you can google what beeink offers with those RDNA 2 APUs

[@someguy9175]

it's in the development right now, apparently. check out sadly it's bradly and tyler mc vicker, they have a ton of videos on valve leaks.

[@kuhpunkt]

@@someguy9175 tyler doesn't know anything, bradley is focussed on the deckard

[@vicenteanilema711]

Hi Taki, awesome video! Do you know if the OLED display is PWM? Is it flicker free?

[@megabytesofrem]

Horrible PWM, worse than LCD, avoid if you are sensitive. The ROG Ally is the most comfortable display on a gaming handheld since it is VRR and flicker free so if you are sensitive look into this one.

[@creaturecore13]

My only issue with the deck is portability. I never had a problem with the old screen when the saturation was changed. The new power savings is the biggest draw. It's incredible. But still the size of the deck makes it annoying to carry around. I'm waiting on the win mini because of that. But do wish the mini used the same chip and ran steamos.

[@paul1979uk2000]

Depends on what you mean by portability, if you mean by putting it in the pocket, then other gaming systems like the Switch is better, but honestly, if I'm using any of these kinds of devices, it's likely going to be for reasonable gaming sessions, that having it in a bag or carrier case isn't really an issue. If we are talking really light gaming, there's far better options then this that are also much more portable. Personally, I think the Deck OLED strikes the right balance from performance, price and battery life.

[@creaturecore13]

@@paul1979uk2000 I mean even in a back pack the deck sucked to carry. It ate up a ton of space in the main compartment because it's so big it can't fit in any side pockets. When you need to pack for 2-3 days all the time, and the deck eats up 20% space in the huge oem case and probably around 12-15% in a tomtoc case, that is a lot of space gone. The mini I think is still to big to put in a pocket that isn't a hoodie or cargo pants, but it fits in a tiny pocket in a back pack or a small sling bag with your other daily crap.

[@f00fightrs]

Taki, can you swap the ssd from your lcd to your OLED steam deck and let us know if there are any software/driver issues with doing so? I'd hate to have to reinstall and reconfigure another steam deck from scratch.

[@TakiUdon]

The OLED Steam OS version isn't released yet, so I don't expect it will work, but I can try.

[@Martin-b2m]

i don't know whether to wait for the new one considering there will be scalpers for a while. Or just get the old one at a discount and I can get one now

[@werpu12]

Valve shut down the scalpers pretty efficient, you needed a buy at least 2-3 months before the offer and then you only could buy one. This wont work forever, but 90% of the scalpers did not get a shot and bots were out!

[@TheComando156]

Well. I'm sure you will be able to pick up 1gen steam decks for 250-300 now. People will want to sell their first Gen ones to update to this OLED model. Hell even I am considering selling mine and buying the OLED one.

[@keepitshort4208]

Looks amazing, just had a question on whats the deal with the oled dead pixels ?

[@warrenbadze]

I have a regular 512 gig steamdeck and an OLed switch ... Would trading both in so that I get a 1TB oled is that a good deal

[@c-tothefourth4879]

no

[@SWOTHDRA]

No keep the switch

[@ThompYT]

this review feels like it was made for me! All my questions, all the juicy details that i could ever ask for!

[@BahhBahhBrownSheep]

Nah it was made for me

[@ThompYT]

@@BahhBahhBrownSheep no me >:(

[@WhiskeyAfterHours]

Something for people to note when hes comparing steam deck to other handhelds like the ally look at the frame pacing. While the Ally does keep up fps and power wise look at how the frame pacing is insane and on the steam deck is buttery smooth.

[@stowlo]

Was your testing done on a unit with etched glass? Trying to decide which to buy but want to know if the blacks look that good on that one as well.

[@TakiUdon]

I talk about the etched glass in the Switch OLED section.

[@stowlo]

@@TakiUdon sorry I missed that. Appreciate the reply and all your hard work.

[@jimmymac2292]

As much as I want to upgrade, I dont think its worth it to spend $650 for a better screen and battery life

[@robotuprising1711]

Agreed, as a new buy the oled is an obvious choice. If you already have the lcd, then its not worth it to me. I fell into this trap buying the oled switch while already having the og, and did not get my moneys worth out of the upgrade. I feel like it'd be the same experience here

[@robotuprising1711]

@@ganjaguy930 Your right on that. It felt like the obvious choice for me, cause i really like oled over lcd. But not everyone may care

[@LeoStep93]

But what if you sell the old one, for like 400 bucks?

[@gioele235]

We will need a while before having an interesting performance boost. Atm main reasons are display, battery and ergonomics.

[@jimmymac2292]

@LeoStep93 I thought about it. It's not likely you could sell it for $400 now with that Valve is offering the 256gb for $400. Plus, I have emulators, geforce now, game pass, etc all setup. I think this is great progress, the Steam Deck 2 will be an automatic upgrade for me

[@steelhoplite5357]

Hi, I am looking for some retro console under 50$. Which one is the best now? Miyo Mini, R36S, powkiddy r39 pro... ? Ot another ? Thx for help :)

[@HardcoreAlex]

It makes me wanna get another steam deck😂😂

[@chrisg5352]

What an in depth user review! Awesome job!

[@TakiUdon]

Thank you kindly!

[@Dex2R7]

If the Steam Deck OLED had a spec bump to be as powerful as an Ally/Go I would be more interested in picking one up

[@LemonRush7777]

Steam Deck 2 should come out in 2 - 3 years. I'm just gonna wait, it will probably have eGPU support by then.

[@fravier10001]

They can't for now. They are committed to the users with one platform. At least till the Deck 2

[@Dex2R7]

@@LemonRush7777 The new Ryzen APU's are coming out in a few months. So there will be more powerful options very soon. But yeah I could see the SD2 having eGPU support and basically a whole ecosystem like Apple. IE: Steam Deck, Home Dock w/ GPU, and a VR Headset that can use both. Valve/Gaben kicks ass and I can't wait to see what they do.

[@LemonRush7777]

@@Dex2R7 Valve said they are looking at a 2 to 3 years minimum for a Steam Deck 2. It wouldn't be wise to flood markets with different versions so soon anyway. I think they are focusing on their logistics for now since there's plenty of places where the Steam Deck isn't sold.

[@CandysChannel]

The screen would still be too small for me. My aging eyes need that 8.8 inch screen. It’s a shame the OLED SD still has the same screen resolution even with OLED and the same old aging chip. It’s too weak for my needs

[@sinom]

"this display is so accurate that we have to move up from the sRGB colour space because we already maxed it out". That is not how colour spaces or accuracy work. For accuracy going too far is just as bad as not going far enough. If you look at the triangle at 10:22 what you want for great accuracy is to have every one of those circles inside the of its box. The further away from the box each point is the less accurate that sample is. If it's closer to wards the middle of the triangle that means it's undersaturated, and if it's outside of the triangle that means it's oversaturated. What you probably meant instead of accuracy is coverage. Coverage means how much of that triangle can the display actually show. Here you can max out colour spaces, which basically means the display can show any colour inside that triangle. The other colour spaces like P3 are then bigger triangles the display can try to cover. Actually looking at both of the graphs it looks like you didn't actually put the display of the Steam Deck OLED into the sRGB colour space (not sure if these devices actually have accurate display profiles for sRGB) and it instead interpreted all the inputs as if they were in the P3 space instead. It would probably be a good idea to get actual sRGB readings to see how accurate it is when trying to display sRGB content.

[@TakiUdon]

You are slightly wrong. You want the ability to be able to display in any of those squares, but the device will only limit itself if it is in an sRGB mode, which this wasn't when tested. If it is not in an sRGB mode, it will test the full range that it is is capable of displaying, but it will show you the data from the mode that you are benchmarking. In this instance, it is showing you the bounds of the sRGB color space. The panel is well within P3. The sRGB mode doesn't function at this point (the same with the color temp slider that I showed earlier in the video).

[@gamitachi]

test battery

[@Amaan_OW]

Hades (and some other games like Doom 2016) have bugged power draw and peg CPU to max. If you use power tools to change the CPU governor to “powersave” you would probably see Hades drawing less than 10 W

[@LC-ig5hp]

Hi, What is the charge cable or adapter you are using please? Is compatible with the ROG ALLY? I am ideally looking for a good magnetic adapter kit that I can use with my official UK charger. I have a 100W also but I usually leave that setup with my docking hub for 30W turbo mode whilst docked.

[@muaythai193]

IS the LEnovo Legion Go in any way complicated to setup and update? I can't see it myself, but I read comments saying that the steamdeck is just switch on and go, but that they had issues with the LEgion Go to setup and play their steam games. And can both use a xbox elite 2 controller for all games that support it?

[@JittikMieger]

As a Steam Deck owner I am only interested in one thing: how is the input lag when you limit the frame rate? It's horrendous on the OG Deck, especially 30FPS in a 60Hz container. Your better off doing the 30FPS/60Hz limiting in game, than with the Steam Deck slider. That way you have way less input lag, but the game needs to support it - obviously.

[@alexythimia23]

I’m getting a steam deck delivered soon but can someone explain what all this “watt” talk is about? If I understand correct if it’s plugged in everything play better at a higher watt?

[@tappersreviews4677]

Great info here Taki. Thanks. Really looking forward to getting one.

[@serhii_himself]

0:56 it's the same on the OG steam deck. It was on one of the recent updates from the preview - which probably means your sd oled is on the preview too?

[@pommedapi3847]

Hey Taki, wich game are you playing at 09:40?

[@valebliz]

I hope they fixed the throttling apu bug. I just had to RMA my deck because it was stuck at 200/400mhz and no bios reset or other procedure was able to fix it.

[@AproposDare]

I was so hyped for the new Stheem Deck until I found out the APU is exactly the same. 😮‍💨

[@fgeezy9636]

Hey Taki, can you describe if VRR on the rog ally is smoother than gameplay on the Steam deck OLED? That is kind of one of my factors in getting one.

[@mannotwiththeplan]

Search through the whole internet to see what the differences are between etched OLED vs regular OLED. Finally found it at 13:55 but didn't actually state what the "slight differences" are 😒

[@ZombieRofl]

Great review and comparison. Can you please show the titels of the games you are playing? Some of them look great!

[@TakiUdon]

Added to description

[@als_pals]

I didn't know you could dial in performance so much on the steam deck software, such a cool feature!

[@Nekrozys]

Excellent video. This might be the most in depth comparison available at the moment and I really appreciate the attention to detail. Say, can you perceive any "dullness" in the blacks due to the etched screen in a normal setup with standard lighting condition ? If so, do you think this would make you opt for the glossy screen if given the choice ? This is what I'm most curious about. I don't mind if it's the case if I'm playing outside but if it does gray out the blacks even inside then I think I'd rather get the glossy screen instead. I couldn't perceive any such thing myself in your video despite the studio lighting so this is already reassuring.

[@TakiUdon]

I touch on this at the end of the Switch OLED section. Since the panels are the "same" and I've spent a ton of time on my Switch OLED, I haven't noticed this screen being worse from a dull perspective in normal lighting situations.

[@svetoslavivanov5858]

Hey, did you make your decision, i am also debating on whether to buy 512 ot 1tb, I just feel like the screen might be significantly worse.. hope not

[@Nekrozys]

@@TakiUdon Thanks for the precision.

[@Nekrozys]

@@svetoslavivanov5858 I'm gonna go with the 1TB model. I'm very happy with the anti-glare of the LCD model, it doesn't distort the light like many phone screen protector tend to and give a prism "rainbowy" effect to the light that comes from the screen. All I deplore from my current deck is the poor screen color accuracy and backlight bleed which should be resolved with the oled model. I find reflections very distracting and the anti-glare has advantages that many people tend to overlook like less visible dust and fingerprints. Worst case scenario, I can always use a tempered glass screen protector or even swap the screen for the other one once it becomes available. That said, the other way around is also possible so if you're on the fence, you can always go for the 512 and if you don't like the glossy, either find a matte screen protector or replace the screen if you're willing to go that far. That being said, many, many people swear by the glossy screen for an oled and that's understandable given the overall pros and cons. I'm just hopeful that Valve wouldn't sell this type of screen if it was such a disgrace to the oled panel underneath. Hope that helped.

[@drmountainman2749]

How about a video of cloning my steam deck ssd to move everything to the new oled model? I have spent a ton of time tweaking and downloading non steam emulation and don’t want to start over. Can you clone one deck to the other with opening them up? Want to sell my old deck after the transfer is complete.

[@CapAncientTV]

Hello I have a issues making this decision between a 400 dollar 264gig steam deck and a rog ally z1 for $450 I’d like to know everyone’s thought on to matter and if there is anything extra I should know before making a choice pls help

[@RushilKothare]

Is this the 1TB Etched Glass Steam Deck or the 512GB Glossy Steam Deck? There was another review that talked about how the OLED would look different with the etched glass so i was curious if these tests and comparisons were done with what version.

[@tonetraveler992]

All the review units that went out were the 1TB etched glass version, including this one.

[@MithosDagon]

Pretty much all reviewers were given the regular 1TB with the etched glass

[@bland9876]

Is he saying the display is so accurate if i needed to do color accurate work i could use the Decks display (maybe its physically to small but we are ignoring that)?

[@TakiUdon]

For stuff that you will deliver in sRGB, yes.

[@bland9876]

@@TakiUdon SRGB seems to be the normal standerd so for gaming that awesome.

[@th4nkyoub3n]

how do you play a steam game on more than one device at a time? i’ve tried and steam says i have to close one program before opening another

[@TakiUdon]

Shut off the wi-fi.

[@andrewderose4627]

is this the Etched screen or the glossy on the Oled Steam Deck? Sorry if this was asked or mentioned in the video.

[@TakiUdon]

etched

[@andrewderose4627]

thank you!@@TakiUdon

[@redcrimson1028]

Great video dude!!!! You gotta put some respect on that switch though!!! Switch is hanging in there!

[@Crispeecreem]

I never had a steam deck or felt one, how does the buttons, sticks and dpads feel up there? just looks akward up there instead of how the switch is. I am very interested in this and will get one but just wondering about those placements

[@lilsourkraut1498]

The button placement is much more ergonomic than the switch especially with that right joystick I loved my switch OLED but I couldn't play for too long without my hand cramping up the deck is a big boy but it feels great

[@Crispeecreem]

@lilsourkraut1498 ah thats perfect! I have the exact same problem with my switch lol, getting mines in a few days, thanks 👍

[@lilsourkraut1498]

@@Crispeecreem that's awesome enjoy it the deck is amazing I have the LCD but I'm really considering getting the OLED

[@Crispeecreem]

@lilsourkraut1498 that's honestly the biggest reason I'm getting it, for the OLED screen, i don't have an OLED tv or monitor and I have the OG switch too, so I really wanna play my games on an OLED screen, and even better on my bed after a long day of work lol

[@lilsourkraut1498]

@@Crispeecreem oh yeah it makes the game look so much better OLED is no joke and is a night and day difference plus the better battery is nice too

[@GoldenAdhesive]

is ithe bezel to display ratio seem better on the oled? looks on the comparison shots like you gain 2mm ish on each side

[@-Sangral-]

When you compare the Switch OLED with the Deck OLED, did you change anything in the color settings of the new Deck with the new color settings that came with Steam OS 3.5 or is the Deck on Default? You know, these new settings with default, srgb and boosted.

[@rrahll]

Awesome review! Liked and subscribed! Thanks mate!

[@supalognon]

It would be great to cover the data transfer from an original Steam Deck to the Oled one. I personally have spent a lot of time configuring emulators and the emulated games. So i would like a completely lossless process. Thanks in advance

[@TakiUdon]

Noted

[@oladipupodurotimi4754]

​@@TakiUdonpls does the same ssd from the lcd deck works automatically with the oled deck too?

[@vigneshudaya2379]

Confused between ally and legion go, is it better to wait for legion go(not launched yet at my place) or to get ally for a lower price?

[@SONBADGUY]

Get the Go. It's the best video game system ever made.

[@ChaosDom69]

im happy with my original deck but i am so looking forward to steam deck 2 in the future