This Ship Has Been Abandoned for 35 Years - Here’s Why

[@ITSHISTORY]

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[@gilbertoavina6156]

As a trucker, i used to go constantly to the port yard next to the silos. I always wondered why it was there and wanted to climb on one day. Of course i never did.

[@Dave-dn3tz]

Medusa.

[@theequalizer9154]

There are such ships in every major port Doc in the United States. Glad you put this out. There is one such ship in every major port in the U.S. for at least 50 years.

[@FredricoMayonetti]

You should have just googled it 🤭

[@adriaanboogaard8571]

I would probably want to do the same thing, but sometimes it's your gut really telling you no for safety reasons. In those times, eventually, you will be made aware of why.

[@Colbleep1]

⁠@@adriaanboogaard8571you are right to be afraid. I was assigned to the Philadelphia Navy Yard. There was a ship there awaiting scrapping,the USS Shangri La, an aircraft carrier. Someone assigned to the yard went aboard looking for usable parts. An open hatch fell on him killing him. Stay away.

[@erikmutthersbough6508]

It's not totally abandoned and forgotten. There is an urban explorer video taken inside the ship. Where there are some lights on deep inside and you can hear a pump or generator running. So it's being looked after. Probably just enough to keep it afloat

[@timsullivan3752]

@@erikmutthersbough6508 I heard that the city spends a lot of money to keep that ship there, lots of maintenance!

[@erikmutthersbough6508]

@timsullivan3752 I imagine that they don't want it to sink and be a bigger problem.

[@dyslectische]

Its like all things in usa. Dump it and let it rot than clean it up. Always go for the cheap solution The usa way .

[@792slayer]

Ships in the Great Lakes don't generally take much upkeep if they're tied up, due to the cold, fresh water. Rust moves a lot slower.

[@0fficialdregs]

@@792slayer agreed and it's not hard to move the ship just take logistic and the right company

[@uncommon_niagara1581]

In 1974, while she was known as the Steel to, she struck a bridge on the Weekend Canal. The bridge was demolished and never replaced.

[@uncommon_niagara1581]

...known as the Steelton... Curse you, autocorrect!

[@johnstudd4245]

Weekend canal?

[@uncommon_niagara1581]

Welland Canal; autocorrect got me twice!

[@darksuns7384]

Oh yeah, I know that ship. Helped the tug company move it to where it is now. St. Mary's cement (formerly Medusa cement) used to offload their cargo ships into that ship, then offload into their silos because it was faster. Then, they got a new system and the old ship became redundant. It was supposed to be scrapped but, some issue came about with it being cut up. By the time whatever problem prevented the boat from being scrapped was resolved, the price of scrap fell drastically and it was left to rot next to those old silos.

[@0fficialdregs]

sounds about right sadly

[@jimtaylor294]

Would make quite a nice Houseboat... Err Ship, if converted.

[@zondervonstrek]

I saw an urban exploration video where a guy got on the ship. It was in pretty good condition given its age and the interior was in great shape considering how long it has been abandon for.

[@BLACKAAROW]

I guess since it’s docked near the lakes and not the ocean, the ship didn’t get rusty from the salty sea breeze

[@janetd5121]

@@BLACKAAROW It's all fresh water there on the great lakes so they don't have the same issue as ocean going ships. Its not unusual for great lakes ships to be in service for 50 or more years.

[@chouseification]

if you want to go inside a similar ship (still in great condition), visit Duluth and tour the SS William A. Irvin. It's a normal tour during summers, but haunted for Halloween in the fall (UMD theater students lead you through the hold, filled with "ghosts" etc)

[@jasonkoc3997]

Thanked for bringing light to that Old Ship. I worked next door to those grain elevators years ago. It was a scrap yard that is obviously no longer there . But it's Office building is still there as show in your video. There is always something new to learn watching these videos. Thanks

[@ryguy32789]

OMG I have driven by this ship EVERY DAY FOR A DECADE and every single time I wondered to myself why it was there. I love you.

[@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE]

One of the last existing lakers with a reciprocating steam engine (Triple Expansion). Worth preserving and saving.

[@michigandon]

Last intact, unmolested "Maritimer" too!

[@thomasreinker3402]

Pretty sure it’s gutted.

[@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE]

​@thomasreinker3402 there is an urban explorer video that goes interior and clearly shows it's not gutted. The triple is still there in all it's glory.

[@jimtaylor294]

Would make quite a nice Houseboat... Err Ship, if converted. In my country the majority of canal boats are former industrial vessels, now semi-stationary homes and travelling residences.

[@PedroKing19]

@@jimtaylor294 which country is that? I'd love to see more of it

[@Burdysc]

I drive past this ship everyday. I live right by it. Ive always wondered about the history of it and now i know.

[@CrashTestRC1]

So glad to see this video. Probably driven past this ship 100 times on my Way to Chicago. Always wondered why it was there.

[@EdwardChen0]

Same here!! I always make a mental note to Google it, but never have

[@Fossillarson]

Storage vessel for many years. Others tied up all over great lakes. Old oil tankers they use as Storage tanks as well. 😅 ​@EdwardChen0

[@lenking410]

Do some research online. This video breakdown of her is pure laughable garbage written by and aimed at people who know nothing of the ship, or lakes shipping in general. 0 of 5 stars

[@gothjim325]

My old stomping ground growing up.. I use to climb the railroad bridge. They had the old outdoor drive in just across in Whiting. Now it's a well manicured dead zone of nothing.

[@TedSwitzer]

I’ve fished in that little cut many times. Good bass, drum, and a random king salmon a number of years ago. Gotta love Lake Calumet!

[@bentighe4811]

The ship was taken out of service because other, newer, more suitable and capable vessels replaced it. The real question is why the ship still exists at all.

[@prestonshort2645]

Costs more than it's worth too scrap it.

[@peter-pg5yc]

No one want to pay to remove and scrap it.

[@alexpartridge1989]

Or cause the Edmund Fitzgerald sank in Lake Superior and it’s almost the exact same ship that was doing the exact same thing.

[@xtreker15]

Not being a self-unloader makes it difficult to haul cargo to great lakes ports. The Edward L Ryerson sitting in Superior Wisconsin going on 15 years with the same issue. Unpopular opinion: The Edmund Fitzgerald would have met the same fate of being scrapped or converted is she had not sunk.

[@J.R.in_WV]

That’s a realistic opinion. The Fitz wasn’t really special by the time it went down. It had nicer interior fittings being the company flagship and had a slight speed advantage, but there were other similarly sized and fast ships like the Ryerson that wound up being laid up or scrapped in the last 30 years. The Fitz was rough, that’s one thing most everyone agrees on, and all those storms it was put through didn’t do it any favors.

[@hillogical]

Chicago still processes a lot of freight. One of the largest intermodal freight ports is in the Chicago area.

[@rjgoniea]

Definitely the oldest laker parked around the Great Lakes that I know of, but also not the only one. Up in Duluth Harbor, the Edward L Ryerson has sat in a slip on the Superior WI side of the harbor since 2009, but also had periods of storage from 1986-1987, 1994-1997, and 1998 to 2006. The Ryerson entered service in 1960, but since it hasn't as yet been converted to a self unloader it currently has little use on the Lakes. The other ship I know to be in long term lay-up is the John Sherwin II. Built in 1958, the ship has been in lay-up since 1981, though it has moved around a bit. It started in Superior WI, moved to Chicago in Sept 2006 and stayed there till Aug 2008. It was then towed to Bay Shipbuilding in Sturgeon Bay WI where work on upgrades started, but the economic downturn that year halted work. The Sherwin was towed to it's current location near Detour Village on the eastern tip of the Upper Peninsula in Oct 2009 where it has remained ever since. Like the Ryerson, the Sherwin does not have a self unloader so it's also likely to stay put for the foreseeable future unless the economy makes upgrades worth the cost.

[@forumicebreaker]

Where the Ford sat on the Superior side as extra holding space there is a different ship there now, the Ford was scrapped as I heard.

[@frozentundra52]

@@forumicebreakerIt’s was scrapped. 😢

[@awildjared1396]

The painful one was a year and a half ago when the S. T. Crapo was scrapped in port colborne, built in 1927 and laid up in Green Bay, WI since the late 90s.

[@jameskubica5463]

The American Valor (formerly Armco) is still laid up Toledo, hope she gets back to service too, probably more likely than the Ryerson or the Sherwin I would think, just because she's already a self unloader. I would like to see all three back in action though. The Roger Blough would be cool to see repaired and back in action too.

[@jonnda]

I'm going to comment the same thing I did elsewhere. I don't know if this is Steelton 3, or steelton 4 that is now known as ctc1. "In late 1965, the Frank Purnell {2} was traded to Bethlehem Steel Corporation’s Great Lakes Steamship Division for their identical L6-S-B1 Maritime Class vessel Steelton {3}. The two companies swapped the vessels because Interlake wanted to convert one of their Maritime Class ships into a self-unloader, but the Frank Purnell‘s tank top had recently been replaced. Bethlehem’s Steelton was in need of a new tank top, so the companies decided to swap the vessels, and the Frank Purnell {1} was renamed Steelton {4} and the Steelton {3} was renamed Frank Purnell {2}." Its all understandably confusing.

[@Steven_Williams]

Wow! Just passed this on the Bishop Ford Expressway yesterday getting off at 130th St. Used to pass this a lot as a child.

[@THEGODROD]

As a Great Lakes freighter enthusiast, it pains me to see such a classic beauty sitting at the dock rusting away. It’s not that uncommon of a sight honestly. I can think of other ships that are in a similar situation.

[@tomasjosefvela1]

Many memories passing this by to and from various family get - togethers as a kid... no seat belt, eyes closed, head hanging out the window breathing in that odd pungent smelling air. I knew exactly what i was going to see when i opened my eyes, out of focus as the 60mph wind first hit then the tears as my body over corrected. I'd turn my face back into the car gasping to catch my breath wiping the tears from my cheek, I'd imagine being on that boat sitting alone staring at the cars as they passed by imagining I'd catch a glimpse of myself passing by in that car...

[@markjefferson5512]

Ryan you are becoming a Chicago legend yourself.

[@arichithechimericvelvetwol84]

Why scrap the old girl? Turn her into a floating museum of the past history she played a role in.

[@jimtaylor294]

Amen, or at least convert her into a Houseboat...ship 🙂

[@weerwolfproductions]

What are you, a communist? Are you going to pay for that? Maintenance, guides, guards, upgrade to her safety for landlubbers to walk around etc all cost money.

[@leftylou6070]

Nice vid! Thanks for the presentation.

[@edwardlemus9483]

thanks for making a video on it ive passed it many times hauling loads as a truck driver and I wondered what it was doing just sitting there rotting away

[@inspiredwoodworks4131]

I did the exact same, for the exact same reasons. Keep that shiny side up!

[@nicholasseidel2065]

I have wondered about this ship for like ten years. Thank you SO MUCH for making this!

[@CliveReddin]

That steel is in very high demand. Being from 1943, it isn't contaminated with minor trace radiation as all steel made after1945 is.

[@johnstudd4245]

That used to be true but not nearly as much today. And it really would not matter when it was made, if something has been constantly exposed to the atmosphere since then, it will be slightly contaminated.

[@darksuns7384]

Not really, it was supposed to be scrapped in 09. Didn't happen, price of scrap fell. That's why it sits there.

[@ginadelsasso288]

​@@darksuns7384Joliet used to have a steel mill. They could have floated it down river and had it scrapped in the 1970s but it's all shut down now. Steel is cheaper from China than it is to recycle here.

[@strychnyne3530]

China would have bought it then. They're raiding ship wrecks from ww2 for the steel.

[@nealc.6927]

Nope. That only counts when the ship had been sunk BEFORE the Manhattan Project test & subsequent attacks on Japan.

[@ethanspaziani1070]

I seriously hope that she gets saved she deserves it she is a piece of History She ain't dead but mostly forgotten that's for sure

[@donaldcarey114]

Preserving a ship costs money - LOTS of money. If you care then help raise money - LOTS of money.

[@thomasreinker3402]

Nah this ship has almost no significant history or purpose to be saved. It’s actually in horrible shape and has been for years. Rather see they Edward l ryerson or another nice freighter get saved.

[@jaynebennett2063]

The SS Spartan has also been abandoned in Ludington, MI for decades.Once one of the stars of the trans-lake car ferry fleet, she sits aging in Ludington with seemingly no plan for her future. She has been heavily cannibalized for parts for her sister ship, SS Badger. Sad.

[@illstate00]

You have just answered the question of one of the Southside's greatest mysteries. Thank You!!!

[@Greezy42]

Wonderful map and illustration at 2:40 and 3:00 that I've never seen before. Thank you Ryan!

[@7viewerlogic670]

Great video!

[@uniquelyunique1]

Thank you!! Live in Chicago & never knew why the same ship was just docked there. Be nice if they can decommission & recycle the dismantled parts.😊

[@StevenFuller55]

1. These History videos are so well written, they are a pleasure to listen to. 2. There must have been a lot of these ships (one comment says 16) and I wonder what happened to all the others. Scrap?

[@awildjared1396]

Yes, this ship was one of the L6-S-B1 "maritimer" class, one was scrapped in 1962, one sank in 1987 while being towed for scrap overseas (the Thomas Wilson (2)), two more scrapped in 1988, another in 1989, one in 2006, and the last 2 have been cut up after than pandemic, the last pair to be cut up were the MV Mississagi, and the MV Manistee.

[@wilelowman]

I remember the Medusa when still would sail the Chicago river. There were newspaper warning to commuters of bridge delays. Some bridges would get stuck from opening for such a large ship. As if this ship was cursed.

[@WAL_DC-6B]

Wasn't that the Medusa Challenger that went up the Chicago River?

[@Jim-op3kg]

I remember that light blue ship but I remember it being in Milwaukee for years and it was named Medusa! Was this the same ship???

[@laserbeam1620]

I've seen this ship my entire life. It's cool knowing it's history now. Love the channel but miss the old intro music. Lol

[@JohnJohnson-ud5fl]

I found an article that was dated from long before this video was put up. It’s a piece of history that looked like it would be destined for scrap and was supposed to have been scrapped in 2020. Kinda cool that it’s still around

[@lucasdeaver9192]

I grew up near the Detroit river in the 1970's. I'd see these ships go by one after the other. Even saw the Edmond Fitzgerald.

[@SB-qm5wg]

Perfect metaphor 📉

[@denniscrane9753]

There’s a video on KZbin of a local young man who actually went on inside this ship and did a little tour lol! These old ships always reach the same ending, scrap or a diving destination! If allowed!

[@Cue-pv3jg]

Always wondered about that ship driving by thru the years, thanks!

[@michael_Boskosticks]

I live sort of near there and I always drove past it and wondered what it was doing there. Thanks for the vid

[@MoonMan1267]

There's a big freighter sitting in a dock here in Toledo. It's been sitting there for years too, I wonder what the plans are for it.

[@Giversum]

It is an asbestos laden heavy fuel burning steamer that likely wasn't lengthened like many others in the 70's. The Valor will sit and rot, most likely. It's best chance at further life is being cut down to a barge.

[@smittycb10]

Awesome, I have always wondered what the story was behind the ghost ship.

[@Wowflunky]

I pass by this every time i visut family in indiana. always wondered about it.

[@liam1428]

EXCELLENT essay. It's nice to have an article like this done by you since so much of KZbin is fabricated by AI ... Please continue posting your content.

[@Chips2323]

Hi Professor Socash, how are you hope all is well, thanks for this, Its History, again great info again , be safe and be at Peace...

[@b0rd3n]

the channel's volume always surprises me... either too or not enough. BTW, thank you for changing the 'theme' and it's loudness, it was hard on headphone users!

[@t.l.robinson2162]

@@b0rd3n you can always use your volume control.

[@b0rd3n]

@t.l.robinson2162 yeah, sure, but with headphones, it shocks you real good.

[@b0rd3n]

@@t.l.robinson2162 thanks for the brilliant reminder btw

[@t.l.robinson2162]

@b0rd3n excellent!

[@Dacheat]

Ryan, I've been watching your Channel for quite some time. I finally decided to Google you.☺ You seem to have such a interesting back story with you living in Poland for that amount of time and having a Radio Show. I'm Subscribed to over 60 Channels & I got to say your Channel is my favorite! Keep it up Ryan, you are really on to something with the style & quality of your Content. Best Regards, Timothy ✌

[@ITSHISTORY]

Timothy, that comment means the world to me - I never really expected people back home would enjoy my work, I was pretty much an outcast in America. This video will sum everything up best kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3bIeGVmpq-Lobcfeature=shared otherwise, if you visit Poland 🇵🇱 let me know!

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Great topic!

[@austinskeens8983]

Dude I've been waiting for a video about this!!! I see it every day and has always struck my curiosity, thank you!

[@PelhamExpress]

I think we got one over in Brooklyn. Seen it since I was in my twenties.

[@NIN34]

The simple version is by 1979 there were larger and more efficient ships built to replace the older ones. the vessel was aging with antiquated engines and as the economy started to decline the vessel was repurposed.

[@kevinharms7578]

I always wondered about that ship being there , never moved, thanks for the history lesson. Unfortunately it would cost in the billions to renovate that area , no draw.

[@midbc1midbc199]

It's crazy the Ai videos pumping out

[@garypiont6114]

Super vid. Thankyou.

[@jeremycole8663]

Thank you!!!

[@RevolverRho]

I guess you could say this is a ghastly situation

[@mariom6616]

I pass this ship twice a day. Very cool now knowing the history behind it.

[@INFMAR1]

I just drove by that vessel yesterday, she's been there for a long time,I always wanted to know what her story was.

[@strychnyne3530]

First time seeing one of your videos. I must say that its well done. Any video of the Chicago worlds fair would be great. would love to know what happened to the moving sidewalk or people mover.

[@NickKlein-it1ej]

i have seen this boat so many times i have been wondering about it

[@davidkimmel5153]

Thanks very much. Very interesting.

[@Killerean]

In case you're not here for the filler, the content starts at roughly 5:00.

[@GarrettsGear]

@@Killerean thanks. Ryan So-Yap won't shut up 😂

[@jeffirish3402]

I suspect that Grand River Navigations has been hanging on to her with the intention that she might eventually be converted to a self unloading barge for either bulk freight or cement- the upper decks will be removed and a notch will constructed on her stern so she can be coupled to a tug. This has been an increasingly common way to repurpose older hulls and make them profitable and useful.

[@edwardpersico2001]

do a video on the Loujaine! been docked in Brooklyn since I think 1985 being used for cement powder storage

[@MrDannyZ28]

The ship that sat in that spot before The CTC was used as the jokers hideout (Heath Leger) in the Dark Knight 2008. The CTC was still there just a bit north.

[@natedon703]

Ive driven past and been right next to this boat a ton of times. I Also saw the video of the explorer who went aboard. It is competely left to rot, but it is covered with asbestos paint so, its just really unsafe to be around.

[@williammarkle3299]

Nice content - I subscribed

[@beaniemac]

I've been wondering why this ship has been here for many years!!! Now I know🎉

[@bradkrekelberg8624]

It's one of only two of its class remaining out of the original 16 "Maritimers". Would be cool to see it used for something, but there are several other idle lakers, most of which are in better condition. Thanks for the video! It would be cool to see a more in depth look at what sort of docks there were around Chicago. I know there was one that had Hullett unloaders, but I don't know any details.

[@keithshergold9257]

The is one has a reciprocating engine however, which are getting to be quite rare!

[@0fficialdregs]

my family drive pass that location when we head to the southside of chicago. i always see the silos but never the ship.

[@MalcomHeavy]

Skip to 5:42 to get to why you came here. Thank me later.

[@Hiddensecret9]

That sounds like an interesting spot to work near! It’s always intriguing to wonder about the purpose of places like that, especially when they're close to something as industrial as silos. Did you ever get any answers to why they were there, or did the curiosity just stay with you?

[@TheAlixour]

It'd be cool to restore it and send it to the museum

[@TERRYBIGGENDEN]

Fascinating and a lovely vessel Hoever, why did you show a very modern vessel when you were referring to her past history???

[@Michael-fl1tm]

Hopefully the next video talks about the freighter

[@donaldblow4047]

I was also a trucker and remember seeing that ship

[@johnstudd4245]

There is a ship breaking yard in Port Colborne Canada that scraps retired lakers constantly. I don't see why this ship would be any more difficult or costly.

[@onrr1726]

It would be hard to move it in its current condition. There is always a possibility that it might not even be floating anymore but sitting on tons of silt that have collected under it over the years. Even if it was sitting on silt just moveing it along with a dredge could cause the ship to sink in place.

[@johnstudd4245]

@@onrr1726 "It would be hard to move it in its current condition". Do you know that to be fact? What is its current condition? You don't know till you try. At some point it would not surprise me that it will be abandoned due to bankruptcy or something of that nature and the taxpayers will foot the bill to get it to the breakers and hopefully recover the cost in scrap money. Anybody with any nautical knowledge knows it will never be brought back into service as it was, but it is being maintained to a certain extent, so only time will tell what happens.

[@davidjones332]

@@johnstudd4245 The chances are that no towing company would want to risk moving it in case it sinks under tow. They would need a huge insurance policy against that risk, so someone, presumably the port authority or the state would need to underwrite that risk. That would require an expensive inspection before you could even think of moving it, and by the time all the costs are totted up and added to the cost of dismantling it, they will outweigh what it's worth as scrap. The danger now is that whatever care-and-maintenance regime exists will break down for some reason (possibly, as you say, bankruptcy), and it will sink at its moorings, compounding the problems.

[@mortmcfly397]

there is a very similar ship near a silo in Buffalo. it is also right next to a silo. Just seeing the title and picture I thought this video was about that ship. I wonder if that might be a sister ship also used as a storage barge

[@MidwestFlesh]

i would pay to explore it!!!

[@kylenovak3410]

I have driven pass that my entire life. I'm thirty five years old and i've lived in north waest Indiana and go to chicago a lot and yeah, it's just always been sitting there and I kind of always wondered why

[@kenlang5268]

Here we go again with a long winded documentary about Chicago's early commerce before FINALLY addressing the main subject. I've seen that rusting hulk many times departing Chicago. It would be cool to see the interior.

[@keyboardwarrior327]

Seriously, the video was half over before the subject was addressed.

[@EGSBiographies-om1wb]

This was interesting .

[@kylefoster9326]

The ctc is owned by Grand River Navigation, a subsidiary of Rand Logistics. They pay the port authority a fee for docking it there.

[@kitt2000car]

Thank goodness for the mute button. I use it every time a youtuber starts flogging some type of product. Most do it in the middle of their video. But here it starts at the beginning.

[@jrmills2468]

I feel like it's history only makes videos when he gets a new sponsorship

[@kitt2000car]

@@jrmills2468 And so many are peddling surf-shark most annoying. Some youtubers I refuse to watch anymore. Because all they do in their videos push their products on the viewers. I do not come here to buy their stuff.

[@subjectc7505]

​@@kitt2000carthen don't buy it, that's the point of it.

[@GarrettsGear]

Delete me is ight at least.

[@kitt2000car]

@@subjectc7505 You certainly have that right. I refuse to buy anything thats advertised on youtube.

[@76629online]

Imagine if the people of 1870 Chicago could see what it was like today - I bet they'd all move to Texas.

[@rogerrendzak8055]

This ship just doesn't reflect the misfortune's of the city, and it's decline, but at the United States, as a whole. America is broken, and it's it's gonna get, alot worse😞……..

[@JJMHigner]

Articles state it was used in the Batman Dark Knight film but actually the John Sherwin was used, also laid up since the early 1980s but in much better shape and larger.

[@markdi2]

Why does videos like this turn into a long history lesson why not just tell us about the ship and why it has been docked there for so long

[@MasterMalrubius]

@@markdi2 It’s a freighter. Is that good enough for you?

[@CrusaderSports250]

My thought as well, over half the artical was about the city, a five minute post would have been fine.

[@t.j.lemaster8653]

Because to learn about the ship you have to learn about the history.... Here I'll help you out it was a ship that carried important freight. There you don't have to watch the video

[@markdi2]

@t.j.lemaster8653 too late

[@GarrettsGear]

This video was a certified yap fest

[@Wheelgauge-bt7ox]

The ship was also in a scene in the Blues Brothers movie.

[@CliveReddin]

That was W. W. Holloway operated by Columbia Transportation Division of Oglebay Norton. Laid up in Toledo, Ohio, 7 December 1981, sold for scrap 1985, towed to Brazil August 26 1986, arriving October 24. Originally launched in 1906.

[@The52car]

If you're talking about the seen where they jumo the 95th street bridge, No.

[@mebeasensei]

Video starts 2:23

[@notyou6950]

Scrap prices must still be low. Otherwise that thing be gone by now.

[@Chris46319]

It's not that easy. In America, that ship would need to be dismantled (scrapped) in a dry dock due to EPA standards. There aren't any dry docks in the area that can handle a boat of that size. Now it isn't seaworthy enough to even tow to the nearest dry dock.

[@notyou6950]

@Chris46319 how about wait for a really dark night and pay off a tug crew and take it to a deep water...

[@Chris46319]

@notyou6950 that's more of a Mayor Daley tactic lol. Still, I'd think the EPA would want to know where several thousand tons of a ship "disappeared" to. The minute someone sees that boat moving the news will be all over it, even at night.

[@The52car]

asbestos

[@notyou6950]

@The52car deep part of the lake it is then...Who got the tugg?

[@peterkennedy5596]

2:30 mins before the video begins what waste

[@andrewyoung2796]

I was wondering if we were ever going to hear from the ship

[@marksimpson100]

Born in Collingwood where we built lake freighters since the 1800s.been on a couple of 700 footers.its cool for a trip but not full time. Lol. You wouldn't believe how much they bend and twist

[@j887276]

I can almost guarantee gentrification will bring waterfront condos like what happened I east coast cities in once industrial areas like this. At that time they will probably sink it for an "artificial reef" to avoid salvage/environmental costs.

[@aspiceronni4462]

3:54 Nice picture of a whale back freighter.

[@Heepster69]

Wasn't this ship the Steelton(?) in the earlyb70s? The shio that took out the Port Robinson bridge in the Welland canal (1974)

[@Telecoaster94music]

If I’m not mistaken, I think this ship made a 5 second cameo in “The Dark Knight”

[@PhantomP63]

I was wondering if that’s the case, as Dark Knight was filmed in Chicago.

[@85Connor]

Wonder what the cost, logistics, risk or environmental impacts would be if they were to tow it out and scuttle it in the ocean. It’s been a US navy practice for years, but the risk may be too high given the age and condition of this ship.