This Shouldn't Be Legal

[@penguinz0]

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[@WheatpersonYT]

No

[@moonlightuwu3252]

Penguinz0 fans 👇

[@LordWatermelon]

Hey 😊

[@error_v19]

No

[@mysticwolf510]

Deal

[@darthzayexeet3653]

Imagine if you bought an expensive car and a few years later a guy from the car dealership knocks at your door and says: “You haven’t used your car enough in the last 30 days, so we’re taking it back…”

[@ciphergacha9100]

They won’t do it if you click the thing that tells them not to do it, it’s the equivalent of telling the the guy to stop and he just stops

[@SlavTiger]

There's reasons for castle doctrine. Just a joke for legal reasons though.

[@bobspalding2477]

@@ciphergacha9100Why would you have to do that for something you paid for? That’s a fucking pathetic mentality. Not to mention circumstances where people don’t see or don’t access their emails very often. “Oh you weren’t home so we took your car anyway.” Or, we could try this: when you pay for something, you own it. Plain and simple.

[@FiksIIanzO]

​@@bobspalding2477Fun idea, to own things you pay for. Unfortunately, western ownership and licensing laws are a hellscape invented by people who lived 200 years ago and refusing to catch up with times because they're _extremely_ pro-corporate, and corporate of all people have the power to keep them that way.

[@sykomaniax187]

So basically ferrari

[@Nickoftime2023]

It's crazy to me that taking away a digital product without your consent, that you paid for isn't illegal. Yet, obtaining said digital product without paying for it, is.

[@mydogeatspuke]

It is in the EU/UK. US consumer protections are atrocious.

[@NigerianCrusader]

OBLIVION ISNT LIKE THAT

[@lelyou]

Land of the account free baby

[@NigerianCrusader]

@@lelyou WHAT DO UOU MEAN

[@burtreynolds8030]

@@NigerianCrusaderI think he’s talking about sailing the high seas

[@BlackKoiRecords]

This is ridiculous. I am in the Navy. I go on half a year plus deployments with no internet at times. I can't keep hopping on to logins for everything just to keep the things I should own.

[@JohnDoe-rh7vh]

Badass

[@theh0pester929]

Thank you for your service brother

[@TopusSoftware]

BUT OUR DATABASE

[@thegreatpiginthesky3904]

Well, your first mistake was joining the navy

[@F4UC3]

you've got bigger things to worry about aside from logging in...

[@saywa8620]

This is opening a door for so many phishing scams if it becomes a commonplace practice

[@retrohanska4441]

@@BlackLivesMatter1414 work in any kind of tech support for few weeks or just ask someone who has about their experiences and you know how tech illiterate average person is and low the lower end can sink to. One of my personal favorites are the conspiracy nuts who think 5G will fry their brains and that FBI is constantly spying on them (this isn't in US) yet will give you their credit card numbers and passwords for slightest prompt. When it comes to those kind of people it's literally just dumb luck if they manage to avoid a scam and no amount of education will change that.

[@fedorahatguys7979]

@Deadpoppthat’s on them 💀

[@fedorahatguys7979]

@@CaptSoapy maybe so, but I just feel this day n age people just need to be way more cautious than they are. Especially in the internet and considering how many scams there are now. I guess I can’t blame people for being ignorant but it’s hard to feel bad

[@spyfire242]

@@fedorahatguys7979 Some people literally don't have the mental capacity for it, people like my grandmother. Its kind of a moral quandary, do you mandate protection for people who can't protect themselves? How do you prove it? We cant get her to sign away her rights to manage her own money so it keeps going to the scams. Luckily she still keeps enough for herself to eat but its just ridiculous.

[@bdhhsgbyddhggg]

If I had a dollar for every bad decision Ubisoft has made, I’d be able to buy Ubisoft

[@juliehefte9360]

Fr

[@c.j.9080]

so true

[@danmanproking2179]

And I’d probably trust you running the company more than the dumbasses running it right now.

[@stprino]

​​​@DontReadMyProfilePicture.94what do you even get out of this bro theres literally no scam on your page or anything do you just do this for fun or is it one of em crazy ass kinks people got

[@shlokwaghela9560]

You could say that for literally every corporation you don't understand.

[@Blue-yf8ft]

Imagine going on a vacation for 30 days without checking your email and you see your Ubisoft account with all the games you had is gone forever. What a wonderful change.

[@Sheamcdonnell]

it's if you haven't touched the account for years, then don't login for 30 days after that email

[@BinalYT]

There's definitely going to be a few people out there that have been stationed abroad for their military for a couple years that get home to no games.

[@if7723]

30 days for now. Then 20. Then 10. Then 5 minutes.

[@shibuyes]

@@BinalYT Correct me if i'm wrong but typically military bases have internet access... lol

[@Soigenie]

It's reasonable but I think they should change how long your account can be inactive for before deleting it

[@TheMonkeOfficial]

I love that phishing emails can use "False urgency" legitimately to make you click the links in their emails when they pose as Ubisoft, as most people tend not want their account to be closed. You should never be forced to specifically click the links in the email, it just opens up opportunities of account theft

[@sithdude2436]

Seriously, my first thought seeing this E-mail was that it was a scam.

[@lainiwakura1776]

That's why you always check the email address of the sender and check where the link goes first by hovering your cursor over it.

[@TheMonkeOfficial]

@@lainiwakura1776 It's rather easy to spoof that. That's why you just don't click it to begin with. Overconfidence will always be your downfall.

[@Legoman775]

@@lainiwakura1776 yeah... you can still spoof that

[@QTpatootie95]

@@lainiwakura1776anyone can spoof an email lmao

[@sarougeau]

it blows my mind that Ubisoft would even think sending out notices like that is anything but dangerous. Getting an email from a company telling you your account will be suspended unless you click on a link and log in is a textbook example of a phishing attack and your instinct should be to ignore it.

[@RealRushinRussian]

Steam does a pretty good job at this. Any game that was pulled from the store - just stopped sales or was removed entirely - you can still keep and play if you purchased it.

[@vapinggranny2474]

Steam is king for good reason. They might drop games once a decade and be shit sometimes but they do care abt making their users happy and having a real community not just a game marketplace.

[@knighter1209]

@@vapinggranny2474 I mean, Valve was recently sued in an anti-trust lawsuit and the judge ruled they were illegally pricing games higher by charging game devs to publish on Steam.

[@chasejohnston9015]

​@@knighter1209better steam than epic lmao

[@GeneLagrimasJr]

@@knighter1209 This is true. Steam charges developers $100 per publish. That doesn't include DLCs and other content included after the game's release. Other platforms charge for a lot less.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

@DontReadMyProfilePicture.94 OK I won't you troll

[@berrymansir]

Ubisoft was really like “how can we make people as mad as possible?”

[@helidrops6824]

​@@k.w.6626my problem is im poor and can't afford wifi so I guess r6 is gone

[@Chromodar]

Yep. Most people who receive such an email will log into their account once just to make sure it stays, even if they do not intend to keep using it. They paid for those game after all, right? The only accounts UbiSoft will delete this way are people who missed the email. Literally the only ones who won't get mad are the deceased. As such, this policy is a controversy generator with no other benefit.

[@Lislio]

this isnt new, its been like this for years, and they dont even do it to accounts with games on it

[@NuchiAsaki]

Because they know gamers won't do anything about it. They will wave the next Assassin's Creed in front of us like jingling keys in front of a baby and gamers will climb over each other to buy it as fast as possible with their newly re-created Ubisoft accounts.

[@sinicule]

pretty sure it is in the Terms and Conditions

[@DJ_Dett]

Using a link to cancel an account closure sounds exactly like a phishing email scam. If they're really going to maintain a dumb policy like this, they could at least just instruct you to independently log into your own account, and then send a follow-up email saying the closure was cancelled. Otherwise, they're just opening up people to losing their accounts through a security breach.

[@bobmorane2082]

Ikr that’s exactly how phishing fraud works

[@aleksthedead]

This sounds like the scam Jim Browning fell for except it's fuckin real. Yuck

[@GameFuMaster]

like, gmail is literally just "log in and you'll keep your account active"

[@Curs___d27]

Fr that link looks sus asf

[@m0gi]

And now millions of people are gonna get fake scam links.

[@pardinator]

Imagine owning some board games, then the board game police walks in and says "You haven't played these board games in a while" and then takes them away.

[@themalware]

This is so dumn cos board games doesn't have access to your data. You know who else does?? Digital media companies, companies like riot games microsoft etc. They've also been doing it for a long time. So let me ask you a question say u have a steam account and u haven't logged on for years you're not even interested anymore would you want them to delete your personal information and data or say "Fuck it my data is worthless let them have it" which one would you rather have?

[@LucornTheCorn]

The Saiga-12 automatic shotgun under my bed after they take away mario monopoly:

[@Donn512]

I love how he goes on a whole Bernstein bear crisis just to say that companies make terrible decisions.

[@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah]

I don’t blame him, I swear on my two front teeth it was “Berenstein”. Even then, I thought it was “Bearstein”

[@andrew-dunai]

@@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah It is, in fact, Bloodstain.

[@ericb8689]

​@@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYahas a 30 year old, I can't remember it ever being Berenstain.

[@Just_A_Tim]

​@@ericb868929 here and same

[@RafaelMunizYT]

this wouldn't be a mandela effect if americans pronounced it right instead of pronouncing both berenstain and berenstein as "berensTEEN"

[@ExDementia666]

What's crazy to me is that just logging into your account doesn't reset the timer. You actually have to click the option to stop your account from being deleted. That means someone who committed the crime of missing an email could actually login and start playing the game they paid for... And still have their account deleted. Wild

[@nonyabidness8676]

This is especially absurd, because "click on a link or bad stuff will happen" is the basic cornerstone of phishing emails. Yes, signing back into your account should reset the timer. At least it should present you with the same link you can click on from inside the app.

[@cannedsquasher5923]

​@@nonyabidness8676better yet it just shouldn't happen. If my account gets deleted I will never even remotely think about another Ubisoft product.

[@BunPrince]

Guess what if you bought a game your account isn't eligible for deletion its in the same terms but they didn't read that part...

[@RomainDelmaire]

It's most likely on purpose so people have to buy the games again.

[@jet100a]

​​​@@BunPrincedude, they deleted accounts with paid content on them. What are you talking about?

[@20xd6]

"When you pirate a game you own it." ... This truly the most timeline of all time.

[@NigerianCrusader]

THATS BAD OBLIVION DOESNT DO THAT

[@shonenjumpmagneto]

*You don't own it unless you hold it or control it.*

[@NigerianCrusader]

@@shonenjumpmagnetoBUT U OWN OBLVIION ONCE U BUY IT

[@angel_of_rust]

@@NigerianCrusader your mom doesn't do that

[@NigerianCrusader]

@@angel_of_rust do WHAT?

[@isaacwest276]

Feeling really validated as someone who prefers game discs right now.

[@cephalonpobs5275]

Unfortunately all that modern game disks do is just preform as a physical key that unlocks the online version of the game for download. The game isn’t on the disk

[@orxy5316]

Same

[@iMortao]

Until they put an online patch for you to download

[@ariariaris]

I had to make an ubisoft account in order to replay my oldass AC: Brotherhood CD. I couldn’t even play without installing their launcher. Modern gaming is a joke, a cracked pirated copy i could burn into a CD myself would probably be more viable in the long term.

[@isaacwest276]

@@cephalonpobs5275 True but the collection looks real good on my shelf

[@ironnatepup]

"Piracy is almost always a service problem, not a price problem" - Gabe Newell, CEO of Valve

[@D1mly]

Arguable. I ain't paying for old CoD games as if they came out yesterday.

[@LordMegatherium]

@@D1mly That's why there's that "almost" caveat. If you don't want to get financially fingerfucked by Activision for a bit of nostalgia then no reduction of friction (pun not intended) in the process of buying and playing said game will convince you otherwise. Remember kids: piracy and theft are adjacent but also quite different.

[@Predated2]

@@D1mly True, but that's why Nintendo has piracy issues surrounding older games, not their newer games. Besides, the old games still giving revenue after they have already surpassed your profit expectations is just a bonus. The old CoD games already got their maximum profit, which is why you'll see them for any price between 1-25$.

[@perrypereyra6671]

hmmm, not really, Autodesk really priced their shi t so high it just ridiculous

[@Goose____]

in first world country yes, in poor countries, definitely not

[@40088922]

Charles really raised a point I never really thought about: with digital-only games, the only way to really own a game is to pirate it. this is so surreal, why aren't more people talking about it? it's not just the game development part of the industry that needs to rethink things, distribution also, apparently

[@littlegirlshowSynch]

It's something that's been talked about since digital-only games existed lol

[@tticusFinch]

It's like streaming only movies/shows. I want to own a copy, not pay a monthly sub to access that one movie/show

[@PainfullyCasual]

I have been pirating ubisoft games for a good year now. I only own AC Origins because it got very cheap on steam. But knowing this now I will continue on pirating their games 😂😂😂😂

[@1stCallipostle]

​@@tticusFinchAnd in that case, pirating is even EASIER. Seriously, I can find a link to a show I want to watch where I'm not "supposed to" faster than digging up the family streaming service password

[@SPVC3D0UT]

Been saying this for years.

[@DemienC.]

"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem" - Gaben

[@zachdk]

The price of games and services keep going up but my vpn stays the same 🤔

[@Derivedwhale45]

No it's a people problem and they must be dealt with along with Gabe himself

[@Sebastian_Rabbit]

​@@Derivedwhale45i'll take a pirate game/service for free over some overpriced crap anyday

[@newerest1]

I love steam so much I don't even mind paying for games twice if it means I get a copy on steam (versaus my old CD/DVD only retail release) I could just as easily pirate but steam has great deals so often my biggest complaint with steam is that not every game is on it

[@Operative85]

Right. If someone couldn't afford it, then they wouldn't buy your game anyways, so you never lost a customer if they pirate. But if you make a game harder or even impossible to obtain (or in this case, make a game disappear from your library), then prepare to lose potential, current, and future customers.

[@chrisc.2626]

I’ve been worried about this for a while. Even if the games’ accesses aren’t revoked by the company itself, there will be a day where the online service or the company hosting the game will go belly up and every title you own under it will be inaccessible forever due to everything being digital and requiring online service.

[@alexradice8163]

Sonys not going within 70 years

[@Purturtur]

​@@alexradice8163it was only a year ago that Sony had planned to permanently shutdown PS3 and Vita services. Thankfully the community forced them to change their minds. Just because a company still exists doesn't mean they won't revoke your access to services.

[@alexradice8163]

@Purturtur I think you misunderstood how that worked. Players would still have access to all their games on ps3, they just wouldn't be able to use online/purchase new ps3 games

[@MyVanir]

@@alexradice8163 And that was equally retarded.

[@cirion66]

SW dev here (not a DB architect tho) - If their primary accounts database/table is poorly made for scalability, then it could legitimately help them freeing up rows of inactive users - IMO large majority of existing rows in the table are inactive users. BUT - outright deleting is a terrible way to do things, they could achieve the same level of optimisation without pissing off the users by "deactivating the inactive users" - remove them from the primary DB and migrate them into an archival DB, that does not need to be as fast/ efficient - If someone later returns, that user could go through a reinstating process, where the account is restored from the archive into the production DB. System architects did just that on a project I worked on - one heavily used list was getting so bloated, that the performance was negatively affected, so they made rules for an automatic + manual archival. The production list got significantly faster and if someone needed to browse through the archives once in a while, they could wait a couple of extra seconds.

[@LocrianDorian]

I suspect there might be legal reasons why they want to do this on top of maintaining their DB. Either way, anybody that couldn't see this coming is delusional.

[@0NeeN0]

That was my first thought as someone who coded basic stuff in hs. Why not make it inactive on archivable server even with speed capacity of a floppy disk, that's more than enough to send a request to transfer back to the main base

[@grunkleg.2934]

My assumption with their reasoning is that inactive accounts usually tend to be security liabilities, hence why you also see inactive account deletion from things like banks, credit card companies, even Google has plans in the works to do this after accounts have been inactive for I think 2 years

[@ivbplays5146]

As a data engineer, I 100% agree- moving them into a separate DB would be a good solution but also I'm not too familiar with the data laws they are mentioning

[@saverenus]

My initial thought was that they're trying to increase their chances of selling more games once someone is forced to log back in. They probably assume if they show game ads to more people then the chances of someone purchasing that game increase. But it's a ridiculosly stupid fucking way of boosting sales revenue that doesn't address the fundamental issue - most their games and services suck ass.

[@pollointerestelar7439]

I hate that video game companies nowadays punish you for buying a game legally...

[@knighter1209]

I mean, according to their TOS and EULA (which you have to agree to in order to play their games) they quite literally can do this legally. "These Terms are effective unless and until terminated by either You or UBISOFT. These Terms may be terminated or suspended at any time, without notice, for any reason, including without limitation due to violations of the Code of Conduct. If you have more than one Account, We reserve the right to delete all the Accounts you have opened." "The EULA is effective from the earlier of the date You purchase, download or use the Product, until terminated according to its terms. You and UBISOFT (or its licensors) may terminate this EULA, at any time, for any reason"

[@theunknowman12]

And they still wonder why people pirate their games

[@Alucard-mj6yj]

​@@knighter1209how to drive people to piracy 101

[@knighter1209]

@@Alucard-mj6yj thats difficult with online games, but yeah.

[@denjidenji9162]

@@knighter1209 i mean, there's been plenty of cases where EULAs have been wholesale thrown out of court, as they were deemed to not actually be valid. So no, just cause something is in the Terms and Conditions, doesn't mean they actually have a right to enforce it

[@lazersend]

Agreed it should be very illegal as Muta said people can potentially be losing hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of content

[@TrackpadProductions]

Remember a long time ago, when you could just buy a game, and then you _owned that game?_ Hot take time: if purchasing a game isn't ownership, then piracy isn't theft.

[@flamingscar5263]

that and you may have thousands of hours on a game like the division and then its just all gone, literally years of your life deleted

[@SyntaxWyntax]

If they bought ea games then that moneys already been lost

[@sigmamale4147]

@@TrackpadProductions piracy is not theft anyways

[@mlabs6005]

every day i agree more with the statement "piracy can't be stealing if paying for it isn't owning"

[@Jaebird2]

I just logged into steam after almost 9 years and still had everything. What a nostalgic rush I got from that 😂

[@MyVanir]

Steam is every habitual procrastinator's wet dream.

[@bungercolumbus]

It's funny how each game company (Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard & Activision) wanted to make their own game market different from Valve's Steam and they all failed.

[@GonzoDonzo]

And all they had to do was copy what steam did at an extremely basic level and they still failed. I loved origins offline mode that required you to login to use

[@DPedroBoh]

We have to be careful though. If steam fails in the future we're screwed. We have to fight for better right to own our software. With our wallets of course, sont buy from ubisoft and if valve comes up with bullshit we can't buy it.

[@0NeeN0]

@@GonzoDonzo Steam also works on extremely basic level, and that's why it works. They wanted to overdo them and in the process bent themselves and got fcked without even noticing

[@GravityApproaching]

they should copy gog simple recipe without using any drm and anti costumer practice

[@evdestroy5304]

​@DPedroBoh Steam has taken measures for you to keep your games if it ever goes down.

[@gregoryseraphin1426]

I 100% see a situation where within 30 days someone is unable to check emails. Like military deployment or an extended hospital/vacation.

[@NigerianCrusader]

TODD HIWARD WILL SENT U AN EMAL TO WORK ON ELDER SCROLLS SIX

[@slendydie1267]

Or just like any normal person you dont go checking your emails on a monthly basis. I have like 10k unread because every single service you register to, spams some random shit.

[@chubbyanemone696]

​@@slendydie1267?

[@Crow23346]

Or some crazy scenario like you survive a plane or boat crash and get deserted on some island, I mean always possible lol. Just imagine u survive for months maybe longer, on this fuckin island, u go through hell, you finally are rescued and come back, and ur so relieved and u just wanna dit down and play ur favourite game and THEY DELETED IT ALL.

[@matejbosela9093]

​@@chubbyanemone696Op meant probably something like my case. I have several hundreds of "spam" (like game sales) messages from Ubi on my personal gmail account alone. Their "deletion message" can be literally there, without me noticing for several months to years.

[@Kaisarfire]

You can disappear for 7 years and Steam won't even email you about it. Soon as you log in, it is like Cheers.

[@crzz.]

out of all ubisoft moments, this is DEFINITELY one of them.

[@Sleepyboi_U]

What’s with these bots bruh

[@xDbrad]

The funniest part about this "joke" is that it's so similar to the bot comments replying to it that I can't tell if you're a bot or not. Charlie's fans have to be some of the most unfunny, unoriginal people on KZbin lmao

[@lakibadhikari7930]

Honestly you're cringe

[@namenlosNamenlos]

​@@Sleepyboi_U these bots = free promotion for Charlie.

[@GrievousReborn]

​@@Sleepyboi_UI'm reporting as many of them as I can

[@wesleyward5901]

Game companies: "Why are people pirating games!?!? We need that money!" Also game companies: *Makes stupid ass decisions like this*

[@Fondoofus5542]

Oh the irony. 🤦

[@laserspirit.]

imma speedrun pirate all ubi games that i have. I do not trust a Company that is Bipolar Schizophrenic thinking everyone is stealing money from them and Pulling out the meaniest shit

[@Chiefshadow4]

People pirate games because they believe in fee hand outs and don't work a good enough job.

[@harrythefighter1029]

And that's another reason why I still play games that's decades old

[@ERMOONSaladino4]

Their decisions aren't stupid. It helps get rid of bots and clears up space in their servers. Stop being salty that they are a good company.

[@DozFilms]

Love Charlie’s new vocabulary after watching Oppenheimer

[@mouna8720]

my exact thoughts 🤣 we love you so much, Charlie!!!

[@noahclark7603]

Lol That’s why I love good literature

[@michaelrogers7386]

Like a walking thesaurus

[@tysonanson8909]

You honestly think he's gonna see this after you spammed any comment you could think of to post it early

[@johnfuchs117]

Haha

[@Aerosklice]

I know someone who couldn't log into their ubisoft account because he had lost his original registrated email and the support would say they were changing the email into the new one but send an otp by sms, everytime the otp would arrive in the old email. It took 3 months to change that email and be able to access the account again, and support would always just say no, we sent it by sms, not the email, you're not being cooperative.

[@aidanquiett668]

This feels like a massive lawsuit in waiting. I can see suspending accounts for inactivity if it wasnt tied directly to paid content, but this is directly stealing from consumers if they dont log in enough

[@lolyouz6476]

I legit can't tell the replies are joking or bots

[@Flamezord]

@@lolyouz6476bots

[@hochibamabinladenhusainefe8191]

​@@lolyouz6476they're bot accounts.

[@popninja8658]

Impossible for a lawsuit. They told you that they would do this and if you choose to use the service anyway, its on you. It's stupid, but you couldn't sue them.

[@Hinodei]

@@popninja8658 thats not how that works, them saying their gonna crime you doesn't negate punishment for the crimes they do.

[@Mausso]

I'm pretty sure that there is actually grounds for a class action lawsuit, which honestly needs to happen. Terms of Use can only go so far, from a legal stand point, and more steps need to be taken in preserving consumer rights in the game industry.

[@a.s.3805]

I totally agree, but watch some shmuck say that it violates the 1st Amendment and it becomes completely legal

[@aidanquiett668]

@@a.s.3805 They wont? There is already legal precedent to keep companies from doing this sort of stuff in contracts. It just needs to be challenged in this specific case and then companies will learn not to do this

[@botaccount4356]

I will spread ur cheeks lil bro 😭🙏🙏I betta not catch you in my comments again or it’s finna gon be OVER for you 👾

[@armacham]

An arbitration agreement means no class action lawsuit is possible. It's mostly the fault of Congress. The Supreme Court made some questionable decisions but it would be very easy for Congress to fix.

[@aidanquiett668]

@@armacham Arbitration also can be overruled. Given the nature of this, I have a feeling this will be a supreme court issue about what the licensing for digital products actually entails

[@rokkudayo]

You don't really get your access to your Steam games revoked if you are banned. What complicates it is that there are different kinds of bans but most of them do not affect your library, just community features and/or matchmaking in games using VAC. Unless you commit credit card fraud or anything of the sort you can pretty confidently live knowing that you'll always have access to your Steam library regardless of how long you haven't logged onto your account unlike with Ubisoft Connect.

[@Sohalia06]

How'd you find this out?

[@capt_nugget]

@@Sohalia06 have an almost 5 year old vac ban on my account and this is accurate, I just can’t play CSGO matchmaking, make CSGO trades, or interact with some community posts and reviews. Also I’ve seen it’s rumored to be possible to have your account removed and access to library revoked in some cases of game piracy, but I’m not aware of the circumstances for this to occur.

[@paragonyoshi4237]

@@Sohalia06 How about you simply take a look at your local Steam Folder? All your installed games, are actually installed on your computer. Shocker, right? Meaning you can make a safe copy of them, as many times as you want.

[@kishannathan4186]

@@capt_nuggetyh if you pirate a game thats on steam you get banned. Only if its an online game though

[@Unapologeticweeb]

Yes but if you follow the rules you won't lose games it's still crappy but way way less worse then breaking no laws and having your games deleted simply for inactivity

[@chrise8275]

This is off topic, but I love Charlie’s little tangents at the beginning of every video, they sound so absurd but he’s able to tie them back to the topic at hand, Awesome!!!

[@JDRetrolUtion]

I appreciate that Charlie is continuing to tie everything back to the Bernstein vs Berenstain thing

[@drex5160]

If the Germans had won, we'd be talkin about Wolfenstein vs Wolfenstain 💀

[@SurR3AL392]

It's super weird. I would swear on my life that in the 90's it was Chic FIL A and now it is Chick-fil-A. I have vivid memories joking that the chicken was Chic so it must be cool.

[@luckyluchiano72]

he messed up the pronunciation tho.. he got the new one wrong 😂 the og one was “steen” new one is “stine” (not spelling, did that phonetically ofc)

[@SussyRobloxLord]

In the depths of the enchanted forest, a hidden portal revealed itself only once a century, shrouded in ancient runes and guarded by Penguinz0. Eager to unveil its secrets, a daring group called the "reddit moderators" embarked on a perilous quest to unlock the portal's magic and discover the realm that lay beyond youtube as a whole. As the appointed night arrived, they stood before the KZbin comment section, hearts pounding with anticipation, ready to step into the unknown and embrace their destinies. They then saw Sustation and backed away filled with fear and agony they ran back to their mothers basement and sat there weeping with misery

[@qualicumjack3906]

@@luckyluchiano72 U ever think he was doing it phonetically?

[@Dartanis]

Thank you for the information. I honestly did not think I could dislike Ubisoft as a company any more than I already did. I was mistaken.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@Derivedwhale45]

Brainwashed too much kid? U won't last long with that mindset

[@juliehefte9360]

Fr Ubisoft sucks

[@sebastianriz4703]

Glad I cant be a victim. I will never buy a Ubisoft product. They are a dogshit devooper and horrid company.

[@Muchinoi]

@@Vercusgames I don't know why they would do this to sell off, though. I can't really think of a single pro for this.

[@GrievousReborn]

I could possibly see Ubisoft being forced by the Australian government to not do this in Australia because of their consumer protection laws

[@KingTater]

I still wont move to Australia. Yall bugs cray cray

[@KingTater]

Cool laws though👍🏾

[@ugheieiemmmfmfmff]

Auatralia is known for deregulation of *issues which effect basic environmental safety*, so I don't think they'll be forcing Ubisoft to do anything anytime soon.

[@c.j.9080]

only reason i don’t move to australia is y’all’s demonic ass bugs

[@c.j.9080]

australia doesn’t have bugs, they have foreign creatures from outer space

[@AuraLeafstorm]

When will we as a society finally learn that giving up physical media was a mistake

[@loneleeworldsgaming2997]

This is like if I purchased a magazine subscription and one day they came knocking on my door saying I haven’t read those magazines in a long time and they’re taking them back… unreal.

[@Hackachusetts]

This

[@ScottyDoesntKnow69]

Or it’s like buying a video game that you haven’t played in a while an they show up to take the video game back.

[@nunya5424]

No because you payed for a product that is now yours, you could hide it, burn it, shove it up your butt. You dont own digital things and never have.

[@ERMOONSaladino4]

That isn't true. This decision will help remove the bots.

[@FrancisR420]

​​@@ERMOONSaladino4o it's like you purchased an iPhone and then didn't use it for a month so Apple comes and takes it to "prevent bots" from using the app store

[@jet100a]

This is actually insane, Ubisoft should be sued into oblivion. EDIT: Thank you everyone! Also, could you guys report the spam comments? EDIT 2: Depending on where might help determine the legality but remember, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's moral. This company doesn't deserve your money and if you defend them taking away products you've bought that's actually insane. Imagine a scenario where it's legal for someone to come to your house, set your car on fire, and beat your legs in with a baseball bat. Would you defend this person because it's legal in this hypothetical scenario?

[@mrmunk0068]

i mean its always been in their TOS from what ive read there is now law being broken

[@LegendOfTheFLame393]

@@mrmunk0068 still not above consumer protection laws tos does not prevent you from getting sued for abusive tos

[@Shotaboat]

​@@mrmunk0068Tos doesnt override consumer protection laws

[@histhoryk2648]

@@mrmunk0068 but time got reduced from few years to 6 months

[@mrmunk0068]

@@Shotaboatconsumer laws yes but there isnt really laws protecting digital goods as charlie said

[@TJ-wf1rr]

"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." - Gabe Newell

[@TitanChromeE]

No way a Gabe quote!

[@DarkClaws914]

@@TitanChromeE real

[@NihongoWakannai]

It's always hilarious to me when people quote gabe like this without considering the fact that steam is literally a DRM service. If it was truly only about service, then steam would let you download a DRM free copy of the game you buy.

[@DarkClaws914]

@@NihongoWakannai people when gabe steam drm changes:

[@carl_shogi]

​@@NihongoWakannai Steam DRM is a necessity. Gabe has to make it hard on the pirates otherwise no one will sell their games on Steam. Even then, Steam game piracy is still a thing though, not hard to look it up.

[@freshzoother7533]

i remember this being one of the major arguments about why we shouldn't go digital with everything... also subscription services. Eventually no one will own anything.

[@darealbukchoyboi]

State owned games 💀 Sure hope we won't see a communist takeover in the gaming industry...

[@ImplyDoods]

this is DRM issue not a digital issue DRM can exist for physical media to theres really not much difference between a file being on your pcs drive and it being on the disk

[@Maximus0451]

I had a friend who died and we used to play a lot of Siege. His account is probably long gone now, and I feel a mix of anger and sadness. Good thing we saved his stats. Something to remember all his recruit plays by.

[@ameliajales5307]

Considering how much they’re willing to cut corners, a lawsuit for this shit would be a great wake-up call

[@Brewski626]

Wild they went with the "totally not a phishing scam" phishing scam style email approach. I'm sure this wont result in people erroneously exposing their information to bad actors now that ubisoft set the precedent to expect that kind of email from them.

[@drabin7759]

So not only you pay full price for terrible ubisoft cashgrabs, you also have to make mandatory check in every month

[@midimusicforever]

Ubisoft be like - Ok, let's make piracy looks like a really legit option.

[@remipennel121]

That plus Denuvo on games like AC Origins, if u pirate the game, you can play it without Denuvo running in the background and being a ressource hog

[@lasam7470]

imagine waking up from a coma excited to play your ubisoft games and what do you know they gave you the boot

[@victorpurificacao2855]

Sorry, I tried, but I can't imagine myself excited to play a Ubisoft game.

[@sadge0]

Simply pirate it. Or it's better to say "just download it", since "pirate" sounds like something bad. In case with Ubisoft it's a good thing to do. I wish everyone just stop buying their shitty copy pasted games and everything at all for a few years, I wonder what would've happened then

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@Marky-Mark1337]

Or off to deployment…

[@acuilnos]

​@@victorpurificacao2855 The only good Ubisoft game I can think of is Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. I tried getting into Ghost Recon Wildlands and Assassin's Creed Origins but dropped both within an hour.

[@Roperational_YT]

You know it’s gonna be a good one when Charlie’s talking about timelines and the Bearenstein Bears

[@MLGHazrad]

Berenstain Bears. People like us who saw Berenstein Bears now live in an alternate Universe

[@whocares9033]

Being stupidly gullible doesn't mean you live in an alternate universe

[@DrDark-im9kv]

​@@whocares9033I'm pretty positive it's a joke.

[@conqeeftador5559]

@@DrDark-im9kvthis KZbinr is a major cornball half the time . Even when joking . It’s even funnier when he’s not joking and being wrong

[@motivusthesage]

Wait a minute, isn't it Berenstain? Or is this some Mandela Effect type shit?

[@simona.9730]

"Their water supply must be infested with stupid juice." It's Montreal. Of course it is.

[@MiM1Cx]

it’s also insane that they don’t detail what they consider “inactive”

[@stefantomas]

This is why GOG is awesome. You have access to your games in perpetuity and there are no DRMs embedded with games.

[@howdy6964]

Most of the time, yes.

[@anotherks7297]

Pretty sure they some of the games are drm now, at least that's what I heard.

[@kerolokerokerolo]

In perpetuity as long as gog continues to exist. That's not real perpetuity, I'm sorry.

[@NeonValleys]

As other have said that's just not true. That was supposedly the case with a similar company years ago called something like gtg, well they eventually shut down and everyone lost access to their games. If it's not physical you own nothing no matter what you're told

[@heik9108]

​@@NeonValleys How is it not true? GOG has the option to download an offline installer for each game you buy. That's essentially the same thing you would get from physical media. Sure, if GOG shuts down you might lose access to the downloads, but just download the installers and keep them in some external disks or something and use that as physical media.

[@Bin_Chickens]

"You're paying for an admission ticket but can still get kicked out" crazy lines from Charlie as allways 2:10

[@bernardoromero5009]

Night clubs do be like that

[@Stewie_eating_Heisenburger]

​@@bernardoromero5009as well as sports events

[@benebene9525]

​@@Stewie_eating_HeisenburgerThe difference is that you dont buy a night club or an event. Its a one time ticket. You DO buy games tho

[@Stewie_eating_Heisenburger]

@@benebene9525 True

[@val770]

It’s like buying your car and the dealer repossessed it cause they tracked you haven’t driven in a while. First of all, why are you tracking MY usage of something that I own? This fight is about to be about privacy also

[@johnnyspeedboat6656]

This is why I will always fight against games being digital-only. It's 2023, the only excuse for yout to not be able to sell physical copies of your game is that you can't afford it. Hell, the PowerWash Simulator devs are releasing a physical copy of their game. If they can do it, big game companies *DEFINITELY* can.

[@Purturtur]

Physical media means nothing these days when games require a day 1 patch to even function.

[@johnnyspeedboat6656]

@@Purturtur Different conversation, but I do agree with you there.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

ngl this isn't a problem on pc , we can pirate whatever we want and it will forever stay up on torrents

[@pandora3224]

Video game development is quickly becoming the least customer-friendly industry if they werent already.

[@mannymejia4339]

The video game industry is the only industry that can genuinely get away with selling broken products with next to no punishment. I wish video game companies were held to the same standard as literally every other company that sells anything

[@malmclaus]

⁠@@mannymejia4339 I don’t think that it’s the only industry tho. When a game developing company gains money without actually giving any product, they usually get punished. If we’re talking about the actual product not looking like, let’s say the gameplay trailer, then it’s something entirely different. They don’t get punished because in the trailers, they specify “Not Actual Gameplay Footage” or “Not Final Product”. They basically tell you the final product probably won’t look like this. So, you actually pay for a product that looks like what they’re showing you in the trailer, and you actually get a product that looks like what they showed you on the trailer. I think this is the exact same thing with McDonald’s (or any restaurant chain) ads where they show you a beautiful looking product. But when you actually buy the product, it’s something that looks like the ads. Never the same. Usually worse. This is a shitty situation.

[@batuchthebruh5165]

EA and Ubisoft are marching in with the worst possible policies for this. EA wants your money, Ubisoft wants your time.

[@joshlewis5065]

All in an industry that REQUIRES a customer friendsly base.

[@mannymejia4339]

@@malmclaus I’m not talking about what is advertised. I’m talking about releases that are genuinely broken to the point they are unplayable. Assassins Creed Unity is a good example. That’s like selling a car with all the electronics busted.

[@covenantslayergaming6362]

I literally just opened my email, saw this in my junk folder, and went "huh, they're impersonating ubisoft now". I guess reality is often stranger than fiction, since fiction must make sense.

[@trentdavis3304]

? Fiction is stranger than reality since it makes sense, what does this even mean

[@covenantslayergaming6362]

@@trentdavis3304 Good fiction usually has to make some kind of sense for it to be "good".

[@leafri515]

Think you meant “reality is often stranger than fiction”

[@adyatma1]

​​@@trentdavis3304 Sometime fiction is more believable than reality Common example is glass bottle, from movies they are shown to shatter easily, irl they are pretty hard

[@trentdavis3304]

@@covenantslayergaming6362Like the other guy said I think you just got the words fiction and reality in the wrong places in that sentence

[@hurbco.]

If Ubisoft still made good games these accounts wouldn't be inactive in the first place

[@wolfyblackknight8321]

Agreed I think the only game they made I'd be psyched to play again is black flag and that's how old now if I was playing it on ps3 and Xbox 360 and the newer games are very meh or have massive design flaws

[@histhoryk2648]

It's bad time for Settlers 7, Anno 2070, M&M X and Heroes 6 & 7 I want GOG release PLEASE. Not logging for 6th month or say goodbye to you account? This is makes cracking and piracy an rightful option

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@FeenieVonKarma]

Facts

[@Craeonkie]

You know what? That's probably exactly why they're doing this. They want people to come back

[@MellowWater]

Okay this isn't actually the case, this isn't a Ubisoft issue, in fact every digital company operating in the EU has to remove their user data they collect after a period of inactivity. According to Ubisoft's policies they only deactivate accounts that have no games tied to it, if you do have games you're all good and for those accounts that don't have any games tied to it, the account will only be removed after four years, prior to which a user gets notified over email. That is only if you don't have any games, as long as you have games like on any store front your account won't be deleted. This isn't a new policy or anything, it's always been there and if you study computers you'd have heard about the EU's regulations regarding this matter.

[@Scralligator]

I love Charlie's videos because its not heavily edited and he doesnt put on an overly exaggerated voice, it legit sounds like your just having a chat with your best mate. Please dont ever change Charlie :)

[@dunkerscheon1433]

Shut up

[@algammond]

A big problem with this is that it camouflages with phishing emails.

[@jackmckeown7601]

Yeah that's very true. Really stupid

[@Sr.Anonimo-bk1uz]

So ridiculous that it sounds fake

[@IkarosTypeAlpha]

this was my first thought as well. It straight up sounds like a phishing email and I guarantee this will now be used as one I 100% would have ignored and deleted this email if I saw it and now it might mean gambling on whether I lose purchases or not. Amazing

[@ジハ-u5k]

Phising?

[@nyxizanami134]

@@ジハ-u5k Scammer "Fishing" for personal information. typically as an email, disguised to be from a popular company. Typically with a context of something Drastic, to interest someone to interact with it (Losing all of your games), paired with a sense of time-sensitive urgency to be stopped by simply logging in (log in to fake Ubisoft=giving over your Username, Email, Password, and other things.)

[@LordryuRevived]

The 2020s really are gonna be the decade where all the big companies try to race to the bottom, isn't it?

[@doctorcrow4956]

It's almost like a competition to see who can fuck up their services at this point. Piracy Gang.

[@Jamlord2061]

and normal people are stuck in the cluster….. fudge?. yeah that shi..tuff :)

[@KermitOfWar]

All it took was for a submarine to go boom to get the ball rolling.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@Primordial_Savant]

​@@Jamlord2061is KZbin being strict on your slurs again? Edit: I meant to say curse words, not slurs. Apologies to Waymin for being an ignorant smartass

[@alexanderboulton2123]

Berenstein is said with a noticable Southern twang, so "stein" turns into "stane".

[@niraythedemonking5518]

Thank gods I don't have an email about closing my Ubisoft account currently after SEVEN years of playing my games from them and stuff, this honestly pisses me off more than what Ubisoft usually does, thank you Charlie for bringing this up, I don't follow their stuff on Twitter and that stuff certainly wouldn't be on their KZbin

[@gregorywood7554]

​@SheepManYFGA You're irrelevant.

[@NickRightAtYa]

​@@SussyRobloxLordno one asked

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

@@NickRightAtYa Don't respond, just report these failed abortions

[@niraythedemonking5518]

@@NickRightAtYa they are just bots who don't know any better

[@Bleenderhead]

Everyone saw Netflix not suffer any negative consequences for cracking down on password sharing, Reddit faced no consequences for blocking API access, Hollywood faced no consequences for not paying writers, and realized they could get away with a lot worse stuff than they were already doing.

[@Yu-hx5jo]

Yeah welcome to market economy. Hahaha

[@Mystipaoniz]

because people are hooked and cannot stop "consuming". Just stop consuming and you will see the results. That's the power of consumer. But they can't. The system works(ed) well.

[@Jamal-mq6xn]

Nvidia faced no consequences for releasing shit products, Amazon faced no consequences for horrible working conditions, Triple A companies faced no consequences for releasing unfinished products. As long as people buy things without thinking, these companies will just continue to be awful.

[@Yu-hx5jo]

@@Mystipaoniz Don't stop consuming, start pirating. This only works for digital services and goods.

[@DarkSamusMan]

Reddit failed because the morons announced the end date of their protest...they waved the white flag before they even started the "fight"

[@maggoli67]

Moral lesson: Pirates respect property rights. Or at least understand them better.

[@NigerianCrusader]

AH SHIVER ME TIMBERS OBLIVION DOESNT DO THAT MATEY

[@NigerianCrusader]

@juscbhbhuvsdsdvbhjwsdv3843ARGH MATEY WALK THE PLANK

[@J6ZX]

@juscbhbhuvsdsdvbhjwsdv3843unless it’s far cry 3 ;)

[@lizjizz9397]

@@pattywhacker420 i'd say its more so copying cars from a car salesman. then again, if that car salesman is a pos i dont feel bad lol

[@aletta4497]

@juscbhbhuvsdsdvbhjwsdv3843Idk about that, missing out on a lot of good old AC games.

[@beccbells9728]

if i buy a book in 2003 and don't pick it up for 20 years it is still my book, it doesnt magically get taken away

[@MutantMFM]

Buying physical media and preserving it still needs to be done. As these companies are making it not just inconvenient, but difficult to buy their video games. They do not want you to own a copy of a game anymore, instead be bound by their online access service.

[@Derivedwhale45]

Which is fine cause plenty of us gamers including me are forever done with physical and you should too cause those days are over kid. Plenty of us got screwed over with the discs not reading or installing on our console (very clean fyi) n decided to get rid of them completely and buy them digitally from now on. We don't even care if we lose some of our licenses access for some of our products, we're prepared for it as long the majority of gamers n influencers get exactly whatever they want no matter what. Change is inevitable & u can't save EVERYTHING

[@cownose8949]

​@@Derivedwhale45 doesn't mean you shouldn't try to save some things, kid

[@MikeHunt-yl1so]

Exactly!

[@xenn4985]

@@cownose8949 then save them on your hard drive, yknow... the physical disc inside your computer?

[@Derivedwhale45]

​@@cownose8949said the little guy here in a grown up conversation here kiddo. The sooner u understand reality, the better cause eventually you'll have to make the difficult choices u don't want to but must one or way. Us adults been doing it for a long, long time

[@dlanistheman]

It’s worrisome that other companies could follow through, physical has more of an incentive for this type of thing

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

This is one place where I'm gonna be optimistic - Following on from Ubisoft actively shooting themselves in the foot with an RPG-7, other companies will, God willing, look at this and go, "Okay, yeah, maybe we shouldn't do that."

[@RVIC_Union_Metamorphosis2023]

@@skeptixalpowers7777🤖

[@radiantcharisma]

​@@GoredonTheDestroyerIt could be like the Magic 30 thing similarly; at least it feels like it was actually an incentive to prove better loyalty like what YGO is doing for their 25th.

[@shadowarez1337]

Physical is not 100% always better I have physical copies of games that can no longer run because the services it relies one once installed no longer exist lol. Section 8 was one of those windows live for games or whatever that's long dead.

[@Need2diefst]

​@realyozdo you have no life or do you just wait for Charlie to post so you can comment this?

[@thefinalme]

I always buy physical games and this is why. My trust in any service to continue to exist or not screw me over is nonexistent. But we shouldn’t have to think this way.

[@troglodyte280]

Thats good and all but how do I purchase a physical copy of Sex With Hitler 2

[@RedBronz]

@@troglodyte280 wtf

[@redtedgamer8692]

But even if you buy the game on physical copy, wouldn’t you have to start over because your account would be deleted?

[@citrusuniphant2559]

from what i understand, most physical games now don't even have a game on them, its just a code for the game on the xbox store for example. You can't just put a disk in and play the game anymore, you put the disk in and wait for it to download the game off of the store

[@redtedgamer8692]

@@citrusuniphant2559 but what I’m trying to say is why are people acting like it will make a big difference if they buy the game digital vs physical copy. Won’t it still require an account for Ubisoft?

[@noodlegod2797]

1:22 “Banished to the doofus dimension” set me off 😂

[@alexglase765]

Imagine the board meeting where somebody floated this idea and everyone went “yeah that sounds like a good idea”

[@gregorywood7554]

​@SheepManYFGA2 I don't remember asking.

[@sokanu9020]

It's basically the same with Blizzard cancelling overwatch 2 pve

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

@@gregorywood7554 Don't respond, just report.

[@james-m-8285]

It likely went something like "this will cause a fiscal quarter of growth, give me a $20M bonus then fire me to another company next quarter" "ok, just do the same for me" **scumbag handshake**

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@jonmonroe4813]

If they go through with this, I can see lawsuits kicking off. At least in Europe where consumer protection laws are stronger.

[@ladeao1552]

In the US we are rigged enough in companies' favor that I could see them legalizing theft by companies as long as you didn't tell them not to steal your shit within the past 30 days.

[@acuilnos]

What do you mean go through? It was in the ToS to begin with, and as long as you're using their services then you have already agreed to it. Besides, the only reason they do this to begin with is to comply with data protection laws.

[@Lawnmower737]

@@acuilnos Just because they say it in their ToS, doesn’t mean it’s stronger than laws. Especially since all games purchased before the new ToS rolled out would now get caught up in their too. Which makes for a legal battle.

[@claudius_drusus_]

@@Lawnmower737 you purchase a license to play the game, not the game itself. So...

[@acuilnos]

@@Lawnmower737 Are you not going to mention the data protection laws? Isn't conforming to this law why inactive accounts are being deleted in the first place?

[@mrpenguin8731]

They could’ve easily circumvented this by only closing in-active accounts with no games

[@123TheCloop]

GDPR literally stops them keeping your account "active or stored"

[@mrpenguin8731]

@@123TheCloop I don’t know what any of that means but alright!

[@WardyLion]

It should be a legal requirement that you must be able to retain a local copy of any purchased digital media. It must also be functional even if the service you purchased it on shuts down or you close / lose your account.

[@AnonymousPerson-cu7yz]

That is called GoG store.

[@autumn-is-a-silly]

​@@AnonymousPerson-cu7yzI'm just getting more and more respect for GOG.

[@uooooooooh]

Yeah but that's not as profitable.

[@mrwobblyshark465]

@@uoooooooohprofitablility is shit

[@nerdbot2.025]

@benign4823what’s DRM?

[@FreedomForAll1-]

There HAS to be an EU law against this somewhere.

[@mondsgesandter]

Sadly, to my knowledge there isn't. That doesn't mean that the EU wouldn't just create a new law just for it. Most of the time, if there is a problem in terms of missing laws in consumer rights, the EU is pretty fast in just creating new laws. I hope the EU will do something, because it would hit Ubisoft harder than any other lawmaker would, since Ubisoft is European.

[@punz7777]

The laws globally are at least 10 years behind those type of things. Moreover, we are now in an old games crisis - many are disappearing forever because support is being cut. Pirates are technically historians at this point. Similarly, music copyright laws are at least 20 years behind - laws made for the age of radio and mix tapes should not exist in their current state in the age of the Internet.

[@blackdynamite_5470]

I'm a seasoned criminal and I can tell since I know all the laws There ain't nothing you gon do against Ubi. Theyre lawyirs re stacked to de tawp

[@cravingtuna1561]

​@@punz7777nah the EU is having none of the electronic companies' bullshit. They are already fucking over Google and Facebook. Wouldn't be surprised if there is already a case in the making in the European court of justice

[@sudazima]

there might be, digital goods do get protections under EU law. im not a lawyer but if this went to court with someone legitimately using their account and losing it i think they would win that.

[@jessbellis9510]

2016 has always seemed to be the first cursed year, and every year it gets more and more out of hand.

[@martin-1965]

Yup - we got the madness of Brexit here in the UK and people in the USA got Golden Elevator Trump. Both events were not a coincidence.

[@grienardus12]

​@@martin-1965America was screwes either way, shitty president before trump, then either clinton or trump which would both have been fucked. Now we got big man biden who probaly forgets to breathe on occasion.

[@nigstar1239]

@@martin-1965 bud keep politics out of here, there's lots of old people out there who love to complain about politics in your nearest park/pub, so you may go there and talk about non-gaming related stuff 😉

[@PackRatSupreme]

​@nigstar1239 This may be shocking for your big boy brain but politics ultimately are why corporations are so able to just bend over the consumer and fuck them.

[@martin-1965]

@@nigstar1239 Oh yeah, sorry, forgot that politics has no effect on anything in our lives and definitely not whether corporations can get away with shit like Ubisoft. Who makes the laws that say whether something "shouldn't be legal"? Anyway, don't worry, I won't dare speak again.

[@TycoonTitian01]

There is going to be a lot of surprised pickacu faces when piracy increases

[@robertdowney85]

I like how Charlie and Mutahar and basically on the same wavelength at all times.

[@giygas_9577]

With very similar video titles this time as well.

[@Artobacco]

Real, I open KZbin and see his video, then get a notification of Charlie’s video.

[@avery6049]

@realyozdamn right you did

[@gregorywood7554]

​@realyoz Shut up.

[@AdamuCinema]

Dude everyone is on the same wavelength about this stuff. Shut up

[@m4xw3ll75]

At one point I made a steam account and came back 4 years later, I still had everything and I still use it to this day. Crazy how convenient that is.

[@Sketchfield]

Because valve is the goat and doesn't feed into the current state of games today where you have to constantly keep playing for daily rewards and battle passes and side missions that change daily. Every new game has one of these things.

[@woolfieMcP]

I made an account in 2011 but started actually using it in 2017

[@goofyahhindividual3]

​@@SketchfieldFr like Valve is one of the best gaming companies to ever exist. Every game they launched is fire , they own Steam which is the best platform for games , and they are user friendly and not a greedy company, also great support if something happens. I got my account stolen and the support responded very quickly and got it solved.

[@monalisa-bs4zs]

Its the exact same thing with ubisoft. This information is old and is just a slander campaign from another gaming company whos brand has taken a massive F recently.

[@Zarkarin]

@@monalisa-bs4zs So it's old news but it's also from a company who did it recently... Also on Ubisoft's official reply it is 3 days ago. You're on some MAJOR copium right now. I know this situation sucks but you need to get out of the denial phase.

[@tekiii1]

thank you for making this. i don’t have social media so i would have never heard about this and probably lost everything cause my Ubisoft acc is on a separate email i don’t check often

[@mortem4342]

Same, I made my ubisoft account like a decade ago on an email I don't use anymore, so I definitely wouldn't have known about this.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@RedArmor205]

Ubisoft: (Makes tweet about terminating inactive accounts) Me: "Cool and now scam organizations are definitely not going to copy this and try to scam the crap out of so many people for their money..."

[@whatevr99]

I would say that Ubisoft never fails to disappoint, but you need to actually have expectations to feel disappointment, and I haven’t had any expectations at all for that company in years.

[@gregorywood7554]

​@SheepManYFGA Nobody asked.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT CHARLIE SUPPORTS PEDOPHILIA AND RACISM. HE'S COMMITTED SO MANY DAMN HATE CRIMES AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@Cains_stuff]

This is a good comment right here. That is gold.

[@marmageddon8657]

@SheepManYFGA who asked?

[@grbbsc]

why do you guys reply to bots

[@ChooknRS]

Straying further and further into 'You will own nothing and be happy about it' territory.

[@DirtyDooney22]

Pretty close honestly

[@Pro_Chef.]

They will receive bullets tho

[@konflict1231]

It's been like that since forever though? You literally don't own anything, the gubment can take whatever the fuck they want and they do it all the time lnao

[@Alucard-mj6yj]

​@@konflict1231then why don't they

[@naiveveg8447]

​@AzureWolf168you sure about that? Miss a few taxes, don't get insurance and watch what happens.

[@flycentipede1689]

This is actually great that he’s made this video because I don’t use twitter and the email for my Ubisoft account is almost never used so I wouldn’t have known about this and lost my account.

[@silentoccasion4359]

Oh dang. Moist saved you

[@splitprune]

​@@Ephemeral994so?

[@m0gi]

They can take watchdogs legion from me, no probm. I ever wanna play it again ima raise Hell in their support page.

[@drwhy0756]

Imagine going into a coma just to have your games taken away

[@janky477]

It does definitely feel like a Timeline shifted to make AAA Publishers start making FFF Decisions, cause it feels like all of them are fighting for the Lowest Reputation possible.

[@frankaisi2403]

In Europe we have a law that states that a person has the right to have her account erased after a certain amount of time from a web site/social media. And I think that Ubisoft (a French company) didn’t understand that law correctly and did that for every afk accounts.

[@ThePlagueDoctor1490]

Man why

[@0NeeN0]

@@ThePlagueDoctor1490 so people can quit social media without them keeping your personal info? That's pretty good law for consumers and their security in theory. You know everyone could doxx you from your youtube acc alone, right?

[@gregvoros]

3:28 the schlatt picture 💀

[@aric420x8]

I sense a “failure to render promised services” lawsuit coming in the near future

[@xaf15001]

To add to this, the reason they said they'll delete your account is because it might overload their servers. Ubisoft is a marketplace. You buy shit there, and so I'm pretty sure everyone just uses 1 account, at most 2. If they're that worried about filling up their servers, that means that their servers starts to be unable to support their current userbase, so they had to cut corners. It's like a store that only had a few meters area, so they had to start kicking customers out.

[@hackercow211]

What is stopping Ubisoft from getting more servers though?

[@lunchtreyy]

@@hackercow211 Them not wanting to spend money. Literal basic capitalism honestly, they will cut as many corners as possible to turn profit.

[@crossdaboss8914]

What's stooping them from creating an inactive account section where the account goes down but is held on a separate database for recovery if the player comes back

[@bnlbnlbnl]

@@hackercow211it’s just greedy corner cutting, that’s why literally every big company has had drama (reddit, Twitter, now Ubisoft)

[@xaf15001]

@@crossdaboss8914 Honestly, that might be what they're actually doing. But that would go against them shutting down accounts because they need more storage space.

[@fishinginpuddles]

Charlie is a legal philosopher of great skill.

[@Jerry-cg9ni]

@@skeptixalpowers7777 no its not

[@Celestial_878]

Oh my god, this channel has the most comment bots 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@RVIC_Union_Metamorphosis2023]

@@skeptixalpowers7777🤖

[@test1122lol]

Wrong, Andrew T-te is

[@pinkleWeenkies]

@@test1122lolspoken like a true sigma

[@advicants6565]

“Banished to the doofus dimension” is a new one for me and I love it😂

[@pStabs]

I literally looked at the date of this video three times to make sure we weren't in 2013. Why does everything seem like we're taking steps backward?

[@qaulwart]

Every time something like this happens, KZbinrs claim that these companies are essentially killing themselves, but the sad truth is that it doesn't seem to matter. People don't care, people keep buying the products, the companies keep getting away with this. We're fucked because we have zero integrity and aren't willing to put our money where our mouth is.

[@aravindkm2012]

We?

[@ilyashalygin]

You are essentually ignoring long-term consequenses for the companies. Sure, most people won't stop buying their games NOW, but its also the way to bankruptcy in like 5-10 years. Its not not like Ubisoft is the only company on the market, nor the first one to die from anti-consumer practices

[@kerolokerokerolo]

Not at all. Whan can be seen as a major fuck up for tje consumers, might be totally irrelevant for investors, for the overall economy of the company, etc. Meaning that PR fuck ups like this may seem very impactful and damaging for the company but may have a very little or insignificant effect on the company numbers. In conclusion, many consumers won't even care/know if the company they are purchasing a product/service from has made a big fuck up.

[@qaulwart]

@@aravindkm2012 Yes, "we". I used generalization here. Do I need to spell it all out? "Most gamers", "Majority of consumers". There, better?

[@michaelthatoker7125]

Not true. Been a “hater” for a couple years now and the companies I keep up with tend to go out of business. Hell, even Disney is on the verge of bankruptcy and that’s WILD. I gave them 5-10 years. They’ve managed to speed run things into the ground in just 2-3. They slowly lose customers and then one day, the rest leave too.

[@InfoDumpsYT]

0:59 Harambe's death was the nexus point.

[@Vaseholly]

0:52 Charlie is 1000% right about the Berenstein Bears timeline. This happened back in 2012. I’m sure of it

[@Ace85205]

I would like to point everyone in the direction of the official podcast: The only podcast for all your podcasting needs. However, in episode 68 at around 49:20, the exact premise of what ubisoft has done by taking inactive accounts away was proposed and unanimously agreed upon by all the official boys. No hate, but it is funny though

[@Scopatone]

I worked Ubisoft Support for 3 years. They have 1 office that handles ALL of North and South America and they just cut the staff by half so there's maybe less than 50 people working support now, which trust me is not enough. Reminder to PLEASE be kind to the staff you speak to, Ubisoft is very strict with adhering to policy and Support doesn't have much room to work with. Dealing with de*th threats every week, some of which sound very real and not just people blowing off steam, is not an environment people should be forced to deal with. Everyone that works in the office is a gamer and understands how bad many of the policies are but have no choice in enforcing them or they risk their job. If you want to attack people, attack corporate that sets the rules but don't go into a chat or email and threaten the support agents who had nothing to do with it.

[@anusmcgee4150]

Correct take

[@adventureguy8930]

why they working for ubisoft then? scared of losing a job? u kidding?

[@aravindkm2012]

Quit if it's a shit job. It's that easy.

[@Prxypad]

​@@adventureguy8930Do you understand the job market, you can't say I quit and find a new job in the next 24 hours. For some people this is the best they could get

[@COYOTE743]

​@adventureguy8930 you're either a child or rich af if you think quitting a job and finding one is this easy.