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[@Gimnbo]

Feels like half the spectator games are on Rialto. I wonder what it is about this map that drives people insane.

[@sethescope]

my theory: so many opportunities to get environmental kills/to be killed via the environment. it would mess with anyone's head at least a little bit.

[@greyfox2786]

Water

[@azseal2669]

It's a beautiful map that looks like Venice, they like to explore the canals. Up close and personal.

[@snomlord7515]

You'd think it'd be Colosseo because that map is by FAR the WORST in this entire game.

[@_bizmo_fungus_894]

@@snomlord7515I’d argue dorado but I fucking hate that one too

[@TheBlueCrayon]

props to the player that submitted this, they did a good job with what they had. that other support had negative game sense somehow, which shouldn't be possible.

[@alphaluc1008]

They probably watched a single awkward video and though "I can do that"

[@Scott-kv3vs]

@@alphaluc1008 "damage damage damage. your teammates aren't dead so they don't need heals yet"

[@ThaVipaa]

@alphaluc1008 either that or they are a dps player that wanted to play support 😂

[@Pandalfi]

That other support had the worst game sense I can even think of ever seeing in my entire life. That was mindblowingly bad.. I didn't even want to believe that was possible..

[@azseal2669]

I feel like a lot of it was them purposefully throwing but it's impossible to know what was going on on their end.

[@mayitakeyourhatsir8632]

If the Sigma didn't c9 on first point defense, they probably full hold and win the game. Instead, they let them full cap twice. That's just brutal

[@neilmallick20]

That's what's funny, you can literally get to at least gold as tank just realizing you have to contest the point on defense to force a fight. Tanks in bronze/silver don't even understand this concept.

[@MandrakeGuy]

@@neilmallick20 everyones just too afraid to actually be a tank lmao

[@f4live69]

​@@MandrakeGuyyou right. I main support and when I'm tired of shxt tanks or/and dmg, it's zarya time! Then I tend to not get healed enough so I'm sceptical to tank because of these things.

[@Arun_Baliga]

@@f4live69 Yeah this is just cope. You get shit tanks/dps because you are the same caliber support. The people who actually know what they are doing are in the higher ranks. Remember that it isn't possible to out heal damage. It's not your support's job to keep you alive, it's your job. Stop complaining about teammates and work on yourself.

[@Arun_Baliga]

​@Djangeaux11Notice how you didn't manage to dispute any points and went straight for an Ad Hominem.

[@bluefaygox23]

Hearing someone being honest about their ability is such a nice change of pace. Feels bad for him for having the stickdrift but other than that he seems like a genuinely good teammate. I always hate how someone will try to blame the team as a whole when it comes to performance and ability rather than looking at how they performed themselves.

[@Sac-chan]

i played with stickdrift a lot too, and i mained Hanzo/Phara on console and boi it feels awful, now i can finally play on pc

[@ETJ2002]

Just because you can do better doesn’t mean you should have to. You shouldn’t have to play diamond level just to get out of bronze. That’s those peoples frustrations. Most know they aren’t perfect and could do better but it’s still frustrating and true at least 50% of the time.

[@ianchambers37]

​@@ETJ2002 agreed 100% ❤

[@ianchambers37]

Have had plenty of those rolling games, then the next round, the team appears to forget how to play and get absolutely demolished. 😂 many games of those and it feels impossible to right the ship lol at times. It's confusing how trams can be so differently one round to the next.

[@VargonDraxar]

"What are we watching here?" "Some Overwatch that's for sure" This bit is such a mood for this whole match XD

[@meowmraow]

when he mentioned stick drift in his submission omg i feel sorry for him. its the worst, as mercy i will try to GA forward then back but stick drift will make me go forward twice placing me right into the enemies

[@bluefaygox23]

Try being a Widow, Ashe and Hanzo player with a drifted and broken controller, I cry everytime I go to use it 😭 my favorite controller is a Red Dualshock 4 and I’ve gotten stickdrift on it so I can’t use it at all. If I try, we end looking at the ceiling for 12 minutes.

[@meowmraow]

@@bluefaygox23 oh yeah i play widow too but since i dont play her in comp, the mercy thing feels so much worse for me. I have a scuf gaming controller and ive dealt with stick drift for years. its kinda embarrassing when i wanna stand still but instead i end up looking like a bot with my controller making me move slowly like that💀

[@Cuddlingus]

you gotta learn to cancel ga babe

[@sethescope]

​@@Cuddlingusthere are times when backwards GA is necessary and canceling GA won't be adequate for the purpose, e.g., needing to connect/reconnect beam to someone only briefly while quickly getting back into cover when that person is out of normal beam range, stuff like that

[@srikrishnabhat6793]

This is one of those rare VODs where I would wish Flats was the one spectating. That other support definitely needed a bit of a roasting if they were blaming their teammates after those plays. Hell I was going Flats mode there.

[@claudiuspulcher2440]

Silver Ana (not the submitter): "top 500 streamers have said play DPS support to make big plays and I'm doing it 100% of the time but losing, my entire team must be shit"

[@patrickmcdaniel5756]

Was thinking this. They watched an awkward video and heard "look for dps" without the context of "when no one needs healing" 😂

[@bmoxley16]

I love it when he said "Anna you're gunna to have to keep your team alive here for a minute," as if Anna hadn't been solo healing almost the entire game

[@severus766]

The other support needs to have someone in their ear yelling "YOU'RE NOT REINHARDT" every time they play Brig. As for the flanking Ana plays.... they were definitely a treat to watch 😂👌

[@Waffl3B1T]

Oh I’m excited to see the feeding Edit : holy shit the other support…..

[@_bizmo_fungus_894]

Oh hey it’s the what treat guy. I got genuinely worried when I didn’t see your comments for a few days

[@Waffl3B1T]

@@_bizmo_fungus_894 I’m back at work so I’m watching videos in the background but I’m unable to comment as I have to keep my fingers moving on the company laptop and forget to comment xD

[@some.random.person]

Such a wholesome streamer to pause the replay when chat says they have ads ❤🎉 Edit: it's at: 13:17

[@random_person1257]

Also at 23:47

[@A.LeMayo]

Right, what a king 👑

[@mekacrab]

That Zenyatta that plays like a Reaper in the second round... so inspirational

[@jacobschmidt8646]

You can see the gears grinding so hard on that attack Nano

[@nemebliss]

I'm getting a heart attack just seeing the Sig being crit all the time, just having Zen orb as heals. I wanna heal him so badly. Also, stick drift is a pain in the ***, always happens when you least need it. And thanks for not including chat in this video. I'm so done with everyone in there shitting on console players

[@EmoTheElephant]

honestly even if it's not console, if someone's playing badly chat will NOT stop asking whether it's console. Like they think it's impossible for pc players to have bad game sense for some reason. There's a flats spectating bronze video where chat says "console's just built different" and flats has to clarify that the vod they're watching is PC.

[@AL3ARBY]

chat will always roast ppl and do backseating while thinking they deserve high elo while the most they have had been is in gold

[@Bbistheman_]

​@EmoTheElephant flats viewers are kind of cringe but it's usually very obvious when a player in on controller

[@EmoTheElephant]

@@Bbistheman_ so you say but there are people in emonggs chat who keep asking if something is console when it's pc, so not obvious to everyone

[@ModernTenshi04]

Yeah, this is an all too common occurrence in metal ranks: pushing up well beyond the natural choke points of the map, especially on very good holds, made worse if the team is also not properly anticipating enemy ultimates that could break that hold. If I had five OW coins for the number of games I've had where I'm literally begging people to not touch the enemy spawn doors or stand in the open because we just need to hold the choke to win would probably net me a free battle pass at this point. I think it's a combination of the end game music getting folks a bit amped up, the victory being so close, but if you've also managed to basically hold them to the initial spawn area of the map folks just get a bit cocky. Sometimes it works, but then you end up with the enemy team breaking the hold and then they just snowball from there, and now you're staring down extra rounds or even a loss.

[@Lp0tr33]

They were so close for the win, then the hanzo killed 3. Then the OT time almost hit zero a few times, before the Sigma ran away.

[@pbabar1389]

He already accepts he knows he made mistakes and doesnt blame his teammates for being the rank he is. He's got the right attitude and mindset to rank up 100%

[@robikkupegasus7039]

Kiriko TP IS improved, one of the game devs spoke up over twitter recently about helping to smooth out the overall mechanics of the ability and was very pleased by it also - it was an overhaul that wasn't mentioned on the patch notes.

[@sethescope]

it was mentioned in the most recent patch notes, just at the bottom under the bug fixes section (which makes sense because it is a bug)

[@Kittynelson4]

Ain’t no way that guy was complaining about his team while single handily throwing lol.

[@katyamcadams]

As a Brig main, it hurts seeing someone *that bad* at Brig. Like, even on the flank encounter with the Junkrat, how in the world do you not kill him there, just flail, shield bash, swing (not saying they should've even been there, but they should've made themselves USEFUL while there)

[@B1p-]

This was exactly what I was thinking watching it. I was legitimately hurting seeing how they were treating brig.

[@zepchir]

NOT ZEN USING THE ULT FOR HIM ALONE 😭😭 AS A ZEN MAIN MY HEART HURTS

[@massxcjay4400]

Old ps5 controller before they came out with better ones have insane stick drift. Prolly 3 months until it starts drifting. The new ones are good tho

[@sethescope]

a swell treat to enjoy during my morning break from work!

[@EmoTheElephant]

despite being new this zen knows how to melee cancel burst and has a w skin. They're going places

[@idkdontmakemebecreative334]

This Ana watched some ‘how to play Ana’ 10 min guide on KZbin and heard ‘you should take some off angles to get good some anti-nades off’ and took it to a whole new level

[@orionlucas3272]

The stick sensors in controllers are meant to break down fairly fast. Every controller I've used in the last 8 years developed stick drift after ~80 hours of gameplay. The worst part is it's one of the few components that didn't recieve an upgrade in the Xbox elite Controllers, so twice the price and it fails just the same. Been the biggest issue with console gaming for a long time IMO. 2 years on my PC setup and the only replacements have been upgrades. With my consoles it feels like a necessity to spend another $80 on a controller every 3 months. Not fun:)

[@MilitanT07]

Same experience, it is planned obsolescence

[@A.LeMayo]

@@choccy_bagel wired 360 controllers are built like a tank, highly recommend

[@ethankibbey1976]

It’s all marketing schemes. The rich get richer. Sigh.

[@orionlucas3272]

@@ethankibbey1976 planned obsolescence.

[@RodrigoFlores-ls1kq]

20:19 that ana played an excellent sombra!

[@ThatGuy-em2yl]

dude I had some brutal stick drift for like almost two months. I feel your pain my man

[@Sir_Jimmothy]

I'm late to this, but after the attack I think I figured it out - the Ana thinks that shooting only damages enemies and not heals teammates, so they're only using the grenade to heal teammates because they don't know any better.

[@button9]

this is a an epidemic in low rank supports, where supports have heard "in order to climb, you need to make plays and dps more" ... totally losing sight of their own capabilities .

[@funcokler]

This was a treat, indeed.

[@Shadow211195]

20:10 Yeah Kiriko's tp has been a lot better so far. Only had one that didn't work. Last season it didn't work like 15-50% of the time.

[@BAIARJ]

I love this content. Keep it coming

[@rngsmiles3979]

That ana definitely watched the awkward video about playing support with more dps focus. However what they didn't do was remember that healing is also quite useful.

[@giveitarub7215]

That sojourn went to slide across, realized they wouldn't make it and probably thought that entire boat was coded as a platform and yeahhh

[@skyparrot1999]

Bro the river demands blood

[@CripplingNemesis]

This is going to be a good one!

[@echocrusader7966]

My one controller has crazy stick drift. Luckily I have an extra

[@keithpierce5686]

Ill never get why half way through a winnable match, my team goes afk in the brain and hard feeds.....

[@Wizardbeard91]

God damn is it just me or is emongg rockin the flats beard

[@sethescope]

holy heck, that other support. this was deeply painful. they're playing so selfishly. the team is clearly an afterthought to them. I am normally extremely patient with lower rank gameplay because its from lower ranks! getting upsetti about it is silly. people in lower ranks are learning the game. but this is fundamentally different. this isn't just someone making mistakes. this other support just doesn't care about their team. also, you can just TELL they're the kind of person to be like "my teams are the reason I'm in silver, my aim is so good, i deserve plat at LEAST" when in reality, their positioning and game sense is legitimately bronze quality. re: Kiriko tp, the last patch notes talked about updates to the tp and that it should work more consistently now, including when teammates are crouching. my understanding is that this type of ability is extremely difficult to make work in such a complex game, but it seems like they're making progress on troubleshooting the issue, which i appreciate.

[@beeno3487]

Less than a minute in the game and Ana was flanking alone. 😂😂😅😅

[@mjbrownii]

Someone obviously saw the awkward video

[@Love_to_Ball]

I didnt know there was a health pack there 😂😂 amazing.

[@notednuance]

Honestly it seemed like the beginning of the end was when the other support decided instead of playing back for the last 12 seconds of a round to head right up to the spawn door and die.

[@commentbot9510]

One time we had a good first round and my friend was on Ana, pretty much hard pocketing me on tank. I was playing a tank I wasn't the most comfortable on, so it helped a lot. But then for some reason, the other support takes Ana and does a terrible job healing me. Sure enough it was a loss and we almost didn't even score a single point.

[@stumbling_]

That enemy tank in the first round switching to road hog when they have an ana and a zen…. What

[@watafumx]

That Ana has a Shonen main character complex.

[@catdaddie]

i hope this player submits a where are they now vod, i bet they have climbed a ton if theyve kept playing! it would be nice to see them in a game without an obvious thrower and maybe with a better controller lmao

[@Amonkira1029]

Melee zen, flank ana. We love to see it.

[@KingMaw27]

I have really bad stick drift on both sticks, if i go idle EVEN FOR A SECOND i will be looking at the sky while full speed marching forward

[@Pixelblurr]

I'm surprised every day that I wake up and there's not a couple huge streamers backing a magnetic stick (non-potentiometer) high end controller that works for PC/PS5/Xbox. It would sell really well I think. I don't use a controller on PC except for Dark Souls type games, but I'd buy one.

[@heyimsasa]

one of the few times "it was my teammate's fault" was actually true.

[@icantpronounce]

the ana feels boosted which is wild in a silver game

[@ashleysealy9375]

Not so long ago on Xbox I had st im drift and I like playing lucio and the stick like looking up so it was sooo frustrating as I was trying to wall ride just looking at the sky. 😂

[@97Rattman]

How do you submit replays to Emongg?

[@arcadeinvader8086]

3:30 nah that's just zenyatta's adhd

[@tucanjam8530]

@emongg where can i submit clips i have a game where everyone was super toxic and where half my team spent half the game afk typing

[@FluffyMI6]

Our man Pacify forgot they werent playing DPS.

[@my11passions51]

Pacify is literally dead inside waiting to get better at the video game

[@romanbrown2027]

My xbox controller has such bad stick drift after not even a year of use it is completely unusable so ive had to take a break until my new one comes in from Amazon

[@Celosia117]

As a console player he has really smooth aim and awareness, should play MCC he'd do well

[@avrplay]

woah I have played with that ana before in bronze. (i had a 5-2 then somehow i deranked down bad...)

[@merry_whatever]

The way I could tell theyre on console cus they would melee when trying to use abilities 😭 i have the same problem

[@bigfudge2031]

Did he say "he was focusing too much on healing as Zen"

[@cowqult]

He was saying that for himself (when he was playing zen) not the other trash support

[@Soft_Ghost]

I know what you think. "Zen don't need to focus on healing. Just put orb on them." There are times when he has to stop doing damage, and cancel his right click, because more than one person are in critical health. That's probably what he meant.

[@AngrySecs]

Did you watch? His ana wasn't healing anyone when he was on zen so he was constantly trying to throw harmony around to heal the whole team lol

[@herestoustx6123]

Ana must’ve thought she chose Moira 😂

[@aidenbrooks5058]

Rialto is a cursed map

[@1236alexa]

Literally I was moira switched off moira and my team mate switched to moira and I felt literally offended

[@joruffin]

This game turned, as manly less than gold games do, on the unaddressed Pharah.

[@oztheguy5880]

i feel like comp is less fun i've been having a blast on qp this season im 2-10 on support rn and most of my tanks go doom or ball

[@brettchristensen6734]

N64 caught a stray!

[@shioramenrabbit]

Well that was a game! Pretty sure the player can rank up if they get a new controller/fix the stick drift issue and work on their aim a bit. Positioning and awareness not bad! Not silver at any rate.

[@AwesomeBait]

Ooo made that 999 to 1k 😁😁😁

[@SophSophSoph298]

The aggressive zen is the type of player that maked people go Lifweaver just to keep using the ability to pull them back cause the lifeweaver is done with their shit

[@homelikewater]

Ana was going full dps lol

[@absolutezero6564]

My controller's stick drift is insane. It's constantly shooting into the sky. Still do okay though

[@benhart2126]

They held nano the whole game😂😂

[@Its_FXDrake]

I think that Zen doesn’t know that there is a DPS category, I feel that is more his speed lol, not support.

[@ianchambers37]

Good ol' days of n64 and sticks not working as well since getting overused a lot in mario party and other games. Plenty of stick drift in the game and on the controllers themselves. The sticks often rolled around. 😂

[@Oliver.Pfahl.]

The other support thought they were Akward but forgot like 20 steps

[@weebtrash3376]

Awkward: only deal damage when no one needs healing Bronze-Gold Supports: Only deal damage, got it

[@br2nd]

i like zarya, it is really funny when i make the other to her too.

[@Rocky_Module]

7:57 the zen could've went with soj but i can see why this is silver

[@fettbub92]

A dps ana who cant hit shots is worse than a sniper tank sitting in their own backline

[@julialyra1310]

Maybe the Ana should improve their aim

[@blerdish]

Yep. That's basically most silver healing matches...

[@ineedpeeling7900]

Other support had 21 deaths...... oof lmao

[@ryan_uwu]

I'm so mad for them

[@Spidersauce88]

Where did the game go wrong the enemy swapped to pharah on console lol

[@MandrakeGuy]

that other support is painful to watch- 💀 is that a silver game or a bronze 5 game?

[@speccysquaregolike9629]

how on earth are they in silver??

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

I'm in silver as tank and I see games like this all the time. ALL the time.

[@dash4800]

Happens all the way through diamond. There are a lot of really bad players who manage to get ranked up consistently.

[@custi]

That ana has to be bronze or on their way to bronze

[@NUSORCA]

That Ana/Zen is legit silver Awkward

[@Justin-ro8uj]

This is why Overwatch needs a !votekick option. What an incredible display of incompetence by Pacify.

[@voiddwelling7285]

Console players deal with the most bs in terms of gameplay. I can't scope in as Ana without the fear of being stuck scoped in until I am dead, a Reinhardt pinning me so hard it literally just crashes my game, or general random disconnecting. It has caused my comp in-game rank to go Bronze 5. When I can play in my friends quickplay matches that are around high Gold - Low Plat. I am hardstuck Bronze 5 because of Technical issues. But it is kinda funny.

[@chickenslapshard1982]

Tp is still broken

[@tofu1639]

Watching this makes me think that Bronze Silver Gold and Plat the players are the same type people on console. I say this as a console player and is Diamond and Plat in my ranks. Being on support and seeing your other support feeding or the tank feeding or one dps pops off while the other one is 1 and 10 I swear players don’t improve

[@Geddn]

You would think that Rialto is the spot for cthulus cult and he lives at the bottom of the water mind controlling people to find the strangest way to take a dip into the ocean making them think that they will either get healed or their character can swim. Also why no C9 song? sadge.

[@arisven509]

Stick drift is the bane of every console player. Its worse on Apex lmfao

[@turkeyman631]

Lmao it's definitely not something I missed since switching over to PC. I would treat my controllers really well and then I'd have it on my bed for a second and my dog would knock it on to the floor. Would just make me cringe lol.

[@arisven509]

@@turkeyman631 just the sound of it crashing and that heart attack moment of "omg did it break?"

[@ashiralam5391]

how do i be in one of these videos I'm bronze