There is a *lot* we had to leave out of this video. Like, a ton. If you want a more in-depth interpretation of the play itself and the symbols Chambers invoked for it, definitely check out the extended version on Nebula! You can get access to it for free with a curiosity stream subscription, which is only $15 per YEAR (like $2 a month or something, it's ridiculously cheap): curiositystream.com/talefoundry For those of you who watched the longer version, what'd you think of the whole "the death of the land of lost souls" thing? Did it inspire you in any way?
@oskarbondesson49363 жыл бұрын
From what i know there are two theories as to why the King in Yellow play disappears from the other half of the book. One is that Robert hated the first half. He was tired of writing horror and wanted to write romance but they never sold well so he put them together. The second is that it is a clever way to make you feel what the characters feel. In the book it is specifically the second half of the play that drives you mad. And the second half of the real book does the same as you get wrapped up in this mystery made of crumbs and pieces that just, stops. No more mysteries, no more horror, no more King in Yellow. Your left unfulfilled and confused and you need to know what happened. What is the story about? You will ask and research and maybe make a Nebula video about it. It is true madness for the curious.
@general2doom1883 жыл бұрын
First of all, definitely going to get the curiosity stream for you. Love your work. Second: There are alot of things to go over for SCP and I believe you went over some already. Are you at all interested in doing one on the hanged king? With its cryptic lore and pieces that can fit multiple puzzles. Of course inspired by this but in a ... weird way. If not, and if you have time, atleast check it out on your own time. There are audible ones on KZbin if you just want some good background aswell
@TheTaleFoundry3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely plan to carve out some time for this and The Broken God! Thanks so much for the kind words and the support ❤️ -Benji
@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive3 жыл бұрын
Uh, they aren't *wrong* about the King being a space monster, the King isn't *really* a play - the play is *named* for the *author* (Which is assumed to be the King, albeit indirectly, similar to how religious people think God wrote the Bible, via direct inspiration.) so no. You're painting people as wrong, when they aren't. You might wanna do more research. The King *is* a typical lovecraftian monster, and just reading one book doesn't give you all the data. You seem to be accepting only Chambers' book, which is illogical - Chambers wrote additions to Lovecraft's mythos, but isn't Lovecraft himself. To accept his but discount the others... would be like demanding people accept *some* of the old Star Wars extended universe, but *only* the parts that *you* like. You can either accept only what the OG author wrote, or you can accept all the EU stuff, and remain logical in your debate. Accepting only what you like is fine for personal taste, but it is *not* acceptable for discussion, attempting to teach, or to "prove" a position. *Especially* just to then call everyone else wrong. That isn't logical, that is folly. Now if instead of saying "The King is *really* X," if you'd said "The King was *originally* X," that's be both logical and lacking the "you're all wrong" context. From watching your videos, I honesty dont think you *intended* to do it this way - you don't seem so arrogant as that, so it seems to havw come off that way accidentally. Just pointing out, that phrasing is key. Also, trying to "read into" works to find "deeper meanings" is inherently flawed. Yes, *some* works have deeper meanings left by their human authors. But if you "look" into any book long enough you can *assume* that. That doesn't mean there *is* one. In fact, *very few* tales have such things. Most stories are face value. No hidden meanings for you to find, what you find tends to instead be a reflection of yourself. Of course... if you *never* look, then those with such meanings, will have them missed, so you have a bit of a complication there.
@TheAbyssGeek3 жыл бұрын
You will Serve the King in Yellow the world will tremble before the king in yellow
@MissyMona3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has read the story, here's a little known fact. The King In Yellow isn't merely a king. He is a jester too, an artist. If you look at the original book cover up close you will see he does not just wear a hood, but a hood that is in fact a jester's cap. When I had this pointed out to me I was shocked!
@niftyskates853 жыл бұрын
Oh shit ur right! Even the reprints of the same illustration cut off that minor detail. Im seeing interesting parallels in my writing now. Weird and cool
@arcadiaberger92043 жыл бұрын
@@niftyskates85 It's a cliche that the jester holds a powerful position by being able to speak the truth with impunity (usually). A jester who is also a king...? Well, in those very rare games where the Joker is not removed from the deck before play begins, it is empowered to take the place of any card, including a king....
@niftyskates853 жыл бұрын
@@arcadiaberger9204 interesting card metaphor. From what I seen though in stories the jester is basically a slave and gets its tongue cut off if he says the wrong thing in summary. Or punished if they can't consistently entertain with quality
@annabell33853 жыл бұрын
A jester us a joker, like a clown or a trixter. Another name for the joker is a Jack.
@Josuh3 жыл бұрын
he's doin a minor amount of tomfoolery
@michaellangwaller3 жыл бұрын
The King In Yellow, the existential dread that taints even those that are unaware of its existence. Once it was released into our world, it threw a fog over everything.
@LUCA_G223 жыл бұрын
I read this as it threw a frog. That threw me into a loop.
@dermongooseplays55003 жыл бұрын
@@LUCA_G22 It set a frog card in face-down position in the middle if the board.
@LUCA_G223 жыл бұрын
Then if you play the frog card, I shall play the fog card in defense position thus ending my turn
@janglestick3 жыл бұрын
once you get a frog caught in your dreadlocks, it's all over
@amberbassoN123 жыл бұрын
Like satan in revelations. This story is clearly biblically inspired
@VIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAME Жыл бұрын
I love The King in Yellow, because it feels like the wasn't supposed to originally be part of the character's stories in the book. Most of the stories start off like the events of a relatively normal life, albeit sometimes having a strange undercurrent, but then the play comes in like a rogue star into a solar system and warps it beyond recognition.
@ridiculicious5 ай бұрын
When you say it like that, I wish these short stories showed up midway through the anthology, rather than at the beginning. i.e., After the poem at the beginning, you get (seemingly) unrelated stories until the KiY ones, then it ends with a few more different stories, similar to the current book. I've heard that the normal stories aren't too great though, so I don't know if reader attention would be engaged enough to reach that twist. You could include references to TKIY and the characters who read it throughout the normal stories, if not just straight up include them in normal settings where possible, so the reader is more unnerved by what's "unsaid" than what is. My only worry about interweaving these narratives is that it might change or dilute the message and vibes of the KiY stories. What do you think? DDLC did something similar to what I'm suggesting.
@edenmckinley34723 жыл бұрын
"Love your words enough to choose them well". Probably the best writing advice I have ever received.
@edenmckinley34723 жыл бұрын
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 Are you calling me an SJW loser? I'm just confused with your wording. Also, I know it's kinda cringey, but you have to admit that writers have the power to influence people's thoughts, and that is not a power anyone should take lightly. Few, if any, writing how-tos tell you this. That is what I meant.
@unknowninfinium43533 жыл бұрын
What does it mean?
@starshade78263 жыл бұрын
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 I see that you do not love your words, for you did not choose them well.
@edenmckinley34723 жыл бұрын
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 Okay. Just wondering. And you're preaching to the choir, buddy, because I'm a Judeo-Christian conservative. I just thought it was very true that writers should be conscious of what they put in their readers' heads. I'm less concerned about offending people and more concerned about coercing or brainwashing them, which is something SJWs try to do all the time.
@azuri...3 жыл бұрын
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 "choose your words well" = SJW loser ??????????
@frost96813 жыл бұрын
Also, the Hanged King and Scarlet King from the SCP universe are both influenced by The King in Yellow. Very interesting reads as well. They're very intertwined with other SCPs and it's a great way to lose yourself in a rabbit hole
@AnitaCarPye3 жыл бұрын
Oh greta thats not very good for me then. Lul.
@cherylbarclay26793 жыл бұрын
The hanged king is similar to the king in yellow, *really similar* He is the words, a empty vessel, after all he is "a hole in the shape of a God". But I don't understand the similarity to the scarlet king
@AnthonyDaFox3 жыл бұрын
@@cherylbarclay2679 Its in the Understanding of the Scarlet King. the Less you know of him the Safer you are from his Reach.
@MidwestCopy3 жыл бұрын
Aah yes the SCP universe!
@RG-ew1zz3 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this after seeing the title of the video
@robmarotta233 Жыл бұрын
In my upper level literature class in college, my professor told me, "No matter what you write and whatever you strive to say, when you release it to the reader, it becomes theirs and means what they think it does."
@chickenlover657 Жыл бұрын
Terrifyingly enough, this just as much applies to anything you speak or do. So the moral of this knowledge is stfu and don't move, or you inevitably provide people with things they can then throw at you.
@Stasemiszu Жыл бұрын
@@chickenlover657 then throw it back again
@chickenlover657 Жыл бұрын
@@Stasemiszu Nah, I discovered the trick is to let it go through you.
@andrewwindermere24258 ай бұрын
La mort de l'auteur
@michaelbarrett81418 ай бұрын
Nah it will never belong to them. Its my Story. I did invent it and came up with everything myself. The only One who can say what its real Purpose is is me. I dont just write for other People but for myself too. And thats why the Story only belongs to me.
@adrianaslund86053 жыл бұрын
HP Lovecraft didn't intend for all his gods to just look like squidpeople. They're much stranger than that.
@wolfmanhcc3 жыл бұрын
One can not fathom nor imagine. Shapes only as pleasant as the mind can comprehend.
@krashface48703 жыл бұрын
The idea of squid/seapeople as his 9wn envision of cosmic horror, from what I read, was merely his own reflection of his greatest fear: the sea. This said, if you need to write a monstrosity, always use something thatrealy invoke terror to your very eyes and write what emotions it wakes in you: Lovecraft and the creatures from the sea, you and whatever evoke dread in your mind... and I with eyes and insects (especially the smaller ones)
@renatocorvaro69243 жыл бұрын
HP Lovecraft couldn't figure out how circles work. He was just so bad at geometry (and other basic mathematic/scientific concepts) that in his attempts to explain something completely mundane, people thought he was talking about unknowable monstrosities. It cannot be said enough, Lovecraft doesn't deserve the majority of the praise he gets.
@roilen81313 жыл бұрын
@@renatocorvaro6924 example of something mundane he failed to explain?
@krashface48703 жыл бұрын
@@renatocorvaro6924 he was also fanatical at writing like it was 1800 still, yet considering his thematics he did a good job in his supposed ignorance at making the mundane rather extraordinare... plus readers are supposed, to a limit, to just say "ok, this is weird but sounds cool, I'll excuse this thing this time" in a story. I don't say all of Lovecraft's stories were a success, but if we must speak of some ancient, alien, extradimensional horror from beyond the veil of reality, what would fit better as their homes? A simple giant city that makes sense, or something that makes absolutely no sense for humans of this tiny world?
@Magnymbus3 жыл бұрын
"The very act of writing [fiction] invites an existential threat beyond that of any leviathan." - The Mystagogue of Mundanity (unpublished short story a friend from high school wrote. One of the few lines I remember.)
@kshitijbenedict84313 жыл бұрын
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@ARHanif-ej7oz3 жыл бұрын
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@Stiftoad3 жыл бұрын
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@Stiftoad3 жыл бұрын
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@LokiSeidrGod Жыл бұрын
I honestly love that while all of the entities are supposed to be mysterious and unexplainable monstrosities that’d shatter your mind, the king in yellow is the one who best fits the bill. He is a concept you can’t fully grasp. He is, and you know it, yet you can’t put your finger on what exactly he actually is. It feels cosmic, beautiful. Everyone gives him their own shade of yellow and that’s exactly how it should be.
@andrewramlall35603 жыл бұрын
The King in Yellow is such a cool concept that can be taken in so many ways, and I'm such a nerd for it
@TheMrEcks3 жыл бұрын
There was some talk Hastur represented Syphilis. The infectious spread and the hazy aspects of Carcosa point towards some sort of disease in many ways.
@Langtw3 жыл бұрын
My current favorite interpretation is the Impossible Landscapes campaign from Delta Green
@trigestigro47073 жыл бұрын
My favorite representation is from True Detective. And thats all i'll say hihi
@jasonbornonthefourthofjuly13513 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the yellow sign … have you seen the yellow sign.
@theguynooneremembers11483 жыл бұрын
A true nerd never brags about nerdness
@zanderford27333 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about the King in Yellow is how interpretable it is. It has these beautiful elements and imagery, we get these hints of names and figures, and you are allowed to puzzle piece these bits together as you feel. August Dereleth, professional "missing the pointer", added it to his version of the mythos by reskinning Cthulhu as Hastur (This is where you get KiY as a big scary tentacle monster.) Others have reinterpreted the play as films or paintings, others like Bliss's "More Light" try to recreate the play and explain why it has this mental effect. You can really ascribe any effects or themes you want, because the book just gives you these bits of pieces to chew on however you feel like, which makes it endlessly fascinating.
@christianmegachad28983 жыл бұрын
lol professional missing the pointer is a very good name for him. tho i do think it would be very possible to turn the king in yellow into a cosmic horror, just a more abstract conceptual being instead of a tentacle monster.
@niftyskates853 жыл бұрын
Whats "More Light" by Bliss? I can't find it. Thank you
@zanderford27333 жыл бұрын
@@niftyskates85 Oh sorry, must've autocorrected. More Light by James BLISH, not Bliss, is a short story in "The Hastur Cycle" which is a collection of thirteen stories involving the Carcosa mythos. It includes large original passages of the play with a framing device around them, and is a pretty interesting read, both for the content of the play and the ideas given about the play's effects. Hope this helps!
@paulkemp85203 жыл бұрын
As long as the main theme is kept, whatever or whoever the KiY is, it is a meme and an infohazard.
@storm-seeker3 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly positive August didn't write anything related to Hastur, he mostly just tried to inject christian archtypes of good and evil into lovecraft's universe and coined the Cthulhu Mythos term, much to the chagrin of other collaborators. I could be wrong though.
@mr.incognito32502 жыл бұрын
9:22-9:44 I’m impressed by how much expression is shown with that gaze! Not to mention the inversion of colors make the eyes look like your staring into a void. Such a small segment, yet that stare gave me chills!
@catgat49733 жыл бұрын
"All the whos down in whoville, the tall and the small were singing to him to which they were inthralled. Their songs they did sing, their voices did bellow and their sanity melted away before the king in yellow."
@justinh34212 жыл бұрын
I love this
@kevin0805922 жыл бұрын
The premise of the whovilles' habitat like "inside a snowflake, or inside a dandelion"( horton hears a who) were they can be obliterated at any instance by much a bigger external forces gives me this sense of lovecraftian existensial dread.. but i still love "how the grinch stole christmas though
@kyleguajardo2 жыл бұрын
Enthralled* (Sorry, great little rhyme!)
@davidgilroy19832 жыл бұрын
Never gonna be able to read the grinch who stole Christmas to my kids again without a shiver of dread.
@commonhousehuman2 жыл бұрын
ayo... 666 likes?
@Feamelwen3 жыл бұрын
One thing no one ever talks about when gushing about the book (but this video actually mentions it!) is that only a few stories in the book could be classified as horrror and mention the King in Yellow. Most of the stories bafflingly veer from cosmic horror into run-of-the-mill melodramatic turn-of-the-century retellings of the bohemian love lives of artists and students, complete with lots of fainting and flowers and such, without any hint of horror. I was baffled by this sudden turn and quietly erased it from my memory since.
@richardferguson68932 жыл бұрын
Until the "King" cycle, Chambers was primarily known for writing mediocre romances so perhaps old habits die hard.
@Nonresponder01 Жыл бұрын
I think it's considered "weird fiction" not horror
@trin-is-late Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh. That “into the hands of a living god” line is genius. It’s a direct reference to a bible verse about falling under judgement after death - not into a place like hell, but the person of God. This reference would have been clear to the people of this day (it was deeply overused, culturally), making it VERY CLEAR that the king in yellow has replaced whatever came before. Or maybe always was what came before. It’s a brilliant reference, and in cultural context, deeply scary. I love it.
@NZand3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that in the Repairer of Reputations the story is told from an unreliable narrator who has suffered a traumatic brain injury after a fall from a horse. You realize halfway through the story that he’s insane when he goes into detail about wearing a crown he took out of a safe and another character walks into his room and asks him why he is balancing a tin of biscuits on his head. I believe he also talks about “lethal chambers” or suicide booths that are probably just phone booths.
@georgearbuckle7029 Жыл бұрын
I'm incredibly late on this one, but I couldn't tell personally if the narrator was unreliable because of him falling off a horse or because he read the play. He reads the king in yellow towards the start of the story but not instantly and talks about death booths before he read the play, the doctors also said that he was psychologically analyzed and deemed him mentally stable enough to leave so the line between unreliable because of his injury or unreliable because of the play is a difficult one to draw
@Toolgirl64209 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, he was probably a delusional bigot before the horse or the play.
@_porkpie_ Жыл бұрын
good theory
@TheSaneHatter Жыл бұрын
That's a common, MODERN hypothesis about the story. But as it was written to take place a generation in the future from the book, and contains many predictions that proved to be flat-out wrong, that "unreliable narrator" hypothesis was created to explain the discrepancies.
@Nonresponder01 Жыл бұрын
@Nick Hentschel how does that explain the safe being a bread box and the the crown? I feel like he has to be unreliable for the conflicting dialogue to make sense.
@theenchilada52902 жыл бұрын
It's seems to me that the "King in Yellow" is the metaphorical/physical representation of Idealism. An ideal is something that is fabricated in the mind seperate from reality, it manifests unto your deepest fears and desires, it gives you hope in your own metaphysical hell. It is until you no longer have a grasp on the material world, the ideals you've placed upon yourself overwhelm you and destroy your identity. A death unseen in a place impossible to conceive.
@MelancoliaI2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, and keep in mind that the play is described as striking 'The supreme note of art;' it was acknowledged to be an absolute masterpiece despite it being evil and poisonous
@ichnusa97062 жыл бұрын
I love this idea so much, it makes perfect sense to me, ideals are underrated threats that can either be poisonous or positively enlightening
@guyincognito9592 жыл бұрын
That is beautiful. Creepy too, but beautifully clear. Somebody below mentioned that the figure on the cover is the writer himself, and another that the king on the artwork actually wears a jesters hood, being both king and fool/artist at the same time.
@starrywisdom Жыл бұрын
That was good.
@tyrant-den884 Жыл бұрын
The last of the four stories suggests to me it can go both ways: idealism, or utter meaninglessness.
@LeQuack147 Жыл бұрын
"This story will ruin your mind" *me, who physically couldn't get out of bed for an hour this morning thanks to a combo of exhaustion and depression:* You can't break what's already broken.
@csquared45389 ай бұрын
Hope you're feeling better today, homie.
@thebigboss18249 ай бұрын
I hope you are feeling better friend.
@elisehalflight7 ай бұрын
Here hoping you're feeling better, choom
@dentkort5 ай бұрын
Congratulations, want a cookie?
@ridiculicious5 ай бұрын
@@dentkort Probably, they weren't exactly asking for applause.
@encyclopediaespx11283 жыл бұрын
Not entirely unrelated but a fun story nonetheless; but a friend of mine once convinced my group to play a “Romeo & Juliet Tabletop”, where we would play original characters who could influence the story. Needless to say, we were actually playing a session of Cthulhu Dark, with Romeo & Juliet skinned over it to fool us. And we only figured it out when Romeo’s play “Ode to Juliet” had the lead donning a pallid mask and yellow robe. Biggest swerve I never saw coming by far. Edit: almost three years later and this comment is still insanely active compared to the usual stuff I drop. Just wanted to make an addendum here to continue to appreciate those that give kind words to one of my best friends, it’s a huge confidence boost to him.
@hixel12683 жыл бұрын
Shit that sounds amazing, I'd pay good money to see the table's reaction to that lol
@catbatrat17602 жыл бұрын
Holy f**k, that sounds like an amazing friend group to hang out with. I'm jealous.
@ethanregan-byrne42812 жыл бұрын
Aaaannnnnnnd im gonna steal this idea lol
@Konpekikaminari2 жыл бұрын
please tell your friend they're a genius
@encyclopediaespx11282 жыл бұрын
@@Konpekikaminari Done, I keep him regularly updated on this post because nearly half a year later it still gets props from people.
@marccolten98013 жыл бұрын
I first encountered The Yellow Sign more than 40 years ago in an anthology and then read the rest. The Yellow Sign is still my favorite. One of the interesting facts is about Chambers himself. Apparently he was at one time one of the most popular authors in America with dozens of romances in print. Someone dubbed him, not necessarily as a compliment, The Shopgirls’ Scheherazade. Now all those other books are gone but The King in Yellow is still there. Maybe that is the message.
@gareththorn43562 жыл бұрын
100% false. He couldn't tell the future.
@corbinbennett9382 жыл бұрын
@@gareththorn4356 He expressed an opinon. You dumbshit dick "Gareth"
@geraldmartin77032 жыл бұрын
I have one of his romance novels. King in Yellow was very much a one-off for the author. I can only wonder what inspired it.
@marccolten98012 жыл бұрын
@@geraldmartin7703 Cocaine? Absinthe?
@nagashtheundyingking44042 жыл бұрын
its kinda weird how accurate the representation the king in yellow has in the dating sim game "sucker for love:first date" highly recommend it if you are into HP lovecraft stuff pretty funny with a lot of refrences with both comedy/horror elements as you would think a love sim for comisc horror would be.
@War5aw2 жыл бұрын
Came here cuz Estir is best girl and had no idea she had a real lovecraftian basis
@andWaiting Жыл бұрын
Figured she had to have some, but this was great!
@Nicolas-gc2px Жыл бұрын
The king in yellow is pretty abstract but its impressive how the game personified in a physical character while still being super accurate to the source
@fantasyshadows3207 Жыл бұрын
KISS THE MOON
@robinchesterfield42 Жыл бұрын
I am so. freaking. GLAD that I'm not the first one to mention that game here. I mean...yeah...that's what I know "The King in Yellow" from. No seriously, never heard of it even the teensiest bit before, ever, until I saw Markiplier meet Estir in his playthrough. But that game is...REALLY weirdly well-written, with funny beats, almost-normalish dating sim elements, and the creepy stuff can get LEGIT creepy. Also all the voice actors rule. I think my fave takeaway from it is that "Worcestershire" is an Eldritch loanword, "why else would it be spelled like that?" XD
@LemurG2 жыл бұрын
The idea that the King in Yellow being the embodiment of the idea that someone’s words can affect other people for better or worse is so interesting! At least that’s how I interpret it. Someone succumbing to false information is basically how the Yellow King “gets you”
@mysterylovescompany26572 жыл бұрын
*Trump:* "Fake news!" _The King In Yellow has joined the chat._
@DolusVulpes2 жыл бұрын
It's not simply succumbing to false information, but rather succumbing to something fictitious to the degree that you become unable to seperate it from reality, and allowing such information to worm its way into all your thoughts.
@kbye23219 ай бұрын
@@DolusVulpes So… are all those reality-shifters all secretly part of the King in Yellow’s schemes?!? (/s, please don’t take this seriously)
@friendlyreminder32808 ай бұрын
Well if you change people to better then the king is “benevolent” if you change them to worse then the king is a “deceiver”
@caixucook35 ай бұрын
Damn ig the yellow king is just the daily mail
@MrSpinaal3 жыл бұрын
Even in the original book it is never depicted clearly how The King in Yellow looks, only some reactions from people around him when he takes off his mask. One of the best horror books out there.
@oninkn Жыл бұрын
Didn't notice this until I went back to your old videos, but your voice has gotten a lot smoother/softer in newer videos
@jdcoffeestreams43333 жыл бұрын
I've always interpreted the King in Yellow as living embodiment of The Artist's obsession. It works somewhat, and probably because it always gave me Hellraiser vibes.
@Broomer522 жыл бұрын
It’s the greatest theme of Lovecraftian stories it effects Artists no matter what it may be and in those who are yet artists the experience molds them into one. Their is an animation called White Wall I recommend because it metaphorically describes the horror in Lovcraftian stories. The beauty and horror of something not seen before and just after you get a good look at it, it’s gone. Desperate to see it again and to show others the thing unknown to the world but you they go into a frenzied madness trying to capture its image. They want to be seen, they want to be known but to know them is to be fueled with horrific inspiration.
@Vandalgia2 жыл бұрын
@@Broomer52 The original one is hardly Lovecraftian, it predates Lovecraft. In fact, Lovecraft was inspired by Chambers' narrative method of only vaguely referring to supernatural events, entities, and places.
@kevinbrooks9074 Жыл бұрын
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@holgerwilke48843 жыл бұрын
What if the 'yellow king' was just a metaphor for the power that lies in the words written in yellowed pages of books of literature, 'the king of arts'.
@gohanward49232 жыл бұрын
Bro
@karmat7102 жыл бұрын
@@gohanward4923 I mean, I think he's right.
@robertmitchell29012 жыл бұрын
You're Awesome.
@theghostofsabertache9049 Жыл бұрын
Horror babble has an amazing audiobook version here on KZbin, sometimes it’s easier listening than reading. They also have a 22 hour long audiobook of the Cthulhu mythos. One of the best channels ever.
@DukeOnkled2 жыл бұрын
The concept reminds me of a rather dangerous pitfall of fiction. Too often, I find myself enraptured by it, so fascinated by these dreamt worlds and their countless wonders that I begin to resent the reality in which I myself reside. I spend too many hours wishing to escape into these realms of endless novelty and curiosity, often to my own personal detriment. In a way, just like the titular play, fiction can take hold of you and encroach upon your own reality. We've filled shelves upon shelves upon shelves with all the things we can never have, of all the places we'll never visit, of all the people we'll never meet. Of all the happiness we'll never feel.
@damfhokage49932 жыл бұрын
Especially now in the era of "aesthetics". Though escapism through images and paintings, or even just poems and the way they can evoke the beauty of a space was already in vogue in the past.
@atomialep2 жыл бұрын
You think unhappiness is partly the result of fiction being compared to real life. I think fiction is the result of peoples unhappiness with real life. You think fiction makes people sadder, I think fiction makes people happier.
@SteamShinobi2 жыл бұрын
@@atomialep every story has context, so does it here. Heroin feels great if you ask an addict, thats what keeps them going back; every hour without their fix is worse, and exponentially so after each high. Emotions are cyclical and each peak defines the next trough. Some write to enhance beauty, others to escape horror. Nothing taken away from its context is ever properly defined; the context of life is that things are never bound to a single side.
@avgastas15152 жыл бұрын
Fuck my boy that kicked me right in my dicks heart
@dorototka2 жыл бұрын
Read Jung’s „Man and his symbols” and the boundaries might dissolve.
@robertwalker-smith27393 жыл бұрын
It's curious to think that Chambers had a long and lucrative career as a writer of romantic literature, yet almost all of his literary reputation today derives from those four stories.
@anotherinternetperson84953 жыл бұрын
Because romance books are the equivalent of a twitter post with a bit more value
@lordofthemound38902 жыл бұрын
@@anotherinternetperson8495 Romantic literature ≠ Romance novels.
@shannondavis36869 ай бұрын
When you open the gateway to the abyss, you don’t control who comes back through it with you. Be careful the gates you open. Both mentally and spiritually. The abyss always stares back.
@rileywiess78953 жыл бұрын
Hastur is definitely a Alien like, multidimensional demon. He/she/it preys on artist types. It exists on the edges of reality. It enjoys driving the artist types mad. Somewhat like a more prejudice Nyarlethotep. Potentially even Nyarlethotep, A theory states that Nyar is actually a vast majority of minor gods due to his shapeshifting ability. Maybe, maybe not. We will never know.
@partyrock41443 жыл бұрын
Well what we know as the king in yellow is more accurately described as the culmination of 3 things 1. The story the king in yellow 2. The feaster from afar 3. Hastor a minor and overall benevolent shepherd god
@kennethleo44713 жыл бұрын
Hastur, or The King in Yellow was a very large influence on the formation of Lovecraft's Nyarlethotep. Indeed anyone who has read the relevant short stories in The King in Yellow, can very easily see the influence the works had on H.P. Lovecraft not only for Nyarlethotep, but as a whole. Hastur, brings a level of terror for similar reasons to Nyarlethotep. Both take an interest in humanity, but for Nyarlethotep, torturing the poor little creatures is the end goal in of itself, it's fun for him. But Hastur, his machinations and reasons just outside of our current knowledge, uses humanity, wields them for his own ends. He understands human societies and the structures therein, he understands the nature of humanity, he understands he doesn't need to control ALL the humans, just the important ones. The rest will simply follow.
@syrienangel41373 жыл бұрын
@@kennethleo4471He also hates Cthulhu. Like, a lot
@AtomFA3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethleo4471 nyarlethotep wants the throne at the center of chaos for himself can't be bothered
@EdgieAlias3 жыл бұрын
They is a word
@rami_ungar_writer3 жыл бұрын
I just read The King in Yellow myself not too long ago. The first four stories are phenomenal, though you need to think deeply about them to truly understand them. At least I now feel comfortable using the King in Yellow and Hastur in my stories in the future (like Stephen King did with his story Gramma).
@cassiemichael74142 жыл бұрын
I always hought that 1980s movie The Mouth of Madness with Sam Neill was based off of this part of H.P. Lovecraft's work. The whole notorious story that grabs hold of people like a virus thing sounds like the King in Yellow. However, there's other things Lovecraftian about it, too. Like the fact that the story drives its "fans" to madness and some even start looking different. the more you read, the more you transform into something...other. I also love the part where the missing author that Sam Neill's character is looking for is actually the one causing all the trouble, and not in a "oh, let's pull a publicity stunt about going missing, but it's all fake to sell more copies of my latest book," way.
@TheAbigailDee3 жыл бұрын
The idea that the author might not have had a choice to write about the play!!!!! Omg I loved that.
@TheAsylumCat3 жыл бұрын
An interesting thought is that information and ideas are almost viral things, Lovecraft himself had themes of mankind's instinctual curiosity being the end of them. We call this memes or memetics in full, and inevitably in any mention of the King in Yellow you'll have someone ask "have you seen the Yellow Sign?" As a meme.
@sixstringsoneway2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you know some literature, but can you get behind a drumset and rock the crowd on a Friday night???
@victorgarcia-comendador26562 жыл бұрын
@Flintlock Musket down the rabbit hole of seeing for the first time in the same day the All Tomorrows, man after Man, and the King in Yellow, I see a Metal Gear Rising reference. Do u have any more recommendations my dude?
@slueepy12322 жыл бұрын
@uhh fuсkin dead Wash away the anger
@MrGregory7772 жыл бұрын
Reading the King in Yellow made me feel like I was going insane. Truly amazing
@wahbegan2 жыл бұрын
I really love the idea of "The King in Yellow" as some kind of infectious and possibly sentient(?) idea. It still feels eldritch, but in a more unique way
@robinchesterfield42 Жыл бұрын
You know what this reminds me of? It's a freakin' SCP! An SCP in literature form, that spreads into new peoples' minds by retelling. I'm very sure there're already SCPs like that, so this would fit right in. (Maybe it already IS one, specifically--I'm not an SCP expert.)
@hansnorleaf Жыл бұрын
Maybe the MAGA movement and Q-anon are manifestations of The King in Yellow
@franzorellana6382 Жыл бұрын
@@robinchesterfield42CP 3125, you can search for a declassified post or video explaining it, one of the most dangerous cognito hazard entities
@thegreatandterrible45083 жыл бұрын
I based a dark god in my D&D campaigns on The King in Yellow. Proper non-Hastur King in Yellow.
@hannahross92563 жыл бұрын
My DM had a bunch of zombies, not quite fully dead or mindless, afflicted with a yellow mold of sorts which made them the way they were. Then, near the end, one of the zombies looked at our party and said "have you seen the yellow sign?" I nearly died
@thegreatandterrible45083 жыл бұрын
@@hannahross9256 That's super interesting. My campaign with him in it also had my homebrew variant of mindflayers, who are kind of non-braindead zombies. (or like the Yerks from Animorphs? They replace your brain like RAW mindflayers, but not your exterior, tentacles come out the mouth when they feed)
@paleoleft3 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatandterrible4508 that reminds me of the Ood from doctor who
@thegreatandterrible45083 жыл бұрын
@@paleoleft I've thought that too, but it definitely gets the right reaction when you describe to your players how an NPC's eyes roll back in their heads and tendrils extend from their mouths, trying to wriggle their way into your eyes and ears to tear your skull apart and feast on what's within.
@XthegreatwhyX3 жыл бұрын
"Non-Hastur" and "Hastur" King in Yellow are perfectly compatible, though. Within a shared universe, The King in Yellow could be Hastur's attempt to spread himself through our plane by using a thought virus inscribed or encoded within a play.
@NickJones-cl3lzАй бұрын
You have spread the legend of the Yellow King. You bastard. We're all doomed.
@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist3 жыл бұрын
"this story will ruin your mind." *Me with an already ruined mind.* "Challenge accepted."
@r4ndy0 Жыл бұрын
Best comment 🏆
@EllyCatfox Жыл бұрын
Came here from Signalis. Thank you for making this video. ♡
@JazzSicaa11 ай бұрын
based
@matthuck3783 жыл бұрын
It was a dangerous meme before the term was coined, and before SCP made the idea of a deadly, infectious idea cool. This is an older idea than the King In Yellow too. Much of the point of the fear of magic, the occult, witchcraft, and the educated/literate, etc. stems from people being afraid of writing itself. Thinking the act of "making words stay" was inherently magical and possibly evil. It's an ancient idea, really. Might even be older than civilization. Might even be older than writing. It could have started with an irrational fear of drawing.
@nyarparablepsis8723 жыл бұрын
Uhm. I work as an Assyriologist, and from the inception of writing onwards there are no sources whatsoever in the entire text corpus of the Ancient Near East that indicate that people were afraid of writing, or didn't trust it. I think what you said might be the case for the European Dark Age(s), but it certainly isn't a universal or early thing.
@SonofSethoitae3 жыл бұрын
@@nyarparablepsis872 There's also not much evidence for it in the Dark Ages. Though to be fair, the Dark Ages are called that because there isn't much evidence in general.
@_Gandalf_The_White3 жыл бұрын
@@nyarparablepsis872 Maybe it was an unwritten rule? Hahahaha
@soencoda7543 жыл бұрын
@@nyarparablepsis872 hey, I think I remember a passage from James C Scott "against the grain" refering to the quite common aversion to writing in stateless societies, beacause writing was percived as a mean to control/tax the population. We don't see anyone in State litterature being afraid of writing, but maybe this is just because it's writen by people who have an interest in presenting writing as good/necessary ?
@nyarparablepsis8723 жыл бұрын
@@soencoda754 That might of course be possible, since the scribes producing the texts probably were pretty biased pro-writing. Then again, Mesopotamia was not a stateless society, but a pretty complex state. I'll check out the book
@kalifinch83763 жыл бұрын
I swear to GOD your videos are the singular thing getting me through English this year. I love the way you pick apart narratives and stories and explain them. your in-depth analysis and mentality towards stories has taught me to look at stories, and the themes/symbols/characters within them in whole new ways also, my take on the King in Yellow, is that he represents hatred, with Carcosa representing the place we go when we dwell in our Hatred. it makes sense, since the dark trance-like atmosphere of the planet represents the dark trance-like state of rage. of thinking of your hatred and letting it fester and grow. the King himself being the voice in your head that is hate. the voice that tells you to hurt others because of your dislike of them. with this in mind, I think the play represents physical hatred, and the action on internal feelings of hate. the infectous properties of the plat mirror how hatred can spread just as quickly as any virus. the victims of the play's power serving as both poignant allegories of victims of the hate; or on the other side of the coin, those radicalized by it. Idk tho thatz just my two cents
@EyelessJackOfficial2 жыл бұрын
I heard about The King in Yellow in the game called Sucker for Love, didn't think much about it, on if It was based on anything actually or not, and gotta say I'm glad this showed up in my recommended.
@CaptainPieBeard3 жыл бұрын
What if The Yellow King is actually just "the friends we met along the way"?
@Seen4202 жыл бұрын
Great heavens!
@robertmitchell29012 жыл бұрын
@@Seen420 LMAO
@bobbypierce6536 Жыл бұрын
then introverts are safe. Extroverts, however, are most likely dead.
@funkoxen Жыл бұрын
My god, its full of stars
@LokiSeidrGod Жыл бұрын
So he is the source of it? Friendship power? He is the power up every anime protagonist draw upon! Genius! Talk-no-jutsu was the yellow king all along!
@doublestarships6462 жыл бұрын
I think it all just represents the horrifying power of art. Stories and art were with us since the dawn of cave drawings. It's in our very DNA to be influenced through the arts I think. It's a force.
@GroundbreakGames7 ай бұрын
Art is magic as it can be left behind by one person and effect or change the consciousness of another, even thousands of years later. Then pen truly is mightier than the sword.
@karite24 ай бұрын
I love the usage of the color yellow in writing, especially looking to Dorian Grey. He always wore yellow gloves after his painting was made. I see it as a color that makes one present as golden to others, but underneath that gold is a sickening yellowed soul that brings nothing but destruction in their wake, with no one able to see it.
@thereprehensible4353 жыл бұрын
Cognito hazards are the most fascinating of all thought-provoking anomalies.
@AtomFA3 жыл бұрын
pontypool
@matthewgallaway36753 жыл бұрын
I love this. I took away that this is someone taking the idea of “ideas being dangerous” very seriously and it tickles my brain! In a very good way!
@lordsolrak17133 жыл бұрын
if you like those themes , i recomend the adventures of marion wheeler in the scp fandom . 10/10 tale
@PaulStringini3 жыл бұрын
L Ron Hubbard, Dianetics, and the Church of Scientology come to mind.
@grantflippin78082 жыл бұрын
All art is propaganda
@chloegunter16302 жыл бұрын
@@lordsolrak1713 sgwhhh2
@chloegunter16302 жыл бұрын
@@lordsolrak1713 5t
@DreamLordGarsha4 ай бұрын
I have read The King in Yellow three times. It is an absolute masterpiece. No other collection of stories made such a powerful impression on my emotions, taking me from the heights of joy to the depths of despair and back. Many times I have wished that I could find The Repairer of Reputations or meet the Demoiselle D'Ys, and I pray that I never walk into The Court of the Dragon or find The Yellow Sign. Robert W. Chambers was able to get The King in Yellow published in both America and England in 1895, yet the language is so clear that all the stories feel as though they could have been written yesterday and are just as meaningful to life in today's world as they were in their own time.
@Aman123ace3 жыл бұрын
I had a thought, so it is often said in the stories that the second act of the king in yellow drives one mad and that the first act being so plain only serves to deepen the madness. As it happens the book is the reverse, the first part maddeningly hints at a symbol, or place or being called the king in yellow but we never fully comprehend it, and then the rest of the book is so plain and full of trivialities that it only serves to frustrate the curious and comprehensive reader. Just a thought but perhaps he did this intentionally, much like the world of the book, avid scholars know at least of the king in yellow from pop culture, but deeper dives into the lore only result in frustration and if obsessed over, madness. and so, much like the fictional play which has infested the minds of people in the story so to does the concept of the king in yellow linger with us though not as harmful as the story imagines. even just taking this little dip into the story as I have, has made me think about this more
@robertmitchell29012 жыл бұрын
you're brilliant.
@gamingoverlord8854 Жыл бұрын
Compounding what the other guy said. You're brilliant
@CarlErikSimonsen3 жыл бұрын
Having read the story myself, I instantly saw the connection to John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness. Another parallel I would like to point out for those interested is Roko's Basilisk
@markw.loughton67863 жыл бұрын
In the mouth of madness is Lovecraft.
@CarlErikSimonsen3 жыл бұрын
@@markw.loughton6786 In the Mouth of Madness has both drawn from Lovecraft and The King in Yellow. Notice the parallell between Sutter Cane's work and the play in Chambers' book. They both drive everyone who read them mad and convinced that they're part of the story. They're both composed in a way that makes us see this descent into madness through the main character's eyes; we as readers (and watchers) experience the same seamless transition from sane to mad as the story progresses. In Chambers' book this is reflected through the words chosen and in the movie through the surreal climax.
@rickwrites26122 жыл бұрын
Roko's basilisk seems riddled with fallacies to me. Its so hard to accept that this idea frightens logical people. Same with matrix/simulation theory, though the issue with that one is it seems irrelevant.
@TheClarkCooper2 жыл бұрын
Do you read Sutter Cane?
@Broomer522 жыл бұрын
@@rickwrites2612 The King in Yellow functions as a working Rokkos Basilisk. It’s power comes from those who observe the play and it doesn’t like being ignored. While it has power over the world to any degree it sustains itself by spreading. Making sure it’s observed so Hasturs power remains. It exists as an idea and as an observed concept it uses it’s power to sustain itself.
@jeffdintexasАй бұрын
I grabbed a PDF of the entire volume. These stories triggered some primal sense of bleak dread. I so rarely get the endorphins that accompany despair.
@delfin74613 жыл бұрын
I felt the need to read it after the first season of True Detective... totally broke my brain. Even more than The Yellow Wallpaper, a story about madness as well.
@santos84683 жыл бұрын
I knew there had to be a True Detective comment in here somewhere.
@TheCountOfMommysCrisco3 жыл бұрын
I find The Yellow Sign fascinating. Almost like Roko's Basilisk where if you take the idea too seriously it can really mess with your perspective. The concept behind The Yellow Sign is that it's basically a curse posing as a meme. In today's internet world that's an extra-scary thought.
@Broomer522 жыл бұрын
Hastur, The King in Yellow, gains control of people through his influence and his influence is spread by the play. Hastur doesn’t like being ignored. The whole book is written like it wasn’t made by a person. Like Foundry said how their was this weird fog reading the stories and the feeling something was wrong. The stories are like a fever dream even the more “normal” ones and the play is called King in Yellow but the book is also called it. It could be a meta narrative that this book too was made through the influence of the King in Yellow. You have seen the Yellow Sign, and you have seen the King in Yellow and now he has seen you and it’s image is stuck in your head.
@rinzler6662 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the yellow sign ?
@rizkiramadhan92662 жыл бұрын
It's not funny tho?
@rizkiramadhan92662 жыл бұрын
@Syd McCreath my thoughts exactly
@mysterylovescompany26572 жыл бұрын
It always made me think of House Of Leaves; the King is the Minotaur, & the book is just his way jnto your mind.
@royalvartist14 күн бұрын
I have yet to fully wrap my head around this (collection of) stories, and I do plan to sit down and read it in its entirety soon. I love hearing about it though, it makes the story and kingly character almost like a ghost story or something to be afraid of simply because it is unknown to me. I'm glad I have wonderful videos and communities like this to come back to and spark my curiosity and creativity again!
@kadoj3 жыл бұрын
Heh! I just this morning listened to a fantastic short story about the king in yellow. IMO, Hastur is definitely a monster... he’s the only elder god (or emissary thereof, depending on who wrote the source material) who has the capability (or perhaps just the motivation) to interact directly with the human race in a way we can understand, albeit marginally. But he only does so because of the quality he shares with the rest of the outer gods; a total, complete, uncaring disregard for life and it’s needs or preferences. He just _seems_ like less of a monster because he’s the only one of the bunch that we can even comprehend the very edges of, I think. Although he was originally portrayed as a benign god of shepherds, the vast majority of material suggests that when he does such things he does them as a ploy to advance his own inscrutable aims..edit: wait a sec. nyarlathotep is the emissary. Disregard pretty much all of that, my mistake. 🧐 I guess my mind was ruined even before I clicked. Oh, The black stars of dim carcosa, Have you seen the yellow sign? Oh great king, in his tattered robes... All we have to offer him are blood and bones...
@leakypeach62503 жыл бұрын
Lol. As I was reading this, I was thinking "Nyarlathotep tho?"
@nunyabiznes333 жыл бұрын
@@leakypeach6250 Oh God, he was infected! Now we will be too after interacting with him!
@mjzacchea28883 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump is the KiY
@kadoj3 жыл бұрын
@@mjzacchea2888 more like the king in fake , unnatural, and off-putting orange, but still fairly close. Just a hop skip and a jump down the ol spectrum, all things considered.
@mjzacchea28883 жыл бұрын
@@kadoj it's not his color; it's what he uses as a backdrop.
@pumpkingamebox3 жыл бұрын
“Literature isn’t something that’s supposed to help people! Literature should be a poison!” “It could be just one line. I want to pour in a deadly poison. Just one person is enough. I want to influence that person’s heart with poison.” This dialogue is between two writers from my favorite story ever. A true masterpiece in my eyes. The story is “Koi wa ameagari no you ni” or “Love like after the rain.” They have a fantastic manga and anime adaptation. It might seem like a love story between a high school student and a 40 year old guy. But it becomes so much more later in the story. It truly gives me inspiration in life. KZbinr named Grex also made a good analysis of it.
@searing5703 жыл бұрын
Yes. I loved that manga.
@sommerblume96713 жыл бұрын
Wait how can that be a love story
@joaonitro51493 жыл бұрын
@@sommerblume9671 by being a love story.
@sommerblume96713 жыл бұрын
@@joaonitro5149 Idk man usually highschool students and a 40 year old wouldn't interact. I'm hoping that this highschooler is like what 18 or smth ?
@joaonitro51493 жыл бұрын
@@sommerblume9671 If manga and anime needed to be realistic then it would be boring af.
@StillCisTho422 жыл бұрын
The game "Signalis" has this book in it and I just realized it is a real book. Hopefully this video helps me understand WTH happened in that game.
@gebbygebbers20 күн бұрын
I'm here for the same reason. I'd say.... Ariane took role of the King. 😂 Reality warper, wow shocker
@louisdarden1083 жыл бұрын
I thought Genevieve ending up in the bath was a freak accident; y'know, since it's a clear watery liquid that got left in a bathtub in her own house. Which, ignoring suspension of disbelief, why did Boris think it was a good idea to put gallons of that stuff in the house at all really, but especially in a bathtub?
@zealotoftheorchard98533 жыл бұрын
Marketing
@epicsmashman68062 жыл бұрын
Perhaps on purpose
@icefiredragon943 жыл бұрын
Oh nice, the King in Yellow! One of my favorite concepts/entities in horror. I'm still looking for a creepypasta I've read a long time ago based on the collection where a screenwriting student finds an ancient tome with a play in it in their library but doesn't use it. They find out later their own teacher, in a rush to get a proper play together made hers based on one of the tome's stories. On the performance night, all the actors are wearing masks and performing normally, an unknown figure roaming around the stage. Eventually the actors start to detract from their lines and eventually see the mysterious figure, praising them as King before slicing their own necks. Seeing the play causes the audience to go berserk, leading the teacher and student having to get away so they won't get hurt. Had a phase years ago where i was obsessed with the entity after that. Good times.
@hollow12793 жыл бұрын
are you may be referring to the hanged king?
@aerai_3 жыл бұрын
sounds like the hanged king from the scp foundation
@018FLP3 жыл бұрын
"Love your words enough to choose then well." wow, what a beautiful lesson!
@raininglightss59762 жыл бұрын
There is a dating sim where you court eldrich beings and the king in yellow is one of them, I had no idea what or who the king in yellow was until now. The dating sim is love sucks btw
@NistorIonutCiprian2 жыл бұрын
This was my first time watching one of your videos and I loved every moment of it. Thank you and I look forward to listening to your old and new videos!
@omnipenne91013 жыл бұрын
I like the vibe of the King in Yellow. They give me the same feeling I got from stories like Mononoke (the medicine seller one, not the Ghibli one) and Darkmans.
@Broomer522 жыл бұрын
It’s so dissonant like Foundry explained almost by design like it’s not a person who wrote it. If you hadn’t noticed the Play is called “The King in Yellow” but the book is also called that. The King in Yellow is sustained by its observation and you read it with confusion and curiosity. Stories with some odd connection you can’t quite make out and this off putting feeling that something is wrong but nothing about it seems wrong. The Stories are odd and almost dream like.
@MadScientistGuitarLab3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most important and significant video I’ve seen in months! I kept feeling like The King in Yellow was a harbinger of online doom only to be beautifully followed by addressing “The Algorithm” and how it controls what we can see and hear, what we can show and say. Absolutely brilliant, even if not intended, but especially because it’s not pointed out.
@favouronwuchekwa2 жыл бұрын
Video title :"This story will ruin your mind" 1.6M people : Sounds good to me
@toonnoon193 жыл бұрын
This book reminds me of Tenacious D. In their travels, the duo run into the devil. To save their souls, they offer Satan "the greatest song ever written" but instead they sing a song ABOUT how great the greatest song ever written is, which works on the devil. This book is a song about a life changing song. (And a huuuuge copout given the lack of a true "song")
@TheSleeplessSleeperAgent2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't drawn that parallel yet, but god damn, you're too right.
@unknownbutknown3322 жыл бұрын
Why does it work
@TheSkyGuy772 жыл бұрын
Its not a cop-out. The idea of a thing is often worse than the thing itself. Like fear itself.
@toonnoon192 жыл бұрын
@@TheSkyGuy77 this basalisk is like wondering if its gonna rain or snow at the bus stop. The only threat determining factor is whether or not you cared enough to dress for the worst.
@Mae_Dastardly2 жыл бұрын
I thought they DID play the greatest song, but for the devil, then played the tribute for us
@stevenbrawley3263 жыл бұрын
THE MASK sounds like YOUNG WERTHER fanfiction, but the excerpt at the beginning sounds like something Edgar Allan Poe would have written instead of Goethe.
@Kilroyan3 жыл бұрын
y'know, 'Werther by way of Poe' seems like a very apt way of characterizing the story.
@jerichohill4872 жыл бұрын
The reason those are in the book is simple. Chambers said he hated horror, and "weird"fiction. The A list romantic stuff is what Chambers thought was important, for him, those are the stories that mattered. He only put the good ones in because of his editors insistence
@Normaschthewanderer6 ай бұрын
Source?
@TH3F4LC0Nx3 жыл бұрын
Yo I literally just did a review of this book like a lil while ago, lol! XD I think The King in Yellow really marked the dawn of cosmic horror. (The play may only be mentioned in the first 4 stories, but I do think they're all meant to be taken together. The time travel story mentions a lake named Hali, I think, which corresponds with a location from Carcosa, and the protagonist in the war story briefly passes through the Cour de Dragon, which kinda hints that it takes place in the same world as the Court of the Dragon story. So I do think it's all a more or less singular work. Kinda.)
@tudoraragornofgreyscot84823 жыл бұрын
Do you take review requests?
@TH3F4LC0Nx3 жыл бұрын
@@tudoraragornofgreyscot8482 Uhh, sure! If you'd like me to review a specific book, and if I own that book, I'll try to do so! :D
@tudoraragornofgreyscot84823 жыл бұрын
@@TH3F4LC0Nx when you’re done with Homestuck, I recommend you check out the Six of Crows duologu!
@tudoraragornofgreyscot84823 жыл бұрын
I think KZbin ate my second comment, let’s try Discord or something.
@niftyskates853 жыл бұрын
Sick! I'm check out ur channel. You seem invested and enthusiastic about reading.
@timothydaly81613 жыл бұрын
As a writer I need to read this book. I usually write short stories but this is short stories that is basically a novel. It sounds fantastic,. Thanks for the information but I need to read this.
@JetsamificationАй бұрын
I love the King in Yellow mythos! 💛📒🖤 I wrote a 13-story homage to it called THE THING IN YELLOW!
@ActiveAura9513 жыл бұрын
I’m not going to lie. I’ve been spending a few years trying to figure out the meaning of the King in Yellow. I’ve even read up to prophet’s paradise, hoping to find something. I do got to say, I think this interpretation of the play is honestly the best one!
@EBThisThat3 жыл бұрын
I was familiar with the work, but I didn't realize how influential it was. The beginning poem is reminiscent of Poe's work, too.
@evewong.k54502 жыл бұрын
Wow, I am realizing in the middle of this that this story and the reasoning for its connection to hp lovecraft is what inspired its appearance in "sucker for love"
@unknownbutknown3322 жыл бұрын
Explain? please😅 I'm curious
@Thy_Punishment_Is_OOF2 жыл бұрын
@@unknownbutknown332 "Sucker for love" is a dating simulator where you date cute humanoid female(I guess if they have genders) lovecraftian monsters like a "female ctulthu" and female King in Yellow. There's a third abomination, but I won't write about that.
@elliotstannard56212 жыл бұрын
The King is in us all, his words are spoken to those willing to listen, but his words are withstood by those who are willing to do so, and channel it to embolden themselves.
@FionaLovecraft3 жыл бұрын
"It's hard to know why these stories are in here" They were published in the 30s, they got the authors some extra cash!
@lordvaust58302 жыл бұрын
The King in Yellow is my favorite Eldritch God. I recently evoked him in my D&D campaign as an encounter for my players to face. It was creepy, and elegant, and deadly. A lot of fun.
@croaxleigh3 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to get a group together to play Pelgrane Press' "King in Yellow" RPG, since it puts the players into the world of the stories where the play exists and exerts supernatural influence on those who read it.
@princeofcupspoc90733 жыл бұрын
Toyah Willcox The Packt Track 6 on The Changeling Produced by Steve Lillywhite Release Date June 7, 1982 The doors blow open "You've arrived Now why do you kill Bring diseases and plight?" (I sigh) Silence Cold icy air Black manic stare Wait - A reply "No not I It's a lie, It's a lie I wouldn't do these things It's she, she's sin" You make my flesh creep You've always managed to repulse me Along the shore The cloud waves break The twin suns sink behind the lake Strange is the night Now black stars rise And many moons circle Through the skies Why? Where is she now? She'd let the dawn rise She's bring peace She'd silence the beast He scratches his leathery skin and grins A pungent stench omits from him "Yes", he said Bowing his thorny head "She's dead" Along the shore The cloud waves break The twin suns sink behind the lake Strange is the night Now black stars rise And many moons circle Through the skies I'll make ye a packt I'll stop war Starvation Disease Poverty I'll even stop time But you'll be mine For eternity Remember No more time If you want to rid me I present to you The Atom Bomb It will rid all I've promised Now remember the packt You're mine I feel my skin hang to my skull Suction forces my shell to break Liquid confusion Hits the deck
@lauraholmes240214 күн бұрын
Words have an immeasurable power that should not be underestimated. Choose yours carefully
@colinsmith14953 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Chambers when it comes to psychological horror, and IMO he was far beyond Lovecraft. Lovecraft's horrors, to me, ultimately come down to 'scary monster' and the idea that people's minds just 'break'. You hear the people TELL you that they think they lost their minds.... because they saw a fish-man and an obelisk. Or their dreams were strange and disturbed... because a giant ancient squid-demi-god was nearby. It just all falls flat to me. The horror is too identifiable, and the fragility of the human mind is something that, while true for a select few, isn't true for most of us. Robert Chambers, on the other hand, presents a horror that's far less identifiable. The play isn't the horror. The King in Yellow somehow may NOT be the horror. The horror is what happens, but there's no explanation of HOW, WHO, WHY. It somehow is just believable enough, with blame being put on this strange play and the mythic figure and land it portrays, but there's ultimately no CLEAR connection, just that the play is somehow a precursor for such fates. Whatever the mechanism is, it stays well hidden.
@FnjordKnot3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you don't really "get" Lovecraft.
@colinsmith14953 жыл бұрын
@@FnjordKnot I get Lovecraft, but the threat of a 'great old one' with powers and abilities that defy logic and reason itself is somehow much less frightening to me than the idea of .... an idea.... which does all that and has all that power. I also think the best difference between Chambers and Lovecraft is that, reading Lovecraft, at no point do I, THE READER, really want to delve more into that madness and knowledge. In Chambers, even as I read all the horrible things that happen to people who read even a fragment of the play, I still want to read more of the play myself. That's the biggest difference to me. Lovecraft is easy to dissociate from and just say 'it's a story' happening to 'other people' in 'other places' that aren't real. Chambers has just that little bit of connection to the real world, that 'That fragment they read may have been the very fragment that was at the beginning of this book'. Even as I know it's 'just a story', there's a part of me that asks, 'are you sure you won't be the next part'.
@aaronisaacman16233 жыл бұрын
Fully agree. Maybe I also don't "get" Lovecraft, but I never found him that scary. Remember how Stephen King's IT was really scary up until the back half? In the end, the creature's true form was incomprehensible, but the rough approximation was a giant spider thing. Very few people found this as scary as the earlier parts where this being was psychologically toying with its food. I feel like at least some people must like Lovecraft on his reputation. Other people have said it's scary, so it must be pretty good. Then once you've aligned yourself with that idea, you might go on to perpetuate it. Why is basically the same idea the lame part of one story but needs to be treated with reverence somewhere else? I haven't heard of Chambers before today, but from this video, I like his ideas and writing style. I'll give him a look. I've read maybe a half dozen Lovecraft stories, and the one I liked most was where he ditched his usual formula and wrote about a witch.
@duskdweeb13682 жыл бұрын
I think you only read only few of Lovecraft's works as the Great Old One/Ultimate Gods rarely appear and stems from Lovecraft's anti-religious atheism, if anything, most of Lovecraft's stories horror comes from Fermi's Paradox
@colinsmith14952 жыл бұрын
@@ajaxslamgoody9736 I'm familiar with the Dream Cycle, but ultimately it's more of the same. It's an alternate world (several really) with weird rules and strange monsters. It's the stuff of nightmares, literally, but that also takes away from the ultimate horror. They're just nightmares, unless you venture waking and bodily into that realm. And even then, it's the realm of dreams, it's just that there are some scary monsters with monster powers in there. And yes, I'm aware that Carcosa originates (near as we can tell at least) from Bierce. Bierce's story of a resident of that 'ancient and famous city', however, is much more materially somber, as was most of his work. The city itself is barely mentioned, and nothing odd or otherworldly about it appears. Instead, the whole story is about a man realizing he has died and is a ghost haunting the lost and decayed ruins of his own civilization. Here's how I'll compare them: The Dream Cycle is like the Jason series. An Inhabitant of Carcosa is like The Others or The Sixth Sense. The King in Yellow is like ... something else entirely. It doesn't TELL you something is tempting and attractive, it MAKES it tempting and attractive. It's like the succubus of horror, even as it tells you it'll destroy your life, you think 'and it might just be worth it'. The very fact that such complex mythos has arisen around Carcosa and the King in Yellow is proof of the effectiveness. By the story, spreading that knowledge at all makes YOU the monster, and your life is damned just for knowing the name.
@tonylu24713 жыл бұрын
There is a fanfiction in the mlp community called The Star in Yellow. Apparently the story was inspired by this book. Also the Dawn Somewhere people did a parody of the fanfiction as part of their mentally advanced series. Was really enjoyable. I guess this book and the ideas within really gets some miles.
@sststr Жыл бұрын
If you are thinking of reading The King in Yellow, you would do well to first read Ambrose Bierce's "An Inhabitant of Carcosa", given that Carcosa is referenced a fair bit throughout. I've actually done this book as an audiobook on my channel, you can find it as a playlist there. The first story is really the best of the lot, and the last couple of stories are just pedestrian romances that are jarringly out of place with the rest. They're fine if you like that kind of thing, they just don't fit in with the theme of the earlier stories. But at the very least, the first story is worth a read (or listen).
@tired95103 жыл бұрын
The description of the story, and who it affects reminds me of the Red Scare and the fear tactics and book bannings. I remember there was one anti-communist speaker who condemned the artist class (those affected the most by the play) because they walk among all classes of people, and "don't know/stick to their place." It also reminds me of how the first Night of the Living Dead iteration was about the spread of zombie-ism being an allegory for the spread of communism.
@kennethsmith53833 жыл бұрын
I die laughing at the old mcarthyism "communisms bad!!!" stuff, like the pamphlets.
@lifotheparty61953 жыл бұрын
Bare in mind, the “hero” dies at the end, murdered by a posse looking for the zombies. Throughout the film the greater danger fairly consistently was other people.
@RabbiHerschel3 жыл бұрын
Reminder that the "Red Scare" was right, and there was a massive communist spy ring extending through the entire American media and government. McCarthy did nothing wrong.
@kennethsmith53833 жыл бұрын
Good golly the clown brigade is out en masse. Back to telegram.
The king in yellow is referenced in the first season of true detective. One of the villans even looks at the cops and says that they are joined in carcosa.
@joeherschel53963 жыл бұрын
“All I do, is sit down at the typewriter, and start hittin' the keys. Getting them in the right order, that's the trick. That's the trick.”
@jamesdouglas033 жыл бұрын
"I'll be your yellow man, carcosa land..." Yung Lean - Yellowman
@angelotana30407 ай бұрын
Valdor just chilling with his grail, blank, blood angels army and making a new army list.....
@MidwestCopy3 жыл бұрын
The Techno/metal band 'I See Stars' has a song on one of their albums called "Yellow King"... I have been curious about this "king" myself for a few years now, so thank you for doing this video! Fantastic content per usual!
@annabell33853 жыл бұрын
David Bowie's last album which he died before he finished is about Carcosa. The video is creepy.
@xionale62023 жыл бұрын
Weird, I’ve been listening to I See Stars for a while and I never even realized. Maybe it’s because I enjoy their lighter stuff.
@alexandraluster2842 жыл бұрын
This actually sounds a lot like the main plot of In The Mouth of Madness. It's a movie about an author who's writing is so influential, that it destroys the world.
@battousai78998 ай бұрын
He is the personification of the “endless journey to know” “existential dread leading to madness”
@warlockfangirl3 жыл бұрын
Finally, you all will see! The glorious sign, the beautiful shores of Carcossa, the black stars above, and the tatters of the King...
@johnbrittingham44713 жыл бұрын
The Yellow King and Carcosa are an underlying theme of the True Detective series Season 1. An excellent crime anthology series with Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey, takes place in Louisiana and follows a pair of Louisiana State Police detectives, and their pursuit of a serial killer with occult links over a 17-year period.
@rinzler6663 жыл бұрын
When I heard Carcosa i instantly thought of true detective season one. One of my fav TV series of all time. Now Im definitely going to read the king in yellow.
@Maestro-gh2ei3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone posted this comment, the critically acclaimed videogame bloodborne is also based on lovecraftian horror
@FigmentForever2 жыл бұрын
The intro of the book he reads is by Nic Pizzollato - the creator of True Detective & lead writer of Season 1.
@malcador2 жыл бұрын
He put it in the video.
@nathanjgtaylor19852 жыл бұрын
What a great first series that was
@Tronnyverse3 жыл бұрын
"I wear no mask" Is the King in Yellow? The Batman!? 😱
@spookshankaman10383 жыл бұрын
I have slightly exhaled trough my nose. 41/45
@Bleepbleepblorbus3 жыл бұрын
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@jingofbandits3 жыл бұрын
No one cared who I was until I told them I was the mask.
@annabell33853 жыл бұрын
The Joker.
@Tronnyverse3 жыл бұрын
@@annabell3385 But what about the Batman Who Laughs? 🤔
@rusty_at_life4 ай бұрын
I love how, for the first story, you made both crowns of the mad man reflect the crowns in the book.
@caimkindra7023 жыл бұрын
I am a author and this is very deep on how to control our words as we place them to paper so we help the reader feel free and can use there imaginations but we also have to be careful that they dont take it the wrong way. I love the video and i am a follower now 😁🤟