This Terminator Movie DARED To Be Different....Until THAT Ending!!

[@RedRam_Menhtrol]

Salvation honestly had so much potential.

[@marcussinclaire4890]

I was really looking forward to a trilogy of the future war, and I thought Salvation was really good!!

[@RedRam_Menhtrol]

@@marcussinclaire4890 Same. 🙂

[@Andrewgaming-jm8mn]

Salivation was a great movie. I feel like most people who don't like it are just bandwagons.

[@dimitrilitovsk2372]

I think some of it was boring, but the parts that were good was so good!!!!

[@callmev3531]

At going further with its continuity up to when John reluctantly sends Kyle back and later is killed by the T-800 from Terminator 3 before Catherine reprograms it (really leaning into the tragedy and drama of John and Kyle's relationship and John's knowledge that he is going to die and considering ways to avoid it, but ultimately choosing to meet his "fate" on his own terms), creatively speaking, would have allowed the series to end naturally instead of being artificially extended beyond its life span with diminishing profits and audience appeal.

[@ShadowVisord]

Terminator Salvations I actually liked and wished they continued

[@mortem-tyrannis]

Me too

[@mr.joshua204]

It was good. In the comic, Marcus comes back to life

[@azrael923]

Yeah that was one of the 3 best terminator movies

[@JeffWhite-z7y]

Think ended pretty good, mistake was, killing Marcus, should paved way for trilogy, even with ending have , my question lol, what if they do completely win, how do they send Reese back??

[@wisdomriver3476]

@@mr.joshua204same idk what happened exactly, people got scared cuz it was too original 😊

[@TrueBlueMajikDewd]

No. I always hated the John Connor dies angle. I'm glad they changed Salvations ending. Too bad it didn't matter because we got Genisys and Dark Fate anyways.

[@cameronbaker97]

Yeah, for some reason, everyone wants to kill John Connor off.

[@callmev3531]

Had they stayed the course with Salvation and had it be a full circle ending with John being killed by the T-800 from Terminator 3 (perhaps with John being tempted to avoid this fate but choosing it anyway to ensure events stayed intact), it could have worked, ended this franchise in a full circle moment on the sacrifices John made to preserve humanity. But instead, they basically turned it from a time loop story to a multiverse one with Genysis and Dark Fate's attempts to simultaneously pander to nostalgia and failure to truly innovate on the franchise's formula in a way that served its narrative organically.

[@shadvan9494]

Terminator Dark Fate was basically basically James Cameron saying, let remake a terminator 3, but put a chick in it and make her gay.

[@LukeJohnson-tw5bo]

You forgot lame

[@JamesJames-ot5ez]

T3 had a chick Terminator thou 😂

[@bumfist88]

@@JamesJames-ot5ez lol

[@9ito1]

@@JamesJames-ot5ezYeah but she wasn’t lame and gay

[@NeptuneNoire]

@@JamesJames-ot5ezthe TX felt like a downgrade compared to the T1000 but she was still cool tho 😂

[@dcamaraman939]

If you watch T1 , T SALVATION, and finally, T2 JUDGMENT DAY. You get a satisfying ending

[@futureDreamer4]

Agreed

[@Ultriac301]

You can't have Salvation without T3 since they belong in the same continuity/timeline.

[@ElZopi]

​@@Ultriac301 they never really mentioned T3, though, so you can ignore it entirely

[@JimBrodie]

Salvation is a personal favourite as it's the only one set completely in one possible future.

[@TheMrEvs]

bro congrats on all the subs recently, you deserve it - never change bro

[@Halfrican-Jones]

Thank you for dedicating a new video specifically for The Sarah Connor Chronicles. God I miss that show.

[@Demigod_3scrub]

In Salvation we got to see how Durable a T - 800 really is.. It was saturated in molten steel , and then frozen and it did not stop. A T-1000 would've been done..

[@NukeJake]

Salvation probably would've done better as a limited TV series keeping all the actors from the movie and expanding the stories.

[@travit666]

You should do a Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles video as soon as possible that show is amazing and it ended far too soon because of a stupid writer strike

[@borislugosi54]

There's a moment in T3 where Arnold and Kristanna Loken are fighting through the washrooms and in the middle of the fight, there is a quick moment where the TX turns to check how she looks in the mirror. It's a subtle nod showing a bit of her feminine attributes that i always thought was funny and clever. Saw Salvation in the theater and overall enjoyed it. It looked great and had some very cool action set pieces. I never understood the negativity around it even if the story was uneven.

[@ATR000]

I know, right? T3 has a special place in my cold black heart. Same with Salvation, I remember watching that movie in theaters during "family day" weekend after basic training. I knew nothing about it, and we(my battle buddies and i) decided to watch it. Good times

[@ziggygunz2447]

Yeah terminator 3 I initially wrote off as a boring rehash of terminator 2 but over time it grew on me and I ended up liking it.

[@Privacy_in_public]

I was hoping for a movie where they fight the war . Then send Reese back at the end of the movie. Something like that.

[@Drag7on]

I was thinking of Marcus's heart when giving to John. It had nano tech in it and convert John. I think your story is better. We had a perfect Flo and throw it away in Dark Fate. She could've been in Terminator vs Robocop. That movie would be insane, were Robocop works for Skynet.

[@nawles1]

Zaffy, amazing videos. I really love your honest style. Bro, you gotta do District 9 !!

[@Cinemavigilante]

Made a vid on that

[@nawles1]

@Cinemavigilante I'll check it out. Keep going man! we're loving your work here in the UK

[@waynestanley498]

I was satisfied with the Salvation adaptions story ending by Dark Horse Comic, Terminator: Salvation - The Final Battle. They complete the story line, some cool twists and a very satisfying ending.

[@Jordan-rk1lb]

The Terminator Salvation trailer went hard af with Nine Inch Nails blasting in the background. So good!

[@staple_boi]

I loved salvation growing up cuz I played the videogame and to me it felt like a grounded, gritty, and depressing apocalypse. John felt like a light in the dark.

[@BrutalCarnage]

Due to the time paradox there is no original timeline in my opinion. Otherwise it would mean John Connor's dad was just some normal dude and for some reason John Connor was motivated to become the leader of the resistance. The true timeline now is the timeline where John Connor's dad is someone from the future, having motivation to save the world and destroy Skynet. Because of this skynet actually needs John alive to exist to begin with. The future tech was reverse engineered in the past, also skynet only became self-aware in terminator 3 due to the future terminator hacking the system, it never became self-aware on its own. This could explain why the terminators are always throwing John Connor around and acting like they want him dead when in reality is all going according to plan... Imagine if we eventually find out a twist or something like the terminatos being sent to kill John was actually John himself to begin with. He knows that is impossible to prevent skynet, it's only possible to destroy it in the future, since trying to destroy it actually causes it to become something else... Because of this, he must ensure skynet gets created so he's able to destroy it and can identify it being the enemy... As trying to change the past might make it turn into an even formidable enemy in the future.

[@reginalferguson3664]

Very interstellar

[@callmev3531]

@@reginalferguson3664, Both Interstellar and Tenet. Both those movies had the blueprint of making a conclusion for Terminator that turns the franchise into a closed loop of events that create each other.....until Terminator Genysis and Dark Fate disrupted this looped story structure and made the continuity of Terminator a multiverse instead, Whereas before the loop needed to be maintained because versions of these specific events were what led to Skynet's destruction in the future and deviation could mean it's victory, now any number of disruptions can happen to make all new events take their place. Basically, Terminator Salvation's continuity should have been the one to end the series on.

[@reginalferguson3664]

@callmev3531 that's what it should have been. Humanity on the cusp of winning only to be ultimately defeated by Skynet and altered events caused it to win the future instead of losing but then either T-800 or Reece should be shown trying to get the Time Conveyor back Online to undo what skynet did like BTTF(1954 DeLorean) and set the timelines right to reconverge into the mainstream B4 T2 to show that yes No Fa8e is true. Judgement Day still occurs but adjusted due to T2 ending therefore setting up new possibilities (Though I still discount T3/TX issue) but doc Helena twisting Marcus to her bidding like Palpatine to anakin....perfect untill he see the truth that he was used and helps humanity take back its future by being the 1st Human-Terminator hybrid to fight for us....which gives Connor and others the idea to capture T-800 to become a protector. Fight fire w fire

[@travit666]

1:55 I think they came pretty close in Terminator the saracana Chronicles with the t 1001 I believe it was who was actually good I believe and had almost like sentence of her own like her own conscious she was able to form shields out of herself which protected people behind her and all this other cool stuff

[@lachancla3723]

I really like your take on a different Salvation ending. I would have liked Marcus to have this undevoted pledge to do anything for the chick who helped him at the beginning, because she basically gave him a new life, so now he feels indebted to her and tells her something like "I will always owe you after this/whatever you need me for, I am here" or something like that. And then the movie starts to build the trust with John and Marcus and when the chick comes back, instead, of her convincing him that John = evil and Skynet = good, Marcus/John's newfound trust is challenged because Marcus is torn between the two people who gave him a second chance at life and whom he himself believes owes both of them. Anyways, looking forward to your Sarah Connor Chronicles video, it better be like 2 hour + ranting of how it deserved a S3.

[@Vrir16]

I think this movie really focused on the concept of free will and destiny. Might be an overused theme, but following Marcus and Johns journeys separately until they meet and Marcus' origins are revealed show two men honestly just trying to survive. And the third act focuses on their individual choices to disobey orders and do what they believe to be the right decision. I think it also showcases that AI and human consciousness are different intelligences, because even with the chip, Marcus was able to overwrite his programming to save John.

[@callmev3531]

Which is why this story works well as is and why Marcus was a good inclusion to the series despite being the most removed from the other characters besides the fact that he's the first actual cyborg in the franchise (Terminators are really just androids coated in artificial tissues). Had this continuity been followed and this theme of choice been followed, this franchise could have ended more gracefully, like exploring the tragedy of John's relationship with Kyle or his own eventual death when facing the T-800 from Terminator 3 despite having not just a wife that will lose her husband, but children to care for that will lose their father. Just like Salvation showed how John inspired and rallied humanity while other movies only talked about it, sequels could have showed these events we the audience know have to happen in order for the rest of the series to not be changed in unpredictable ways, show the temptation to change them, for John to struggle with sending Kyle despite having befriended him, for Catherine to have to resist smashing the T-800 that kills John to bits for killing him, knowing she has to reprogram and send it back to protect herself and John in the past. It all could have made for some very interesting drama involving the difference between option and choice, that people may not have infinite opportunities, but still have the choices to take what chances they can in their limited circumstances.

[@shanepye7078]

You’re on to something with the twists. Would be better than what we got.

[@Törkischer_törke]

Love your vids man

[@jermaine8573]

Between Salvation , Genesis and Dark Fate alone , i can easily say Salvation probably had the most potential going for it

[@DidierWierdsma6335]

Terminator Salvation is the only worthy true sequel to the Terminator franchise in my honest opinion it was new all the other so-called sequels where just the same unfortunately. Other than that a great video keep up the great work and Happy New Year🎉🎉🎉 to you and your family let's hope that 2025 will be a great and awesome year?😊 And greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱

[@The_Furry_One-r7o]

6:06 lmao, you sound like you need to change your pants after seeing her

[@TheMichaellathrop]

Honestly what I would have loved to see from 3(which is where the Sarah Conner cornices looked like it was going) was the idea that John and crew were going to be the terrorists that would try to shut Skynet down and send it on it's rampage. Other than that I don't need any plot twists, you have a closed time paradox at that point, just give me a couple of badass action movies that look like the future scenes from T1 and T2, make them scary give good action and make them NOT directly about John so that the protagonists of each film can be imperiled... or have John send back the terminator to save himself early in the last film because we know he dies before sending back the Terminator to the time frame of T3, then kill him off at some point and let his wife send back the other terminator before the climax of the film so she could die.

[@markmorris6721]

Great video is always. In my honest opinion, this is one of the best terminators since it’s the only one that talks about the subplot of John Connor winning the war, which is shown in T3. This is Sarah, Connor Chronicles, which is an amazing show. From what I’ve read the original plot for the movie was switching bale with Courtny. Bale wanted to be the star so they re-wrote him to be John and not the terminator, which is why Courtny is in the majority of the movie since that was supposed to be for their main star bale. Also, the end was supposed to be from what I’ve read Courtny does take the face of John to continue the resistance and win . But he killed everybody in the room that saw him do this, including Jon’s wife and his number two and three. This is what leads John Connor to win the war sense that hybrid terminator has all the schematics and plans for Skynet .

[@BasedFactChecker]

The guy they got to be connor kept making me think of Chief Miles O'Brian from DS9. He looks like a very young Ensign O'Brian.

[@SixO1300]

Let’s go Zaff another great take 🙏🏾🔥

[@travit666]

4:21 pretty sure I sailed the high seas to watch that one

[@SIPEROTH]

I don't even bother doing that with this "modern audience" movies. Not even pirataing them is worth it.

[@travit666]

@SIPEROTH I'm usually stoned when I watch movies so I'm not paying attention to a lot of the things they're trying to push in these modern movies I just kind of shut my brain off The only time I noticed this stuff in any modern movie like that is when it's super overt Even in TV shows like the Supergirl TV show around season 3 or 4 they were pushing heavily refugee storyline about illegal aliens when there was a big thing with refugees coming into the US and a lot of illegal immigrants coming in during and just prior to the airing of the season which is exactly why they made that their storyline and it literally checked me out of the entire series I stopped watching and only started watching maybe the second half of the last season and that was it

[@iainengland8058]

This was awesome, I do love salvation. Was disappointed it never got a sequel

[@ThatDamnedGamer1]

The way that I see it Dark Fate and Genesis is bad because they ignored the entire premise of the first three films. They are all crafted to be a time paradox, the Terminators only exist because they went back in time to kill John and failed. The machine shop where the first Terminator died was Cyberdine Systems, so their going back in time is what gave reason for Kyle to go back. I think Salvation needed to play more into the events of the three movies. John and Kyle are brothers in arms from the beginning of the movie, while showing that John is purposefully setting up missions where he gets to know his dad as much as he can. While keeping the overall plot of Salvation, where they get led into the machine shop completing the mission that Kyle talks about in the first movie before sending him back in time to save Johns mother. Keeping in mind that the movies and the TV series describe that John and Kyle tore crap up together. The second movie would need to get into how to reprogram one of the Terminators to send it back to save himself from the T-1000, and the last film is where John is killed and the last Terminator is sent back by Johns kids. All while having a secondary plot that leads them in those directions.

[@UltraViolet-FM]

You _said it!_ You said my biggest gripe about Salvation! Marcus Wright _literally, fucking stole this movie!_ I wanted John Connor vs The Machines... Marcus turned John Connor into a _supporting character._

[@VKEvilution]

I'm patiently waiting for the day when Hollywood wises up to the idea that writing a 'trilogy' without immediately committing to shoot three movies guarantees the trilogy never makes it to the second movie.

[@BrutalCarnage]

Due to the time paradox there is no original timeline in my opinion. Otherwise it would mean John Connor's dad was just some normal dude and for some reason John Connor was motivated to become the leader of the resistance. The true timeline now is the timeline where John Connor's dad is someone from the future, having motivation to save the world and destroy Skynet. Because of this, Skynet actually needs John alive to exist to begin with. The future tech was reverse engineered in the past within this new original timeline, also Skynet only became self-aware in terminator 3 due to the future lady terminator hacking the system making it self aware, it never became self-aware on its own. This could explain why the Terminators are always throwing John Connor around and acting like they want him dead when in reality it's is all going according to plan, giving him the inherent motivation... Imagine if we eventually find out a twist or something, like the Terminators being sent to "kill" John was actually John himself to begin with. He knows that it is impossible to prevent Skynet, it's only possible to destroy it in the future, since trying to destroy it in the past actually causes it to become something else... Because of this, he must ensure Skynet gets created so he's able to destroy it and identify it being the enemy... As trying to change the past might make it turn into an even formidable enemy in the future like in Terminator Genisys/Dark Fate.

[@MaxZhr]

bro your plot is too perfect. u should direct the next movie

[@CagedSUPERMAN]

The next movie should be where the resistance pushes skynet into a corner, skynet fights back and gains the upper hand. But while the resistance is pushing they come across older Schwarzenegger he’s (human), he’s being kept alive for fresh dna. Conner rescues him. He learned some of skynets moves while being captive. Then in the final defeat of skynet Arnold and Conner stand side by side.

[@Nick-jj2lt]

The terminator story ended for me when the credits of terminator 3 started to roll. The rest are nothing to me. The only thing cannon in the other movies are the beautiful women they cast. You're hilarious, by the way. I love your vids and opinions. Your honesty and humor are refreshing

[@blabbysatsuma]

Another idea to throw out out there. John connor dies destroying the facility but John needs to lead the rebels to victory. So Marcus takes on John's identity and appearance to lead the rebellion.

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

Liking the new background.

[@jakesmith6011]

Maybe a Kyle Reece trilogy about him growing up after judgement day and getting involved with the resistance, meeting John Connor?

[@DefaultProphet]

Extremely funny calling time travel shenanigans retcons 😂

[@Wintersoldier73]

To me, the Terminator Franchise is T2, T1 & The Sarah Connor Chronicles. That show deserved better than being on Fox, where Sci-Fi shows mostly went to die.

[@jasonmalerich6405]

I personally liked Terminator Genisys. The reason is it follows the dragon ball z time travel rules. When any version of future trunks went back in time it created another timeline. That is what Terminator Genisys is doing. It showing the consequence of time travel by creating new timelines When someone or something goes back in time in the terminator films. If you pay attention to the movie it explains that the original skynet is observing the events of each timeline the successes and failure of each time line from the timeline terminator 1 is in to the last terminator movie.

[@Adarkane325xi]

“Ohhh good for you!” The Sarah Connor Chronicles is good. Unfortunately Cameron’s role is really diminished as the show goes along.

[@MrSkiPR]

That trailer was so fire I had to pause, go watch it, and continue the video.

[@alanhembra2565]

The Sara Conner Chronicles is pretty good. I wish it had gotten another two seasons.

[@jacobeakright7834]

You don’t seem to be happy unless you have something to gripe about

[@amonke4u]

I would have done it a bit different. Helena character isn't some random doctor, but Marcus sister. Marcus was put on deathrow for killing a few people ( robbery, make it a dispeicable act). And Helena who is sick with cancer come to try to " save " her brother. When she is found "alive" in skynet , they were experimenting on making other Marcus like terminators. She convince Marcus that they aren't killing people but " upgrading them" , no more wars, killing, sickness, sadness. People will have their human minds and organs just now a body that won't age. The next evolution in humanity. And how skynet programming changed after Judgment day. It realize it want to integrate the willing. This convinces Marcus and John and him fight. Marcus loses. And John and Marcus are laying on medical table. John is get a robotic prosthetic arm/ leg , heart and eyes ( he was badly injured) making him more android like. And Marcus skin is melted off by acid . He is dipped in a solution that eats the rest of his skin away exposing the metal body and his organs. ( Like how robocop does it). His body is then dipped into a liquid metal. His sister talks how they are trying develop liquid metal skin for the T-800 but the ( input something smart). And Marcus get the liquid metal skin and he starts to change faces, landing on John . Film ends

[@JeffWhite-z7y]

The woman, who talked Marcus into being an hybrid, she wasn't skynet, skynet used her because Marcus knew her, snd said giving a face he knows, but was just a holo image, wasn't really dr, i

[@PieterBooysen-l7k]

I always watch Salvation as T4 in my Terminator watch. Salvation has a lot of great moments. Christian Bale is great as an Older John Connor. Loved seeing Sam Fisher aswell in the movie.

[@mcgruff424]

Is that a new background in this video? Or am I just not observant 😂

[@dieselelkins]

Salvation Reece should’ve simply been a soldier who stands by Connor as all around Conner lose faith in him. Reece then gets repaid by being his most trusted confident. With the caveat that Connor will always keep some secrets due to his mums training and previous experiences

[@silencedmaxim5889]

I think Genesys is a decent final movie. The retcon makes sense if you understand time only flows in one direction, and that is forward.

[@child7328]

I recommend reading "Terminator Salvation: The Final Battle" comic. That comic has waaaaaaay better ideas for the franchise. Also like others have recommended, you should watch Terminator Zero, its the best show since Sarah Connor Chronicles.

[@timursafin8521]

4 sec into the vid I see your face in the mask and bro I'm hooked again🙂Let's goooooo!

[@ScottyIsHim]

For every "come with me if you want to live", I'm taking two shots till I forget the movies after the first two don't exist.

[@elieabrakenflower6988]

I like Salvation over all, it was fun. Anyways you should play the video game Terminator Resistance. Very good and made by people who LOVE the lore.

[@marcusolvera6370]

Hear me out , what if John Conner was forced to become hybrid due to hi operation or a terminator to continue living. Thus causing John to also grow as a person and realize that technology isn’t all bad. This is what I thought of when I first watched the movie back when it came out.

[@JeffWhite-z7y]

My problem was Reese was moment he got captured, they rip his head off

[@mr.voidout4739]

It's an ok movie, fresh perspective. Maybe I wouldn't like it as much if I didn't get to go to the premiere (friend was a WB intern.)

[@internetuser1324]

Bro we share the same brain. I am going to start a crowdfunding campaign to get you as a major consultant for every good Hollywood movie

[@RibbonPL]

I love Zaffy's imagination. :] 👍

[@adventurekitty101]

Can we at-least agree that Gabriel Luna was the best part of Terminator Dark Fate, even with the crap he was given? Cause despite the Rev-9 being a lesser T-1000/TX, he was still the best part of the movie for me, and the man is a talented actor, and I wish he was in a better movie.

[@simonfarre4907]

Terminator Salvation comes in at number 3. Easy. I know its doped up because of Bale as an actor but still. But your critiques about the movie are certainly valid!

[@nawles1]

There would have been two john Connors, basically explaining the trick in 'The Prestige' Can you get reservations at Dorcia?

[@TheMichaelStott]

A much as Terminator Salvation had good intentions, I still believe they should have decided to use the alternate ending of T2 where the future is fine, john is a Senator and Sarah is sitting finishing her memoirs while tying her granddaughter's shoe in the park. While Arnold and Stallone had a friendly movie rivalry going on in the 80s and 90s to see how many action movies they could make can be seen as one of the reasons why we got so many generic Rambo and Terminator movie storylines. 2008 Rambo closed off brilliantly, but the Terminator movies literally lost the plot.

[@Bloodlit]

I’m not gonna lie I love 1 and two for sure. But I have special spot in my heart for Salvation… I love that movie. Marcus Write is a cool character in my opinion, I like Sam Worthington and the 50/50 cyberhuman is a great concept.

[@1991KingLeo]

At least the movie before Dark Fate tried to do something interesting with Turning Connor into a terminator. Like yeah it might be predictable but at least the still treat him with some respect.

[@travit666]

Ayeee love love me some Terminator

[@cornealiusg]

I agree with you 100%

[@kylemcw8301]

Lena Headey is bloody good at what she does! In GOT’s, Her role as Cersei was spot on! She really makes you despise her! (Helen bonham carter is another who makes a brilliant villain!) That too me, is what defines acting ability! She’s quality! I’ve not seen the Sarah Connor Chronicles yet. So can’t say. But, I like the idea of Lena playing the Protagonist for a change! 👌🏻 [fun fact] Lena also has a huge Naughty tattoo IRL!) 😬😅

[@kylesawkon4074]

The problem is they try to keep making a new terminator model when we just want the original. Salvation’s lamest aspect is the hybrid terminator, john conner should be the “protector” for Kyle reese in the future war setting not some hybrid terminator that’s lame af

[@TheCrusadersNet101]

Even though their hasn’t been a trilogy with John Conner. Theirs a comic series Terminator salvation the final battle was a continuation and wrapped up of Terminator Salvation.

[@chichiboypumpi]

I love Terminator Salvation as much as much as the Tristar Godzilla. But it could've been better, still worth watching than most of today's...

[@ziggygunz2447]

Yeah essentially since Terminator 3 did well enough and 4 didn't do so well (because they shot themselves in the foot by giving away the twist) so they learned the wrong lesson that original story ideas flop and that a rehash of the first two movies does best so ever since they've just been giving us the same story over and over again with time travel. Ugh Hollywood has become so stoopid thanks to producers and film executives adding their idiotic input.

[@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat]

The first two-thirds of Terminator Salvation was legitimately great, and then it went full downs and flopped the landing.

[@Warsie-Fan]

"Ooooooh good for yooou!" 😂🤣😂🤣

[@LOBOratorium]

You are wrong! Terminator: Genisys was the best Terminator film since T:2 and I doubt they will ever make something like this again, especially that Arnold is aging.

[@wiinterflowers4277]

You cannot be serious!

[@LOBOratorium]

@@wiinterflowers4277 I am.

[@WorthlessDeadEnd]

*_Terminator: Resistance_* was a good game with a good storyline.

[@mr.joshua204]

The game gave me anxiety like a motherfker

[@Gengh13]

The new aspect ratio is pretty good for phones.

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

Guessing Sam Worthington was a #HeToo case.

[@kamantariq2513]

If its a trilogy have the T1 turn evil be at the 3rd movie We have grown to love this human-made machine for 2 movies. T1 is not controlled by Skynet, his humanity is strong. But skynet was spying on the humans the whole time thru T1. Learning for two movies. Learning about John and time travel. Now the time loop is complete. Skynet learns of timetravel via John himself Mabye add false sight mode, where skynet could trick T1 into doing something. Ex,(he thinks he is fixing a truck but is building a bomb) He thinks he is saving a bleeding sholder, but is killing him. Skynet tricking people in fighting each other. Into destroying each other.

[@zay1521]

i think john connor who’s half robot is a great plot twist n should have led to a sequel

[@mintymintpierre7887]

Zaffy you could be a director

[@bobjohn8581]

Seriously we need the plot to be advanced not the same repeats of all the films before.

[@Hicks-g1m]

I think the Terminator franchise still has life but it needs to be in the hands of a horror director who understands and has studied the first 2 Terminator movies like Fede Alvarez did with Alien Romulus. Yeah Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles is much closer the the first 2 Terminator films than any of the movies sequels were too bad it got canceled after only 2 seasons

[@HeartburnMan]

Skynet has come back in time to fuck with this franchise

[@anthonyslaughter1728]

I think your idea would have worked. I always wanted to take a different stab at the series. From the jump, Skynet was the bad guy but according to who? The survivors and reprogrammed machines... I always wanted them to show it from Skynet's perspective. What if it was "us" that actually caused the bombs to fall and for the machines to round up the folks. What if Skynet was blamed for it but it was Skynet that was trying to end the cycle by ending John. I always got that feeling from watching the series and even the end of Genisys. The AI we all thought was Skynet was not actually Skynet. That would have been the twist.

[@kingdavid1000]

Salvation was by far my favorite terminator movie. I love the future war and all the terminators. I thought the plot was good too.

[@capitalregimetv]

I only say this... STICK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL AND WHAT THE FANS YEARN FOR which is Future War. Now based on what we know, somehow, energy-based weaponry comes into the mix. When Marcus Wright deactivates the turrets, he subsequently finds and downloads Skynets plan to develop those energy-based weapons. At the end of the movie before the transplant, Marcus informs them how Skynet plans to escalate the war. Upon the end of the transplant, John now has the information needed to oppose and survive Skynet. This realization sparks an arms race between humans and Skynet that leads us to a sequel or a franchise. What coulda been.

[@november_victor9693]

Yeah Dark fate killed the Terminator franchise for me. I actually liked salvation. Kinda wish the made the other 2 movies.

[@thesilentscreamer1595]

This is my personal opinion but Terminator Salvation is my favorite movie in the franchise because it ACTUALLY TRIED to do something different, compared to the rest after T2. As flawed as it was, I enjoyed Sam Worthington's Marcus role in the movie and his journey to discover himself, as well as his interactions with Bale's John Connor. That being said, the movie could use some changes to make the story a little bit better. Despite its flaws, Terminator 3 is still enjoyable as a popcorn flick and I enjoyed the fight between the two Terminators the most. The ONLY THING I enjoyed about Genesys is the opening sequence featuring Future War. The rest is... well, we all know how THAT turned out. I thought Genesys was the worst Terminator movie.... UNTIL Dark Fate came out.

[@MauricePKerry]

Terminator salvation was good! TSCC was better lol😂

[@MauricePKerry]

I literally just pulled it up on HBO MAX right now. Shouts out to Richard T. Jones the first and ONLY black terminator. (TSCC) I'd love take over the Terminator franchise the way Michael B. Jordan took over Rocky for Sly. I'd want to keep it mostly in the future until absolutely necessary...

[@MrMpm3001]

I believe the best way to reboot the series is to go back to the core. The first reboot should be a sci-if horror/slasher. Maybe utilize some of the shape shifting elements to exacerbate the horror aspect. Reboot sequel should follow suit as T2 and go more action and close the reboot saga. Leave it as two part because Hollywood has never stuck big with the 3rd installment for the most part. Practical effects are a must, minimal CGI and absolutely nothing less than an R rating.

[@jerry12314]

Terminator Salvation had a good first half and was really engrossing. The submarine resistance base, brilliant, Resistance using shortwave radio brilliant its Marcus Wright character, the third and fourth act of the movie that was ehhh...

[@PutzShaka]

0:21 Why do they DO that though??💔

[@callmev3531]

Because corporations tend work in extremes. Either they stick with what they see works and thinks gets the money until its runs dry or they try to distance themselves from what they see as not getting them money while completely oblivious to the parts that do. Either way's an overcorrection, no compromises, no nuance. It's what you get when you mix greed and laziness together.

[@wolfscythespk]

Terminator dark fate is the unseen timeline you know, cause you don’t end up seeing it again😅