This Terrible Asymmetrical Plane Design Exists... But Is It Secretly Genius?

[@valerianwohlleben9916]

You have a mistake. In the picture you can see that the middle part of the plane isn't at the center of the wing. The left part of the wing is actually longer than the right one...

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

The engine and cockpit are off center to balance the mass at the core of the aircraft. As a concept it might have been balanced. As a practical aircraft I expect the drag to spoil the actual performance.

[@MaxMen11]

Yea

[@maxwelllutomski7855]

@@glenmcgillivray4707 regardless, one wing is still longer than the other

[@The_GG_Janitor]

I believe that he could've fixed the original design with weight only. One other mistake in the final version is there was a high center of thrust in the rear, which, with there being no static aerodynamics in the rear, may have been what was causing the inconsistant pitch down.

[@minecraft_rs3548]

Your right

[@dotspot5990]

Scrapman, you should've looked with more attention to it, the wing with the propeller is bigger, for a better centre of mass.

[@somedudewhoexists]

We need to make sure he sees this

[@samurban6058]

Yeah, back in ye olden days, the props weighed a crap ton.

[@seanhoyle3760]

Please see this !!! I'm pulling my hair out

[@scaredlittleboy7086]

But there's no bigger propeller in this game...

[@the_andrewgrech]

@@samurban6058 Not to mention the engine to power the propeller; that would have been the heaviest part of the plane, right there on the front-left side.

[@warfiend1433]

"Luchtvaart in beeld" was a monthly Dutch magazine about aviation it roughly translates too "Aviation in pictures". It was released during the second world war and their team consisted mostly of Germans and the prime subject of the magazine was German planes. The text on the picture state that the plane designs originates from an English patent, so this one isn't German obviously. You could buy the 1943 issues of said magazine online (quite pricey) but I'd doubt you find anything more about said plane in there tbh. Your best bet would be to go too England and dig through old paper patents.

[@frogsecretaryofswamp452]

Huh

[@Castigar48]

Aviation in pictures... they nailed the name

[@Tax3vader]

Gekoloniseerd 🇳🇱

[@yyglsiirrequiredtohavealas7254]

Somebody get Tom Scott on this!

[@skillzmcgee8013]

He would need to team up with CGP Grey or smthin

[@DeadPlayer13579]

I love it that scrapman goes into a full detective mode and finds legit facts about ancient vehicles

[@jikill7586]

these types of videos make him look like einstein

[@brashirott3813]

11:05 I’m pretty sure that in the image the side of the main wing with the propeller is more bulky than the other side

[@SpaceSha_rk]

Scrapman, I believe creating a He-162 aka The Salamander would be a great video idea, anyways great content as always!

[@tomahoratiu-andreas442]

I love the fact that you actually show how you found the subject of the video and the research process. It allows the viewer to learn about what the video is focused on without going into too much boring detail.

[@brashirott3813]

4:07 I’m pretty sure that the way it would work or being intended to work is due to how slim body of it is that would snap leading to the cockpit being attached to the tail wing which would end up causing it to change from more event aircraft to a spinning glider where the wing on one side would add both rotation and lift whilst the cockpit would add weight pulling it down quicker but due to the lift it would stay up resulting in a slow descent that isn’t too slow so you would be less likely to be shot by incoming enemy fire

[@EhmedCousCous]

Or the tail would point straight up and it would fall really quick

[@Plasmapigeon]

@@EhmedCousCous That's a good point, If it is possible to achieve a slowed descent I think the intention is for it to be like a maple tree seed, those "helicopter" seeds that spin around with the papery wing. but metal would be too dense/heavy compared to that of the seed.

[@Mike-ukr]

It would've been more interesting to see the assymetric thrust balanced out by a rudder permanently at an angle

[@prestonmiles8721]

That's what I thought the solution should be

[@CATel_]

(cockpit)

[@The_GG_Janitor]

Now hear me out- I don't believe that would work. At low speeds the rudder would have less effect, and at high, vice versa, so if it wasn't able to be adjusted control would suffer greatly. I do think that a rudder with ~30° of control would work, but 30° is optimistic anyway. Edit: unless you were talking about a Horizontal rudder for pitch stabilization, Wich is considered a "trim" tool, and does exist... It would still need to be able to be adjusted though.

[@kazumsvirtuelleeinode4067]

or, if it is a ramming plane, maybe the prop-area is reinforced and therefore heavier? edit: looks like thats what he tried as well.

[@magica3526]

@@The_GG_Janitor this is more true in game than irl. irl you have a lot of airflow from the propeller passing over the rudder making it much more effective than you would expect

[@pure_sorcerer]

10:22 people who noticed that the left front wing of the plane is longer than the one on the front right are really pissed off by now, at least i am

[@Cryingformylife]

This! Its like he puts all this time into the research, he could at least build it the same -_-

[@vicinity1337]

It isn't

[@zainsalmon4694]

It's very missable, didn't notice till you said that

[@Somebody_o.n_earth]

​@@CryingformylifeBRO LOOK AT THE F****** IMAGE THE LEFT WING IT IS LONGER THAN THE RIGHT WING

[@looksgoodonpaper]

Love this series and the history intro, awesome!

[@Lillspratt]

Try to build a Draken (j35) it is the first dubbel delta wing design plane in the world, and it was first to be able to do the cobra manouver. It only has a wing and rudder, ni tail.

[@tamimmusa8361]

third

[@FlyingNoodle554]

@@tamimmusa8361 cool?

[@bobhopman4648]

Or a viggen

[@EhmedCousCous]

Yeah but they are very unstable and would need really complex logic

[@Lillspratt]

@@EhmedCousCous ye thats what makes it a challenge

[@Tauramehtar]

I love all your stuff Scrapman, but for me these historical recreations take the cake. Still waiting for you to try to make the Antikythera mechanism, if that's even possible. 😁

[@GreenTheem]

Perhaps the cockpit’s drawing implies an imbedded propellor beneath the pilot as its counterbalancing thrust point (referencing the series of detailings at the front of the teardrop), **as well as** a tail fin at the rear region of the teardrop shape (Potentially Implied by the medial line behind the center of the teardrop) Also x2: The front wing has much more surface area to the left of the central fuselage than to the right of it - this was likely for that balancing issue you experienced. You could simulate this by just using building blocks onto the front and left sides of the wing. This could also open opportunity for utilizing Trailmakers’ sloped blocks for shaping the wing more precisely, but also for that aerodynamic bonus, too!

[@IkeaShark3937]

I don’t think it would be a propeller below the cockpit, I think it signifies a wheel below the cockpit for landing

[@mr.benther]

Idea: Could you make a bomber plane that instead of dropping bombs drops parts of it self that are also loaded with bombs?

[@hitechhooligan]

that's a great idea, Scrapman should try it

[@akramcherief2404]

He did something wrong with with the wing he was on mirror mode so it's the same but actually the left wing is more out and he did that wrong so he needs to redo it like for him to see

[@nobody7442]

Also the left wing has more weight than the right one

[@failuretocomply3]

I think part of the issue of nosing down was partly because the cockpit was raised above the wings. Causing the thrust to be above that aswell

[@dukeofpotato3609]

as a student doing ancient history I am astonished by how many reliable sources you have

[@antoniolozic1517]

Finally ive been waiting for another trailmakers video!

[@dodeldidonoob9201]

if you look very closely you can see that the wing where the propeller hangs on is a longer than the wing where there is no propeller on resorting in more drag on the left wing so you don't need does propellers on dat cockpit if you have a langer left wing :)

[@tomothybahamothy]

You mean cackpit?

[@tylerlemler127]

I’ve seen this design of plane in another game I play. It glued surprisingly well. With very little roll, I thought no way it would fly, but hey it did

[@_.crzzyy._]

This is cool! i was very surprised to see the cockpit actually survive the crash. Cool build!

[@howardbeddingfieldii4810]

Glad you looked at it as a top down view. I was so confused thinking it was a side profile view. And had no idea how it could possibly fly.

[@tommYnat0r]

Hey Scrapman, I love your videos where you re-create machines and stuff. I know Scrap Mechanic and Trailamakers are your "main games" in this stuff but you ever thought in rebuilding stuff in Simple Planes or Main Assembly? I like the fact that you have limitations but if you want to be "more accurate" maybe the other two games are worth a try for those kind of videos? If not that's fine as well :) Thanks and keep it up :)

[@luckyoceandy2104]

scrapman please make a video where you bring all of the weird and whacky vehicles in to public lobbys

[@nobody7442]

Good idea

[@luckyoceandy2104]

well that was quick

[@kosmickitten_au4550]

So cool! I love the fact that you do so much research. It nice seeing history that way

[@vlads3283]

Mad Genius design. Could work with the right technology and a bit of lucky but it's simply too diffcult to use and get right for mass production

[@jikill7586]

this was the first ever video i've ever watched, and i've fallen in LOVE with your videos. i know this sounds weird, but i've had a dream where i was playing minecraft and found a shipwreck, and we were playing with each other. weird asf, but it was so trippy

[@maxwelllutomski7855]

I doubt that it'd make it better, but if you look at the drawing, the front wings are also asymmetrical

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

Making a Rammer Plane with a Cockpit at the rear seeking to survive the Pilot afterwards is a neat idea... could be fun seein ya, Yzuei, and any other interested person try out making such a Plane (Asymmetry not needed), and see who can make the best Plane that can take out a large WW2 German War Machine-like Super Blimp! :D

[@danser_theplayer01]

Imagine your plane is so bad that even in the internet era all people have is one basic image.

[@JNCressey]

5:30 A "plan view" is a real term. Simplified wikipedia says: "A plan view is an orthographic projection of a 3-dimensional object from the position of a horizontal plane through the object." And "planform" means an object's shape in plan view.

[@kopiito8810]

Thank you scrapguy

[@Karagianis]

Look up the German Blohm und Voss BV141, asymetrical planes have been built and have flown. It takes a lot of design work to balance the asymetrical mass and thrust so that it will fly in a stable manner, but it IS possible.

[@irondreadnought3559]

Did you know that during WW2 Germany built an entirely new plane, called the HE-111-Z, to carry a transport glider, if you want to know more, just look up it's name, it could be considered similar to the Bf 109Z "Zwilling"

[@thebluewolfreaper5173]

Thanks for showing me that you can find what your looking for with images that can be really useful.

[@JC-fx6nk]

I think it's so dumb that it could very well be just a genius idea

[@lejujogranie3643]

It's actually brilliant. 9:10 Imagine using this as a take off-method making it somehow controlable and reliable, to decrease the space needed for take offs.

[@DMZ_5]

It's basically a helicopter, the motion just comes from thrust in the wingtip rather then a center point. See the WW2 German Focke-Wulf Triebflügel for another application

[@lejujogranie3643]

@@DMZ_5Oh You're right

[@lejujogranie3643]

@@DMZ_5 But in flight it's just a normal plane tho.

[@samtaylor209]

Plz do more trailmakers it’s so good. Ur my fav utuber

[@FenixFoxxo]

So i did a bit of my own digging on this plane and it brought me to the place that never ceases to amaze me with its knowledge on weird subjects Reddit Redditers claim that this plane actually is likely to have emerged from Blohm and Voss, it apparently never was actually constructed due to the fact the pilot would experience G-forces greater then what was tolerable at the time. The closest plane that you can find that is a functional version would be the Blohm and Voss BV 141

[@bryanb4842]

Take a look at James Bruton’s channel he designed and omnidirectional walking machine. Think it would be cool to see this in scrapmechanic or trailmakers

[@benji6871]

you should try doing some of these projects in main assembly, since it is a lot more flexible

[@plaguetpk5403]

Although you countered those problems really well scrapman, I love your content can’t wait for your next video

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Mangelwurzel is a vegetable. The wartime article was most likely a spoof - like the shot down pilot who told the Germans he’d been flying a Huntley Palmer bomber with Peak Frean engines, or the various articles about ‘gremlins’.

[@Sabamonster]

First thing - The wing with the propeller was larger and tapered differently. Secondly, I feel like had they attempted this design they probably would have gone through a similar process to identify shortcomings and issues as they arose. It stands to reason that if you got it to fly in a limited physics game they could have done so in the real world. Considering it served it's primary function I'd call that a resounding success.

[@Jorge25red]

Had an idea for a trailmakers multiplayer challenge! Make cars with Diving Bells and do an Underwater Demolition Derby!

[@burningcaiman]

gah i forgot how much i loved the music when scrap edited his own stuff

[@jellynightthenight8796]

6 minutes, and this vid is CROWDED!

[@coolcrazyguyer]

Hi scrap man i have been watching your vids for 2 months and the one I loved the most was your evolution series can you make another evolution trailmakers vid

[@katestramenos929]

I saw the cockpit work correctly in an earlier test you did!! It happened in the background unintentionally lol I was like, oh hell yea, the cockpit works 🤣🤣

[@twisteddman]

the diagram seems like its actually just a simple representation of what other possible "asymmetry" can be on an airplane . it said its from a patent , so the patent is probably just using that to cover"asymmetry" possibilities and was never designed to be an actual airplane

[@asbjrnlomborg7830]

for this to have worked, the left wing would have been a lot bigger and a lot heavier, possibly having a fuel tank attached to the buttom of it as well. The cockpit also would have probably been very light for it to not weigh down the back of the airplane. I also think that the right side back wing should have been bigger to create more lift and therefore cancel out the asymmetrical weight.

[@josephwimerYoYoYo]

If it was truly described as a "rammer" then you have to assume the original designer was intending for part of the aircraft to be sacrificed in a maneuver. Maybe you can reimagine it in a post-ram state? Either way awesome video! Maybe you can build something that is flyable in two different states XD

[@GoshkaPolska]

It also seems like their could be a tail maby under the Tail wings raising them up? and the left wing is longer to acount for the ofset center of thrust

[@Pystro]

Let me translate the caption of that unexplained figure for you: "Fig. 6a b and c. English drafts and patent drawings for asymmetric airplanes from the years 1938 and 1942." Seems like if you wanted to find out what that figure 6c airplane is you might have a shot if you sifted though patents from those years in England. edit: Ah, I see you auto-translated that.

[@sebatim8435]

scrapman, this plane was made unsemetrical that the cokpit is as the same blocks away from the middle like the propeller so that the cokpit and the propeller cancel the weight out so its like a normal plane

[@louisdebut2629]

There's a bunch of videos like this one that would be very interesting to see with all the new parts! Also the forces would freak out so bad if you load this creation now... Take care of yourself scrapman

[@dangingerich2559]

Ever since I saw video of an F-15 flying and landing without a wing, I never say anything would absolutely not work.

[@LunaIsOnYoutube]

Making the wing bigger on the left, adding a tailfin and making the propeller slightly weaker on the replica wouldve worked, i think

[@creativecreeper6147]

Scrapman: We need a tailfin Bro, you should've added that ages ago! Sure it doesn't show in the picture but that doesn't mean it's not there

[@InfiniXCat]

I remember you once made an asymmetrical plane

[@AlexDeyo-y9e]

It looks like it would have been a early model for the Blohm & Voss Bv 141 aircraft but idk I don't really know a lot about planes and stuff, just cars.

[@Kraxel-North]

This is My favourite series on this channel

[@VL-Secondary]

That feeling when your plane starts its flight in a tailspin.

[@spooidygaming6969]

The plane : spin me right round scrapman right round

[@zachrodan7543]

my guess in regards to yaw controls, the cockpit is likely atop a vertical stabilizer, meaning there is a rudder under it

[@dryryeroll7823]

An asymmetrical that worked amazingly well is the BV-141. It was a German recon plane designed so the crew could look behind the plane. Apparently it flew very well.

[@technicbuilder6410]

3 months and 14 days of asking ScrapMan for building an ekranoplan.

[@JoJoBruno]

Did you notice that the main wing isn't even centered in the picture?

[@loganmunier9798]

Ok, this was awesome on it's own, but the fact that it actually does what it was intended to do is just divine.

[@zippythinginvention]

Right before you did the Google Image Search, I paused the video and got a screen cap and did a Google image search.

[@you4ic_180]

You know what I'm thinking... you need to turn the design, the plain takes off flat, but flies vertically? Maybe? Lol

[@Baldamaniac]

I have a weird feeling that the cockpit in the original design was also for yaw like it turned the shape of it seems like it would or could help turn

[@otasense5173]

you should do a mechs battle with your friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and we want more trailmakers

[@ZantZ]

Man the wing was shifted to the left and he made it symmetrical. We need another video

[@UnitSe7en]

I bet you don't realise that you need a bit more wing on the left than on the right. This is shown crudely in the diagram, but for someone not familiar with aerodynamic forces wouldn't be visible or even obvious as a requirement.

[@djtpj2008]

builds a suicide bomber with concerns for safety. also puts propellers spinning directly out where the driver will go flying through the window

[@NorthernChooChoo]

try looking in to the Heinkel He.P.1065 IIc asymmetric german bomber

[@JeanPGuy3000]

There is a clear reason there is little information about this design and someone was likely fired for it

[@blastallblaster32]

I killed 14 bugs that were on my bed during this video

[@MrAgnostizist]

good video so far. but i was wondering, couldnt you try building kinda stuff in ksp, too? its physics are far more realistic and it looks so much better

[@Dragon-jo9qy]

Love the content u should do a challenge about this!

[@Hlebuw3k]

Im loving these searches for the original design at the start! It reminds me of someone who searched for the origin of the meme "Tonk", and i would also like to see ScrapMan build it. You can find some pictures by searching "Tonk meme"

[@neptune2497]

idk if u still read the comments here but i would love to see the video with the airbone update 😊

[@kubaxwot4629]

I once again ask you to build Mil Mi-32 tri propeller helicopter

[@flattirefire]

its awesome how much effort scrapman puts into his videos for us

[@MogR91]

How amazing would it be to have the original designer see that video :D "wait... this was a joke/trap we made to foul the germans!" (laugh in english granpa voice) "this has never been intended to be flown, it was suppose to confuse the enemy and let them waste ressources on figuring it out XD"

[@giovanni6523]

can we get this man a History with Scrapman animation

[@schw4rztee502]

You should try making something like the Aircraft carrying submarines that Japan used in WWII.

[@rltt379]

I'd say this plane could've been a success if they just put the engine in the middle and used weghts to cancel out the opposing force as well as moved the big wing to the back and smaller to the front

[@crystalgodsey3224]

Sounds about right

[@foxracerdrew]

The fuselage is supposed to be off center too, so this build is still a failure.

[@talinpeacy7222]

It's hard to tell by the view angle, but I think the tail fin was meant to be on the rear of the cockpit. I also believe the body was thinner, the weight largely being in the engine and the cockpit being a mostly thin plated tear drop with somewhat aerofoil characteristics. It wouldn't help much with the drag distribution but it might make it workable without strapping props to the cockpit.

[@evanwaldner2226]

scrapman should try using simple planes for his builds with planes because you can modify it more easily

[@Skillerkrieger]

The front wing needs too be more left if you look on the sketching

[@Atris_Hayport]

This is just... Research in the modern age... the tutorial, I love it! cant wait to see the rest of the video!

[@cadetkohr5508]

I feel like the main reason it wasn't working is because you need yaw control. In smaller single-engine planes, you always need a little bit of yaw to keep it straight. With this, you would need a lot of yaw.

[@noelhutchins7366]

AS.31 looks like a pod racer; could you make a working pod-racer in game?

[@ulfnic]

When you first added weight to the front left wing tip the plane rotated left. With no weight the plane rotated right. Could that mean tuning that weight would make the plane work with no back propellers? Thanks as always ScrapMan, really appreciate the daily videos :)

[@carlycrawford2713]

Welcome to the world of military history document finding. Takes you longer to find the stuff than it takes to study it. And thats saying something when your into naval things lol

[@campbellhansen7533]

So you make a symmetrical plane, and gave it symmetrical thrust, while using a totally asymmetrical plane as a blueprint. You were doomed to fail as soon as you opened the game. I recommend shortening the right front wing, and thickening the left front, possibly shortening both a little bit, and giving it a bigger prop.