This TikTok Trend Is Destroying Dating

Today, we're reacting to one of the most ridiculous recent TikTok trends, the "ick" list.
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[@ar10nte]

"Where have all the good man gone?" "Being a good man is an ick"

[@p.a.w.sthetravelinggamer6750]

Bro

[@tonysjourney1161]

Dude for real🙄

[@Pikawarps]

100%

[@enzotriaocmaraja]

Facts

[@thegreenguy4666]

"And where are all the gods?"

[@monotonescreaming5350]

No one wants to put work into a relationship anymore. They want a perfect ideal person. The best advise I was ever given was find someone whose willing to grow with you.

[@ArchiduquesaMA]

Your partner isnt your doctor, go to therapy

[@monotonescreaming5350]

@@ArchiduquesaMA if you think a healthy relationship doesn't have work put into it your gonna have a rude awakening my friend. I'm not talking about codependency, I'm talking about knowing neither of you are perfect but that your trying your best and that is worth something.

[@littylit444]

​@@monotonescreaming5350Lmao, OR find someone who's got no trauma and who's got their shyt together 😂. "Grow with you". Foh 😂, that is the poorest excuse to stay with someone who is subpar to you.

[@Stratos1988]

@@littylit444Bruv, you're missing the point. Has it ever occured to you that both parties can be subpar ?

[@darlingdeb7010]

​@littylit444 that advice went completely over your head 😂😂

[@MistaMagic52]

It's never been easier to dehumanize and discard other human beings than with the concept of "the ick".

[@eliaquadarella2948]

It truly is a display of the good old "man made horrors".

[@jzen1455]

Being quick to “ick” makes you sick.

[@Foatizenknechtl]

i wouldnt say that. people have been called a witch and 'been hunted down and burned or worse.....there have been times where it was easier to dehumanize somebody. but yeah i get your point.

[@BreadGood_21]

As a man, all I want is a girl who is athletic (to match my lifestyle), not an asshole, attractive (at least to me), and someone who loves me And thanks to the ick list my goals aren’t accomplished yet 💀

[@Bababooi01]

This girl I was dating said I “gave her the ick” because I took care of her while she was drunk. She said she wanted me to be drunk and for her to take care of me. Crazy world

[@piotr004]

Do women even have a brain at this point? Honestly.

[@vroomkaboom108]

That's a greenlight for domestic abuse man, you should've went along with it...

[@Yourlocalanimenerrd]

Hope you ran away from her

[@misscleo_]

As a woman we don't claim her. You did a good job being a gentleman

[@trashpanda4]

what does that even mean? you don't claim anyonre. like, as a woman i don't claim you. ​@@misscleo_

[@firstlast9431]

"Men have unrealistic Standards!" Women: Don't Breathe

[@kevinle1083]

Combine dumb shit double standards + me, a guy does remotely anything a normal person would do, these women would do EVERYTHING to find some form of “turn-off.” Hell, I could eat food differently and somebody would say “eww that’s a ick.” Welp, hopefully I find a man to date, a normal person who isn’t gonked outta their heads.

[@imjustsaying5357]

😂

[@tearsong8744]

All I can say is I'm sorry on behalf of my gender. I promise we haven't all lost our damn minds.

[@305Independent]

Men's standards for women at this point are just "have vagina" and even THAT is being met with hostility!

[@RavenMobile]

Men: fit, feminine, friendly, fertile.

[@mareikevieth3491]

If a man posted a list of "icks" he would be immediately attacked and cancelled.

[@robertross45]

Seconded.

[@Benjamin-pb6jo]

It would also probably be like 7 things at most

[@darlingdeb7010]

Today a male would, but the way femals act today are essentially how males used to act 20-30 years ago lol.

[@Channel-Red]

There was a college guy, (can't remember the college) who made a "pokedex" of girls in a sorority of how they are so men could know who to avoid. They got so much hate. Do I condone his actions? No BUT of course if a man does it, it's terrible If a woman does it, it's queen

[@mstrzg]

lets start one, here's my ick. Their pinky toes don't grow nails... weird weird

[@morkoblooper7991]

We need to delete social media Honestly and just go outside

[@chibisteve]

lol true

[@KannaKandy]

Lmao true Everyone needs to go to a cabin in the woods without a phone or anything and just sit in the isolation, enjoying the peace and silence. Maybe even just sit for thirty minutes on a rock in the middle of a river.

[@morkoblooper7991]

@@KannaKandy soon I’m gonna start doing gold panning with my all my camping gear and stuff

[@KannaKandy]

@@morkoblooper7991 that sounds wonderful! Hope you strike gold! (Pun intended)

[@KannaKandy]

@@morkoblooper7991 excited for you!

[@vincentb2175]

It is impossible to live with someone and not be grossed out by something your spouse does. But we have this thing called communication in which we can compromise and make eachother both feel loved.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

Yes my guy, but one thing is being disgusted because your man picks his nose around you or does so with his belly button, the other is being disgustedby him *BREATHING*

[@Kipplz]

@@michelecastellotti9172there is no useful input here, that is base level etiquette, taught in pre-school/kindergarten.

[@jzen1455]

Social media and dating apps have introduced more options. So one can be quick to “next” you for the smallest “ick”.

[@Lemonyjean]

I think that the biggest difference is that you find their action gross, and with these "icks", they find the whole human gross

[@vincentb2175]

@@Lemonyjean well that is something I’ve not really familiar with, it does sound like it’s a demonic thing or a mental broke thing. Not fixable. Only Jesus can heal that kind of spiritual damage.

[@safromnc8616]

Honestly, why is any grown-up on Tik-tok. Eliminating Social media from your life would eliminate 99% of the icks.

[@sacredpaw]

Yes, 100%.

[@ElvishPresley79]

Kids shouldn’t even be on Tik-tok.

[@FabulosoSpray]

Change in parenting skills would help as well. The amount of parents that allow their kids to grow up into delinquents is absurd.

[@913_Niyala]

So far everyone I've met that isn't on TikTok are wonderfully humble human beings

[@declaracionespolemicas]

Imagine the amount of children right now growing up with their parents on Tik Tok. I can't even fathom my parents being on Tik Tok, it's wild to me.

[@gigachad6742]

If she uses the term « ick », that is a deal breaker and that’s enough. No need for a list to strike back.

[@DavidFrost9992]

Men's ick list: women who have an ick list.

[@sugarmiesje]

Adult women using that word to describe anything is embarrassing to all women.

[@THX5000]

It's always the high bodycount donuts with icks

[@1111Tactical]

Your username checks out

[@gigachad6742]

@@1111Tactical nope. Not playing with immature women.

[@MEZINGO]

Best Advice I've heard yet. "It is said that you should never go shopping when you are hungry/starving, you might pick out things you didn't even need." "Keep this in mind for when you want to go dating, don't go chasing relationships, you might pick someone you didn't even actually connect with"

[@someone_named_eva3363]

This is genius

[@porterschwartz4979]

Whenever I see these kinds of videos, I am constantly reminded of just how crucial the golden rule was that we learned all the way back in grade school. Yes, I'm referring to simply, treat others the way you want to be treated. It doesn't seem like it should be a very difficult concept, yet here we are.

[@josephgiulini9711]

We've forgotten or chose to ignore two simple things that our grandparents taught us: 1. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. 2. Mind your own business. We'd all be in a better place if you adhered to the rules above. Good comment on your part.

[@JasonNewsted420]

My new golden rule is "treat everybody how they deserve to be treated". Way too many people think your kindness is weakness

[@mpow3r972]

The last girl I dated (a psychologist no less) went on a multi-page texting rant…. Because I dared to call her “girl”. Also said during that rant that she’s obviously not my type because she ran background checks on my exes, and after them and I had broken up, 2 of the 4 got DUIs. 10 days later, she also got a DUI. Way to become a statistic, GIRL. Stuff like that is why I’m letting the right young woman come to me instead of trying to seek them out. I have neither the time nor the patience to do so. Thanks for highlighting this Brett. You’re a gem.

[@IngameAnimation]

When you want to win an argument so bad you go and get a DUI. XD

[@mpow3r972]

@@IngameAnimation Oh she definitely put the "psycho" in psychologist, alright...

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

So was the result of her DUI just her begging you to take her back?

[@sirclarkmarz]

Go to the Philippines or Thailand these are traditional beautiful women that will love you and respect you if you bring one back just keep her away from the wretched harpies that dwell here .

[@mpow3r972]

@@Antonio-ys5zd No the result was me and 6 of my friends all going and laugh-emoji reacting to the public Facebook post of her mugshot. I already had her blocked from any form of communication.😂She later posted underneath it, that the cops entrapped her… Because naturally she’s never wrong. It's literally everyone else ever that's the reason for her constantly striking out with men and having little to no friends.

[@AgentProRyan]

" why aren't men being athletic?" "Being athletic is an ick"

[@Crazy_Chriz]

“Being better than me is an ick”

[@jzen1455]

“I like a man with a nice physique!” “Why do you spend so much time in the gym!?!”

[@Danny_Deleto]

​@@jzen1455That one brings me back.

[@Yggdrasill8]

"I like a guy who has a lot of money 🤑" "Why do you spend so much time with work!?!

[@carlosnievas1220]

Why do you clean the house?

[@ExesyYT]

This is why I like Brett because she be standing up for us guys and trying to get through to women even if it doesn’t work she at least trying

[@YouD0ntSay]

I was that man at age 26 to 31, had given up entirely not only on dating, but also on socializing with women altogether, avoiding situations where I had to interact with one, and if I had to, keep it as short and impersonal as possible, in oder to leave the situation as early as possible without being impolite. These were the most peaceful 5 years of my life. It was also the time at which women pursued me the most. I don't know to this day why I stopped. I suppose I just found the right one.

[@subplzorideleteurchannel7193]

You really abandoned the incel/MGTOW life, and chose not to be happy? We could have risen up against feminism and its control on the government and society, but now we have one less man. What the fuck were you thinking? Join the revolution.

[@eliasty2792]

One of the ick's were showering barefoot like WHO showers with socks on or worse shoes, what are yall doing in the shower TAP DANCING?

[@Lordpickleboy]

😂 I'm so dead omg. Fugging happy feet in the shower

[@GenericProtagonist7]

You don't wear a full body, waterproof morph suit in the shower?

[@MyDataWasStolen]

Yeah i wear a skin tight ballerina dress with well broken in tap shoes

[@Knlght0fZero]

Found the sl*t that showers naked...

[@JakeTheStakeNowIn3D5024]

@@GenericProtagonist7 What's the point of showering if nothing is getting wet!?

[@swiftindigo2321]

Dating really has become near impossible. One of the biggest issues I've noticed is that ghosting people has become the norm. Rather than having one simple conversation with someone people would rather just cut people out of their lives with no explanation what so ever. A lot of people have no idea how to communicate any more.

[@Rotorhead1651]

No......they just don't want to. They're lazy and arrogant.

[@nogames8982]

The inability to communicate is really going to hurt our society in so many ways. I know somebody who owns a business and the young people coming in now can't even do an interview because they literally can't talk face-to-face. And they do abbreviations on their résumé as if they are texting. This is the future of our country. Very scary. I actually feel sorry for the levelheaded decent young people nowadays. Because they are grossly outnumbered by idiots.

[@icespikegaming6786]

Date fly traps it will be great

[@contessa.adella]

Ghosting is incredibly rude and bad manners…it shows the person doing it has been dragged up with no class. This applies to anyone of any station in life, and class is not about money, it is about behaviour.

[@manovonor]

@@nogames8982 The movie Idiocracy is becoming reality.

[@jesseelijahmcvicker2195]

Worst date I've ever been on was when the gal literally was talking me through a list in her head of what the perfect man for her was and why I didn't meet any of her expectations. I wasn't tall enough, wasn't perfectly aligned with her belief which were very minor differences like whether we believed In mid-trib or pre-trib, that was the only difference. She said she was concerned that it wouldn't work out because I military and a cop so she said id we had gotten married we were more inclined to divorce, she talked about how I dressed which was a button up shirt and slacks, talked about my weight, talked about my somewhat crooked broken nose... It felt like she was literally there with a check list. Meanwhile she worked in fast food and her mom had to drop her off for the date I paid for. Not to dis on her or anything but like jeez, apparently being Christian, Military and first responder, holding the door for her, pulling out the chair so that she could sit down, paying for the date, asking about her interests and complimenting her, sharing the same interests, such as religion, creative writing, art, music still wasn't enough for some of women nowadays lol

[@markymarknj]

You dodged a NUCLEAR BOMB, Brother! Can you imagine being married to THAT?

[@eirikbelisarius1100]

The problem was that she didn't like you. She just found ways to rationalize it. A vast percentage of women are completely bonkers. They have some feeling and rationalize it in stead of honestly searching where the feeling comes from. Men don't expect perfection, they do, and then they fall for the unemployed ex-con... And they rationalize that too.

[@GokuBlackRose978]

That’s sounded more like a parasite more than anything, glad u left after that.

[@MrHoll87]

Here's another ick, just learned this one last week. A woman who was pursuing ME (not the other way around) told me I'm undateable because I don't eat seafood. I wasn't even mad. Just laughed in her face at how petty she is and walked away. And the last comment about literally everything being questioned is absolutely a problem. "Why did you park the car THERE?" "WHAT were you DOING in THAT isle?" Why didn't you get my blanket out of the trunk?" "Why didn't you grab my wallet before we left home?" "Just push the cart out to the car, don't carry the bags!" (literally just had TWO bags with items, didn't need the cart) It's BAD, like, really REALLY bad. You literally cannot do or say a single innocent thing without being interrogated for it, and it's not just "one or two toxic women", it's been almost all of them in my life, including sisters. Society as a whole has a problem of disrespecting men so severely, that many people, men and women both, believe men cannot do anything right and that we're just big dumb idiots. I think if we can remove this narrative, we can correct this toxic and abusive behavior.

[@seraiahzamora5053]

Anyone that has an “ick” list should not be a dating option, dating isn’t about finding a person that fits your checklist, it’s about finding the person who shares your beliefs with flaws you can tolerate.

[@ItApproaches]

I slightly disagree. Beliefs are a toxic concept of ego, a strong relationship is two people who like each other for who they are. Not because of money or status or fame or resources. Humans don't know what the fuck a relationship is anymore, people believe it's a business deal.

[@noktumwhatever753]

Your beliefs form the basis for how you live your life, so finding someone with similar beliefs is absolutely important. If you think beliefs are about ego well, you must be very young. @@ItApproaches

[@seraiahzamora5053]

I see what you’re coming from, but I also have to disagree. Beliefs are the fundamental building blocks of any friendship or romantic relationship. A relationship with different religious beliefs, different marital beliefs, different beliefs on cheating, traditional roles, children, etc. will not last long.

[@taylormoore7031]

I mean its a new way of saying type or specific standard. Just like you said, theres flaws people can tolerate, which people are now calling “icks”, but also standards you refuse to budge on, also “icks”. My “ick” is unambitious and nonchalant guys. Being unambitious is a deal breaker, being nonchalant is a turn off but not a full on deal breaker. Its like if you wanted a girl who knew how to cook. Not knowing how to cook would be your “ick” but it would be up to you on whether youd want that to be a turn off that you two will work on together or if youre going to have it be a full on deal breaker. Its just a new term

[@Chillforev-dd9wr]

@@ItApproachesBeliefs are not toxic my beliefs for example as a guy is respect towards all until you wrong me. Another one is compassion towards dogs and cats. These are good beliefs and most beliefs are very important and are shared by many but other beliefs I have aren’t shared.

[@tayvan531]

This both annoys and saddens me. Men do NOT deserve this kind of treatment, even if these women say it’s a “joke”. Men deserve to be respected and able to be themselves. I can’t imagine the kind of pressure this puts on them. I don’t even fault them for giving up. Ladies, we gotta do better. 😢

[@tayvan531]

@@becky14 wdym?

[@joshuamartinez7409]

@@becky14She's talking about women like you.

[@user-qh4vg3cr9z]

Have you?@@becky14

[@DavidFrost9992]

@@becky14 Have you been picked yet? I'll wager men find empathy more attractive than disdain.

[@scotthearts9634]

​@@joshuamartinez7409 😂😂 another one bits the dust!

[@TACB_23]

4:16 Number 584: Only feed you dog Ruffgreens, any other product would be a red flag

[@Dharengo]

Isn't it a supplement? Don't they still need regular food?

[@spencerpendley9583]

It sounds like it, which is fine with me. Im not gonna deprive my dog in any way​@@Dharengo

[@enigmaticglo]

dont you mean a ruff flag

[@the_weasel_king9947]

But she also said don’t feed your dog dead things which sounds like she’s saying don’t give your dog things with meat and the stuff that is it’s natural diet that it needs and definitely wants. Kind of upsetting because she was such a stellar example to other women until that insane statement. It reminds me of the crazy dumb chick that said her dog was vegetarian and then put the vegetarian food out with the meat next to it and she actually thought the dog wasn’t going to go straight for the meat which OBVIOUSLY it went straight to the meat with no hesitation or thought

[@jacobdurham7219]

I started hanging out with a girl and we were getting close to “dating” and I got her pregnant. The second she got pregnant she acts like she progressively hates me more everyday. She won’t even let me go see her or help her around the house. It’s the day after Valentine’s Day and I’ve only seen her 4 times since her birthday at the end of September . She won’t even entertain the idea of us being a single family unit. I told her happy Valentine’s Day and got “Thanks” as a response like I’m getting friend zoned in high school. I actually got lectured for get her a present. I’ve tried to let all this go because she’s pregnant and we only knew eachother for 2 months before. If this one doesn’t work out I’m definitely done with all dating. The women just get more judgmental and more heartless ever year. Being with someone used to be a fun and enjoyable experience. The last 3 years or so, it just brings stress, lies and arguments. The dating world now is not what it was a few years ago when I was in my early 20’s. It’s honestly so sad, but I’ve just come to accept it as reality at this point

[@isaacstevenson7971]

Bro, have some self respect. You deserve better than someone who treats you like that. Help raise the kid, but do not hesitate to cut things off with her and find someone who will treat you like a person.

[@Gazooka]

In the next 5-10 years cat sales are going to skyrocket

[@Gmod_gaming]

They already are 💀

[@Lordpickleboy]

I think I'm going to try raising a pet raccoon actually maybe after having the patience to train one of those I might be ready for women

[@dokusha519]

Personally, I'm planning to make a cat food brand because, loneliness will be a bigger problem with these people so ofc, the business will be booming

[@okgoogleplay3500]

LOL

[@MissKateKatie]

Which is sad, because cats are higher maintenance than most men 😂

[@stillscrimmaging283]

The last woman I seriously dated told me that it was an “ick” that I sometimes called my mom (once a week, twice at most) just to check in on her and tell her about my week. She called me a son husband. I broke up with her. I thought it was just bad luck then I started seeing videos like this pop up. I’ve long since given up on serious relationships 😂

[@brennancarter7721]

I’m sorry brother. Checking on your family, especially your mom is good quality brother. Be yourself and be kind. You’re not alone.

[@mikezerker6925]

Wow! Being a caring son is an “ick” now? That’s insane!

[@omomo202]

If you DIDNT call your mom, that would be an “Ick” for me! Wow! I guess you can’t be a good son because that “gross.” I still can’t believe she said that..😮

[@Jessibestie-tb9kw]

She was being delulu with that one

[@akashytsamanta]

ok but did u teach her a lesson that checking on your mom is an in-built responsibility, did you tell her ? I want to know that brother.

[@zaku7792]

As a 33 year old man, I can say, I already gave up on dating and finding a relationship. These ick lists and different things just make it seem like I made the right choice in being forever alone. Relationships just aren't worth it anymore.

[@guilhermeemoura]

Like always: great segway to sponsors! You make presenting sponsors fun! We appreciated it.

[@TheGamerfreak1555]

As a 23 year old man, yeah this trend (among others) has killed my hope of a family, a good relationship, made me worried to get into one or even try etc etc

[@fredfredburger5150]

Then focus your efforts on being the most awesome you that you can be 😀

[@pseudonymsarehard7189]

Don't worry, dude. Once there's not enough men to maintain the power grid (or functional police and firefighting services) 10 or 15 years from now after the Gen Xers start to retire, women will start to care very much about what it takes to motivate men to do stressful and/or dirty jobs. Concentrate on excellence and learning valuable skills to produce the goods and services that people need...it will pay off big time relatively soon.

[@WindRyder757]

Focus on urself, get the bag up, looksmax, you'll attract girls left and right once ur established 👍. Worry about women later 👌

[@hex676]

My Husband is 38 and we met when he was 33. The reason why it took him so long to find a wife was because he had a very specific woman he was looking for. And that's not a bad thing. He told me once that he dated a woman in his 20's because she liked him and it made his coworkers jealous (she was apparently pretty attractive.) However, he knew that she wasn't the one and broke up with her after a few months. He stayed off of the dating scene for over 5 years and it got to the point where a lot of his family were thinking he was going to be single basically forever. I'm 9 years younger than him, but he is everything I wanted in my ideal man, and I'm everything he wanted in his ideal woman. The point I'm trying to make is that Mrs. Right will come around. Until she does, focusing on your self-care, career, and any other important factors are what you can do at this time. You're still young and have a lot of time. Just trust your gut instincts when you do meet a woman. Don't give up hope!

[@MetalHeadCobra420]

Grab your passport and fly overseas

[@robertwolfgan]

A tip I can give is, if you're with someone who uses words like "ick", treat her with respect and respectfully walk away.

[@Rotorhead1651]

Respectfully, it's more HOW she uses the word. If she uses it in THIS format, than yeah, absolutely.

[@jenniferpearce1052]

Ick is perfectly reasonable for that green fuzzy thing in the back of the fridge, vomit, etc. Ick for these things? Ick.

[@akashytsamanta]

and teach her/him to stay away from creepy internet .

[@ericchism4855]

TikTok is an ick for me. Especially if one is using it for this. What do you think the Chinese governments icks are? The CCP knows what yours are if you put them on TikTok.

[@chibisteve]

"586. Don't get hit by a car" got me rolling on the floor💀

[@lincolnross9000]

I don't want to date because the prospect makes me want to delete my current save game. So a civil war between my need for intimacy and my love for my freedom to be myself has begun, and my freedom wins out most of the time because I don't like being judged.

[@Person-e1k]

Prioritizing comfort like avoiding judgement and relationships removes all the excitement from life. A good life is not painless, because it includes the thrill of jumping over obstacles. You may sometimes (or maybe at times often) fall and scrape your knee, but you avoid dullness if you go for challenges.

[@charlesturcotte4824]

As a 22y old man, i just str8 stopped dating all together so i can work on myself and not getting taken for granted by women. This trend is poisoning our minds and, ironically that gives me the so called ‘’ick’’

[@noktumwhatever753]

You won't find one worth it at that age anyways. I'm 33 and have spent more time in relationships than out of them, and I promise you that the years I've had to myself were FAR better years overall with some hindsight. Less stress, more money, more free time, more development of myself and my hobbies, just overall it was better. Also led to me making better choices in women, every time I focused on me for a bit.

[@tanayvw]

I strongly agree with both of your points..but i will also say one thing..if you want to enjoy the time with yourself you shall experience a difficult time with someone (in a relationship) And if you want to enjoy a beautiful relationship you shall go through a tough time alone..i say experience everything and choose whatever suits you the best in present and enjoy it. You never know when in future you might want a company or vise versa.

[@sitka49]

@@noktumwhatever753 Hard to resist the power of the pussy - For most of history everything what a man did in life was to pretty much to get laid. Some of it is a little more nuanced ,but overall the same - A career , work . get a home, build income, have a life ( be interesting). Than you deal with what comes with it. Bills, family (kids), responsibilities.

[@mpow3r972]

@@noktumwhatever753 I agree. I'm 34 and honestly my career and friends have brought me more joy recently than almost any relationship I've been in, in the last 10 years. The right one will come into my life eventually.

[@ericb5328]

Aquire thine passport

[@jordanseay216]

I can tell you as a 20 year old man my brain melts watching these women contradict themselves. It makes me even more grateful I found a beautiful, smart, wonderful woman to spend my time with. We’ve been dating for over a year now and when we met it was like talking to an old friend. She’s so amazing and I don’t know what I did to deserve such a person to be in my life.

[@TheoHawk316]

May God bless you and your girl! Live the dream we all wish we could.

[@HoodSwami]

Where did you meet her?

[@jordanseay216]

@@HoodSwami Met her at the gym. Oddly enough she came up to me and gave me a tip on how to better use the squat rack. She gave me her snapchat the same day which she told me later she never really did that with anyone else before me.

[@jordanseay216]

@@TheoHawk316 AMEN! I thank God everyday especially when I look at these crazy chicks on the internet.

[@Clairewithvertigo]

When are you going to marry her? If this is what both of you want.. Don't make her wait too long

[@Nohono5553]

Reminds me of that list ross made about rachel in friends that was seen as horrible and everyone felt bad and was taught its not okay to do such a thing, yet here we are.

[@matthewgrobel5587]

I’m 19, I’m considering diving into the dating world, but it’s stuff like this tic tok trend, and the attitudes of my two sisters that make me reconsider.

[@austinsmith1293]

Just find yourself a cute femboy. 10/10

[@emmanueleka6836]

At this points we will all need a college course on ickonomics 😂

[@junjiechen7341]

Ickology

[@toronjita3095]

Bruh in that case I prefer to work at a Mcdonald's

[@mirandaandrews2872]

🤣🤣

[@emmanueleka6836]

@@toronjita3095 I'm sure that would be an ick 😂

[@piquedcommenter6252]

In view of the fact that there are universities (Harvard being one of them) that teach courses on Taylor Swift's music, I wouldn't be surprised if ickonomics courses actually become a real thing soon 😂

[@jakelyons5935]

Dating has been destroyed for over 15 years. People just find ways to make it even worse

[@MaxTheSpycar]

As a guy getting back into dating its honestly rough. I have pretty high standards for myself, and I want my potential partner to hold herself to similar standards. This whole "dont be too motivated" but also "dont be a couch potato" thing is out of hand. I keep asking myself if its worth it and I dont even know that answer

[@Babezilla]

Don’t bother

[@CyGea]

So the trend of calling random men "creepy" over things like glancing in a women's direction or talking to her, has evolved into finding "ick" in the men they actually date.

[@R.Sole88109]

Oh, no, no, no, the creepy trend is still in operation ad infinitum!.😂

[@Ribbitplease]

You guys play it down

[@MakerInMotion]

She's wearing those tights at the gym that literally show off her camel toe because she doesn't want men to look. How dare you look at what she put deliberate effort into drawing attention to.

[@PcCAvioN]

When you accidentally make eye contact with the same woman twice on the subway and now you have to figure out how to sit there in the least "creepy" way possible

[@Ribbitplease]

@@PcCAvioN 😂😂😂

[@artrixx]

"Don't be affected by wind" ill just tell the tornado coming toward me that I'm off limits💀💀💀

[@thomasfoster7387]

They just don’t want you to be swept off you feet by anyone else

[@SleepingLilliesart-zs7tm]

"don't be affected by wind" is a personal favorite of mine

[@Aidan_minotti]

My biggest ick is when people make TikTok videos about there icks, and also when ppl chew with there mouths open

[@SpenReyn]

There's a comedian who does a bit about the naps: "It's so much harder to manipulate a rational, well rested man."

[@Strix07024]

I was always taught when dating that you should have an A list and a B list. The A’s are the deal breakers you won’t compromise on (your faith, if you’re looking for marriage, how many children you want, quality person of high moral standing/excellent traits, where you want to live, how to raise your children, etc). Your B list consists of things lesser in importance more open to compromise (physical appearance, personality quirks, hobbies, and so on). No person is going to meet every bullet point on your dating preferences but if you can find one that checks all the A’s and be more flexible in your B category/have grace for that person, you might actually stand a chance at finding “the one”. ❤❤ PS- I would also like add (based on personal experience) that while it’s not impossible, conservatives and liberals generally do not mix.

[@lunaredelvour2972]

You've just put into words what I've been struggling to explain for an embarrassing amount of time, thank you!!! This is basically how I came to my decision to start dating my husband, and later on, marry him. I will absolutely be explaining it this way to our kids, thank you for taking my tangled mess of a thought process and putting it into words when I couldn't LMAO

[@ginachu32]

I agree, but this ick list shows us people are grabbing others list and adding to theirs. And thanks to social media everyone's list is longer than they should be.

[@brandih8972]

I have become more traditional as I have been with my husband. He keeps me safe and never hurts me. I didn't know I could expect that in a relationship before I met him. It's allowed me to give up defensive, masculine traits and embrace femininity in a way I didn't realize I wanted to. But it won't always happen that way for every couple. My husband was a widower after 27 years of marriage, so he knew how to create a relationship. I honestly don't know how I released my pride long enough to learn what he has taught me, but I'm grateful it has worked for us.

[@kathycoleman4648]

@@lunaredelvour2972 Yes. The distinction between needs and wants. And I appreciate that the OP has their crap together enough to realize that core values are the major things that should be there.

[@ChasteintheLatter-Days]

I think this list comes down to : don't be a man. Be a Ken doll.

[@xPiratex]

Am I the only one who absolutely loves her hoodie or sweater.. idk- but it's literally so cute!!

[@RonLauzon]

I have to laugh about the seatbelt thing. My very first job in IT was fixing the programs that processed the data from car crash tests. The engineers I worked with prided themselves on the fact that, if you wore your seatbelt, they will almost guarantee that you will survive the accident. And I saw that data to prove it.

[@adamdeveau6311]

I’m certain a seatbelt saved my life

[@mrborgeusborg1541]

But don't forget. If the husband is wearing a seatbelt when in a traffic accident, the wife will not inherige the money???

[@Sgt_Bilko]

It is amazing the crashes I have seen people walk away from, nearly completely unscathed, in modern cars. Sure the car is totaled, but you're not dead either so it is a give and take lol

[@RonLauzon]

@@Sgt_Bilko That's the idea. The car can be replaced. The human can't.

[@Bryan-qz8px]

i actually got hit by a semi last year and i was hit from the side bjt more towards the front where the engine is at so isntead of my car flipping over it went in circles and the onlt thing that saved me from not being ejected out of the car was my seatbelt i even had red marks and bruising where my seatbelt was at

[@joshuastephenward5316]

The problem is not what people don't want but the lack of knowing what they do want .

[@p.a.w.sthetravelinggamer6750]

That mixed with the lack of wanting to grow and step outside of the bandwagon effect.

[@darlingdeb7010]

That's the entire point of dating, though. To find the one you're supposed to marry and along the way, you discover your likes, dislikes, types of personalities that work and don't work. How else are you going to learn these things if you don't date?

[@gambino883]

@@darlingdeb7010 That's the problem nowadays. People just don't date anymore. They instantly go into "situationships" and the moment shit hits the fan they complain and split because they didn't figure anything out beforehand by dating eachother properly.

[@darlingdeb7010]

@@gambino883 I honestly blame parents for not teaching their children about this stuff. Note to selves: actually raise our children and teach them stuff so they don't have this problem.

[@gambino883]

@@darlingdeb7010 sadly smart devices and the internet are raising children right now.

[@ZaWrldo]

I saw one that said "when they celebrate their birthday" like damn we can't even be born anymore

[@Fade025]

Every woman I've been with has cheated on me. It's hard to find the energy to even put myself in a situation where another person could do it to me again. Women have only made me value myself less and less. With what little I still love and care about myself, I want to hold onto. Because I don't think I can survive dealing with that pain another time.

[@Carolyn_Cannon]

LMAOOO "Dont be affected by wind" is what finally killed me 😂 Like okay lemme just wear medieval armor, then nothing moves in the wind. Boom, wind non-existent...?

[@botep5529]

"don't wear medieval armour" is probably on the ick list

[@Lordpickleboy]

*don't get hit by a car* is the best ick on the list

[@carlgonzalez3337]

@@Lordpickleboy "don't have a penis" is better

[@shatteredcore]

I get this feeling that synchronizing (my breath) with the wind gives me this zen natural vibe... On the opposing side, those people who think it's an ick, don't even have any situational awareness at all :-o I've seen them trying to use an umbrella because it rains while there are also stormwinds at the same time(which regularly is the case when it rains, and thus umbrella's s*ck), so busy on their phone they'd literally walk in front of an oncoming car, I've seen them bump into each other because it's cold and they were hardly dressed and both just staring at the ground grumpy while walking, brainlessly screaming in public places waiting rooms and restaurants like as if any of those other 50 ppl that are forced to listen in even care and as if they were actually saying something usefull instead of just brainlessly vomiting up feelings and feeling-driven-gossip THAT HAS NO POINT WHAT SO EVER, etc, etc, etc... Flags(even red ones) have all the fun, they get to wave in the wind without dumb bratty b*tches treating them like shit for it ;-) If they weren't tied to poles they'd be almost as free as birds... And guess what: birds are happier than the average human, and a lot of bird species also mate for life(that's why the pigeon is the symbol for the eternal bond of marriage, NOT PEACE you lousy hipsters but marriage ;-) )

[@flyingfortress4819]

I have been trying to date for the past 3 years. “Impossible” doesn’t even begin to describe how bad it is for an average guy. I got extremely lucky finding my current girlfriend who I really click with and she doesn’t fit in with modern women

[@Kamishikyo]

Where did you meet her? :o

[@karazech6755]

At least you have her now

[@Rotorhead1651]

Speaking as a 62 y/o widower, I hope she's the one for you. I was in my 30s when I met my wife. We had nearly 27 years together until cancer took her. I hope you have at least that much time with yours. 🙏

[@mikezerker6925]

Yes! Pure luck! I tried and failed in my teens, twenties, and early thirties until I finally gave up and stayed single! Women have way too many lofty expectations that not one guy can meet!

[@rydaddy2867]

​@@Rotorhead1651As a 45 year old widower myself, also cancer when she was 39, I echo this statement exactly!!

[@JustAnotherGuy154]

Don’t have OCD 😂 the audacity of that

[@abyss0fficial]

This hits home really hard lol. i was homeschooled until my 11th grade year and i did not have much social interaction with women. I feel like that distance has gotten even greater, because in this current society, it has gotten even harder to try and communicate with them. Its far easier to just make your money, pay your bills, and then be able to do whatever you want without the threat of an argument or clash.

[@bm_xr7192]

I’m a 25yo man, and I can say I’m pretty much done with dating at this point as well, had a few relationships that didn’t work because no one’s willing to work on themselves or not expect me to have just been perfect and fell out of the sky, so I’m just gonna wait and see if someone good comes around who hopefully already has her life together and/or is willing to figure it all out together.

[@gasaiv2]

It's like looking in a mirror, I'm 25 and cba dating, if a genuine nice, and fun to be around girl comes my path I won't say no. But I haven't actively went out of my way to find someone for about 7 or so years now xd at this point I don't mind being alone, and I don't see myself dating anytime soon ngl.

[@bm_xr7192]

@@gasaiv2 crazy brotha, it’s seeming like this is more common for young men in our age group due to how society has poisoned minds of these young women. It makes you not even wanna try, but sometimes not trying is best, I do that same thing; I talk to people, and if they seem cool I’ll maybe let a relationship happen but definitely never go looking haha

[@KorGarrot]

I'm 31 now, and I'm feeling the same way

[@LeeDaegon]

dont date western women. foreign women are where its at

[@hydra9627]

Bro, I just turned 21 last week, and I haven’t bothered with a relationship since I was 17. It just isn’t worth it anymore, too much grief.

[@jessicaangeline]

Humility and acceptance are the two things I've found to be essential to have a fulfilling, joyful marriage. I'm so glad I married young before getting stuck in my own ways so I could learn the be the wife that suited my husband. Having icks like this is just a sign of immaturity and selfishness.

[@leemalco8715]

Or, alternatively, you were raised to be a fembot with no personality and you married someone who is just going to grind you into moon dust. Which, fine, you do you, or you know, whatever your husband tells you.

[@Travis-mj1iq]

Good point, as an autistic guy, I feel like relationships are much better for both people when all both people want to do is please their partner rather than mostly or exclusively thinking only of themselves.

[@jessicaangeline]

@@Travis-mj1iq exactly

[@DavidFrost9992]

I agree. Mutual humility and acceptance is a practically unshakeable foundation, when paired with the freedom to be honest. Not mean, but honest. And I like that you recognized that you have to put some effort into becoming your type's type. Too many people, who don't get humility, thinking they are entitled to be whatever type they want and still attract whatever type they like.

[@MicahDeboode]

It amazes me how smooth she goes into the ads

[@Ezra-g6m]

"Don't have a birthday" had me dying 🤣

[@guacguy]

ick: if he breathes, thinks, moves, sees, hears, talks, or eats

[@luizeduardogomespinto846]

...and if he's dead too!

[@edachenbach-bf5ev]

If he lives it's an ick.

[@edenreynolds6190]

It makes me wonder if they even want to be with a man or a mannequin

[@kevinle1083]

if he eats food or sleeps differently it’s an ick. (Fuck it, I wanna kiss men now.)

[@Phantomship61]

and if he exists.....

[@Multifan90]

As far back as I can remember I've always said I never wanted to marry. At first it was just the "girls are icky" phase, in middle school I never met anyone who sparked an interest in me, and in high school every girl I met had a terrible attitude from the get go, I bumped shoulders with one once and when I apologized she literally said "who said you could talk to me?" At that point I said screw it, what do I even need a girlfriend for anyway? There's nothing a girl can do for me that I can't do myself or have a friend do. I'm 27 now, living on my own, good job, no debts, no problems, doing what I want, when I want. Why would I add a girl to this?

[@DavidFrost9992]

I think you have done a good thing in working on yourself for your sake! Just do yourself a favor and don't jump into hookup culture. It might be fun for you, but it's not fulfilling for one and contributes to more of the collapse in the dating market for two.

[@msceconomics946]

Ah man that’s obviously rude but taking that personally? Maybe she had a bad day or wanted to establish her dominance.. who cares. Just laugh it away

[@wiehangrobbelaar7605]

It is not about taking it personally. Men are not blind. Men are aware of the attitude of women in general. I know there are lots of women who still are like Brett, but it seems that it is not the norm. Generally, men like a drama free lifestyle and don't want to put up with women who makes creating drama, a lifestyle. And anyone (men or women) who are willing to put up with someone that consistently disrespects them, should seriously re-think/contemplate the future of their relationship. Having your SO devalue your existence, kills you slowly and it is a bad way to die.

[@unleashthedog]

I mean if you want children you kinda need to, but your heart is in the right place. I have said many times in the last 2 years of very high stress, when having discussions with my partner, that there's nothing she does i can't do for myself. Stuff that she thinks she's so important for in the house, I would just do myself like I've done when I've lived on my own.

[@vegasprogambler5336]

@@unleashthedog men can adopt or pay a girl to have their kid. honestly, in many cases just paying a girl to have your kid is way cheaper.

[@Astrochimp88]

The - its not that simple! - What do you want? - its not that simple! is the best meme ever!

[@giogioGANGSTA]

The transition to the sponsor was so smooth though

[@roseschannel6374]

I'm a young lady and this is why I don't get into social media trends. Men deserve more respect than this. They are human, not something you can sculpt into perfection.

[@buckjones4901]

Exactly all have our good and bad points, and if a person is in a relationship for any length of time, the thrill will eventually wear off and you see all those bad points. This is where real love comes in, real love is an action of doing for another not an emotion.

[@redactedcanceledcensored6890]

based

[@Parasiteve]

one thing about being in a relation is you help each other become better humans. most times men tend to be messy and as a wife you're supposed to pick up after em but really you need to also remind em to pick up their damn shet and put it in the hamper lol their moms sure as fug dont teach em that ever! but to want your man to be some perfect being? nah thats fugged up dude. they should already be "perfect" for you which is why you wanted to be with em in the first place lol.

[@jeffashley5512]

I'm in my 50's and had struck a conversation with a woman in her 50's. After about 15 minutes of great conversation we realized we hadn't introduced ourselves when I said my name was Jeff she immediately got up and said "I can't date ANYONE named Jeff". Lol

[@TheoHawk316]

Jeff is an epic name. She didn't know what she was missing out on.

[@Spudz76]

Well at least it's not Geoff, then of course run away.

[@BrendaLeigh]

Oh my goodness! How shallow!

[@martabachynsky8545]

My husband's name is Jeffrey. I love his name.

[@jeffashley5512]

@@martabachynsky8545 Jeffrey is a good name. 😁

[@user-cr6uo1nw2f]

my icks are: not being trustworthy, cheating, having girl bsfs (only in some cases) and that is all i can think of atm 🤷🏻‍♀

[@anthonywilliams7052]

Whoooamun did that long time ago, never help, never approach, and definitely never hire.

[@tomkarpati7743]

After being ignored time and time again, I just got used to the fact that most woman has a touch too high look on themselves. When a 7/10 thinks of herself as a 10/10 thats perfectly understandable. But when a 2/10 thinks that she is a 9/10? Nope! No matter how much makeup ugly is ugly. Now refreshingly in personality too.

[@dominichutchison1322]

Yo fr. I aint even ugly enough to get a date 😂

[@DavidFrost9992]

Women don't seem to understand the way men rate them, and men don't understand how women rate them. And the reason this is a problem is because people seem to forget that who they are has to be attractive to the person they want to attract, not to themselves. A guy who wants a mild, sweet woman is going to have to be the guy that can alleviate her worries so she can stay mild and sweet. A woman who wants a strong, confident man can't be the kind of woman that is constantly tearing people down and needing validation. But the math is pretty simple. For the ladies: Men average the 1-10 score of your appearance and the 1-10 score of your personality in their personal estimation, not yours. Then they subtract 5 points if you are in the habit of seeking outside male attention and add maybe 1 or 2 points for having things in common with them. So, if you are actually a 10 in looks, but you are a 2 in personality (because you spend an awful lot of time talking down to him and gossiping but still call him 'cutie'), your base score is 6. If you then have an instagram where you post pictures designed to get likes, comments, and DMs from other guys (whether you answer them or not), he can reasonably assume that you could kick on the evolutionary force of hypergamy and ghost him for another guy who you think is better at any time, making his investments in you temporary and unending. This knocks your score from 6 to 1. Now, let's be very generous and say, "Yeah, but she likes Star Wars as much as I do," you could get bumped up to a 2. Maybe a 3, depending on how many Star Wars cons you attend. Conversely, if you are honestly a 6 in looks, and you treat him well enough to get an 8 in personality, your base score is a 7. If you aren't out getting validation from other guys, you stay a 7. And even if you don't like Star Wars at all, but aren't awful about it, you stay a 7. In this way, a hypergamous supermodel loses to a mid but decent girl as far as long-term. For the guys: There are two scales women use to rate men, like an x and a y coordinate, and it causes us the biggest confusion because the names of them seem like opposites. Women take a combination of your willingness to provide and invest in her, how good you make her look among her friends, and any one of a million tiny little details, and then subtract icks and attention you pay to other women. This sum is your Good Guy score. Then, take your skillsets (based on how useful they are to her) and your confidence in those skillsets (and willingness to use those skills on her behalf) and add those to your physical appearance and charm, and you get your Bad Boy score. You then use these to figure out where on the grid you land. The lower your Bad Boy score, the less attractive you are for romantic relationships. The lower your Good Guy score, the less attractive you are for long-term relationships. The friend zone is where man who maxes out the Good Guy score and has a low Bad Boy score lands, and this is where we get confused, because we men see good and bad as opposites. The Bad Boy she hooks up with has no Good Guy score, and she is attracted to him but gets her heart broken when she realizes she can't get him to raise his Good Guy score. If you have neither a Good Guy score or a Bad Boy score because you have done nothing with your life, you simply do not exist to her. You might as well live under a bridge. But, should you manage to max out both scores, you are Prince Charming. Prince Charming is the guy who treats her like a princess while using a wide variety of skills and charisma on her behalf, being physically attractive, and having the obvious but restrained ability to physically dominate threats. This breaks down for both into simple advice that has been parroted for generations. Women: Don't be difficult, and treat him nicely instead of as a disposable or replaceable income source. Men: Learn skills and develop self discipline and confidence, and ply those skills to provide for a woman you deem good enough to trust. Make sure your values align.

[@YinnnYangg]

I am in the same boat as u bro

[@jibberism9910]

Bro, give it a rest. Save yourself. @@DavidFrost9992

[@eugeneantwi9449]

@@DavidFrost9992well said 🎉🙏

[@Carolyn_Cannon]

I'm a girl. I do have a list of expectations. - Love God - Respect me/my boundaries - Hold high moral standards 3 things that I'm sure tons of decent guys easily fall under. Screw the ick list. Tell men what they SHOULD do rather than what they SHOULDN'T do, and don't make it ridiculous.

[@DavidFrost9992]

Good heavens is this reasonable! But, if I may: everyone tells men what they should do, and a list of what they shouldn't do is an extension of that. Instead, telling someone what matters to you is the best avenue. As you have so succinctly done with your list. You value God and morality, and value someone who is respectful. Those aren't icks at all; they are standards. Just make sure you are frequenting places where men value the same things, and you will have a much better time.

[@neilmcdonaldii4367]

Religious people scare me about as bad as normal people. Normal people freak out about the most random things. Meanwhile….. Religious people (especially “Christian’s”), don’t even read the entire holy book that they swear to uphold and love. Heck… Christian’s won’t even admit that Jesus was brown and that Jesus wasn’t even his real name! Most of them won’t even admit that all of the same information that is in the King James Version of the Bible (which is incomplete by the way) is missing all of the information that was pertinent and was very well documented in the Ethiopian Bible…. If you “love God/the creator” then why are you unwilling to acknowledge the book of Enok? Better yet… Why are they so afraid of acknowledging that the Hindu texts and the Hebrew texts coincide with each other and tell they exact same story(the Hindu texts go into way more detail and oddly enough, mimic the Ethiopian Bible/ true Hebrew texts)? If you’re going to have requirements, make sure that you actually understand what it is that you’re requiring and what the reality of it is to begin with. Love thine neighbors as one would love time self. Also, always seek the whole truth by reading the entire document from beginning to end instead of jumping around from statements to statements.

[@FEiSTYFEVER]

The should do list would be a compilation of every female fantasy that must be made manifest or else she's not interested at all, you'll be invisible to her, an unperson.

[@mr_confuse]

Having just binged a lot of "The Last Kingdom" the first point, immediately strikes me as off-putting haha

[@Sodorboy98]

Shut up. Just shut the hell up. There's not going to be a man who's going to fall into your trap. Nice try.

[@billdraghi4808]

Don’t be affected by wind had me rolling 😂😂😂

[@KannaKandy]

As a woman who has been in and out of a few (at least 2) relationships, this “ICK” is completely foreign to me. I don’t have specific requirements. The only standard I need to be met is that they are kind, compassionate, willing to listen to me, and are able to accept when I do these things in return. Sure, I want to be held, sure I want to be spoiled, sure I love gifts, but I just as equally want to give as I want to be gifted. The only “ICK” I ever feel is for men with the existence of an ICK. Im a simple woman, and I’d like a simple man 🥰

[@jzen1455]

I once posted a short list of what I was looking for in a woman, which included a woman of childbearing age, on FB that led to many people denigrating me for wanting a “baby incubator”, being dehumanizing, being dismissive of women who can’t give birth, and other nonsense by both men and women. One woman responded I was being audacious for looking for a woman who was younger.

[@jacobsampsonis7782]

Not for nothing if you aren't at least 50 or older that is a fucking creepy thing to say. You can talk about kids after a couple dates to see if you're that compatible. Don't ask people about them bearing your children before even meeting them... Just a word of dating advice

[@JakeAdkinsOfficial]

​@jacobsampsonis7782 he didn't say he wanted a child-bearer, he said "child-bearing age" which literally means he's looking for a woman who is anywhere between 18 and Menopause...

[@David-pw4zy]

Don't listen to Jacob. I think people flipping out about what you said are a bit overly sensitive. Women are socially allowed to have the most ridiculous, shallow preferences but men are always shit on if they mention their own preferences. I don't even listen to those hypocrites anymore. But it might sound better if you say "a woman who also wants kids" instead

[@arminxvs3372]

"Prepare for standards... and make them DOUBLE" 😂

[@AlwaysVotingMAGA]

#FemaleFragility #Misandry

[@freedomokoromadu5650]

Don't breathe, don't be affected by wind 😂. How do a person even think of these things

[@Maximus5775]

It baffles me too, They must have the tisim

[@nataliesanchez871]

@@Maximus5775I have it. I don’t believe in icks.

[@Maximus5775]

@@nataliesanchez871 I have it too I guess mabye they have the Biden version

[@iamkAIden]

Dating is already dead. This list is just beating a dead horse.

[@dominicrosetti2335]

As men, we don't need an ick list. What we value most is loyalty and honesty, when a woman screws that up, she can hit the road

[@dragon_rider23]

I think one of the really big reasons for this is how romance is portrayed in media. Most movies with romance are about the couple getting together. They don't really address them actually being together. They don't show the characters having fights and making up in a healthy way. They don't allow the two in the couple to be imperfect. Afterall, they are "perfect" for each other aren't they? People come to expect their partner to be perfect, when they aren't perfect ourselves. The person that is right for them will be the person who they grow together with, not the person they have to be perfect for. I also think this trend doesn't really differentiate between icks. Some people have preferences sure, but are they seriously going to be dealbreakers? For me, as long as a guy has similar beliefs to me and treats me with respect, that's really all I'm looking for. Guys, I promise not all girls are like this. Don't give up hope.

[@vroomkaboom108]

Fiction usually gets around this problem by making the characters have some dramatic bad trait like being a psycopath or being haunted by trauma so you can go and say "see?! they're not perfect!"

[@Notben10-s3p]

I've tossed all hope for love in the future out the window. I can't live up nor deal with these kinds of standards and tests, and even if I could, I wouldn't want to deal with people like this that just see me as an idea of what they want me to be.

[@Starblade300]

Same man almost makes me wanna be gay

[@gogito7448]

​@@Starblade300 don't give up your morality for a woman

[@herbie_the_hillbillie_goat]

Why? Because some idiots on the internet made a video? This isn't real ya know. Brett makes it sound like these trends are more pervasive than they are.

[@Kerastalise]

Those icks exist??

[@AnOrginalUser]

Not all woman are like that

[@user-em9ig6hl4f]

Her ick was a smooth transition into a review 👌

[@QueerTing]

The only "ick" I have is when somebody got a list of icks.

[@sethdon1100]

Brett finally admits dating is impossible 👏👏👏

[@4SlowFashion]

soon as theyre married they all do, thinking they got the last one lol "so glad im not you" energy

[@cillian9663]

​@@4SlowFashion I mean, fair though

[@darlingdeb7010]

How is it impossible? 😂 this actually makes it a whole lot easier to weed out the bad ones. If you discover the other person goes by a list like this, drop them and move on.

[@zibix4562]

@@darlingdeb7010 I agree. We use to have to find out the hard way about red flags. Now they are displayed. I say this as someone that is married that dating isnt impossible, but it is fair to acknowledge that it is way more difficult than it use to be.

[@inhale1]

@@darlingdeb7010 There is a book called "The Book of Numbers" - Basically, a man finding a marriageable woman in current year is effectively "impossible"

[@Fav_Mexican22]

Every thing is a ick now a days

[@constantspider]

I saw an ick that says "Don't shower barefoot" At this point doing all of these would make us disgusting

[@Caelus32]

This is a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't

[@inhale1]

The paralysis of choice. Women perceive all the attention they get as options. So they treat dating like shopping on Amazon.

[@dchawk81]

Men are just try on hauls to them.

[@Wyomingchief]

I got divorced at the age of 39, became a single father who raised his two daughters by himself. I tried to date, but being a single father I had a few hard and fast rules. I stuck with those and I'll be honest, I only had one woman I dated for about 6 months, we're still good friends but it just didn't work out. In fact she's now married and I get along with her and her husband. But I'm now a lot older and I've accepted the fact that I will probably die alone. It sucks but it is what it is

[@MikeWoot65]

Clocks ticking before your daughter’s are taught to hate you and hate the “patriarchy”. It really is a cult

[@BlueAdept596]

I was 31 when I became a single father to my two stepdaughters. I tried dating, but working full time and being a full time parent just didn't allow for it. Since they've been grown and on their own I just haven't found any women worth dating. Modern women bring nothing to a relationship and take everything. 59 now and dip my toe in the dating pool occasionally, but quickly realize why I keep walking away from it.

[@veronicab15]

People just ask God for help 😭 you don't have to die alone

[@heyarnold7256]

Good. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with that. Go find a new hobby or new purpose to live for. thats more important than finding a woman.

[@leonardomafrareina7634]

I'm 22, never dated before, and I don't think I ever will date a western woman. They'll call me insecured for that, but that's simply playing it safe.

[@AngelofDeath4391]

My uncle actually taught me something he said Never love a goddess because youll treat her like one and thats what she expects Rather love a normal girl because she'll love you mire when you treat he like a goddess Also just to comment on the icks thing i dated this one girl things were going well until she askedme about my hobbies and i said i enjoy going to the gym she just got up and left saying thats an ick Like bruh i cant even improve myself now man

[@SpacedOwls]

Dating in 2024 I feel like I need a resume printed out and brought to brunch.

[@DoNotEatPoo]

That's creepy. Ick. Also, if you don't do it red flag, ick.

[@mikezerker6925]

Exactly! First dates feel more like job interviews!

[@festersmith8352]

An NDA so you don't get trashed on SM for anything you did, and a camera for video proof doesn't hurt either. A legal consent form if you make it to the second date. Credit report and bank statement might get you a third. Only show that if you actually got the consent form signed.

[@mikezerker6925]

@@festersmith8352 I'd rather stay single than have to jump through all those hoops! You need a lawyer and a contract just to go out for coffee with all these "consent" requirements, that she could revoke at a moments notice, or after the fact!

[@TheUnkindness]

I don't see how men would not give up. Every time I tell myself ''Meh, why not give it another chance?'' I end up utterly disappointed no matter how low my expectations were. I personally have higher standards for myself than I have for people around me. I don't go out often but women at work keep complimenting me to a point where I'm almost uncomfortable. I often notice women eyeing me up wherever I go and when I go on dates, they often ask me how tf I'm still single. I dated this girl from work not long ago and she was so into me, I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes. I've never seen a woman so into a man in my entire life (besides for celebrity crushes), everything seemed to be going great, she even told everyone at work that we were seeing each other after our first date. Then she started getting distant, blaming the shit she was going through at that moment. She kept acting super interested though when we were together... Until I caught her with another guy. I don't mean to brag, really. But I'm in pretty good shape and women often like reminding me how they find me attractive and not just physically. Yet, I cannot find a sane woman who's not playing games and is also attractive. I usually check most of their boxes, but despite not having many myself, they can't check mine, let alone live up to their own delusional standards they hold me to. I feel like I cannot make a single ''mistake'' (at least what they deem to be) without them losing interest instantly. It's like as soon as you show a part of yourself or even remotely showing interest in them, they'll see it as a weakness and move on to one of the thousand guys they have lined up in their phone. It's a game you cannot win. You go up to a girl and ask her out, instead of seeing it like an act of courage, she will think that she's above you since you showed interest. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. So might as well just give up and save yourself the time, effort, money and embarrassment.

[@brennancarter7721]

Sadly, I think your making the right move, it’s clear that men are being used as scapegoats for societies ills. I’m 26 and I’ve never had a girlfriend and I’m not that keen into searching for one. I just try to be productive and kind.

[@Mr.McWatson]

I can relate to the point about losing interest and outrageous standards. At some point it feels like you're hanging onto the outside of an airplane with your fingers, while being absolutely buffeted with guilt trips, criticism and accusations. Letting go is the only way to get out of the situation. I realized I had been stressed 24/7 while in my previous relationship. It's a sad scenario, modern women are their own worst enemies. They think nagging and criticising is empowering, in reality it ensures they'll end up a side piece.

[@Fengx3]

Congratulations or I'm sorry

[@2.PAK.JAVS999]

I have been in your shoes 3 years ago, a girl who LITERALLY was into me (random texts like Open the Window while going in a bus, compliments, side eyes, asking to people where i went or what i'm up to, COOKING for me), as soon i showed interest back and wanted to be Nice, it went to shit. Even older girls at work told new girls i'm the Best it can "offer" as a partner (no Drugs, no party, no alcohol, positive, etc). It's strange how these modern womens operate

[@MikeWoot65]

Most guys are intentional trying to be “douchebags” and act borderline mean bc thats what women what. It’s really sad

[@Shulapi]

smooth as butter the sponsor transision...

[@fritzyberger]

Its only an ick if they dont find you attractive before

[@Fukua_Gaming]

Why haven’t we gotten rid of tik tok yet 😔

[@icymarcos5485]

Because it’s a violation of the first amendment

[@jamesplymire5342]

💯 🙏 Soon, hopefully.

[@jamesplymire5342]

​@@icymarcos5485🤦‍♂️

[@Fukua_Gaming]

@@icymarcos5485 sometimes violations are a good thing and this appears to be one that’s needed

[@RCCrawlerz209]

We need to get rid of ALL social media that is ruining lives & society, like X, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, etc.

[@yourhope5410]

I am a young woman (21). I have never been involved with a man mostly due to being very shy and keeping to myself all throughout school, as well as not fitting in with my liberal peers. I do want to get married but I am worried that not only will my shyness make it very hard, it seems most people these days aren’t interested in marriage or commitment… it feels impossible to meet someone naturally, but “dating” apps are filled with degeneracy… what do

[@pekkajarvinen69]

Wait it out. This trend will pass in a few years. Hopefully before you are 30 and hit the wall, then you run out of options.

[@XxZekeKnightxX]

I'm going to assume this is in good faith, so I will engage in kind. I have no advice for you that you haven't already heard before. I know because I've lived a life similar to yours. I'm an autistic man (29), and my dating life could just about fill the pages of a short story from 2015. I wasted four years across twelve dating apps, and I got one date that ghosted me before the second date. The only natural encounters I've had were online outside of dating apps, such as video games and online communities, and I found just slightly more moderate liberal ladies, one went full woke after rejecting me the second time. All I ever wanted in life is to be a husband and a father, and that seems to be too much to ask these days. I'm convinced that only God can make it happen in this climate. May He guide us...

[@thechongster]

When you meet a man you want to get to know, show him respect. Of course be careful because there are men who just don't care about you or about commitment. But there are also men who secretly desire a loving committed relationship, but they've been so discouraged by the current climate that they gave up on commitment too. Maybe by showing them how you actually respect them, you can return them to their true selves.

[@Jorean22]

I would take you out on a date I’m 22 and I’m a Christian

[@yourhope5410]

@@XxZekeKnightxX I definitely understand how it may have come across as sarcastic, but sadly I am being 100% honest. I have a lot of issues with shyness and difficulties talking to others. That and living in an extremely liberal area has made it very hard to make friends, let alone meet someone. I haven’t quite lost all hope yet, but sometimes I wonder…

[@Chaosknight98993]

This is a reason why I decided not to go anywhere near any date sites and the dating world in general. I prefer single for the rest

[@Frozzones]

Haven't dated since 2016 and I'm living the life! Until dating goes back to old-school, I ain't doing it! Call me traditional, but I wanna dress up nice, hop in my car, drive over to my woman's house for a scheduled date, see her come out in an amazing dress while I hold the car door open for her. Go to a nice fancy restaurant, I pay the bill, take her home and give her a goodnight kiss at the door before I leave. That to me is my ideal for dating. Every single one of those things I said I'd get attacked for in this day and age. "He's trying too hard" "He thinks I'm beneath him because he paid the bill/opened my door" "He's too much of a coward to end the night with just a kiss" None of that is true. It's sad when chivalry is mistaken for misogyny. And then we get asked why chivalry is dead and gentlemen don't exist anymore...

[@paysonian]

i’m part of the many many guys that have given up dating, and let me tell you it wasn’t easy at first. and then i realized it actually is easy. i can pretty much do whatever i want without worrying about what potential partners are thinking about me

[@turbot8er672]

I'm past the point of having superficial preferences like that. All I require is for a woman to be attractive (to me, no one else), be a Christian, want kids, and be able to tolerate me. I could probably look past anything else. But my lack of requirements is probably a turn off for a lot of women.

[@Rotorhead1651]

You don't have to have a lot of women be interested, just "the one". I found mine in 1993, and I knew her from the start. I didn't really expect, she was just there, right in front of me, like she'd been there the whole time. If you're patient, and you pay attention, you'll find her.

[@phoebea]

Don't lose hope, dude. She's out there. Most good women are not on social media, so you may have to try to meet them in the world. I suggest picking up a hobby and meeting new people there. Even if the hobby is mostly for guys, they may have girlfriends who know a friend or something. Dating today is basically networking and putting yourself out there. If you go to church regularly, she might be sitting just a couple of seats away.

[@crazysunshyne]

@@Rotorhead1651That’s great, but you’ve missed the point. It’s not 1993 anymore. It’s very different now, and many, maybe majority of women have unreasonable expectations

[@gameking3278]

My expectations are apparently too high, because I’ve never found a woman who can meet them. All I’ve ever wanted in a woman is someone who’s religious, not narcissistic, kind, wise, funny, has long hair, works hard to stay healthy and has some hobbies in common with me. Apparently that’s too much to ask for. 😞

[@alefaj.afalava8090]

I recommend watching Hoe_math he’s got some solid advice

[@Anon83462]

Ick: Don't drive with headlights on at night, you should have night vision.

[@JustAnotherGuy154]

“Respectfully l think I’m going to be a passport bro at this point”

[@gracelynnjones5171]

Hi! I’m a younger girl, only 18 and i feel like nobody my age agrees with me, but I always agree with what you have to say! I love you Brett!

[@cyphex9809]

I'm an 18 year old guy and yeah it's sad how almost no one in our peer group seems to have common sense anymore but whatever... i like to believe there's still a few rational people among us.

[@AleenaLearner]

Well I don't know what ages and social circles we're talking about but I know many people like her. They're pretty easy to spot too

[@dmtaboo_truth7052]

Maybe think about dating older guys who aren't infected with the woke mind virus.

[@disneyprincessintraining2725]

I remember being a bit hesitant to date my husband when I realized he had a bit of a mouth (I don’t recall ever hearing a cuss word at home in my life) but decided to do it anyways. I’m very glad I did. Still has a sailor’s mouth, but is perfect for me in every way. There are certain qualities that should deter one from getting into a relationship with someone, but when you let every little thing you don’t do be a “red flag” then that’s an issue. I decided on a few major things I wasn’t willing to compromise and let the rest work itself out. I’m pregnant and having a baby with my husband so I’m going to assume things have worked well for me thus far.

[@Parasiteve]

no one is perfect. meaning when you find your soulmate, they're going to have things they do that you dont like but thats life. you get the good with the bad. its about balance. life is all about balance and right now there is none and its why everything is fugged up