This Toyota Beat My Lamborghini in a Race...

[@jeypi__]

I don't think the 86 would destroy any supercar soon but im curious to see you in a lambo against someone who is competent in tuning and using the GT86 in Akina.

[@Quiet-coast]

YEESSSS

[@huyra8019]

The 86 in my ghost makes 350 horsepower and has better suspensions

[@projectblade82]

@@huyra8019 that's the current specs. The opening race spec makes it 200+ hp

[@yourlocalmilkman916]

Imagine trb 03

[@slightlyinsaneraf]

I used to fly down akina in gt86, and was getting some good time for an 86 standard, i think there is a misconception about the whole "slow car faster than fast car in corners", even in Initial D, you didn't see stock 86 competing with a Diablo or Murcielago, it competed with max 400hp cars and even then AE86 had pretty healthy 240HP by that time. When it had stock 4AGE Takumi would and did loose with that black EVO. I think comparing 600+HP car with a semi automatic box to a barely 200hp manual 86 is like comparing nokia 3310 to newest greatest smartphone.

[@TWLSpark]

I mean, to be completely fair, it was made clear in Initial D that the 86 was indeed weak on straights, even when running down the mountains, and only really had overtaking opportunities at curves rather than straights. The only thing running down gave it was momentum to gain some extra speed in the straights, but honestly the real reason it only ran going down was really because it struggled going at high speeds going up. If this is about MF Ghost, though... Well, that one is honestly a mess.

[@nade5557]

Mf ghost's rules aren't even bad. The only thing is that they don't account for aero

[@zx921]

@@nade5557 They are... they really are bad

[@nade5557]

@@zx921 grip to weight level is the same so all cars could corner at the same speed. the heavier cars would handle worse. Cars with more power would stress the tyres more and wouldnt be able to put the power down well, that matters because in mf ghost they go round the course several times. On twisty roads like those near hakone the rules are passable

[@zx921]

@@nade5557 Yeah but there are a lot of plot holes and stuff that the rules don't compensate for. For example, what's stopping the contestants from weight reduction, giving their cars a ton of hp or ,as you mentioned, aero upgrades? Also "grip to weight" doesn't make sense. Tyres are only a part of the equation when it comes to handling. Suspension, differentials and electronic assists would put supercars on domination level. MF ghost has potential but the author doesn't know a thing about motorsport...

[@GaranNoDou298]

As far as MF Ghost goes, it seems that it's more-so a driver issue. The majority of the pilots are braking quite hard in corners, while Kanata is stated to pretty much throw himself into a corner at almost full speed, similar to what Takumi did. So I can fathom him getting ahead, especially after adding a turbo to his car. But I'm failing to understand how he manages to catch up to Michael, since he's in a better car + on par with Kanata in technique. As far as the lower ranks go, it makes...some sense. But with the top 3 drivers who all boast superior cars, it's really confusing.

[@xenomaxi8504]

It might be a dig at MF Ghost, but it's still incredibly fun! The GT86 may have been smoked, but man would it be fun to try and race it againts the Huracan!

[@CrowJam]

in mfghost I think they have a ruleset of powerful cars having to use thin tyres, so they cant actually put down all that power

[@InitiateDee]

@@CrowJam I think it's still very flawed, because I don't think there are any rules against a properly tuned AWD system, good TCS, good stability control, etc

[@nade5557]

@@InitiateDee I think there are penalties for 4WD systems. TCS and stability don't actually matter much at the pro level. In fact it may make you slower because you have less control over the car. The only problem in MF Ghost is that they don't account for aero. All the other rules would even the playing field reasonably

[@tarlzthe14th]

@@CrowJam It's also not quite stock, and it usually places midfield until it gets a supercharger.

[@crackaddict1337]

with literally 0 drift. the opportuninty to drift to 86 is why this race had to happen

[@SamaraxMorgan26]

Mountain roads are not the Great Equalizer of cars, but of drivers. The narrow streets and twisty corners means you cant simply rely on the setup of your car, whether for power or handling. You have to be skilled enough to navigate the route, while remembering any imperfections or weird mountain road things like single lane bridges. All the while fighting the pressure of beating the other car, and trying not to focus on the fact that (realistically) one mistake could send you flying off into the trees for your trip down the river Styx.

[@se1un_sky]

Ryosuke said "Sometimes, to be faster, you need to lower te power of engine.

[@bukoran8614]

In a technical course

[@christophercervantes5346]

2:50 *COOL VIBRATIONS*

[@iunnoJustCAD]

I WANNA DANCE

[@HTK256]

The last race was straight out of an initial d episode lmao

[@metaliczic96]

Ah yes Third Stage the movie.

[@LepRECON.]

And then Shingo showed up for the pit maneuver

[@MGdrifts]

I think the reason why lambo was left because of the wheel base. Short wheelbase can turn/manuver easier. For example a car like honda beat can be parked or can do U turn faster/easier than a gtr same principle can be applied here when doing hairpins in irohazaha. 2nd factor is in low speeds Aero/downforce doesn't really matter and huracan was definitely built to turn using its aero/downforce advantage. So in this case i think you should redo this with a different car. How about a lotus exige vs a gt86. I think the exige is the superior supercar in twisty turns.

[@XTR_NEELAN]

last corner gave me tak vs sudo vibes

[@Minato_Akiyama03]

fr

[@bukoran8614]

Well that same corner is where sudo lost

[@MilesPrower1992]

I had someone tell me that a "heavy boat of a car" like a C5 Z06 (3050 lb) could never compete with a lightweight car like a R32 GTR (3150 lb)

[@Icemann336]

They need a reality check, preferably humiliation by C5 Corvette in a stock for stock race down a reasonably fast touge road

[@MilesPrower1992]

@@Icemann336 Not like the person I was talking to could ever get their hands on a GTR

[@Icemann336]

@@MilesPrower1992 Too right, they all cost more than cheap R35s now and at that point, you may as well buy a Cayman, A110 or 4C if you want low weight. That's none of my business though, I drive an 86 and it would probably be more effective to put a Sprintex SC and some Goodyears on it and call it a day

[@Aspen-nf3td]

R32 (V Spec) could probably give C5 Z06 a good run for it's money a on twisty/technical track, mostly with low speed corners. But yeah, it's definitely not a faster car.

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

The famously lightweight GT-R. Also might add the C5 was probably the Corvette generation where the car actually started to corner well (and even then, I think even the prior generation Corvettes usually were a cut above their contemporaries, save for maybe the 70s-early 80s C3s, though pretty much every American car in that period sucked ass).

[@Taz_886]

GT86 : KANATA KATAGIRI LAMBO HURRACAN : DAIGO OISHI

[@smileysekei4645]

What happen to you whatsapp number man

[@bored9145]

The concept started when keiichi tsuchiya started gapping r34's on tight mountain roads with an ae86. Obviously there was a massive skill difference so it is doable if you're good enough or your opponent is slow enough

[@lance153]

It's all about the driver's skill when unlocking a cars true potential.

[@ridhwanramzi4773]

0:12 that alto getting murdered cracked me up

[@quietQX]

as a gt86 owner i can say that this 86 was not using even half of its potential , i have driven my 86 in many twisty roads at 110 kmph and even 132 kmph (if u know how to minimise the acceleration loss in the turns to keep the speed uniform )...

[@Rahhvin]

This driver was practically stopping to look both ways at every corner xD Might have been a better race on Irohazaka with the 86 chasing so that it didn't have to worry about blocking the Lambo. Kept hugging the inside going into the corner, cutting its speed dramatically. ~edit~ because I just remembered the PIT maneuver. Even when the dude was chasing he chose the wrong lines. Oh well.

[@Tombi432]

Awesome. Bought mine last Christmas as it was my dream car for ten years. Had to progress into a 6figure income first, which took a decade. The GT86 teaches you so many things, it's crazy. Love every minute driving it. As usual, only practice in safe environments.

[@alsa4real]

MF Ghost myth confirmed.

[@SBSL-bf8cq]

Because Kanata used Takumi's driving style

[@fqeagles21]

​@@SBSL-bf8cqit's awesome but even with his style IRL wouldn't beat the 488,GT3 Porsche,or AMG, let's be honest

[@SBSL-bf8cq]

@@fqeagles21 ofc

[@tanyguch_kun1330]

its just the drivers of the hypercars in the anime were bad drivers lol

[@PhantomGP01]

Were you going against AI? The 86 driver was overly cautious and didn't take the corners as aggressively as the car would have allowed.

[@kakar0t0_]

just did a mf ghost reference

[@Ezmeon]

I love these story/challenge style videos

[@ironwolf3699]

Give the lambo, sv tires, and the gt86 slicks and the gt86 would destroy the lambo. idk MF Ghost uses grip to weight ratio, whatever that is.

[@SaverioSantorufo-xg7ry]

I wonder how a 200 horsepower 86 will compete with supercars with 500 and over horsepower in mf ghost

[@superwawa1000]

Kanata's 86 was turbocharged

[@ITSMRFOXY]

Idk jewish magic or something

[@sooryan_1018]

3:11 Bro think Keisuke Takahashi battling against God Foot ☠

[@unknowz__]

MF Ghost Moment

[@LimeSlime69]

hey bloke, quick question, when u just wanna be comfortable do you race in first person, hood view, roof cam, or third person? great vid btw ur editing is top notch

[@TSRB]

in VR lmao, and thanks!

[@volk2774]

@@TSRB I am guessing that's a first person

[@fruitygranulizer540]

@@volk2774 yes

[@b.1570]

on Top View

[@wraith4]

Hood view is my favorite if you’re just playing on one monitor

[@MyogiGuardrailerPNG]

The fact that he was trying too basically recreate MFGhost before it was a anime is pretty cool. But, 1 thing about this is that... Kanata would drift and grip constantly. Instead of gripping contantly.

[@GreenRanger090]

and this is why mf ghost relies on power to weight being the same

[@Rahhvin]

It's actually grip to weight, but yes.

[@GreenRanger090]

@@Rahhvin my b, thx for the correction

[@Haze_XD]

Bros racing Kanata rivington 💀💀

[@krio1267]

Bro is NOT Kanata 💀💀

[@goofyahhmf-dr7bz]

mf ghost spoiler fr

[@calebrickard3294]

Calling it a great equalizer is pretty accurate, it brought the lambo way down, but needed a headscarf, but head to head it was a lot closer than it would be on a track, now just put the 86 up against a car that's got half of what the lambo does and it will be even closer

[@confusedredditor1660]

I was thinking you'd make a move around those iroha bridges lol, like sudo. If you really wanted to gt86 to win, you should've picked shomaru pass 💀

[@endergamer7444]

i dont think the huracan's massive ass would even fit through there

[@youtubeaccountlol4942]

This video could have been 10 min longer and I would have watched every second

[@snaky1337]

bro predicted mfgost lol

[@spicyluckster9125]

mf ghost be like

[@jords844]

These roads are just proof that top speed means nothing if you can’t get there fast enough to utilise any sort of “top speed”

[@minigungaming5915]

my brother in christ he closed a 30 second gap in half of a 6 minute course

[@eight-cloudspurple5871]

The cartoon wasnt lying to me?! Its true!??

[@indonesianboyakamei5599]

In this video.. British Keisuke will give a react on a MF Ghost tribute race.

[@hasangarmarudi2178]

You ghosted that mf on akina

[@blazi2293]

[Manifold love intensifies]

[@1nterzept661]

After watching and reading MF Ghost you’ll eventually understand how vital the “Grip-to-Weight Ratio” rule is. The entire premise of the rule is to ensure that driver skill is still a priority and not because you had the best car on the grid. It’s why guys like Ishigami, Aiba, Sakamoto, Oishi, and Akaba struggle to fight against, Beckenbauer, Sawatari and Kanata.

[@Hasanlz2YT]

Bro predicted mf ghost

[@michaelbreckshot6589]

I was racing the new F430 Scuderia on Eiger Nordwand in GT7 recently, I was going in between 3rd and 4th gear constantly and also understeering constantly. And then I done the Jimny Cup race, and it was a lot less cumbersome

[@abhinavsaha8158]

You spoiled MF Ghost 😭😂

[@UsernamerTheFirst]

If an 86 beats you in corners thats just purely skill issue

[@agteika3208]

That 86 forgot to turn on eurobeat music

[@NotRigoroid811]

The red 86 reminds me of the up coming sequel of initial d thats named “MF Ghost” looking forward to it next year

[@yorukitsune6193]

There is white Lambo too in the Manga

[@NotRigoroid811]

@@yorukitsune6193 yes, in short he based the whole thing from MF Ghost

[@mfghost7]

that attempt of overtaking in happoghara before he overtaked him gave me disappearing line vibes

[@ithoughtofthisbefore]

Of course, its the successor of the 86

[@0LD5CHOOL]

theres a reason why you drive like cat and mouse over 2-3 rounds on touge...no overtaking: objective for leader is to stretch out the lead, objective of follower is simply to stay behind. if first round is close, 2nd round will show if the follower, who was able to stay close, is able to increase the gap from the follower. so as follower: stay close, as leader: drive away

[@user-fn1ih9um4f]

MF ghost aint gonna be accurate aint it

[@ZikrySensei]

someone made MFGHOST 86 Race real

[@ytmB4HyU4kUq]

And this my friends, is why AC is better than most racing games out there. I thought GT7 would bring something new to the table, but everything has been pretty lackluster. AC still takes the cake everywhere.

[@siddheshpillai3807]

No shit sherlock

[@luiseduardoperezsoto8327]

Well in initial d the power gap wasn’t so enormous

[@lRedKill3r]

tbf it already was in the unlogical side of things, a 150hp AE86 vs a 380HP R32 whose driver can keep up with one of the fastest racers (Ryosuke) and nearly (probally 0.01 time difference) beat the one who would go on to enter Project D and dominate touge areas with them, and then would go on to beat Shingo later on in a S13 while drifting, which he wasnt at all used to do, yet lost for Takumi anyways, who was on his second race and won because apparently tires worn out in the R32, even though he was using grip instead of drift, unlike Takumi

[@takeuchiitsuki2620]

Nice vid personally think its amazing

[@THE-CRT]

What if you tried a GR86 vs the Lambo?

[@Aspen-nf3td]

Same result. There isn't enough performance difference between GT86 and GR86 to defeat the lamborghini.

[@SBSL-bf8cq]

I know Toyota 86 can't beat Lamborghini but if in MF Ghost then Kanata can beat Lamborghini with his 86

[@leonardoluchici704]

I can confidently say that the gt86 looked more like it was cruising rather than actually going for a race. I can confirm though, that corners make a big difference, for example on a corner I was up the bumper of a new 150k $ M3 competition the g80 with my 110 horsepower 1.5 liter NA subaru impreza hatchback with awd from 2009. The bimmer struggled to put the power down and I was at its bumper like glue for 3/4 of the corner the rear was trying to slide out while I was gaining on the bimmer even more at 120. but as soon as that corner straightened out even at the slightest bit the bimmer was just gone, thats 510 horsepower for you. I must say this, but had he floored it from before the corner would not have brought me much of an edge due to the car being too powerful. In other words, this video is telling the harsh thruth. In some corners you can gain ground, but if the car is a dedicated sports car it can actually do some damage (as in leaving you choking its dust)

[@rakula8328]

1:11 that gutter run tho 🤤

[@momslayer2184]

you kidding right haven't you seen the miata getting into those gutters 💀

[@ren_03]

Imagine driving a Bugatti Chiron Vision GT and getting beaten by a 1980s Toyota AE86 with just upgraded brakes and rally suspensions.

[@lukygame]

It is interesting reading the comments I myself am an 86 lover at heart but being able to beat a lambo is just impossible for the little GT86 (Shocker, I know) Even in this video the only reason it won was kind of just because it could block on the narrow road Not really because it was faster Don't get me wrong not giving your opponent a chance to overtake also takes skill and is an important part of racing, but that is not the idea here Takumi also didn't block the road on straights I would still choose to drive an 86 over a lambo though 1.The lambo is THICC at least compared to the 86 so the road seems thin and just difficult 2.It's power is kind of it's downfall You could never truly open up the throttle on the Touge Obviously throttle control is also an important skill, but I am talking about pure fun and fooling around 3.While possible it is risky and difficult to drift a lamborghini while an 86 is probably the easiest choice These do not apply to games but still might as well point them out 4.The Lambo's probably got a V12 (Not a lamborghini expert) while the 86 has a Boxer 4 While Subaru isn't exactly known for fuel economy the 8 more cylinders are gonna be very hungry Something to consider with today's petrol prices 5.Reliability and cost Lamorghini: an Italian supercar Toyota: a Toyota While Boxer engines add to maintanence costs it's still gonna be less than a lamborghini And being Japanese after a while of constant use it is still gonna work Also you won't have to worry about scratching it up as much Those are the reasons why I like the 86 more I'm sure the Lamborghini has it's upsides For example Girls wil instantly hop into a lamborghini, not the case with a Toyota Also just pure performance I just preffer the 86 because in my opinion on the twisty mountain or country roads it can provide just as much fun and excitement (Please excuse any spelling mistakes made in this comment as English is not my First language) God I have basiclly written up an essay here I just love talking about and comparing cars Anyways nice video Also thanks for stopping with the weird looking cars movie inspired thumbnails Maybe someone liked it I didn't

[@pccc5431]

this straight up giving me MF Ghost vibes with the thumbnail

[@NateTheDragonoidAlicorn]

Is there such thing as a GT85?

[@h5skb4ru41]

SRB is put simply an Amateur, he really can't get the best of the Lamborghini because... he really needs to understand Midships don't behave like 4WDs with front engines. In the first corner of Akina you entered too narrow, apexed too early and panic braked causing understeer, which only increased the gap for the 86. In the end it was the horsepower that saved the day as soon you got into the longest straight (I'm sure that without any mistakes you would've been able to overtake around the skate park straight) You need some more practice on Akina to be honest... trailing sessions can do wonders to learn tracks and do wonders to improve someone's understanding of the track. Irohazaka however... I can forgive that one, specially when the Lamborghini's 600hp really aren't useful there, the 86 pretty much was leading all the time and could effectively close the door whenever it wanted. So the most fair race would be cat and mouse style, specially considering the Lamborghini was way too big for the track compared to the 86. If you want a more fair comparison use the Tsukuba fruits line (last initial d stage) it has a good mixture of straights, turns and is balanced for both vehicles. As a matter of fact... I've been able to ride the ass of a F430 in a 2007 STI, no sweat.

[@blackmullet6237]

That pit maneuver was dirty, the 86 driver should have seen you go to towards the blind spot and brake. They must be a Shoji fan

[@Mayank_Maximum]

0:13 perfect example why suzuki alto 1.1 is best car ever

[@sumdumguy6449]

Pov: the upcoming mf ghost anime

[@katori.mp4647]

that pit maneuver was real good

[@awdrifter3394]

2:31 come on, take the invisible line!

[@sof3953]

MFG GT86: idk what to put here

[@rawrbrz]

i wish in mf ghost theyd at least do some crazy shit like have him engine swap it and swap out the suspension and wheels to the point where it potentially could be competative with a lambo

[@metaliczic96]

Kanata 86GT will get the upgrades, but not as extreme as engine swap. More like Bolt-On Turbo upgrade & of course suspension/brakes as well.

[@gaelortega7637]

It would have been golden if ya overtook the 86 with a Irohazaka jump

[@nakazatoforger.2666]

well, it's kinda hard to do the irohazaka jump with that Lambo that big,since the body is huge and AWD,so the lambo can't gain control and crashed.But if you catch up in the end of irohazaka like kyoichi does before the third bridge, it's possible.

[@Slowbaru89]

The 86 will do it better

[@Kangiru_Noah]

this feels like a mf ghost battle

[@jansitohehehe]

Hello TSRB community! I just wanted to ask something. How do I race with someone else (basically multiplayer) in a private server or map? I really want to race with friends just like in this video.

[@technohead4068]

Use lemehost. Its free!

[@jansitohehehe]

@@technohead4068 Hmmm Ok, seems helpful, thanks! I'll check it out. Any other recommendations or tips?

[@Barulio06]

straight lines are for fast cars corners are for fast drivers

[@ArtBoneOFFICIAL]

3:25 bro tried pulling a third stage

[@ralphdoria]

I realized half way through the video that this wasn't real life

[@faris3884]

Hello,could you possibly make a video on your Assetto Corsa graphic settings(which PP filter,what mods and settings you have)

[@SPARTEN007]

The monster isn't under the hood but behind the wheel

[@DarthVader-1701]

The AI can't drive like a razor sharp mad man, a human can.

[@afrosenshi5623]

was just thinkin about this after watching the mf ghost trailer, i was mad bewildered at the thought of a supercar like a lambo on the touge.

[@smileysekei4645]

2:51 remind me old initial d arcade stage irohazaka ai move 💀

[@akeno6752]

MF ghost reference

[@l_o_n_e_l_y__k_u_n6128]

I just check it Im wondering how well GT 86 hold up against E30 M3 though

[@bruh-tl5hy]

Pov:u just done watching mf ghost

[@sirafoxtron1701]

1:11 Lambo on gutter run?

[@fxzmythus]

IMHO MFG intentionally weakens all super cars by the Ryosuke's tire rule. This is the core logic to support all 86 supremacy fantasy. And a relatively flexible one.

[@heroichitsuji]

No no, you forgot the most important factor. IRL I destroy cars 8 years newer and 3x more powerful than mine. The missing factor is fear, those guys have something to lose, and my distinct lack of it. /s

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

You forgot the Eurobeat music. GT86 would've get free win easily

[@metaliczic96]

Came here after watched the newest MV Ghost anime PV trailer.

[@jannzerochannel]

Probably hard to make a conclusion but not sure if this would be a valid real world reference but the civic type r (300hp) destroys some super cars with 500hp or more at the Nur in terms of lap times. So I guess superb handling and a good power to weight ratio can pull it off.

[@LightGesture]

Center of gravity. A stock rx8 will run the same lap times as an ls swap on a track. Lower center of gravity, less weight, less body movement = consecutive speeds through out

[@Aspen-nf3td]

The short answer is: no, the civic doesn't destroy 500hp supercars on the Nurburging. Long answer: The supercar laps were done with older and slower tyres. There is also a possibility that many of those laps weren't done officially with professional drivers and with intent to push the cars to their full potential. So with these factors considered, it's no wonder the civic (and other modern laps of 300hp cars) can do "faster" times.

[@jannzerochannel]

@@Aspen-nf3td short reply : could be true but the posts were marketed as versus official lap times. Long reply : Meaning there is also a high posibility that these 500hp supercars were driven by professional test drivers that to a significant extent capable of pushing these cars to the limit. Plus we are not talking about a faked top speed run thru gps or other means, I am pretty sure there are less facets to fake performance especially when we speak about lap times in the nur. Plus even for someone like me who has never raced in the nur, it is highly plausible for a more better handling 300hp car to outpace a 500hp supercar with less handling conaidering that mathematically speaking, if the type r can be faster by even just .5 seconds in every corner in the nur then by the time you reach the final straight, the time difference could be enough to compensate for top speed. And as commented by light gesture, the science of center of gravity on a track that is predominantly technical does make a difference.

[@Aspen-nf3td]

@@jannzerochannel I'm not sure about all the times, but a Gallardo one for example is not official, because it was done by a motorsport magazine. You can check that. In-fact a lot of the lap times you see were done by magazines, not officially by manafacturers. A good example of such lap is the (in)famous R34 GT-R lap that you may be aware of. It's 100% possible for a 300hp to out-pace a 500hp car on Nurburging, however it's not certain if the Civic has a lower center of gravity than a Gallardo and even if it had, that wouldn't be the only important factor. What we are certain of is that it's not incredibly light, it is FF and it probably doesn't pull off terribly high amouth of downforce. Even if it was faster through corners than a Gallardo given that both cars would be using same tyres, it still wouldn't be a big enough difference due to not having the meanings to make a big enough difference.

[@erdemeebilgee3584]

I remember a post on an FB group comparing takumi's 86 to a Mclaren F1 and people were actually voting 86 LOL in all honesty if it was a fair race (both of the cars starting at the same time) the 86 would get smoked by basically anything that isnt a shitbox. Like anything the same level or better than an impreza or an evo

[@bolson42]

It’s so weird to me, most of the people who think the 86 is an insane super car basically know nothing about the car. Like even just from watching initial d they make it clear that the car is severely underpowered and not meant for racing. So I genuinely don’t know who thinks that, any 86 or initial d fans should know better.

[@erdemeebilgee3584]

@@bolson42 majority of them were saying 86 would smoke the F1 LMFAO a rusty old 90s shitbox beating the worlds fastest hypercar. When i commented "the Mclaren is gonna some the 86" salty 8 yr olds were arguing with me LOL

[@bolson42]

@@erdemeebilgee3584 What’s even weirder is the fact that children are using facebook, completely opposite demographic

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@bolson42 Gotta disagree with 'not meant for racing' when they remained a competitive race car well into the 90s despite ending production in the mid-80s. Compared to cars like the Golf Mk.2, Civic AT/EF/EG, Corolla AE82/92 and similar they always competitive; But that's the thing, 1600cc race cars don't beat Sierras, Skylines or Supras unless the points system awards points by class like BTCC did, which allowed Corollas to be outright winners in the championship despite being a lot slower than M3s or Sierras. And no, I'm not considering the BP Trueno from JGTC to be an AE86, although it might be the last example of that silhouette in top-tier racing.

[@bolson42]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Ok, sorry i didn’t really mean it that way. I meant it wasn’t meant for high performance racing, not racing in general. Obviously it was a sporty racing trim, and was used in a lot of rally or circuit races in japan at the time. But it just doesn’t compare to the higher performance cars around the same era. What made it so great was it’s affordability, weight balance, and just being a really fun car at the time

[@joegomez5463]

As an Initial D fan, I knew this would only end one way. You would have to be an even SLIGHTLY worse driver than the GT86er to lose. Many times, initial D showed that takumi outclassed the drivers in terms of sheer driving skill, and that the gap between drivers was bigger (or narrower for more similar cars, but more skilled drivers.) Takumi had high high skill, but a weak car. Some people had GREAT cars, but lower skill. Some people had similar skill and better cars, some had better and similar cars etc. Fact is, once someone whith at least COMPARABLE skill cane up against Takumi, it was always some BS as to why he won. Then, you have characters like God Hand, who in my head canon beat takumi anyway. The race against Bunta was the best showcase for more power and better skill left takumi dumped, even on windy roads. Evo gang showed the first level of realism where, once it was an absolute straight away issue, no way Takumi's car was gonna overtake / keep up. Initial D seems rooted pretty well in reality, and constantly showcased / said the eight six was a fine car, but a super car it was not, nor would it have won every single (officcial) race without magic plot armor. Before bunta wiped the floor with Takumi, he was even like "Man, if it werent for those leaves, I'd have been toast!"

[@TheReaper7371]

PLEASE, DO THIS AGAIN IN A LONGER FORMAT.

[@karimskywalker3148]

bro just make an anime💀

[@jvramos4849]

how do you make a private multiplayer server with your friend??

[@andys__6601]

yo man so as a first personal car does a hyundai veloster 2012 inspire manual sound good?

[@arsen932]

the mario kart music :D love it

[@NkazimuloMsimango-km7qv]

did bro predict mf ghost?

[@canaryellow.]

NANI?! HACHI-ROKU?

[@muhammadryanelyeddari8631]

I mean this was kinda proved wrong Irl with a 200 HP MR2 and a 170 HP AE86 having faster times than 500+ HP R35s on a stint of Gunsai with many corners. Granted they were both beat by 2 highly tuned ultra light 700 HP cars on race tyres but only by a few 10ths of a second.