This VR Sim outperforms Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024!

[@SabrinaBraden-n7n]

This sim deserves support for the developers, i just hope it gets better weather control, like real world weather implemented.

[@desitterspace10101]

In built real world weather would be great, but there is a mod that easily ports real world weather into the sim. Available on the forums. The devs have said they plan to implement in the future.

[@SabrinaBraden-n7n]

@@desitterspace10101 Thanks for the information, another move that would benefit them also is VATSIM support. Fingers crossed.

[@ryanwood4312]

They need to release the telemetry support for SIMHUN. Then it is a instant buy.

[@tuiastro]

Thanks for a nice review. Eye tracking (using a normal webcam) allows users with standard PCs to navigate through the simulator cockpit, similar to what VR offers but less immersive. When you turn your head or move nearer/faraway, the view of the cockpit change accordingly. This allows you use mouse to select any button/dial/switch easily. I would recommend for those who don't have VR systems yet.

[@uberdenwolken4564]

„It is not as beautiful as MSFS“… but at least it runs! Stutter free and with way much higher resolutions. Its my go to when I‘m frustrated again with Asobos bs.

[@dtrjones]

MSFS 2024 is stutter free and stunning to look at in VR. I agree though, if you don't have a powerful system or can't be bothered to optimise then this is more accessible.

[@abeman5855]

@@dtrjonesIt is common knowledge that msfs 2024 in vr is stuttering and inconsistent, even with the latest hardware

[@dtrjones]

@ I have to admit though with the latest DLSS 4 drivers from Nvidia, I am now getting stutters. I don't think it's entirely MSFS fault though.

[@NightFlyyer]

Hello, Laubox. We love this sim too. You did a great job of explaining it. I have forwarded it to the Aerofly developers. Thanks for making this and Happy flying.

[@tasercs]

The VR hand interaction are the sort of advances we all expected from FS2024. What we actually got was vastly inferior to FS2020, with no fixes promised till a minimum of June in Sim Update 2

[@pinkostv]

This game is awesome and underrated.I’ve used this in VR ,you can pick a airline route and let the copilot fly it and look out the window as a passenger .the only downside is no addons but they give you ones for free.

[@jinxterx]

It's not a game.

[@fredericsidler]

Great info. Many thanks.

[@laubox]

Aerofly FS 4 - Not many have tried it - but what do you think about this VR sim?

[@mene3337]

It's the best of the best. I only have 10 hours in and i am shocked. You can see the dust on the instruments, the detail is insane.

[@laubox]

@@mene3337 Awesome! I clocked 60 hours now in Aerofly!

[@marathi22]

It's a cool sim, have both 2 and 4, but I'm sorry, none of them hold a candle to MSFS unless you are on an older and weaker system.

[@psour33]

It was built for this.

[@misterchippie]

It is quick to load, smooth as butter even on a lower-end system, fully interactive in VR, global streaming scenery, the airliner systems are modelled enough to do a cold and dark take off and ILS approach and landing, everything just works, I've never had a crash to desktop - what's not to like?! Ok, it's missing a few key things like multiplayer, ATC, Vatsim integration, passenger loading / ground crew operations - but for a quick to jump in fix, without having to set up all your yokes and throttles and so on and so forth - I love it.

[@JDVVV378]

I love this sim for VR for mountain areas like the Grand Canyon. It’s have a great performance in VR.

[@Bellthorian]

What frustrates me about Aerofly FS going all the way back to 2 is the Devs put out this AMAZING product and than they don't do anything with it. It COULD have been the dominant sim on the market but they just don't develop and support the product once it is released. They just move onto their next sim.

[@jacqueskloster4085]

we need a hybrid solution vr gloves (for haptic feedback) so we can use our hands to operate the cockpit and a HOTAS solution to be able to fly like a sane person. Anything that isn't a fly by wire plane, IMHO is not really operatable in aerofly FS4 with either the virtual stick or using the analogue sticks of the controllers. It also takes out the immersion for me.

[@ACDC84016]

I don't understand why some kind of hand tracking couldn't be used in headsets like the Q3. Admittedly there wouldn't be haptic feedback on switches, but it would be nice to fly with a HOTAS, but operate switches with your hands.

[@VilleVaananen]

I​t is possible in MSFS and DCS, so why not in Aerofly? @@ACDC84016

[@shillcreativeworkshop]

In the time it takes for MSFS VR to load up. You could already be flying in Areofly. I have both of them. This is an excellant VR flight sim. It works amazingly well.

[@leoui5081]

Mate I have a quest 2 with a Ryzen 2700 and a 1660ti. Would my PC run it ok would you know? Cheers =)

[@kj908studio]

@@leoui5081 Maybe on lowest settings good thing about buying a game off Steam if it wont work on your system you can always get your money back!

[@maddietourmaline46]

The best thing about this by far is the planes, what an incredible selection

[@joecserna]

FS4 is my go to for sims. There is a dev kit to download and import google maps to your favorite regions. With my Oculus Rift it is almost perfect immersion.

[@Prifly70]

Same, I use ny Rift S. How can I find that? IS it the global data thing that it already has?

[@joecserna]

@ i can’t seem to reply to you. Can you see this?

[@beyondfossil]

The virtual hands are amazing! The immersion will be incredible as we get to use controls exactly as they are with each *specific* aircraft! The only thing that may be needed are physical rudder pedals to get the most realistic virtual cockpit flying experience. But a rudder can be easily attached via USB and the rudder is always located at one's feet anyways _regardless_ of the plane.

[@abtechgroup]

and how do you operate the rudder pedals?

[@poolhallshark]

Excellent question 😂👍👍

[@laubox]

I have my own rudder pedals connected, but you can also use the joystick on your vr controllers to operate the rudder pedals.

[@poolhallshark]

@@laubox 👌👍

[@frankfrati4]

More controllers taped to your feet! 😂

[@Reynard_11]

@@laubox Yeah, just like you said 1:30 😒

[@NIGELHORTON-l1x]

VR in FS4 is the best VR experience in any flight sim and I have them all Xplane MSFS 2020/2024 the others should learn a lesson

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

And aerofly is behind in most areas. No cities. No satellite data. No plane add-ons. No realistic airfields. It's great for the price, but it's not in the same league as msfs.

[@carlcat]

I would have liked to see how cities looked and other structures throughout the world. Would have liked to see the weather and cloud effects as well as city night time scenes.

[@laubox]

Cities and structures look way worse than msfs 2024 - But from high up in the skies it looks great.

[@bugrist]

Yeah the price should reflect such lack of quality. C'mon it's 2025!

[@dazzer1696]

Yep, Ive got all the flight sims and FS4, as good as it is from high up views (graphically), when down near the ground the detail is very low, much lower when compared to MSFS 2020/2024 and its not using satellite data either.

[@darrellc8366]

@@bugristlack of quality? How many flight simulators have you written?

[@bugrist]

@@darrellc8366 quality of terrain, that is.

[@pilotman999]

Hi! Good video! What system are you using? Specs? Thanks!

[@jJustPlayingNZ]

This is my preference. You can run it offline too, no need to go online if you just fly around Europe and USA. When Windows 10 dies in October I will be taking my PC's offline and running some offline racing sims and FS4 form then on until something gets released that I really want that also runs offline. Then I will go online to download it and then go back offline. I've pretty much had it with having to be online all the time.

[@baccarah7010]

Also try VTOL VR if you want something like this but a combat flight sim

[@robertalan4717]

VTOL-VR is a masterpiece. I wasted money on this sim because I thought it would be similar. The flight model and the lack of programmable HOTAS functions sucks.

[@therealsourc3]

VTOL-VR is great, but it's very arcade-y. Try DCS instead if you want a better view and more realism

[@chieftain_joe8569]

What a great video! Your videos from Aerofly FS4 were what made me get my own VR headset last year - and I haven't regretted it one bit! I must say I quickly switched to VTOL VR, though, as it was just simpler to learn all the (much simplified) controls. But now I really want to get back into FS4. Can you maybe give me some pointers how to learn and get started? Unfortunately there are no real ingame tutorials and reading guide after guide is a LOT to take in. Watching you flying an A320 and (apparently) known what to do all the time is exactly what I want to be able to do - but can you give me a few hints how to get there? Naturally, watching your videos has already helped me a lot :-) But I'm not quite there yet that I can simply get my VR headset, plan a route, and perform a complete cold and dark start, flight, and landing. I know there are great guides on the official website, but how do you memorize all of that? Anyway I want to add your content is really great - I've watched most if not all of your Aerofly videos by now and enjoyed every single one of them!

[@laubox]

Hi Chieftain, That is so great to hear! I am happy you are not regretting your VR purchase - As VTOL is great, it is true that Aerofly is harder to get into. If you go the official aerofly website they have tutorials on how to start the plane and some other tutorials aswell. These helped me a lot!

[@chieftain_joe8569]

@@laubox Thank you so much for your feedback! Any tipps how to best get the checklists in the VR cockpit? The aerofly tutorials are phenomenal content wise but it's really hard to memorize all of it, at least for a beginner like me

[@TheLDunn1]

The Helicopter, looks like you start off at the top of the Schilthorn in Switzerland, the building is a rotating restaurant which was used in a 007 movie, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service I think. This is located near the Village of Murren, which is across the Lauterbrunnen valley from Wengen, which is under the mountain peaks, Eiger, Jungfrau & Monch.

[@JD-qd1bp]

I’ve had this for a while and it’s pretty good. Great if you just want a quick flight without all the hassle of the other sims. I’ve got MSFS 2020 and x-plane 12, mainly fly in x-plane. Given up with MSFS 2024 for now, will probably purchase it when the marketplace is open and more of the bugs have been quashed. I would play Aerofly more if the developers introduced real weather and ATC but I understand it’s a small development team and neither of these items are likely to be added any time soon. Apparently the flight characteristics of the helicopters are very highly praised if that’s your thing…

[@uberdenwolken4564]

Aerofly FS 4 is the best VR flight sim ever. I also found it just sole months ago and was sooooo impressed that nearly nobody knows it. The VR performance ist the best out there. (Besides Condor Soaring which is for Gliders only)

[@laubox]

Thanks for your comment Uber - yep, I am still flabbergasted we don't see this fligth simulator appear on more KZbin Channels - especially on VR channels as it just runs incredible well.

[@TaigiTWeseDiplomatFormosan]

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[@realdroniboi]

i have over 150 hours in aerofly fs4. i also have the same amount of time in xplane 11 and 12. aerofly is the best real flight sim for vr right now. navigation is super user friendly for people who are learning and can fly (but cant program a boeing and airbus flight computer). I just wish it had real weather so that places you fly always have different conditions. You can set conditions but its all manual. I also wish there was ATC and IFR

[@laubox]

I agree with everything you say here!

[@steeltribe3967]

Looks great. Seems like hand tracking should work well, did you try it?

[@graw777]

WOW!... I'm truly impressed. I need this!

[@sYd6point7]

just needs to get the weather effects in like VTOLVR just did and we are rocking!

[@andrebrizan511]

I have to say that for vr, this game is much better. I wish they added more dlcs and a few more tutorials. The vr experience is 1000x better.

[@NextWorldVR]

There might be some adult mods on Nexus Mods. How many Dics do you want added?

[@TitaniumDR1]

Very nice. It's like Vtol. I think I speak for everyone when I say it would be so nice if a single game would get its complete act together. All the parts are in various games but no single game has it all put together correctly. They need to get accurate "no controller hand tracking with cockpit button pushing" dialed in perfectly. They're getting there but it's not very immersive. Make some tactile gloves that don't cost 5 grand.

[@TheOneTrueJack]

Wow. That is shockingly impressive. How the hell have I never even heard of this?

[@dieglhix]

I would absolutely love a civilian helicopter mission sim. Rescuing, cranes, etc.

[@jimj2683]

Just using VR controllers is the future. Would ideally need some haptic gloves and motion sim for the arms.

[@NecroViolator]

When will they EVER make a car game where you can make money ingame and buy more cars/trucks and drive ALL the streets ????

[@DaveBrown1]

I played with this many years ago and the performance was brill, way above anything else. This is how MS2024 should be, 90fps no messing around. Thanks for the info.

[@RolandDobbins]

I get 90fps in MSFS2024 VR, FYI.

[@TheOriginalCoda]

@@RolandDobbins You need to qualify that statement.

[@DaveBrown1]

@@RolandDobbins Only in your dreams!

[@RolandDobbins]

@ - you have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s vey straightforward with modern hardware.

[@chrisdude2675]

wow thought it was a only HOTAS game, added to my wish list cause it has VR controls.

[@lancemurdoc6744]

I use it to fly R22 in expert mode. I use VR in combination with maxxflightstick controls of an R22. It is challenging but it is extremly satisfying to land the Helikopter. It is pretty close to the real mashine.

[@lindablaire5449]

There was a game back in the 1980s called. Mach iii I believe. It was an arcade game using laser disk. The game used real life footage of the ground. It's now 2025. And we have the same thing. Smh. Progress lol

[@Cellinsky-2302]

Its very good at vr performance and has the best vr manipulation in any sim. FMs are very good too. If I miss something, then it's a better light and weather system. The current one makes it look like a 90is sim, wich is completely wrong impression. Other than that, I like it very much.

[@dominodoggy1]

I want more VR flight games for my PS5/VR2 and I'm not sure why there aren't more.

[@Flysmith72]

This looks amazing - does it support the most common hardware controllers, like the Honeycomb yoke and throttle?

[@MarkRiddellRacing]

Sure does. I’m using it with Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo.

[@steves9045]

@@MarkRiddellRacing great, thanks!

[@kermit634]

I love this simulator because I have an Apple Mac mini. The Simulation runs flawless and I love that you can push all the Buttons and you get the feedback. Can I ask what kind of VR you are using ?

[@maddietourmaline46]

7:40 "if we do it right, we can put the thing down where it belongs" followed by a HARD cut... uh oh

[@bmartins1974]

Nice makes one want buy a VR KIT!

[@TandemWithFlo]

how about the rudder pedals? how do you control those?

[@TestPilotN911RG]

This was designed for VR from the beginning. Their FS2 was just as good. The problem was their aircraft flight physics. Feels arcade like… but has always looked amazing.

[@megabitegaming9655]

I love aerofly the standard airports are stunning compared to msfs 24 and performance is absolutely amazing

[@weeliano]

It definitely runs way smoother than FS2020 in VR mode. Just a pity it doesn't have all the Global scenery.

[@PureMatteo]

Maybe you should realize you can’t have both! This sim is slooth but it’s not running mods and global scenery with thousands of live players etc. Also no weather system. It’s normal these products are different and it doesn’t look as good, trade offs have to be made.

[@weeliano]

@@PureMatteo True, I zoomed around in a F-15 Strike eagle in New York between the skyscrapers at insane speeds and low altitude, the sense of speed is incredible. MS FS2020 cannot achieve that kind of smoothness and performance.

[@NightFlyyer]

This is a fantastic sim for only $59 on steam. Fun to fly.

[@DanFrederiksen]

Never heard of it, looks pretty good. Is the flight model good? does it feel responsive/realistic? are there smaller planes or only airliners

[@cdvries]

How do you operate the foot paddles?

[@soaringeagle]

Is the soaring weather realistic with thermals and waves and ridge lift? I am only interested in the gliders. It’s the only way to fly.

[@mikimosky4109]

With my rtx 3070 and quest 3 i can't even run smooth msfs 2020 at low settings, but with aerofly fs 4 i can run at almost high settings and with high framerate. Smooth gameplay, nice graphics and cool looking scenary when youre up in the sky, but if u come down u will notice the poor detail of real landscape that only msfs 2020 got.

[@istvanszabo3275]

Cool, until you realize, that planes can't freaking stall

[@Reynard_11]

Is that so? Well then...😂

How is the system depth in the aircraft? Do you for instance put your route into the FMC with SIDs and STARs and the aircraft will then fly the route in VNAV and LNAV? Or is this simulator more to be seen as a game maybe?

[@radoslawbiernacki]

He is able to fly's heli without pedals. This is a good answer which can be extrapolated to other systems ;)

[@MarkRiddellRacing]

You can start cold and dark and program it from scratch.

[@jlgabrielv]

@@radoslawbiernacki He is able, because he is using a simplified mode in Aerofly FS4. If you disable this mode, you need pedals. There it is a training helicopter station based in Aerofly sim.

[@choppergirlfpv]

I want to see more glider and cockpit helicopter footage Maybe take it off easy mode and learn the start up procedures for both and demostrate. Price is 59 on Steam plus the VR goggles and controllers and a high end gaming rig... your main hefty cost.

[@starvr]

That just annoys me, when they say "I've got a good PC", no, you have a effin Monster PC. I have a good PC (4070 and 5950x), and it looks nothing like that in VR. (Yes, I am extremely jealous) Got a spare 4090 hanging around? LMAO

[@stephenselby4252]

How do they do the foot pedals?

[@jay6817]

Turn resolution down on MSFS, and it's similar. VR hand tracking is good in this, but i prefer hardware controllers.

[@desitterspace10101]

I combine the TM Airbus side stick/thrust levers with the hand controller. I actually prefer this to level-D sims, it is just mind blowing how realistic this feels at max settings with a powerful rig. Even a low end rig would be great. My FS2020/24 setup just doesn't compare (i9 with a 4090) I stick to Fenix A320 for system failures.

[@braneden]

This looks very clear and I like the lighting. Have they made some updates to this as I looked at a few other videos one from melbourne florida and one from Minneapolis they were both very blurry. Then Washington DC was very clear. I haven't moved to 2024 yet but I would definitely try this if everything was this crisp and great lighting potential. Also how I the weather coverage?

[@braneden]

As far as lighting I meant you can see very far. msfs 2020 has a weird scum I'd like to scrape off there. Here if you added a touch of contrast or a few filters this could be really neat I bet as far a visibility and beauty

[@michaelrandold4656]

So any computer that supports vr and a quest 3 and this will run?

[@Lord_of_ChaoSan]

It'd be neat if they added in the ability to have Dog Fights. Or maybe they do?

[@d1o2n4]

How good would it be, when flying at night, to have UAP’s appear at random times. Or a setting, box you can check.

[@cvdvds]

Heard about this one but had no idea it worked so well in VR. Might have to check it out. The weak graphics are a double edged sword however. Much better framerates than MSFS but also much more boring looking. Being able to turn up the resolution compared to MSFS sounds great though.

[@MrMontanaNights]

I suspect that you'd get just as good framerates in MSFS2020 or 2024 if you turned the graphics down to match the ones in this. I already get 40fps in 2024 VR, but it required a good bit of tinkering around with the settings.

[@mwestmo]

How do you work the pedals in VR?

[@martinschmidt5541]

Yea - Icarus - a small company from germany producing very nice RC and PC Flightsimulators !!

[@douglasgui892]

Can't beat German engineering. 😊

[@GraphicArtsSuperHighway]

What VR are you using and what do you use for hand tracking? Great Video! Thanks :-)

[@laubox]

In this video I just used the Quest 3

[@shinkicker404]

What is it like systems depth wise? Updating navdata? live weather?

[@bradule1980]

Great sim. Waiting for more texture coverage of terrain around the world. Only some parts have decent textures.

[@laubox]

True! The alps do have great texture coverage in general!

[@glennbyford4037]

How do you get the blue hands free set up on quest 3 please?

[@ParadiseDecay]

Noice!

[@dtrjones]

I think I'll stick with MSFS 2024 to be honest. Performance is great for me. 4090 and butter smooth - high settings - Quest 3. Never been a fan of VR controllers in a flight sim. I would say though if hand tracking could be implemented that would be great. Happy to use my HOTAS/Yoke and mouse and keyboard. The way I see it, it's less friction that way and the only think which would come close to being accessible would be using my hands directly onto the virtual cockpit. The thought of not using a real yoke or taking my hands off a real yoke to pickup a VR controller to interact with the cockpit doesn't feel right at all.

[@yak-machining]

4090 and VR is a good choice for msfs24? I have i7-12700kf and rtx 4070 with quest3 and it's absolutely unplayable in quest3 VR 😢

[@dtrjones]

@@yak-machining It's definately not. I've played using a 3070 with a Quest 3 and I had it running well. Are you using VD/VDXR, motion reprojection and DLSS? Settings should be Low/Medium, but the experience should be decent.

[@yak-machining]

@@dtrjones i don't like that virtual Desktop doesn't support link cable, so no I don't use it. I've set everything else to low and still it is warping and stuttering and looking extremely horrible. Msfs 2020 works fine

[@SonofthewindsInc]

Not bad... hesitant buying FS 20204 asked questions about loading entire scenery to run off my SSD drives and not the clou...my internet is not great

[@ElSarcastro]

If only you could have a copilot VTOL VR style in any of the serious VR flight sims. Would love to fly a B767 or something with my bro

[@soaringeagle]

How do you work the Rudder

[@galaxytraveler5779]

Not a fan of VR at all, but this looks pretty damn impressive. I haven't played FS for like 12 years..

[@RevFilmore]

Needs a Heatblur Tomcat though. No really, I see the point in the control immersion, but you won't have fine control like with a HOTAS. I guess you can have both, but let's see how this develops.

[@marcosavila8215]

the no physical flight stick or throttle would never work for me but besides that i didn't even know about this sim, that's how Good MS is by trying to hide these developers, looks amazing

[@desitterspace10101]

You can use hardware, I use this in VR with a full home cockpit setup. I still use the right hand controller for overhead panel and entering data into the MCDU on the airbus. Crystal clear and smooth as silk

[@gregorydarden7868]

I gotta try this🤔

[@BellatrixLugosi]

which is better in vr perfomance? xplane 12 or aerofly fs 4?

[@arvrinnovate113]

Can you explain how this game is accessed - via PC? - what is the connecting lead called?

[@windgods1414]

Will try Aerofly FS 4 today, thanks ! To start with, 2024 has NO controller or even mouse interaction in VR during flight mode, acts broken, still broken, Sad because 2020 finally fixed VR interaction problems in the last patch before releasing 2024.

[@laubox]

Awesome! Happy flying!

[@Lonsome1223]

What about rudder pedals can you programme the FMC and radio's.

[@desitterspace10101]

Yes to proagraming MCDU/FMC. You can use your own real world pedals and flight controls.

[@NE-76]

Aerofly FS4!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@arenam79]

you had me sold on it until i saw the price tag, maybe next sale if it shows up. I've been burnt by too many VR games. yea i know i can return but less than 2hrs isn't enough to judge a game

[@laubox]

yeah, it has a bit of a steep Pricing! Perhaps wait for a sale!

[@thermaldetinatorsonly8857]

I want a space simulator without keyboard controlls too 😮

[@Fromatic]

Are you using actual hand tracking or the quest hand controllers to operate the controls inside the aircraft?

[@neilfb08]

I'd love to be able to design some grass strips for this sim for the UK, -Neil's Farm Strips

[@bigrivercod]

@laubox which headstrap/batterystrap are you using with the Quest3?

[@laubox]

This is the Kiwi Design headstrap

[@MrBBaron]

What all do I need to get and the cost to set up this sim as featured in this video. I am interested in getting this product and support items.

[@Motorschirm]

And the best are the VERY FAST loading times ... 10% of waiting time of Asob0 :) ;) And no crashes !

[@elliotcurrie7143]

Love it, ive got about 500 hrs so far, but it's a little choppy running on my i7 Dell Precision Laptop- I have to dial things pretty far down. I'd love to experience it on a more powerful PC, and i wish there were in-game systems tutorials

[@dieselphiend]

Does the headset tracking not have a smoothing option? I would think so. The noise (essentially) is quite pronounced.

[@olzzon]

Is this standalone with the quest or are you on a pc ?

[@thehighwayman78]

And it's not overexposed like msfs VR!

[@SharperthanA]

It is quite better if you consider/want to avoid the issues running msf

[@nicholasfarrow2478]

Can you fly all over the world or is the sim limited to certain regions etc?

[@daxwax1]

I was sold at the flight engineers station on the Concorde. RIP MSFS.

[@lucastroncoso5090]

Can you see your phone while piloting? It would be mindblowing, please answer!

[@davidmorrow3871]

Looks great but does it have "mission steps"