DCS F-4E Phantom | Too REAL for VIRTUAL REALITY! | Pimax Crystal

[@laubox]

Check out the F4E in VR in Action in the newest upload: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKamdauYh9CqY7c

[@elusivelectron]

Do you have a yoke or joystick?

[@rudyyarbrough5122]

I'm an old Marine F-4B pilot and missed seeing the angle of attack being on. I used that almost all of the time during any transition just to know where the speed was in relation to stall. Man! Seeing that old bird again made me feel at home! The B model was not nearly as modern as the E model but the plane and basic instruments were the same. Our RIO or Wizzo in the Air Force, did not have a stick like the E model. The Phantom was such a nice plane to fly and it could accelerate so fast with the J-79 engines that it made other planes of the time look slow. Using the AoA gauge, I could fly straight up until the speed bled off and just before the stall push gently on the stick to keep the indicator centered and power out of a stall with no problem. In a dogfight, I would use the AoA to know when to relax pressure in a high G turn. For its time in aviation, it was the best.

[@TheDgdimick]

As a former member of a Marine FAC/ALO team, all I can say is you guys sucked.. As in, it sucked to be on the end of your run.

[@charlesthomes9059]

I am a USAF Brat. My pop took me into a simulator into this plane. To me, it was the best time of my life. I was 16 and it was 1982. RIP. Retired Colonel James T.Thomes.

[@gp-vl3gk]

sounds like part of the movie Iron eagle

[@vegan_cocks]

simulator in 82? what was that like??!

[@christopherhartline1863]

Glad you have that wonderful memory. Your father is proud of you.

[@tripg4624]

Absolutely amazing detail. Spent many hours in the backseat. Not sure if you know , but that helmet is actually from my old squadron, 110th TFS.

[@XXNerdzillaXX]

Well that's cool. I bet that brings back some nostalgia, yeah?

[@davidgraham4253]

@tripg4624 I spent a lot of time finding photos of the 110th via the Lindbergh's Own FB group and US archives, I hope I did it justice for you guys. Eventually I'd like to add some more through 1991 and the Pharewell

[@JG-od3xy]

Phantoms Forever

[@golfrick007]

I worked on the F-4E/G for about five years. This video is awesome 😍

[@kevinl3235]

Nice!

[@contort69]

and I'm the Pope. Very awesome video.

[@fastfed]

5 years to make a product that only a few hundred people buy? seems so insane to me. Why does it take so long to make?

[@markslandingsandaviationvi3123]

@@fastfedBecause, everything is modelled and detailet to its finest:) the aircraft is a study level simulation of the real phantom, so that is the reason:)

[@samc3769]

@@markslandingsandaviationvi3123 How many cupholders come with the basic model?

[@tovip2697]

Yes, indeed. Tripple screens cannot do what a good VR headset can do. They will never be able to do that. VR is another world. One must only be ready for it, nothing more.

[@laubox]

I can't agree more than that! Headsets must be slightly more comfortable to also get this group on board!

[@void1968able]

Flying with the Pimax8KX for two years. Nothing beats VR! I bought the F4 especially for the cockpit immersion in VR. Sure there are some flaws with VR, but the pros are simply astonishing!

[@bobbybassett9483]

What game is this? I struggle watching these reviews as you never tell where to find the game or platform you are reviewing it on

[@void1968able]

@@bobbybassett9483 it's called DCS, Digital Combat Simulator.

[@EazyE11]

​@@bobbybassett9483DCS. Also free to play (sort of) and some of the best most dedicated developers on the planet.

[@moletrap2640]

Bought and installed DOF H3 motion chair and absolutely love it. Significantly adds to the realism on top of VR. And also using beyond big screen VR headset, weighs absolutely nothing (nearly as light as a pair of sunglass). OLED is gorgeous. Customized to your face and your eye prescription.

[@oliverdots]

The approach to landing looked so smooth. With other sims the controls always seem so sensitive. That looked like a real approach no doubt. And the landing, the F-15's I watched land at RAF Lakenheath landed solidly like that. Just such a real looking, handled flight. Well done Sir!

[@Zairn12345]

I often describe to people what it’s like going vertical through the clouds, the sun glinting off the canopy scratches, as the jet I’m flying shudders and complains, alerts going off before I yank back on the stick and look up with my head and watch the earth fall back into my view. The feeling is unreal. If you’ve never done it, you won’t know. VR is so close to real.

[@XXNerdzillaXX]

I just got a hold of a VR headset. Next step is to hook up DCS to it. I just haven't figured that part out yet. Does it all work in the game with the hand controllers? Or do you need external Peripherals? I mean, I've got the $2000 hardware setup, but I don't wanna hook it up to just test.

[@eddiesmith5617]

That's f'king amazing. I love that finally you can see your own body/hands. That's full on immersion.

[@JudgeDrey]

I remember playing ACE COMBAT on PS1 and being just blown away with the detail and immersiveness! Times have changed. But I will always look back on the 70's, 80's, 90's eras with great fondness. For those who have never experienced the difference between those years and what we have now, it's almost impossible to explain how the lack of too much detail somehow made gaming great. Not better. But just as good. Forcing you to use your imagination to fill in the detail that wasn't there or barely there made horror games creepier. Fighting games basicand brutal. Adventure RPGs almost more expansive than they actually were...etc. When you saw a castle on a mountain in the background it made you imagine infinite storylines about what it could represent. But now, with the immensely gigantic open worlds available, everything we see in the horizon is reachable. It doesn't take away from the game by any means. It is amazing. It's just a different part of your mind working to use your imagination. If that makes any sense. Anyways, all that to say, I love those old games and will always have a special place in my heart for them.

[@Autoxdriver]

Preach! I played them all from Chuck Yeager's Air Combat to Falcon 3 (then falcon 4). I can't remember all the flight sims I played, but if it was more sim than game I bought it and played it.

[@RNZA161]

haha me too

[@FlightSimMuseum]

Well said. I like to say the most powerful simulation engine is between your ears. Your imagination. Easily proved by letting non-sim literate person fly your rig.

[@emorsi]

Speechless... I really thought this is a real jet here. The visuals are next level. Unbelievable.

[@dathyr1]

Cool. I remember these very LOUD Jets taking off during my Viet Nam years while working on the Flight line. Amazing Jets of that time painted in their green camouflaged paint schemes. I worked on the C-130 aircraft back then. thanks for the video. Take care.

[@BenjWarrant]

Oh, yeah. The Phantoms were FUCKING LOUD. We lived under the landing path of Phantoms in the 70s. The noise obliterated the world.

[@dwgustaf]

One thing that you can do in VR that you can't do with a 3 screen setup is standup, turn around and look out the back of the aircraft. Or completely turn your chair around and look backward. 🙂

[@M3t4lik]

This is totally insane! Blows me away of how far VR graphics had come. Excellent. :)

[@HolyGuacamole311]

This is beyond sick. I’ve been dreaming of a VR flight sim for years now.

[@bugrist]

Much hype hier. The realism of that terrain CG quickly wears off.

[@jocelyn-n-tech]

That was super cool. As a former F-15C and F-15E model Avionics Tech, watching this brings back so many memories. And the sounds are so accurate as well. If only you could smell the burning JP8 ☺ Oh and I know you said normally you'd deploy the parachute. Maybe that's an in game only thing, but the F 15 isn't equipped with parachutes for slowing down in real life...

[@flyaruu]

That cockpit. I can smell it.

[@TheGunterGlieben]

Re the motion simulator... yeah that would be nice, however if you have not tried it, I would highly recommend connecting a buttkicker (sound transducer). You won’t get the motion, however you will feel the rumble of the jet, thump as the wheels come down, cannon, etc. any deep bass sounds get translated into a vibration that you will feel. Adds a lot. I use them when flight simming and sim trucking. I can’t sim without VR, or the added Immersion provided by the buttkicker.

[@konradw.4860]

Thank You for Your time and this nice movie - finally I know which VR head set I have to buy :D Greetings from EU

[@seebarry4068]

It’s nice to see the graphics I’ll be playing with a decade from now. VTOL is my limit, no complaints but this looks nuts.

[@laubox]

It is nuts! Thanks for the comment!

[@ChevyBM]

Damn, we have come a long way from Chuck Yeagers Air Combat...

[@coma13794]

"It's a great day for flying!" "It's the man, not the machine..."

[@DrivingatSunset]

New to your content, but i enjoyed it! Instead of full on motion, in racing I’ve loved belt tensioners, haptic seat pads and wind fans that all react to the telemetry that make a static experience just SO much more immersive

[@ichigen511]

This is just way to sick. I almost can't handle it. Thanks for the video now I have to work harder to build the proper rig for this sim. Doh!

[@CartoonrBOY]

Absolutely correct. It's frustrating to see people focus on creating static screen representations of jet cockpits when VR technology offers a much more accurate simulation. With VR, you get a more immersive experience that's easily interchangeable. Pair this with a pneumatic chair to simulate the aircraft's movement, and you'll feel as if you're truly flying! This combination provides a far superior and realistic environment.

[@Kstrizzle5150]

Ever since I saw lawnmower man back in the 90s I have always wanted to try virtual reality but I can tell you this blows anything they had in that movie away so Jell-O thanks for the video bro

[@franck-hermanherald4094]

I'm pilot too on DCS.. Using trackir inside my home cockpit based on the blackshark... I build a glass canopy to feel me more in immersion.. And ear me out... It's just unbelievable ❤❤... I feel everyth like real pilots excepted the pitch and the roll of my hull... But it's doesn't matter... Realism are here

[@joshuataylor6763]

They have motion simulators

[@kswan2234]

Holy SHIT! When the video came on a thought it was fake. Thats amazing!

[@asmith1496]

I have a Pimax8k running on an RTX 3080. Playing DCS on it is insane. It is extremely immersive. Helos are even more fun

[@matthewlake182]

I'll definitely be getting back into DCS when I upgrade my PC in the next year. WIth a 2070 Super and AMD Ryzen 3700X, 16 GB ram, I always had to turn down the graphics very low and lower resolution a bit to get decent frame rate. Hopefully I can remember how to use all the weapon systems and all that. It took months to get competent. Game now looks amazing in VR with your system though.

[@DoppelBro]

you dont need to, just wait for it to get available on GeforceNow and you can play it on the most pumped up rogs for like 20buck per month

[@thomasodetinape4180]

Try raising the landing gear lever before takeoff roll. As soon as you break ground the Landing gear will raise automatically from the wieght on wheels switch. A little trick from F-4 driver. If its in the game, they really did the homework on the aircraft.

[@markslandingsandaviationvi3123]

Hides the landing gear raise automatically when rotating at takeoff? What do you mean??

[@thomasodetinape4180]

@@markslandingsandaviationvi3123 Do like this, when you are ready for take off roll and you lower your flaps, raise the landing gear control lever. As soon as you break ground the gear should retract. It's a cool looking trick we all did in it's day . If it does it in the game, they really did the research.

[@JT_2024-c8j]

@@thomasodetinape4180I want to know who was the first one to discover that!

[@thomasodetinape4180]

@@JT_2024-c8j It was old school,more than likely by accident. I never heard back from anyone who plays it if it works.

[@JT_2024-c8j]

@@thomasodetinape4180 Very cool Phantom lore.

[@kennywatts4212]

That was some nice flying I love this game too I have played had many hours of fun

[@klinkokos67]

woff! That was very authentic indeed - Nice video! :)

[@Chris23lover]

Awesome! Those who have old pcs, can get my Sky-Fighters Game for old pcs that cant run DCS.

[@acidreign8551]

Looks pretty good. I live in Vegas and while not photo realistic exactly, the terrain is modeled pretty accurately. I live just a few clicks directly north east of Nellis AFB at the base of a mountain called Frenchman's mountain. I overlook the whole Vegas valley from my driveway, and i can see where my house would be. lol I may just have to get this so i can fly over my house and see what my dogs are up to in the back yard and if my pool guy is keeping my pool looking sharp! lol

[@garyjohnson1970]

How cool would it be do some runs through your town!

[@kevinAPapaof2]

I’m a racer using VR and it has chgd the whole experience. Just awesome. I can’t play as long in vr but I use vr headset like I my helmet, once I’m in race headset come on. Looking forward to trying new war thunder made for VR once it comes out.

[@zardoz7900]

I live in Vegas. I hike those mountains around Vegas. I just can't do it July/August because it's too hot and during the winter the days are too short for longer hikes. You don't want to get caught up on a mountain at dark. You literally can't see anything and you're stuck there. Happened to me once. They actually rescued me with a helicopter.🤷

[@paulpaulsen7777]

Unbelievable! Thank you for this inside view.

[@IgoByaGo]

I have a Quest 2, but man I would love one of these Pimax Crystals.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

can't wait to try this on a G2, I heard it's probably one of the best with the best sound too

[@vincelupone]

Classic Cardinals logo represent!

[@keridudouze6143]

I remember FA/18 Interceptor on Amiga 35 years ago, and when I see this, I wonder if the word "revolution" is enough when it comes to VR

[@davidis3001]

How are the goggles holding up? Heard they have issues some time in

[@MaykMoke]

i see a laubox, GS and longshot dogfight here! Excellent video dude.

[@Igneous01]

It's come a long way since I started back with DCS 1.5 many years ago. Wow this module looks incredible. How's the seat switching work? Does the pilot hold heading and aspect when you switch to the WSO?

[@Celt-starseed]

My Late brother used to install and operate the Phantom and Tornado sims at RAF Leuchars near St Andrews Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

[@zoidasteire]

Just Stunning!!!

[@tuomaspietinen1485]

Well , that was a carrier landing!

[@Parawingdelta2]

At the start, I thought you were pulling a prank by somehow actually sitting in a real Phantom. I didn't know how, but it looked so real.

[@WindwolfBlog]

That Cardinals helmet is fire. A+

[@franciscoborges9591]

it looks amazing and very well captured, have a quest3 but... gonna grab the crystal later nice video

[@laubox]

Awesome! Do know that the quest 3 is great as well! Surely the pimax is more clear, but still. You can get a discount on the pimax btw of you use my link in the description ;)

[@my3dviews]

3:44 I hate when the pilot says: "we will try to land this plane". 😳 😂

[@PappyGunn]

I find I have problems with the Gamma in VR in DCS. I have to adjust it between day and night missions or even depending on the weather. It is especially bad for the F4 cockpit because (like the real thing) the cockpit lighting sucks, so reading instruments (like the flap/slats indicator) is sometimes difficult. But yes the F-4 in VR is great, a cramped analog hell of a cockpit.

[@GodzHammer]

Why is the field of view to the left of the stick/HUD/Cockpit and slanted down to the right?

[@Quoxozist]

my question as well, a lot of VR gaming vids I see on youtube look this way, with the entire frame tilted heavily on an angle, and it's very disconcerting

[@PulsechainProfits]

what are you using to see your FPS in game?

[@laubox]

There is a shortcut to see your fps ingame. Of you go to options om DCs and select the category UI Layer. It should be somewhere there

[@anwarsadat6825]

In VR, can you turn and off the switches and handle the throttle etc. by simply reaching for it in VR or do you have to hand the attachments!? Never done it. Just curious.

[@rockyrowlands3652]

Very impressive. But I have a question. Does VR cause motion sickness?

[@CptnFuentes_FR]

Man, thank you so much for the prescription lenses website ! This was the last thing holding me away from VR !!

[@tanberjan]

How did you get the Cardinals helmet in there?

[@porkfang]

God, dayuuuum, that's sick!!!!

[@baraskparas9559]

Incredible reality experience.

[@tyremango]

Does it make you feel nauseous? I tried VR once and I felt very, very sick for the next day. Was gutted to be honest as it looked amazing.

[@rbsims6376]

Stunning graphics! Nothing else to say.

[@KernitTheFont]

How do you see your keyboard and throttle buttons with the headset on?

[@OldSchool79]

F4 comes with playable 2 seats?

[@flare242]

Amazing! The scale finally seems right!

[@DCSHacks]

Great but why does the thumbnail show a Quest3?

[@Tepnox]

Because Quest 3 works just fine with DCS for a reasonable price? 😅

[@Kazuya720]

Looks super sick! Imagine you could also manage to feel g-force on your body.

[@testowykana1763]

Guys, how are you able to handle the turns in VR? I don't feel well with the headset on. I feel pretty good playing eg. FPS games with non-teleport, smooth movement, but the turns in VR, I'm not sure if I'll be able to get used to it 😢

[@therealmorf]

Came here for the cardinals helmet thats dope callsign TILLMAN

[@david2881]

So hows is the goggles holding up? Many say it a coin toss whether you get a good one or bad one. Many say 6 months not work no more

[@knarrie1966]

Wow. Ziet er geweldig uit, your Dutch accent comes thru ☺️

[@larrya7822]

I use to be an avionic tech on the F-4C & D. Its really realistic.

[@LeonardoG1981]

Look into the Yaw3 motion simulator, I have the Yaw2 for sim racing and I love it.

[@larrya7822]

What would happen if you pull the ejection handle.

[@cyberflightfpv4184]

Can’t wait for this to be 10x in 10years

[@simons.2948]

What headset you using, is it a stand alone or connects to a PC or consul? Thanks

[@dasdguy7606]

Can't see the Air speed indicator. Might need that during short final.

[@RX552VBK]

My God! This is INSANE!!!! Whats the price for everything?

[@exosin4394]

really awesome, i hope that mirrors can work in a few years, for me the black surfaces would be immersion breaking. good ui decision to addt the button manuals to the vr.

[@bossalini1374]

What vr headset you using? You playing this off steam?

[@belaircomputerguyllc4001]

Not sure why you have a Quest 3 on your head in the video thumbnail. Seems dishonest and misleading - like clickbait. **update** I'm glad you have since changed the thumbnail - just do what's right and honest, and your viewers will love you for it.

[@andy31793]

I agree, but the actual term for Clickbait is called Occult Business. If you are going to criticize these KZbinrs effectively, you have to learn their actual language, i.e. what are they doing, and how is it possible?

[@Jimmy-Legs]

Yes

[@andy31793]

@@Jimmy-Legs bye bye miss American pie

[@Jimmy-Legs]

@@andy31793 Drove my Chevy to the levee

[@someguythatlookslikeme8306]

That Levee was dry. . .

[@Overkill06]

My buddy had "Chuck Yeager Air Combat". When he hooked up one of his major guitar speakers it was incredible, but nothing like this.

[@845SiM]

There is a lot of tearing but assume thats due to recording software?

[@eddiesmith5617]

Just like in Gran Turismo, I can imagine the military actually recruiting the best pilots from the DCS community.

[@alangrant5684]

My Dad was RCAF. I remember watching a fighter take off.

[@adamthompson8432]

3:32 he laughs like Santa clause. lol

[@eyalsabban4730]

But still cant fully control plane dashboard with hands only right? Still need keyboard key commands to control right?

[@oper80]

Нет, вы можете всё делать с помощью контроллеров, либо взять у шамана бубен, накамлать помощь духов и через виртуал десктоп настроить трекинг рук.

[@eastcoastnews9529]

How much does the whole package for this cost because I’m getting ready for Christmas and I know what I want.

[@markslandingsandaviationvi3123]

3.000$ or upwards for the gaming computer required to run this with constant 80+fps guaranteed. And 2.000$ just for the vr headset. I know it’s a LOT of money, but many people save up for a long time👍😉

[@BlazeBlevinspace]

I love this module but as you say VR is a must

[@johnmcclanedelyon9990]

Merci pour cette superbe vidéo elle est magnifique j'attend mon Pimax Light qui dois bientôt arrivé et je voulais savoir comment on fait pour voir le corps du pilote dans le cockpit car sur mon Quest 3 je ne le vois pas. Merci beaucoup je me suis abonné a votre chaine pour la bonne cause :)

[@marionetteworks]

That landing, good thing it’s a Navy plane. So I guess Pimax Crystal is the top PC VR headset to get right now?

[@bobdoyle5945]

can you use meta quest 3 no computer for this one

[@craigdeaton6371]

Wish you had buzzed "The Strip"!

[@aplaceinthesky82]

yes but what you see through the visor it doesn't have that details, for me is too magnified the texture loose details when using the visor

[@OgKamoGaming]

Thats freaking insane.

[@zolterzolter459]

Bro if you play on Primax Crystal, why is Quest 3 on video preview?

[@corneliuss8083]

DCS has come a long way. I wish flight without G-forces wouldn't nauseate the hell out of me :(.

[@corneliuss8083]

@@maximusinfidelis3090 thx, I will give that a try.

[@ladsr777]

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